Do women really "hit the wall" at 30?

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I've heard a lot of men especially online saying this type of bs like women hit the wall/expire at 30 but it just doesn't seem to be true. From what I've seen most women are just starting their glow up at 25-30 then actually peak in their 40s. Like for me personally I'm not even near my glow up stage yet but I have gotten more attractive every year. Thinking I'll probably get my glow at like 35 then peak much later on into my 40s. The whole hit the wall at 30 thing just seems like a ridiculous myth that insecure men made up

OpenClose · Accepted Answer

I don't think age itself is the thing here. It's definitely more in how you take care of yourself.

In the US, it seems to be common that around 30, people really let themselves go in terms of weight. I feel like I'm turned of quicker than most by this. Honestly I've tried to date 40-year-old friends of my dad's who were fit more so than girls my own age if they had let themselves go. Hate to say it and wish I could change it.

With white women in particular, you can tell which ones hit the tanning bed in their teens and 20's and which ones didn't. The ones who tanned look 45 at 30. The ones who didn't still look pretty good. The ones who seem to be insecure at the beach because "they'll blind everyone" look quite a bit younger.

I don't know if "black don't crack" is racist now, but it's true. My saxophone instructor and his mom were at a concert together. He was 30, she was 50. He said at almost every concert his mom attends, he hears "I didn't know you had a sister!" He doesn't. That's his mom. She looks like his younger sister.

ManOnFire · Accepted Answer

No, that stuff is garbage. I hear guys saying that all the time, mostly the ones who identify as MGTOW or Red Pill. I think those guys only say and believe that stuff because they're upset that they're not having success with any women, so they need to convince younand me that a woman’s value at 30 has declined. It is utter bullshit.

I know a ton of women in their 30s, 40s, and even 50s having a lot of sex, dating, or even getting married. Never been a subscriber to that "hitting the wall" philosophy.

420Rachel · Accepted Answer

What does "hitting the wall" even mean? This is something I'm still confused on. Do they mean that women stop reproducing at 30? Do they mean they start looking old at 30? Because this statements simply just aren't true. I'm my mom's oldest child and she gave birth to me at 37, and then had my brother two years later. My neighbor had her son at age 41! And at the OB clinic I see plenty of "older" mothers. As far as attractiveness goes, I myself am 26, fixing to turn 27 in November and I get regularly pegged for being much younger. I've had several people mistake me for being 18-19. Our reproductive health and overall appearances ultimately come down to genetics, various medical conditions, and how well we take care of and maintain our bodies. There are many variables and saying that all women "hit the wall" at 30 simply just isn't a true statement. My mom is in her 60s and she looks about 20 years younger than her actual age. You can't judge a person's health or appearance by age alone.

BlueScorpio · Accepted Answer

a lot hurt men keep repeating this as way to et back at women who have hurt them. There's plenty of women that are capable of starting a family in their late 20s to early 30s. This idea that we all shrivel up and die downstairs as soon as we hit 30 isn't necessarily true. Now yes as we continue to get older it becomes harder to conceive, the but every woman is different. Some women will have fertility issues through their entire life and some won't. Do I recommend trying to have baby in in your late 50s to 60? No, cause around that time menopause creeps in. If it was true that women immediately hit the wall at 30, then I wouldn't be 6 months pregnant and my coworker wouldn't of just had her baby at 36

Pinay_ako · Answer

I used to think 30 was old when I was a teenager 😂. Now I’m two weeks to 40, I don’t feel old at all. So jokes on you, 14 yo me! 😂

You can be 20 and hit the wall early. That depends on you. Celebrities are an unfair example to use. They have money, doctors, trainers to keep them looking young.

MrOracle · Answer

Yes, it's true - but you can't post a pic of an absolutely exceptionally wealthy, healthy, beautiful woman and pretend that this is representative of the average woman. Taylor Swift is a 9+/10 - top 5% at the very least. She's going to get a few more years that most. Her fame, beauty, celebrity, and wealth gives her huge advantages over the average woman.

