Who fetishizes who: Asians girls or white men?

[BronzedAdonis]

In relationships 1 person usually holds more power. Regarding "yellow fever" generally speaking, who fetishizes who the most and why? Asian women or white men? Please leave the PC nonsense at the door and don't reply"we're all individuals, stop generalising"

[Anonymous]

I'm a mixed race latino and I prefer black girls. I can't speak for this yellow fever or whatever personally.

However, I don't understand this mindset that yellow fever is a thing white men are guilty of but White Fever is never talked about.

There are tons of studies out their with dating sites where Asian women prefer white men most of the time.
If you look at East Asia, they adopt white culture and white standard of beauty.
This is stupid to pin this "yellow fever" bull on white men as if Asian women don't fetishize white men and don't like dating their own kind.

There are even websites by East Asian women about hating East Asian men.
Here is a website all about hating Asian men and loving the white man
https://ihateasianmen.wordpress.com/

and here are some pics of real tweets from Asian women.

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Just a few examples of real tweets, fell free to look for them if you want. So what the hell is this double standard of yellow fever towards white men but white fever is ok. These SJW Asians need to chill their crap seriously

[Opinion Owner]

According to OkCupid, Asian women marry outside the race at twice the rate of Asian men. The statistics for White-Asian interracial marriages in the San Francisco Bay Area are even more extreme - something like a 4 to 1 ratio for White males versus Asian males.
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[Opinion Owner]

@Cosytoasty I wanted to bring you here to show you my post. Again I can only speak for the USA. I have no idea where you live. There are even Asian women who straight up hate Asian men and think of them as gross, small penis, ugly etc. They prefer white men on dating websites, double eye lid surgery is a big thing in the USA because Asian women want to look more white.

I personally feel Asian men get mistreated, and many Asian women contribute to this.

[Opinion Owner]

@Cosytoasty Actually in many dating websites it showed that Latina Women prefer East-Asian men more then east Asian women prefer east Asian men.

[Cosytoasty]

And I'm giving you a first hand account of actual Asian girls, not fake twitter handles and internet trolls. Girls care more about your attributes rather than your race.

Asian guys don't get mistreated at all, only the simps who don't up stand up for themselves.

You know I'd be inclined to believe it was equal if the standards of Asian girls and white guys was fairly similar. BUT I see Asian girls only ever dating attractive and/or successful white guys - Johnny from the trailer park will never get any half decent Asian girl. However when it comes to white men, they will literally ask out Asian girls who are waaaay above or below their pay grade.

It's not a fetish to want to date up, it IS a fetish if you date down just because of race.

In actuality, the whole fetish thing (for any race) comprises a TINY number of people on the planet, so it's almost not worth thinking about, outside of analysing under a microscope for discussion purposes like this question.

[Opinion Owner]

@Cosytoasty They aren't fake twitter handles, you can look up the accounts for yourself.

I did say I'm talking about the USA did I not? SO if you're giving me a first-hand (personal) account and even earlier said that I might be right about what I'm saying being unique to the USA, then how can you refute me with what I'm saying about Asian women and Asian men in the USA when your personal account has nothing to do with USA?

Again those twitter aren't fake or trolls, I looked them up and I did say feel free to look them up. Many of them even have Instagram accounts.

"BUT I see Asian girls only ever dating attractive and/or successful white guys"

See where? You said you weren't living in the USA. And we are talking about the average person on dating websties. Also many of these statistics are based on the website asking you for race preference. It doesn't determine race preference based on looks. It simply ask what race do they prefer and most Asian women simply answer "white"

[Opinion Owner]

BUT I see Asian girls only ever dating attractive and/or successful white guys - Johnny from the trailer park will never get any half decent Asian girl. However when it comes to white men, they will literally ask out Asian girls who are waaaay above or below their pay grade.

Lol, how typical, to put the responsibility on white men. Maybe that's because on average it's easier for a women to get a man then a man to get a woman. Statistically speaking (In the USA) but it's also been shown across many countries in the globe it's true.

Hot guys are more willing to get with ugly girls then hot girls are willing to get with ugly guys statistically.

[Opinion Owner]

@Cosytoasty It's worth talking about then the SJWs made it an issue and complain about yellow fever and demonize white men but never talk about the double standards in their own culture.

Trust me, I'm not perfect either, being a latino whos half black, I have lots of problem with latino and black culture, blacks and latinos have a high crime race and gang violence and I also call my people out on their bullshit and double standards or when they want to unfairly demonize white men.

