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Quit Blaming Feminism for Your Failures and Lack of Success With Women. You're The Problem, Not Them... (Page 2)
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I feel like your message is also coming from an angry and butthurt point of view but I do agree.
I have gone on at least 100 first dates in my life time and the word "feminism" has never been brought up, 99% of girls happily paid for themselves on first dates (I screened out the obvious gold diggers)... and any other points commonly brought up on G@G. Also militant feminists are rather easy to avoid.
** On a side note... in a way I'm liking traditional feminism... apparently there are now 4 educated women for 3 educated men which makes hooking up very easy as an educated man **
Not agreeing with feminism doesn't mean that men don't respect women. Respect goes both ways (regardless of sex). What you are proposing is special treatment, what happened to real "equality", not "pseudoequality". I'm actually quite in shocked that you actually believe in what you wrote. What you are saying is implying a one way street when the same can be said Vice versa. If you want this "gender war" to end, you can't bow down and appease the opposite side (white knighting), what is needed is mutual understanding and respect for both sexes not putting one on the pedestal while the other kisses its feet. I actually agree with a lot of your other views (not all) however this post happens to be one those that I don't agree with.
You completely misinterpret my article. I will never advocate to worship or put women on a pedestal.
The point of this article was to point out all the angry and bitter men on this site crying about women this women that and that women aren't worth it because x, y and z and blaming feminisim for their lack of success with women.
I was just pointing out how to get a decent woman.
Are you sure they are angry or bitter, sometimes criticizing feminism can be confused with "anger and bitterness".
I'm 100%. I'll read enough comments how angry and hurt men on this site that I have noticed act towards women.
Perhaps they are angry but are they always seeking relationships? Maybe they are taking breaks until they can calm down.
Yeah understand 3rd wave feminism is out of control, but i do see men on this site and youtube constantly using feminism as a excuse to shit on women.
You reap what you sew...
Probably because feminism is already used to shit on men.
Honestly, I would rather play ps4 after a long day of work and come home to nothing. I have stopped dating for 3 years because i would rather do something useful with my life.
Great myTake but there is truth to girls being part of that failure. Feminism is a shell of what it used to be and because of this people manipulate it to their own advantage. Guy's don't ask out girls anymore because they are afraid of being accused of sexual harassment. And girls don't go out anymore on dates because they just want to have fun and fuck dudes, drink party and live in their own little fantasy.
Women are selfish and you are white knighting to compound that belief.
How the hell a guy is going to ask a woman on a date and she accuse him of sexual harassment? I don't believe that at all unless the guy is pestering her a lot after she said no to him.
Hmm soso you'd be surprised. Happened to one of my friends while we were at a bar. Crazy girl maybe but the general thought behind it aligned with selfishness. My boy wasn't pushy at all.
What happened at that bar is a isolated incident. That chick was probably drunk or incredibly stupid or your friend said something sexual to her. Either way trust me no woman is going to the police and report sexual harassment becuase a man ask her on date just one time.
Don't think so bro.
Well said OP. Best opinion yet, he is a sad, inadequate feminist arse licker.
@martinj you aren't going to change anyone's mindset by talking down to them. Understand where you are coming from tho.
Thank you for proving there are still reasonable people in the world who know that feminism doesn't actually reflect all women. I'm against feminism and I'm so tired of being painted as a part of it just because I'm female. You deserve a medal.
There's always egalitarianism. And with that movement, it's easy to reject those who aren't egalitarians because the name is a bit more gender neutral but still has the message of benefiting both women and men.
I don't blame feminism for lack of success, that would be foolish. If it were not for the pill and female liberation, I would more than likely be stuck fucking only one woman in a marriage. Now I can screw lots of em. Sure rejection happens here and there, its always been that way. But without expectations of "virtue" in women, it has become a great market for men to play the field. Just like women do.
I will say this, In my experience and life observations, women do not love men the same way men love women. That's fine, accept it and move forward. Long term relationships are overrated. Monogamy is fucking silly and indoctrinated.