BUT... even Swift has to deal with biology. Her face and body may remain attractive longer than average, but her womb is still running out of time, and at 30, she has only 10% of the eggs she was born with. Even though there are fewer people choosing to have children today, that doesn't change the fact that the men who COMMIT and choose to MARRY overwhelmingly choose to do that because they want CHILDREN. Yes, plenty of men don't want children, but the vast majority of those men also don't want to marry or commit to a serious relationship today. The men willing to provide the commitment that women (especially once they hit their 30s) WANT, only want to provide that to women who can bear them children. And starting at 30, that becomes increasingly difficult, and often extremely expensive. Fertility treatments are very expensive and not by any means guaranteed.

Let's also be clear: no one is saying that a woman's SMV falls to zero on her 30th birthday. That's not how it works. Instead, it's more like the girl, since she was 15, has been used to having 10 credit cards in her purse that someone always pays off every month, so she can do and buy and get whatever she wants without having to work - and then, starting when she's 28, and through about 32 or 33, those cards stop working one by one, until all of that "endless" easy money is gone, and her only income now is limited to that she has to EARN with HARD WORK. To someone who has always had easy money and never had to work, this seems HORRIBILY UNFAIR - but it's how everyone else has always had it. She had massive privilege while those credit cards worked, and took it for granted, and now that they're gone, she's MAD. And most women have little or nothing to show for all that money they spent (i. e., no husband or kids) in their 20s, when money came freely.

Being told that she's now AVERAGE - when she's used to being seen as a 9+ (because of her youth) - is OFFENSIVE to her. She got really used to her crazy high SMV, and when that falls back into the average range, well, most women go right into denial. But she can't deny that she's getting far fewer phonecalls, far fewer texts and emails, and when she enters a party, far fewer heads turn her direction, while in her 20s, EVERY head turned.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6TXlvXNBWII

These women are SHOCKED at now being treated EXACTLY as they have been treating most men their entire adult lives, having never ever taken 5 seconds to consider how that felt to the men. Now they are finding out, and they're upset.

EmbraceThePain · Answer

Well, it's not strictly facial appearance-wise but other things.

Men, of all ages, usually go for women in their 20s.

Women, as they get older past a certain age will may have issues around pregnancy, specifically defects with their child. Women have a "window" to where a successful and healthy baby can be birthed, where once this window is surpassed increase their chances for problems in pregnancy.

This is also why women seem to mature earlier and faster than men, because that sense of urgency where the body is saying "hey, we need to mature fast because our time to have a baby is limited."

Men can father children at a much older age than women can have a healthy baby.

This is why boys don't mature as fast or early as women do because of no need for urgency.

For women, a characteristic attractive feature is youthfulness and playfulness, which usually gets lost the older she gets or at least doesn't get better.

For men, of course a woman can appreciate a young attractive guy, but other markers of attractiveness seem to increase as a man gets older such as maturity, ruggedness, wealth, career and status success, etc.

These are all masculine features women can find attractive.

MCheetah · Answer

Not exactly at 30, but somewhere in their mid 30s, yeah. Men did not make up women's beauty peaking at 23, women only "settling down" and getting off the C*ck Carousel of Tinder hookups in their 30s, and menopause being a thing.

No, most women do not "peak" at 25-30. MOST WOMEN (globally) have KIDS at 25-30. Sounds like some crap for immature/promiscuous women would say, as ideally, they're supposed to "grow up" and mature out of the loose sex phase by 22, when they usually would graduate college. Doing it at 30 is just pathetic.

And while all of this may sound "mean" or cruel, I am not trying to be. I'm just being brutally honest here, unlike how women are when the genders are reversed. Women's beauty peaks at 23. That is just a fact. In the old days, women would be married at 18 and have their first child by 23. I'm not saying they need to rush things (they shouldn't), but trying to deny reality just because more people are womanchildren and manchildren nowadays and still acting like they're 12 when they're 27, is pathetic, like I said.

