Why do men bother with women anymore?

[pinkzoesbb]

[Shadow44]

Women can make good friends. I have sme really cool female friends that are awesome. I don't date much anymore due to being busy. I'm also broke. So lack of time, and money is why I'm not currently dating. Also I'm not really putting much effor tinto finding a romantic relationship at the moment because I'm just not interested in one. There's a lot of things I want to do and get around to that currently interest me. Though if I found the right girl I wouldn't mind getti into a relationship because just like a lot of other things in life relationships can bring a lot of happiness, and positive experiences in life.

[pinkzoesbb]

Thank you for your honest answer. You don't have a negative outlook on women always nice to hear it.

[metalsucks2]

@Shadow44
If you are attractive according to women's standards you will have no issues finding the "right girl".

[Shadow44]

@metalsucks2 though not every woman has the same standards. There are some who are stuck up and looking for prince charming and many others who aren't. I've had three girlfriends in the past and a few other women interested in me where we figured out that we just weren't compatible and that's okay.

For guys having a hard time getting a girlfriend, my advise is to stop caring about having one and just live life. Take a break from dating and looking and enjoy yourself. A girlfriend doesn't mark your self worth and you shouldn't let it. Keep meeting people and that will improve your chances of finding a good girlfriend. You don't need 3.5 billion women, you only need one. So yeah it can be searching like a needle in a hay stack but going out, trying new things and doing things you love is like taking a neodymium magnet to that hay stack.

The women with impossibly high standards will be the ones truly unhappy in the end and that's their problem to solve not ours (men).

[Shadow44]

No problem, it's stupid to lump all women together for the few bad ones I've happened to come across.

[metalsucks2]

Thats the problem I have NEVER dated not even kissing.

[Shadow44]

@metalsucks2 and that's okay. I know it's easier for me to say this being I have some experience. Though the thing I learned after my last relationship ended is that when you're single you have way more time to experience stuff and you save a lot more money when single. So being single does have its benefits.

For you I don't know you personally and don't really know anything about your situation. So I'm not sure what tips to give you to help you out. I will say this though there are women with lower standards and there are women who aren't bad looking who'd just be happy to get approached by a guy. Yeah I know some women will complain about only having shitty men approach and then reject the decent men who do approach but then again that's their problem not ours. I actually had a friend like that and when she asked advise on an actual decent guy I told her to dat ehim and give him a chance. They're going on month 8 now. She solved her problem.

[Shadow44]

Though for you just keep looking there's a lot of different types of women out there and there's probably a few that are extremely similar to you, that would be haply to find a guy like you. You just have to keep looking and find them.

If you don't mind me asking, what are some of the things that you're interested in? Also how do you go about approaching and meeting women?

[metalsucks2]

- I don't approach women.
- I don't meet women.
- Im Indian and women hate Indians due to (insert stereotype here)

In terms of interest no one likes what I like, no one likes EDM, no one likes Football (soccer), no one likes Cricket etc. I don't think any woman would be interested in a guy who likes European sports.

[Shadow44]

@metalsucks2 To be honest I'm more of. Metal head and I run into a lot of people who love EDM. There are a lot of women who don't like sports but their boyfriends do, they also listen to pop and hate rock and their boyfriends are the opposite.

Any woman worth dating wouldn't care if you liked european sports. Not dating a guy because he likes certain sports is in my opinion shallow. Most women don't hate on a certain race due to stereotypes, especially if you don't let the stereotype define you. I'm black for example, I grew up in a not so rich family, and I'm not ghetto. I'm in my last year of undergrad with a plan to go for a masters and people see me as such. I also respect women which has helped with meeting women and dating a bit.

I think you should approach women a bit more even if it's not to date at first. Start a small harmless conversation and go on your way. It's a good way to help you start meeting woman. If you meet one you like then ask her out.

[Shadow44]

@metalsucks2 you may get a lot of no's but you'll get yes's too and eventually one of those yes's will get you into a good relationship. Though that won't happen if you don't approach or meet women. I have a lot of indian friends and they're all pretty awesome.

Don't sell yourself short. You seem like a cool guy, and I'm sure that if you put yourself out there and give yourself a shot then there are women who will be willing to date you.

