What age do women hit the wall?

[Teenagekid16]

I overheard some 30 year guys talking about when women's looks hit the wall then guys have the upper hand in the dating game. So how long do I have to wait? 5 years. 10 years. 15 years. Or when I get 30 should I just be a sugar daddy to a young girl.

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Can any more girls weigh in on this?

[MazeOfLove]

From a relationship coaches perspective, the guys you were overhearing are clueless and there is a reason why they are even having the conversation and calling it a dating 'game'. When you play games and make plans about what you're going to do with the opposite sex based on their wall, it means you haven't figured out how to get a date and be in a relationship the mature way. This isn't directed at you, but instead those boys you overheard.

Here is a truth that you can look up and verify:
Women hit their sexual peak later than men--meaning, men's libido and sexual energy goes long before a woman's, generally speaking.
So, what about that wall?

Just food for thought.

[Teenagekid16]

Yeah but when they hit the wall they are around the age of their sexual peak. If I was a woman at that age I'd be mad and at the times I turned down sex.

[cavmanier]

"Here is a truth that you can look up and verify:
Women hit their sexual peak later than men--meaning, men's libido and sexual energy goes long before a woman's, generally speaking."

This old wives tale is based off the old Kinsley study survey where women in their 30s reported the most orgasms vs late teens or early twenties for guys. I personally don't think using orgasm rate is an accurate way to define a person's sexual peak, yet someone made this out of context phrase that's persevered through the decades. Also we know women tend to need more of a close relationship bond for orgasm that they're less likely to have at 19 and that more body self discovery tends to be necessary that they haven't learned in their teens. Plus in the 40s or 50s when the survey was done, this was pre-womens sexual liberation so I doubt many felt comfortable masturbating, and not as many young girls were in relationships so there wasn't opportunity for orgasm.

Also I think he was talking about looks.

[MazeOfLove]

@cavmanier yay, I don't think my sarcasm came through enough in my reply. I was trying to suggest that the 'truth' about the wall says what it says about women much like the 'truth' about sexual peak says what it says about men. My real point was, don't play games and don't just listen to a group of 30-something guys for guidance/advice. Knocks against the opposite sex go both ways.

[TripleAce]

Women start becoming desperate around 30. If they still can't find the man they 'feel' they deserve, They start getting moody and cranky

Up until 28 women have the power. That shifts after though as her worth significantly declines from 30 on as men in their 30's match up with women 25 ish --> since younger girls want that mature guy you know

[Teenagekid16]

I can't wait that long. I'm tired of the hot girls that are rejecting me now.

[DianaWest]

i think you gentlemen who devalue older women are being too generous with yourselves. last i checked the majority of you aren't channing tatums, zac efron's, or Zayn Malik's walking around with gleaming six-packs to offer the world. most of you have average physiques, average faces, average intelligence, and average salaries, and trust me, for the majority of you, this isn't gonna change once you hit 35, yet you somehow think women's values is going to decrease after 30. see. and you all wonder why you're still single. no woman wants to be with an idiot that will deem her a worthless human after 30. and unless you are making a 7 figure salary and have a diamond reserve, most young women are not gonna be interested in you, they are gonna be interested in young men who match their attractiveness level. and we all know why they are interested in much older men. and it is most certainly not for "love." i thought men hated gold diggers, but apparently y'all don't. be certain that most 20-year-old women with 40-year-old men have a young, hunky beau on the side, and old daddy is funding his college tuition. not always the case, but if you like to be shallow, don't expect to get a golden woman in your life. expect a nightmare from hell who will strip you of all your assets in the name of "love." and then these same men come on here and complain about how cold and heartless women are.

[Anonymous]

You really think that men always age well? Don't make me laugh!

[Teenagekid16]

I've been told black don't crack. When I'm with my dad nobody would guess there's a 35 year difference between us.

[Chico_brah]

Depends on the girl. Some girls are already going downhill at my age whilst some women in their 30s look smoking hot.

[Teenagekid16]

Hmmm ok. I've seen some hot 30 year olds too.

[Anonymous]

I have seen it happen as young as 15 or 16 but generally it is later18-23. Some women never hit the wall but many peak before 20. It takes longer for boys bodies to physically mature so the age range for them is about 5 years later than girls

[Anonymous]

Well they're hitting milfs and matures now too. So even those have gotten beside themselves (at least it's like that here in Dallas). If you wanna make the playing field more even get money bro.

[Teenagekid16]

Yeah and from what I've seen the MILFs let it go to their heads more than girls my age my friends mom is always talking about the "tons" of guys hitting on her. But I think I'll find a cougar when I'm an adult.

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah the world is sex crazed. Good bye to the family structure.

[Teenagekid16]

I'm sex crazed. The way I see it my early adulthood is going to be one long dry spell. Unless I just fuck MILFs and matures.

[BeastRB]

Sugar daddy is definitely the way to go here

[Teenagekid16]

That's what I'm thinking. I see sugar daddy/sugar baby arrangements so much here in LA. I figure I'll be in my 30s getting blowjobs every night from a 21 year old girl and then when I'm tired with her I shower the next girl with all my gifts and luxury cars.

[BeastRB]

Hmu with a few mil when you're that rich as a thank you for being your inspiration

[soulbabe]

What the hell are you talking about

[Teenagekid16]

When women's looks hit the wall, like girls that used to be hot are now like 35 and guys their age don't want them.

[soulbabe]

My mom's 40 something and guys still chasse her I don't know what you are talking about

[soulbabe]

Hell people still flirt with my 64 year old Grand ma

[Teenagekid16]

I think what you see is just to give compliments to make their day better and most women eat them up. Trust me my mom gets hit on right in front of me and I can tell the guys say the same thing to every other woman maybe that's the case with your mom and grandma.

[soulbabe]

Nope most of them date my mother and try to date my grandmother but she says no all the time

[Teenagekid16]

Yeah ok

[soulbabe]

You calling me a fiber

[Teenagekid16]

Not necessarily

[soulbabe]

No your just thinking it

[Anonymous]

Why not become attractive and not wait?

[Teenagekid16]

Don't give me that even average attractive girls get loads of attention. I'm an average attractive guy.

[Opinion Owner]

Behavior matters more than looks 😑

[Teenagekid16]

Then why did you tell me to become attractive?

[Opinion Owner]

What do you think I meant? 😑

[Teenagekid16]

My looks. Believe it or not that's what girls notice first.

[astrOnaut01]

I've had that "the wall" is at around 30

[Teenagekid16]

Ok. I have a long wait.

[Anonymous]

it changes woman to woman

[CT_CD]

Late 20's.

[Teenagekid16]

Ok thanks. It's too long of a wait. Maybe I'll find a cougar when I'm an adult.

[dolemite68]

usually around 25-30