So yeah, women hit the wall sometime between 32 and 36, depending on their health and fitness level. Men pretty much have no wall to hit and get more attractive with age (usually due to earning more money and being more mentally mature, which is what women care about).

However, men who aren't Chads do get the sh*t end of the deal in their early 20s when women expect them to be successful and wealthy by then, like older men are. Only around 27-29 do men and women "meet in the middle" and women's dating value (their looks and beauty) starts to fall, as men's dating value (wealth and looks) starts to rise and they become more "equal". So all it balances out in the end.

letuswaltzforthedead · Answer

It depends on the woman because, from what I understand, the wall exists when the woman decreases in youth (aka she's older) and in fertility. There has been multiple studies showing that men preferred women who were in early to mid 20s. Are there men who prefer older women? Yes, even women who aren't milfs exactly. Are there men who prefer younger women? 🤨🤨🤨. Fertility does decline sharply after 27 and at 35, the mom is considered a geriatric mom but there has been women who've birthed in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.

NathanDavis · Answer

one thing though... whoever says these things, they do not count as men...

they are just little douchebags boys that are VERY very very... insecure with their own self

and no, of course is not true, the only wall that there is... is the one that divide these boys from the actual men that do not have to deal with his kind stupid ass mindset lmao

menina · Answer

I turned 30 this year and I must confess that somedays I feel like s**t. I was feeling a little bit hopeless when my birthday was coming and sometimes, I wonder if I'm still in time to make something out my life and my looks.

That being said, I don't think this is true. It all comes down to the way you feel and how you take care of yourself. But still, I'm sad for being 30.

TCredo · Answer

From personal experience, it's BS :) My wife is in her late 40's and still glowing. And... she's gotten more orgasmic which is awesome.

I believe be it men or women, it's a matter of choice if and when one becomes "old". I have known people in their 30's act and approach life as "old" and I know people older than me that act and approach life with vigor. Besides their chronological age, there is nothing "old" about them. Age isn't just relative it's what you make of it :)

matchrestore · Answer

Humans are so much healthier now than they were even a couple of generations ago. Look at what your grandparents looked like at 40 vs what your parents looked like at 40. A lot of that is that a lot fewer people smoke now days, but also sunscreen is a thing that people actually do nowadays, and a lot of common diseases have been eradicated or greatly reduced as well.

Red_Arrow · Answer

No. So many beautiful women are well over 30! They crushed that wall! As for you, I have not seen you so I have no idea if you if you are near that stage or if you will continue getting more beautiful even well beyond that age. But I do know that your personality as we see it on here is great and will probably keep you very popular for many, many more years.

ZackBan · Answer

The wall is very real unfortunately but it changes from one person to the next. Some hit it at 30 some at 40 some even at 25.

The reason you often hear 30 has nothing to do with "insecure men" it's a raise of awareness to the women who spend their 20's aggressively hoeing and racking up an astronomical body count without any semblance of commitment as they will reach an age where they are far less desirable physically and due to their history no one will wanna build a long lasting relationship with them (or at least no one worth dating).

That is sad but also true. While I don't like telling people how to live life there are things you need to admit about the way of the world.

Anonymous · Answer

No. Men are just inherently all pedophiles. Theyed rather sleep with a 15 yr old than a 35 yr old at 40. If there were no laws about age of consent, men would be with teens and YOUNGER girls left and right. I was a 2 to guys my age in high shool but a 10 to middle aged men 🤢 They like children.

xJayleenx · Answer

People are stupid for thinking that a woman’s looks decline after 25 🤦🏽‍♀️ 30 is still young and if a woman continues to take care of herself and actually knows how she’ll still look great 40 and up. Hopefully I’ll learn how to take care of myself better (weight) because I’m struggling wish me luck.