[metalsucks2]

My point is European sports are seen as "gay Eurotrash" and not "manly".

[Shadow44]

@metalsucks2 then you don't have to start off with telling them you like european sports. Let women get to know you first before letting them know you like european sports. Focus on showing the things that you view as positive first, then show a bit more and more once they get to know you.

Though to be honest liking european sports and EDM isn't a deal breaker for a vast majority of women. I don't care much for sports (odd exceptions being fencing, archery and parkour/freerunning, and maybe chess if you consider that a mental sport), and to be honest that's not considered manly. Trust me when I say most women won't care. They take intrest in a guy that has passion. Passion for something makes them attractive and if that's EDM and european sports for you so be it. Though if you have other interest partake in them.

Also there probably are women who like both european sports and EDM they may not be the majority but they are out there.

[metalsucks2]

Then why do they like going to NFL tailgate parties and superbowl parties and NBA parties etc?

[Shadow44]

@metalsucks2 the go to NFL tailgate parties, superbowl parties and NBA parties because of a few reasons. They either like parties and go to any party available, they go to socialize and meet people, they go with their significant other as a couple, or they go just because they like those sports.

Though just because a person likes American sports doesn't mean they dislike european sports. Heck they may have not even been exposed to european sports. Either way it's not a dealbreaker.

I like metal, it's not a popular genre especially a lot of the subgenres i like. I'm interested in computers, chemistry, physics engineering and math, most of these are male dominated and not the main interests of a lot of women. Also I'm a bit of a gamer which isn't a huge attraction factor for a lot of women. Though I was able to date women. Women who didn't like metal and science (or the same sciences), women who weren't really gamers. We experienced new things frm each other and that made things good.

[Dale1982]

The vocal few fuck it up for the masses. It's a crime. The young ones are the worst hit. You got young girls on this not even out of school who are born man haters. That's never gonna change the rest of their lives. After a certain age your personality sets in concrete

[pinkzoesbb]

Do you think feminists have played a large part? What about the non-feminist? I don't agree with them.

[Dale1982]

This stuff isn't reaching a global audience. It's only the impressionable, the gullible and the outright wicked and bitter who are embracing it. The odd case who do go by it's laws are avoided like lepers. I'm talking all these stupid groups and ideologies. Most people are smart enough to see it for what it is, social engineering. Divide and conquer. Seriously, they make it out as if men and women have been miserable for generations and they've came along to sort it out. They weren't, they were happy. Whatever feminism started as it has been twisted into a monster and the male version is just as bitter coz it was totally reactionary. Problems are being manufactured out of thin air by elite groups and sold to the public as epidemics, it's called propaganda. You can't live a life based on hate, it doesn't work. Everybody on this planet was born out of love by a male and a female, maybe it was brief, maybe it lasted a lifetime but it happened. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face

[CameronStark]

Yeah, I have to chime in - the radical man-hating feminists ruin things for EVERYBODY! Guys and girls are different, but we're both valuable for our unique traits. Neither one is more or less valuable than the other. I'm sorry, I've been very hurt in my life by radical feminism, and the way they hate men. I don't hate women at all, and I love them. I hope for women to value us and respect us and love us too - just as we should for them. Men don't hate women, Asker, we actually really, really love women. We don't want to live without you. A world without you would be a world not worth living in.

[Dale1982]

@CameronStark thats the point. Men and women naturally like each other, there's no need to get political about it in the first place. When you get down to it, women drive everything a man does in life. If there were just men I wouldn't bother with anything apart from getting drunk and out my face on drugs every night, probably fight all the time. What's the point in getting money, dressing nice, keeping in shape, knowing stuff and doing anything really if there's no women to impress as the end goal? Fuckin pointless world. Men always cherished women, the whole feminist mantra is ridiculous. They're always hatchet faced cows who could repel water away from the shore with theor dead eyed looks. That's not a seeker of any type of justice it's pure personal spite and bitterness coz men mistreated them coz they deserved it or men weren't interested at all. If you can't join them male their life hell. Nature gives you everything you need,

[pinkzoesbb]

I'll be honest I don't know all the different forms of feminists. I haven't found the need to follow or learn something I don't agree with. I have a basic understanding of the movement. Don't get me wrong, I want to be treated with respect and not looked down upon because I'm female. Ultimately I am female. I like my gender. I don't want to be treated like a man. I believe a man complete a woman. We were made to complement each other. I agree a world without men wouldn't be worth living. Men are mentally stronger I'm grateful to live amongst such strength. I don't want to do what some men do. I don't have the physical strength nor do I feel the need to obtain it. I could go on and on. Bottom line I wanted to thank both of you for keeping an open mind and not hardening your hearts.