[Opinion Owner]

"And I'm giving you a first hand account of actual Asian girls"

Girls care more about your attributes rather than your race.

"BUT I see Asian girls only ever dating attractive and/or successful white guy"
Then why do less Asian women prefer black/latino/asian men in dating websites when they fill out their preferences? This has nothing to do with money since the question on the website is only about race not money, but even if you compare rich black guy, rich Asian, rich latino, rich white guy they SILL will prefer white guys

Based on what you're saying Actual Asian girls

[Opinion Owner]

"And I'm giving you a first hand account of actual Asian girls"

All Asian girls are actual Asians what are you talking about?

[Cosytoasty]

Like I said, I have large numbers of extended family in North America. I fly there twice a year, text with them most every day, socialise with their friends when I'm over there. I can give a LOT of different Asian women as examples. When I say actual Asian women I mean the ones that are not a freakin' picture on a website.

See this is where I think your perception of the thing is warped, in every post you have drawn your conclusions on internet sources and... dating websites lol. You realise the reason people resort to those is because they have hit rock bottom right? When you go and interact with "actual" (this is what I mean by actual Asian girls) communities you'll find very few will even date outside their own race, let alone fetish white guys.

Other races are a different story, because our older generations are racist asf and see them as lesser creatures - therefore the girls simply avoid the headache of explaining their boyfriends to parents.

[Cosytoasty]

The same actually goes for white guys there aren't that many who fetish Asian girls either, however there are far more men who are actually willing to go intentionally find an Asian wife than there are Asian girls who will go hunting for a white husband.

[Opinion Owner]

@Cosytoasty You realise the reason people resort to those is because they have hit rock bottom right?" Nope fallacious argument. People don't use dating websites because they hit rock bottom, thats a load of bull.

I never said all or most Asian women in real life do that, but I did say most in dating websites do, and also I was clear about this being a trend in certain pockets but still a trend. When you go and interact with "actual" (this is what I mean by actual Asian girls) communities you'll find very few will even date outside their own race, let alone fetish white guys.

But even when you see statistics not on online but interracial marriages, East Asians women are still more likely to be with white men.

"See this is where I think your perception of the thing is warped, in every post you have drawn your conclusions on internet sources" My views are warped,? I provided statistics, you try to based things of personal experience. Are you sure you aren't talking about yourself

[Opinion Owner]

@Cosytoasty so you have no problem generalizing white men but get offended when I try to point out actual trends in some pockets in the Asian-SJW community?

"there are far more men who are actually willing to go intentionally find an Asian wife than there are Asian girls who will go hunting for a white husband"

Really, because there are tons of Asian women that when foreigners go to Asian they can;t wait to be picked up and married. And this isn't just about money, because black foreigners are not treated the same by the women over there no matter how rich. You wanna talk about family in the USA, well I can easily talk about friends in Asia as well.

[Opinion Owner]

Also there are dating websites that Asian women sign up for, and I'm not even talking about the fake ones with fake profile, I'm talking about real ones where they are basically mail order brides and voluntarily. And it's always preference for white guys.

[Opinion Owner]

@Cosytoasty Of corse this doesn't speak for most white men and women, and I'm not saying that white men don't fetishize Asian women what I am saying is that many SJW-Asians do fetishize white men and they get away with it and many SJW Asians exaggerate yellow fever and under exaggerate white fever.

And actually many Asian men do feel mistreated, not just online, there has been polls about Asian men and how they feel, most of them feel Asian men aren't made out to be sexy, they have to compete against white men, etc. Look it up online there are tons of peer review, some done by harvard as well and sex positive media.

[Opinion Owner]

I don't see why it bothers you that I'm basically defending Asian men and saying that people should appreciation them more, and not demonize or consider them low on the sex appriciation list.

[Opinion Owner]

"When I say actual Asian women I mean the ones that are not a freakin' picture on a website"

Dude those are real profile and twiter accounts, some of them even have Instagram.

It's so hard to beleive there are self hating Asian women out there?

[Opinion Owner]

Not to mention many SJW-asians double standards of cultural appropiation.

I mean I'm only talking about a certain section of Asians, yes you're right it doesn't represent most Asians.

Guess what dude? Most black and latino gang members and thugs or anti-white racist don't represent all latinos or blacks either, but that doesn't mean it's not a problem or trend that's important to notice.

[Opinion Owner]

It just seems many people like you want to overly exaggerate white men fetishizing but never look at the other side. The only difference is that Asian women get away with it.