So men, this mangina is right, don't bitch about realizing the truth about female nature. Feminism is simply female nature unchecked. So wrap it up, pump and dump and next these women. Just like they will do you. Don't be mad or sad about it. Have fun and be safe.
It fair enough to insist people (women included) take responsibility for themselves and I would also suggest that they do that regardless of feminism's awful contribution to the world. Whether or not it's someone else's fault you're in the hole you're in, it doesn't matter. You're in that hole and need to get yourself out no matter how you got there.
That said, feminism has plenty to undermine society before even getting to people's romantic entanglements. Sure, don't blame feminism for everything that's gone wrong, but neither should it be exonerated for everything that it has done wrong.
As a society, we do need to acknowledge where and who the damage is coming from so more don't fall into the same holes. But as individuals, blame won't help you fix your life, so be strong until the storm passes.
Good women have absolutely nothing to do with feminism, women who are genuinely virtuous people would want nothing to do with that toxic ideology.
No one respects feminists because respect is earned, it's not something you get to demand.
Go watch "The Red Pill" documentary and actually educate yourself to the harms that feminism is doing to society.
I don't blame feminism but you have to understand that approaching a random stranger in the street is not easy at all for most people and it's easier said than done. Plus you probably live in America where everyone is used to that happening and it's considered a normal thing
I think both men and women all of their issues with dating and each other but feminism has nothing to do with it.
I would say online dating and the way modern dating is had ruined it otherwise you wouldn't see people openly complaining on dating sites or see older people say I'm glad I don't have to play that game any more or it'd drive me crazy.
Well written Take. All guys should pay close attention to your tips!
Don't know why you have down votes, but I agree.
@Lopezz1999 omg I only saw the downvotes now. Why all the hate guys?
Those downvotes are from sulky, butthurt men LOL
@Richareens. What's up with all your demeaning remarks , ms Singapore? Got a problem?
downvotes are from men who know she's right
@Anifauqa. You sound like a liberal feminist
Yeah, I'm not really going to look into this too much, but I atill agree with CoolGuy, and the Opinion owner. I mean, I still love to play video games though, but you have to be a real dude. A woman without those qualities is way too fragile in my opinion.
You dumb women calling men creepy isn't going to want men to approach.
@Lopezz1999 Men are single because they are GOING THEIR OWN WAY. That's it. Not because they can't get you. Who cares most women are as loyal as their options.
@Richareens Women like you is the reason I don't date and there's plenty of men like me. Over a million of them alone in my city.
Who the f*** cares about useless women who aren't even loyal to a single man. If you're wealthy a woman will cheat on some guy and if a good looking guy she will cheat or dump you for a rich guy. Women are like cars they rust away.
https://youtu.be/U7KqkhPrTpo
@burpzzzzz Good, more quality men for me. Bye
@Richareens. I told you already , I'll be there in Kuantan shortly. I'll help you make it happen. If your for real...
@Richareens Ummm stupid far LESS men are DATING. NOT MORE. lol
@Richareens. Ahh , all of a sudden quiet.
@Djaaay She already told you she was finished talking with you and I do not blame her. You are acting like quite a jerk. Give it a rest already. Geesh.
@lizziepooh03. I'm acting like a jerk? No I'm not , and please dont reinforce a person who's talking filthy crap to their elders , including you. If you want to side with someone like that, then your no different.
@lizziepooh03. I'm acting like a jerk? No I'm not. She's full of filthy words and quite the jerk herself. If you want to reinforce her stance , then your just the same as her.
@Djaaay You started it with her. You made it personal. You were the jerk to her first and not only were you a jerk but you even threatened to teach her a lesson. I quote, "I'll be in Kuatan , Malaysia this up coming November. If you want , I'll teach you the reason why you should keep your f.. mouth shut. Stupid little girl..."
Very nice behavior. When you act like that, you deserve the crap you get. Not sure why you had to be such a jerk but yes, you were quite the jerk.
@lizziepooh03 Ahh, finally someone who's so much wiser! And yes you're right :3 I'm not gonna bother replying to that asshole, I ain't got time for childish pathetic bozos. They can keep making a fool out of their sad asses for all i know. Don't bother replying to that ugly motherfucker, you're better than him for sure :)
Good call.