[CameronStark]

@pinkzoesbb my heart will never be hardened towards women, no matter how much feminist vitriol I hear. I know that not all women hate men this way. I have a mother and sisters, and I know they don't hate me. I love them, and I love women in general. I'm really sorry that some women have been so hurt by men that they just hate all men. I wish I knew how to heal them. There are men out here who value, respect, and love women. Disregard those guys who don't, and please, all us other men are asking for is some gratitude when we treat you well! A 'thank you' from a woman makes me want to kiss her feet.

[pizzalovershouse]

cuz we want a girl who is able to fit with us

[KittyC860]

Because they still need somewhere to stick their penises in

[CameronStark]

Alright, @KittyC860, yes, that is a really nice feeling, and that is all some worthless guys go for. But I really want to stick my penis into a girl who loves me and wants me to do that, you know?

[MikeHanel]

@KittyC860 pretty much. Plus they smell nice ;)

[mikepaw82]

Lmao

[Passinggas]

I am getting a vasectomy because I have absolutely no long term plans with a woman. I will continue to have sex with girls and have short term live ins but if I can get chemically castrated without the terrible side effects I will. I hope someone invents a better alternative.

[pinkzoesbb]

This is the best answer. Thank you for your honesty.

[MackFreeze]

Dude, dont let the pursuit of pleasure control you! You will never be satisfied

[PoliceLivesMatter]

It's an unfortunate dilemma. We know women can be absolutely lethal and actually weaken us, but at the same time we can't help but be attracted to them... It's like knowing you're drinking poison, but can't stop because the taste is unbelievably good

[pinkzoesbb]

Then why are so many men so angry? Why not just leave us alone?

[PoliceLivesMatter]

It's complicated lol

[HikerDude]

I actually like women and make better friends with them than men. Add to that the fact that God has programmed me to crave sexual contact with women makes them almost indispensable to me.

[pinkzoesbb]

Thank you! That's what I wanted to hear. A genuinely positive comment towards females. 👏👏👏

[HikerDude]

Most of the bitterness is because so many guys can't get girlfriends or sex. I've never had that problem. Bitterness is just the residue of disappointment.

[CameronStark]

Because I love women. It is so nice many times, to just be around someone who is so caring, and is so feminine and nurturing as I share my feelings, rather than a guy who is going to be blunt and combative. Don't get me wrong - sometimes I want to be blunt and combative with my guy friends. It's even fun. But there are definite times when a woman's feminine touch, caring, and perspective are priceless - I don't want to live in a world without that.

[CameronStark]

I'll add about the guy friends - they set me straight when I need to be set straight, and don't put up with my BS. That's good too. I honestly need that. You really need both the masculine and feminine perspectives and influence in your life, whether you are male OR female. I actually believe that is why God gave us to each other.

[pinkzoesbb]

Omg! Perfect answer. I think the same. Women are made for men and men for women.

[metalsucks2]

@pinkzoesbb
But women want only certain men and only certain men get women.

[CameronStark]

@pinkzoesbb I am with you. I believe that's true. We can't live without each other. We wouldn't want to! Yes, we were made for each other, by a loving creator.

[CameronStark]

I can't help but believe that.

[pinkzoesbb]

@metalsucks2 Of coarse. Can you say you are attached to every women you see? I know I'm not to every male. That's how it works.

[metalsucks2]

Yes I understand some men will remain a virgin for the rest of their lives because they are ugly and there is nothing I can do about it but accept defeat.

[Corerue]

Because a sausage fest isn't what I want in life. If rather have her unique perspective and input. Also sex is good too. There's too many perks to list with why women are great.

[pinkzoesbb]

Thank you. I've read so many hateful comments towards women. I'm happy to hear a positive one.