Just how when a white person says something racist it's the worst thing ever, but if a black or latino says something anti-white it slides right by without the media going insane.

[Opinion Owner]

What I don't like is double standards and exaggerations. I also get mad at white people who judge Asians because some Asians eat dogs but in reality, there has been many cultures in the past that ate dogs like indigenous tribes in the americas, and also there's nothing wrong with eating dogs any more then eating a pig, but because many people adopt this "WHITE" standard of judging food many think "Dogs are friends not food, fuck asians" when people in other parts of the world could just as easily judge Americans for their food choices like pigs and lamb.

So when the other side shows double standards I also defend the Asian community and defend peoples rights to eat their dogs, obviously it doesn't represent the whole Asian community but they still don't deserve to be judge for their food choices. Also I'm only talking about choices not treatment of animals, thats another topic

[Opinion Owner]

Also I don't like the double standards some Asians have, that if a person is super into anime, or japanese stuff hes' a weeaboo but if you go to parts of asia you'll see many Asians adopting western culture, cartoons, slangs, food etc.

Based on that logic we should call Asians that do this White wannabees,

What about Asians that like black culture? Yellow Niggers

Or Asians that like Latin culture? Yellow Beaners

I'm just giving examples of another double standard.

[Opinion Owner]

"It's not a fetish to want to date up, it IS a fetish if you date down just because of race"

Elaborate please, I don't even understand what this means.

[Cosytoasty]

Let's look at marriages logically (to some extent dating) then. In the USA/Europe = majority white, therefore interracial marriages/couples IF they do happen are going to be... with white people on average right? Simply because there are more eligible white partners than any other minority.

There is also far more family pressure place on Asian guys to not date anyone outside of their race because we continue the family line and names while the girls marry "out" ... this is just one of things that is NOT taken into consideration when you simply pull statistics from the internet and take them as gospel.

Also, I have never for one moment labeled all white men like that, in fact i specifically stated that people who fetish another race in general are a tiny minority. However the actual question from the OP, specifically says "leave the PC nonsense at the door".

[Cosytoasty]

I just firmly believe that WITHIN the fetishising minority, it swings towards white men pandering after Asian women. You could make the opposite argument in Asia and i'd probably agree with you.

As for Asian guys feeling mistreated, the crying is something i have very little patience for. I was brought up old school to punch a bully in the mouth, so from my PoV most of the time these guys bring it on themselves. You can defend them if you feel it's your duty, but for me I think they, or anyone else that sits back and complains about the injustice of the world, are a little sad.

[Opinion Owner]

@Cosytoasty Wait can you explain this part, I didn't even understand

"It's not a fetish to want to date up, it IS a fetish if you date down just because of race"

Elaborate please, I don't even understand what this means.

[Opinion Owner]

And by the way I will say there is a difference between a fetish and a preference. Also when talking about preferences and fetishes, it's important to distinguish race and ethnicity.

Race = a group of people with similar characteristics

Ethnicity = Heritage, culture, language etc

So a person for example that has a preference for East Asian women could be broke down to 3 parts.

Part 1 = He prefers the characteristics that are common on East Asian women, the Eyes (epicanthic fold) and other facial features, but it's only based on appearance and not culture.

Part 2 = He doesn't really care about their physical appearance, his preference seems more from his interest in the cultures around east asia. (Just how a White American might prefer a white British but it's more about his accent, culture, heritage not race)

part 3 = It's a mixture of race and ethnicty

[Opinion Owner]

But I have a question about racial fetishes? Why are race fetishes morally wrong?

Let's say for example, There's a white women who goes to a club and she just wants to sleep with a black guy because of her black fetish, and there's a black guy who goes to a club who wants to sleep with a white women because of his fetish, this white woman and the black guy meet and decide to have sex and fetishize each other.

They are 2 consenting adults, it makes them happy and they are aware of what's going on, no one is getting hurt or manipulated.

So what exactly is wrong with that?

Do I want someone to fetishize me? No I don't want that

But if other consenting adults want to, why is that wrong?

[BlueCoyote]

Why do we have to call this "fetishizing". You're just unnecessarily putting a stigma on it. Why can't we just say that people of different races are particularly into each other? The terms "fetishizing" or "yellow fever" imply that people are unhealthily obsessed with certain races or that they romanticize them in a creepy way. Both is not true for the vast majority of Asian girls and white guys in mixed-race relationships. I'm not unhealthily obsessed with Asian girls just because I find them particularly hot. That's like accusing me of having a pizza fetish because I love pizza over other foods. I just love it. That doesn't mean all I ever talk or think about is Pizza. Same with Asian girls.