@lizziepooh03 You women are no saints and this is why men are going their own way because you aren't shit.
@lizziepooh03 don't bother replying to that fucktard above c:
these guys commenting on here, most of them, aren't quality guys/people.. most of this site isn't
@lizziepooh03. That's right , western woman.. in the Pacific islands we teach differently. Our cultures are way different than yours. Over hea , you get a slap upside your effn head for being disrespectful. Her culture and my culture are alittle different , but neither are your culture... so but out..
@Lopezz1999. Good call for what ?
@Djaaay Although I agree that it's probably a bad idea to unwittingly marry women with traditional purposes such as a life together with a house and kids, complaining about the problem essentially isn't going to pull the women you certainly complain about over to you.
If you're concerned about that, stay single. The best way to avoid the process in the first place is to be the strongest man while having a balance of her being secure with you, and needy of your company. That being said, I don't believe in marriage much anymore, but I still do like women. Opinion Owner, and @Richareens are probably looking for dudes that can fix things. @lizziepooh03 already has her husband. It's still possible if you're strong enough.
No we shouldn't and we won't. Look at the male downvotes, that tells you all you need to know.
@Lopezz1999 she is getting downvotes because men are not doing this and disagree with hher because shei s wrong.
@Lopezz1999
@Lopezz1999 'don't know why is getting downvotes' You feminist and feminist appeasers delusion knows no bounds.
@Lopezz1999. Dude , look at my profile before suggesting I'm single. I've only been single in my entire adulthood for 32 days , since 1978. Secondly , I don't like some of these stupid females talking all Effn rugged to guys just because they feel impowered. So please if you don't mind , either stand strong with us men , or stay weak with the emasculated bunch.
@Djaaay Neither do I, but most of the time, I just don't care. Does it really matter what they say if you can effortlessly do what it takes to be content with your life? Seriously, shit talk doesn't hurt.
Bogus seems that it doesn't work, but I'll try again..
@Lopezz1999. And being a strong stand up man against foul mouth feminist is what every man should be doing. What happened with you?
I already have my own opinion on the feminist movement. Already expressed it, over it now. I don't actively seek out women, and I don't actively speak against unfair circumstances unless it's something completely new. Most of which, it's just the same thing said over and over again. I just don't feel as though I should be wasting time there anymore. I don't think other men appreciate indifference to this subject either, but people like me are nowhere to be found, since we pretty much aren't concerned anymore. I've never had hatred for women, it's just that the things I previously disagreed with by a woman's point of view doesn't bring up any feelings that I need to speak against them when I don't even have to talk to them in the first place.
@Lopezz1999. I'm 1000% for good women and there is a lot of them. And I'm 1000% against bad women. That's all I'm saying
Yup blame the guys why all you girls can't find any real men.
Feminism rocks, thanks for the libereation and freedom to go my own way.
www.foxnews.com/.../why-men-wont-marry.html
Dude you are fucking brave af. Much applause! Just be ready for a trolling storm though Im warning you. It's guerenteed. But you have balls bro for real. haven't gotten the chance to read it but I def will.
people who disagree are trolls to you? lol
@FreedomByChoice no no NO. I mean like literal trolls dude. The ones that will insult and annoy until they get blocked but send more minionss. They can be ignored, but they are just a buzzkill. They have nothing to contribute. Just there to annoy and nag people for negative attention. Oh and make assumptions like you just did.
assumptions? you are the one who is very vague with your answers lol. The people who ''nag'' here may just be giving their real opinion, and if it doesn't mean anything or have value to you, doesn't make them a troll simply because YOU personally got nothing from it. its subjective. If you dont like someones opinion, then cool but the majority of people here isn't just here to bother him, but to give insight to what he said, even if it doesn't have much rebuttal, context etc.. There is barely any, if any people here just doing irrelevant trolling. Respect the fact that people think differently than you
@FreedomByChoice "shut up snowflake. You know nothing basement dweller. Go die cuckservative. Ugh you libtard go about it"
That is what I mean. If you feel those are
respectable opinions, I truly can't talk you. Only a complete dumbass would beleive thats not trolling stupidity.
it seems like you can't read ''but the majority of people'' I didn't say EVERYBODY here is giving legitimate opinions. I said most are. dont insult someones intelligence just because you didn't read thoroughly.