[Corerue]

Your very welcome! Often times we allowed our narrow views to blind us from the positive aspects. Often making us reactive instead of proactive in debates or forums.

[kenworth]

As for bothering with women. I dont find it a bother at all. Havving a woman in my life. Makes me want to do everything better in life. Hearing a sweet voice of a woman after a hard day at work just melts all my stress away. Simply put. For me i find that a good woman completes me.

[Gayview_Mahat]

Women are cool. I enjoy the company of my female friends so its important for me to "bother" and annoy them. lol

[pinkzoesbb]

This is what I was looking for. A positive reply without hate! Thank you!

[Gayview_Mahat]

When you grow up in a house with four women and currently have four little nieces, it would be absurd to just hate on women. Haha

[Ionatan]

Because they are just as human as I am, have feelings like I do, and are children of the same God I am.

[pinkzoesbb]

True!

[Streamhopper]

Same reason I bothered with them before - because I love her. I'm willing to work 30 hours a week for her (I do) and a full time job on top of that. I do it out of sheer love for her. Maybe it counts and maybe not.

[pinkzoesbb]

Thank you!! Perfect answer. 👍👍

[Streamhopper]

Aww, thank you. I'm not sure why I got down voted. But honestly, no matter what happens, she's the world to me. I know I'm not perfect; way far from it. But if I'm good enough for her that's all that matters. :)

[mjz00]

hey @Streamhopper can i chip in here, you are a rare gem it seems lovely to see, can i ask would you say you have more old skool type roles if you are working so much? is she a mum or runs the home more? etc xx

[Streamhopper]

She's going to school, I pretty much do the work, keep us fed and clothed. :)

[Marklaw12]

Behind every successful man is a woman. Enough said.

[pinkzoesbb]

This is the perfect answer. Thank you!!!

[Marklaw12]

You're welcome

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Women are important. Not to many things in life are better than a good woman. Trust me on that.

[pinkzoesbb]

Thank you!!!

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Look at the 2 losers that down voted me. Smh. I'll bet you they are bitter men that desire a woman but can't get one. Lol

[Shadow44]

Life is full of fulfilling experiences outside of relationships. There's a lot to see and do out there and a lot of it is amazing. Though yeah relationships are also realy amazing too. Though just because guys don't agree with you doesn't mean they're bitter

[Deydey12345]

4 guys thumb you down.

[Deydey12345]

You are awesome tho. Thank you :)

Opposed to some other losers XD

[OlderGuy965]

I thumbed you up.

[Nahid1234]

i know, they’re confusing. Girl play games.
They put in no effort and appreciation.
They’re impossible to please. 🤷‍♂️

[pinkzoesbb]

I like you. So I won't rip your answer apart. But can you explain why you feel this way?

[Nahid1234]

Please don’t ever tell someone the first three words. 😂

[Nahid1234]

They seem uninterested and not bothered.

[pinkzoesbb]

What?

[Nahid1234]

Please don’t ever tell someone the first three words there, on how you started the response answer.

[Nahid1234]

And they seem not bothered in wanting to talk. Girls from my experience.

[Nahid1234]

Made sense?

[Nahid1234]

Nice talking

[pinkzoesbb]

Yes makes sense.

[Nahid1234]

😊😊

[OlderGuy965]

I like to fuck! Ok... There's a lot more to it than that but, c'mon, you know I'm right!

[pinkzoesbb]

Sure you're right! Lol.

[Titan123]

Umm your questions would be why do guys jump into a relationship with the wrong girl. That would be batter because not every girl is bad. Some are worth fighting for.

[Phoenix98]

Some of us still have hope for women that or we want to get the good ones that left while they're still around.

[Catskills]

Because men love women. We need them. I know I need my woman.

[Intraluminal]

Because we like them and they smell good?

[pinkzoesbb]

Good answer! 😊

[OlderGuy965]

Haha, yeah. For sure!

[SVUCE]

Well, because they are people too. If they want to have a relationship (friend, accuantance, girlfriend, wife, etc.) Then they will bother.

[Maxemeister]

Procreation?
Sex and pleasure?
Fun? Both in the bed and out of it?