[BronzedAdonis]

Based on a lot of your posts, I think you're very naïve at times.

[BlueCoyote]

You know what... maybe that's true. But I still don't think it's nice to put people into these little boxes and laugh at them. I mean... I'm sure there are some white girls who are super into black guys but nobody laughs at them and says "oh you definitely have black fever". For some reason, people only do this with white guys and Asian girls. Now, I can only talk about myself but this is how I feel: I find Asian girls super hot and if I had the choice between girls of different races, I'd probably take the Asian girl most of the time. Just like I'd take pizza over salad most of the time. But that doesn't mean I constantly jerk off to Asian porn or that I go through one Asian girl after another. In fact, my current Asian girlfriend has been my girlfriend for over 6 years and before that I had white girls. I also don't give a rat's ass about submissiveness and those things. I just love the body structure, the almond eyes and the cultural mentality such as the (cont.)

[BlueCoyote]

indirect way of talking. That's also why I don't care about the second or third generation asian-americans or asian-europeans. I'm only into the Asian girls who live in Asia (Japan, Korea, China and Taiwan to be precise).

[BronzedAdonis]

My friend I'm not denying you like them for the right reasons but for PLENTY of guys it transgresses into a legit fetish. that's what this question is about. you denying the reality of the situation isn't helping.

[BlueCoyote]

Alright... I think you're right. Maybe I really don't know. Maybe it's really very different in the US like Blitzkrieger said.

[Anonymous]

i think the white guys fetishize Asian women more than vice versa. just from being a woman, i've never spoken to a female who thinks one race is especially attractive but i have come across guys who have their racial fetishes.

[BronzedAdonis]

I disagree as a general rule, all races of women value white guys more.

[SwolDishWasher]

Logic... you're doing it right pink anon. Id have to agree with her i have a bit of yellow fever rn.

[reixun]

What do you hope to gain from this?

Yup it's the Asian girls that fetishize, good game we're done everyone can go home

[Curlybeauty17]

White guys fetishize Asian women.

[BronzedAdonis]

Why?

[Curlybeauty17]

That's what I have seen more often. I have never seen Asian women emphasizing that "white men are so much more (x)" while there are many white men who claim that Asian women are more beautiful, feminine, etc.

[StickStickity13]

Not true, there's a lot of Asian girls who only go with white guys

[BronzedAdonis]

@StickStickity13 true

[Cosytoasty]

White men fetish Asian girls for sure. My sisters are perfect examples, they had countless white guys chasing them around like puppies. It seems like it didn't matter what the guy was too, because they ranged from genuinely good boyfriend material to unachieving losers who thought they had a chance lol.

The girls actually dated guys of pretty much every race.

[BronzedAdonis]

What race are you?

[Cosytoasty]

Black... 😝

First time I've been asked that on here lol, I am Asian.

[TyroneTerminator2229]

@costoasty I disagree, I think it's about even, at least in the USA, not sure where you live.
I think the problem is east Asian girls get away with white fever but since cisgender straight white men are seem as the bad guy, we put this harsher blame on them.

[TyroneTerminator2229]

There are so many double standards, but I would say a big part of it is comming from some of the pockets in the asian-SJW community

[Cosytoasty]

@TyroneTerminator2229 Well, terms like SJW and cisgender (I actually had to google this lol) have literally no meaning anywhere in the world except for the US so you might be right.

Girls in general care less about race than guys, as long as you're attractive, confident, funny and successful - you'll do well with girls of any race, regardless of what race you are trust me. Guys however, place much more emphasis on the attractive part so if they happen to find Asian girls attractive, they actively pursue them almost to the exclusion of other races thus leading to a fetish.

[ak666]

I definitely see this going both ways, but I'd think Asian girls would generally do it more towards white men because of the great Western influence throughout the world, starting with the likes of Hollywood.

A lot of Asian women will have watched just as many or more films from Hollywood than films from their own country, for example, and they get immersed in imagery of dashing white guys.

That said, the white idols popular in Asia tend to be different from the U. S. Talking to lots of Japanese girls, for example, I thought guys who look very big and strong (different from most Asian guys) like Hugh Jackman or Vin Diesel would be very popular among Japanese girls. Far more popular, it seems, are the likes of Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, and Ewan McGregor. They seem to like the dashing prince charming type more than the most kingly, masculine types.

[COCOCHANEL]

they are all ugly except for leo when he was young. i can't stand to watch hollywood stuff for this reason.