Levin · Answer

I mean, why fight biology.

It doesn't mean women become repugnant at 30 or something.

You just can't fight the energy that a women in her early 20s gives off. Why do you think their egos are totally out of control? You can't have your cake and eat it here.

This is just a biological/hormonal thing. It's to do with baby making.

Probably in the same way that a stable, fit, established man with a good career in his 30s is going to be more attractive than a late teenager or a 20 year old man for you.

Women in their 30s are still perfectly hot. Provided they stay in shape and take care of themselves. Which they seldom seem to, in this modern society, alas.

Just as you'd say that men in this modern society don't cut it for you.

Again, having your cake here.

DoctorSex · Answer

It all depends on what type of man you want.

If you want a traditional man. Then yes, 30 is probably even too old. Although I'd say it actually has less to do with reproduction as many men use as an easy escape button. I think it has a lot more to do with femininity/introversion.

With age and time comes Extroversion and masculinity as a result of having to "grow up" as a single woman. I also believe money has a horrible effect on women. Similar to "The Ring" in Lord of the Rings.

I firmly believe money has a spiritually corrupting nature to the feminine and transforms it masculine.

Name one truly feminine woman who has a lot of money, you'll find very few.

However there are plenty of introverted, less traditional men that would enjoy an Extroverted assertive woman.

Kind regards,

DoctorSex

USLegionary · Answer

Yes. Taylor has held together well though. You shouldn't use famous actresses as a gauge as they've got trainers, makeup artists, photographers, surgeons, dieticians etc. Generally a woman might be attractive still in her 30s even 50s and 60s but not as attractive as she was in her teens and 20s. Rose McGown young vs old Meghan Fox young vs old

Alwayreckles93 · Answer

Not sure what kind off dumb ass says that we age horrible at 30 we do not. Honestly I have seen woman over the age 30 and they look way better more skinny at 30's then 20's. My bestie she is 30 but people always think she is 18 .

Smoothing · Answer

All I can say is, when it comes to settling down, your a woman's looks doesn't matter that much. But if you are talking about attracting men, a woman can be 45 and still be attracting men.

When it comes to settling down, I think @Moose304 has spoken facts. If you are a woman and not locked at 35, you could be playing with fire. Giving birth not only becomes more difficult, but also expensive. Very few men are willing to go through that hustle.

Most serious family oriented men I know, settle down to start a family. Which means they aim for women who can give birth easily. Which is women below the age of 30. 25 to 30 is the best age for women to start a family.

Men don't have to worry to much about that. A man can still have soldiers matching at 60. Even when he is going through ED, the soldiers keep matching.

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

It’s good that you think so highly of yourself, but “the wall” doesn’t reflect your self esteem. It reflects other people’s opinion of your value sexually and romantically. There is definitely a wall. Women who prioritize too many things above finding “ Mr. Right”, particularly their careers, will reach a point at which they value their accomplishments too much, in a manner of speaking. They’ll think they’re still “young enough” and “beautiful enough” to attract men PLUS they have a great career. Well, dudes don’t care about your career accomplishments. Societally we still expect men to be providers. Even if a woman makes a million dollars a minute, she’ll expect her fella to make a million and a half. She’s also not as young, beautiful and energetic as someone who hasn’t wasted two decades on other things. But that’s who she’s competing with, and that’s the biggest hurdle. The wall is real, but it’s easy to avoid if you set your priorities properly.

The_Shadow_Dweller · Answer

Lets look at the life of an actress here. She starts getting heroine roles in between 15 to 30 years. But after that, she may start getting side roles more than the lead role. The industry is swift to replace the actress.

Does that mean she hit the wall? Yes. She did hit the first of many walls in her life.

Every time you age, you hit a wall and you no longer have access to that part. But the good thing is, the people similar to your age have also hit that wall and hence they too, are likely to find only you as their option rather than any other person.

Like @OlderAndWiser said, you just need to look for people around your age only.

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