@FreedomByChoice well. Im only talking about the people im refering to. The ones who do just that. YOU need to learn to read. Other opinions are fine. No prob. You are just another idiot. Not worth my time. Dont you have anything to do than to critisize for no reason? Dont answer that. you'll see why 😜
Awesome mytake, I never blamed feminism, despite my lack of success with women, but I like your points very much, quite helpful tips.
The reason why you don't succed with women is because you agree with women.
@martinj But if I disagree with them, they yell at me :(
any human being should want to make another human being feel good about themselves. you should want to show someone that you care. not everyone, there are a lot of dummies not worth the time, but if you aren't out to impress ANYONE, EVER, there is something wrong with you. just try.
fun fact: in some places, its actually considered sexual harassment to approach females. in other places, there is a new trend to deem it ''catcalling'' when a guy wants to approach a girl he likes. It is only acceptable when the guy is good looking, luckily I fall in that category where I can easily get a female BUT others are not so lucky. now, other countries, approaching a girl in swedan or jermany? forget it, you have a higher chance wrestling a bear with your hands tied behind your back and surviving. there is a lot of propaganda floating around and its clearly a war on men. Even though I can still easily get girls, It is hard to find a girl who has not been influenced by this propaganda but I have found one, and she is one out of a million
1 Timothy ch. 2 7-15 kjv
7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Do your feminists fit this description?
Or how about this description - "1 corinthians ch. 3 vs. 11"
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
"So if the man is a professing christian shouldn't she" - Ephesians 5:22-33King James Version (KJV)
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
What does chruch assembly commands have to do with men complaining and blaming feminists because of their lack of success in relationships?
I don't care about the feminists movement unless it's just to treat women freely in the world.
If you are a christian man it has "everything" to do with it. The feminist is unruly and harlot and a Jezebel.
I address "you" with word (not them) because you "openly" claim to be a christian.
Yet you defend the harlot Jezebel.
I don't support that kind of feminists. I love a traditional submissive woman. If a woman acts like a little Jezebel then she isn't for me personally.
My point of this Mytake is that man are crying over feminism and blaming feminisim because they can't find a good woman or just suck with woman.
If they have such a problem with a unruly, bitchy woman then just avoid her. No need to blame and shame all women because they suck with women.
I agree about the whining part and those men are weak - but I will not speak up for a Jezebel movement. The very nature of feminism goes totally against the apostles doctrine brother.
lol the way feminism made the average person today almost no woman would accept these. the traditional family is almost dead.
@levantine99 2 Timothy 3 kjv
3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
@levantine99. No it isn't , the division between good and evil is prevalent more than ever. What Eve did in the garden , women are doing once again today and with the same exact three reasons. Why are (all ) women who are feminist non-belivers and atheist?
I disagree. Some men are to blame if they can't get a woman but sometimes the woman and feminism are to blame. Should a guy give up because of the high standards placed on them? No, but the bar to get women shouldn't be high as feminism promotes shallowness.
You are 31 year old beta bucks virgin who wants a woman saving herself for marriage.
You have even less authority to give advice than the people you are condescendingly trying to give advice to.
I'm not a animal to be a Alpha or Beta idiot. Nevertheless, I'll whoop the living ish out of you. So shut up.
OP i think you upset the sad feminist appeasing twat.
@martinj A 31 year old in denial that there is still some decent christian girl waiting right behind the corner for him and that he won't have to marry an expired cum bucket with 2 children who will let him fuck her maybe 2 times a year until he finds out she has been cheating on him the whole time.
I wonder how long this doormat persona is going to last for him.
But judging by this "advice" on how to become an ATM I guess it is going to be quite a while.
You are correct at stating that feminism isn't the cause for a lack of individual failure of plenty of guys with women.
Doesn't change that feminism is a cancer nonetheless. Still - self-responsibility is a great thing to have.