[ak666]

@COCOCHANEL Leo like Leonardo DiCaprio?

[COCOCHANEL]

yes dicaprio

[ak666]

@COCOCHANEL He's one of the ones I forgot to list. I definitely know plenty of girls who don't like Western guys whatsoever here. I'm mainly going by the thought that inevitably there's going to be a bigger Western influence on Japan in terms of media and fashion and pop culture than Japanese to the U. S. Places like Hollywood have dominated the world so I think in general you can expect more of Asian women (as a whole) to develop an interest in white men than vice versa.

[ak666]

@COCOCHANEL (though I also know plenty of white guys who like Asian girls)

[COCOCHANEL]

that makes sense, those dramas and movies are popular

[ak666]

@COCOCHANEL I think so. Also if we contrast to the U. S., for example -- it's a massive country. There are lots of regions that aren't so urban where a white person might have never even seen an Asian girl in person before, or at least not so many. As a result if culture and familiarity play a great role in attraction, I think inevitably there's going to be more Asian women (all across Asia) into white guys than vice versa.

[ak666]

@COCOCHANEL Same, to some degree, with large parts of Europe... and likewise not so much Asian influence in the media.

[COCOCHANEL]

more Asian men need to be in hollywood

[TheFlak38]

Definitely White men. So many seem to be obsessed with them saying how exotic (?) their beauty is and how submissive and wife material they are. Some even order Chinese women from catalogs and then walk through town with them looking at you with pride as if they won some high valued trophy. What they don't realise is that most of these women are the greatest gold diggers.

[BronzedAdonis]

agreed, said guys dismiss Western women as wife material and concoct these contrived rationalizations why Asian women are supposedly superior wife material/better looking.

[Maik567]

Personally I've noticed it more from Asian girls. Maybe it's just bias tho cause I'm not really that into Asian girls. Like I talked to an Asian girl who was complaining about yellow fever to me and I told her that she should just date Asian guys and she was like "haha nooo" I thought that was just pretty pathetic from her.

[Bandit74]

White guys fetishizing Asians is probably more common. Generally with any fetish there are more men with that fetish than there are women.

[BronzedAdonis]

And why do you think white men fetishise them?

[Bandit74]

Exotic looking, short, petite, youthful look, stereotypes of being submissive, and maybe porn depictions.

[suckitbe]

I'd say in the us it is white guys fetishizing Asian girls, bc they're standard issue American and they're "exotic." In Japan it's the reverse, but I've heard that mostly the sluts go for white guys, kinda like white American girls and black guys. 😏

[BronzedAdonis]

Ma nigga ;)

[suckitbe]

😏 yep

[madhatters4]

i think it tends to go both ways.
obviously not all white men have a fetish for Asian women and vice versa but i think it goes both ways for those who do have the fetish

[Phoenix98]

Not me sorry *shrugs* Though I can see the appeal with Asian women they're submissive they like stronger more dominant men, like white people generally, especially in China and Japan and they are raised traditionally and like and support masculinity.

[Blitzkrieger]

I dont know but in Europe we dont have such a thing as yellow fever. Never heard of such a thing at least. We sometimes talk about tasting exotic quisine but never as extreme that it becomes fetish-esque.

[BlueCoyote]

Yes, I agree with you...

[TheLuckyPizzaDog]

white guys have an Asian fetish, Asian girls just wanna golddig on white dudes.

[Anonymous]

Probably men. That said interest is likely even, if not more so the Asian girls than white men. Fetish however doesn't begin at mere preference. A fetish is something entirely different..

[JCT666]

I'd say both, but white guys seem to be more noticeable with their fetishising. I can't speak for myself as a white guy as I'm personally not that attracted to Asian girls...

[ADFSDF1996]

Both; as to why they "fetishize" each other, I'm not sure but it could be for multiple reasons.

[SlitherySnake]

Asian women with white men I would imagine

[BronzedAdonis]

why?

[SlitherySnake]

Women give more of a fuck about relationships than men. Pair that with the herbivore men in Japan who sre single and you have desperate Japanese women like crazy. Also, many of then are "traditional" and like that a lot of white men are "traditionally masculine" and will put them in their place.

[COCOCHANEL]

i have no idea but some guys make strange comments. i don't know about what girls say to guys.

[Anonymous]

white men have more fetishes

[BronzedAdonis]

care to elaborate?

[CT_CD]

I'm not really attracted to Asian women.

[Joker_]

Asian girls

[nevermindude]

Mhmm Asian hahaha