[Wally48]

As Frank “The Fixer” Tagliano said: "women are food."

[SupMates]

I only date tomboys, but I'm with friends with girly girls as well

[metalsucks2]

I wish I could have a woman but Im ugly so that will never happen.

[Corerue]

Never say never, not every woman is going to judge based on looks alone. So keep looking.

[metalsucks2]

@Corerue
True they also judge men based on race. Im sure women wouldn't want to date you if your race was portrayed as apu, taxi driver, tech support and "rape culture".

[Corerue]

Then set your bar higher for yourself. Start working out, do something to change yourself to better yourself. Also, be more confident. I'm white af but I don't place myself in Nazi culture because I'm white. Nor does every woman I'd meet, they often judge by actions not just type alone.

Often times women pick up on your nervousness and lack of confidence. It's a major turn off. Self deprecating is not attractive. So do something to make you better and eventually you will meet a woman who want you for you. But being negative I'd not attractive man.

[metalsucks2]

@Corerue
Yes you are right it is all my fault and never women's.
And tell me how can someone not be negative about himself when everyone around him is negative about him.

You are a white guy so you will never understand. You are portrayed as muscular dudes who save mankind from aliens etc meanwhile my race is portrayed as taxi drivers, nerds, etc.

Women don't judge you because you are white but they like to judge Indian men and put us all in the same group aka "creepy smelly pervert who harasses women" because if X amount of Indian men are assholes it means all Indian men are assholes.

[Corerue]

Dude, I never said it was your fault. I'm saying stop judging yourself based off stupid stereotypes and whites are hated on a fair bit nowadays. I'm not muscular nor anything special. My kids get judged on their skin and they're not even seven years old.

If you live in America and think whites aren't hated on. News flash we're the devil, racist, etc. :(

Again, just focus on yourself, make yourself better and you will meet a girl who suits you. But negativity is a cancer. Gotta let it go and your right, I won't understand because I don't think that way about people/race.

I just see that we are all quick to judge each other and that's wrong. If you are around people who do that to you then that really sucks. It's hard to change that situation if it's at work but if those are friends then they aren't your friends.

Friends don't do that. wasn't trying to upset you, nor out you.

[Corerue]

Also, what I said about confidence and such, is because I was like that. It took my wife to realize I was really hating on myself when I didn't need to.

Was just speaking from experiance.

Peace.

[metalsucks2]

@Corerue
Ok look at the movies. Do you see any attractive Indian men in the movies? Why is there no Indian marvel superhero. Ever watched deadpool? In the opening scene the hero deadpool is in a taxi with a stereotypical Indian. There is no positive representation of Indians in the media.

at least you white guys have captain America, brad pitt, and (insert all hollywood actors here) to represent you. And who do I have to represent me? Rajesh from big bang theory? kumar from harold and kumar? Apu from the simpsons? The sikh turban guy in every taxi scene in every movie?

[vjedi]

Because we like them.

[pinkzoesbb]

Good answer. 👍

[TruthOfCoral]

why do women bother with men anymore?

[Eddieniceboy]

You beat me on this one. Truth

[TruthOfCoral]

well she's asking something that can be answered easily with a gender flip

[Eddieniceboy]

Nicely done sir!

[pinkzoesbb]

TruthOfCoral If you're on the home page of the app. At the very top is a + sign. Go ahead and push that. You can ask your own question there. Ok thank you.

[TruthOfCoral]

this is where we get into intelligence now people! I want you to ask yourself the question I just asked you, go ahead, maybe, just maybe you will get the answer yourself because women and men are not two extremely different kinds of people, like we both have so many common interests, men get lonley and so do women, men want money oh hey so do women, that girl over there is looking for a relationship to feel loved? oh hey so is that guy! like even wikipedia could have answered this question so simply and we all know how it isn't very much of a factual place known for being right. but why bother asking something so pointless when you can easily ask yourself in reverse about it and get your answers. now tell me how a 37 year old needs to ask this question because you should be old enough to know for yourself that we are all human and everyone is looking for something.

[Deydey12345]

I so agree with you. You shouldn't even need to explain yourself here since what you meant was very obvious!! I honestly don't know what is wrong with her but since she's asking the question it must be because she herself hate women, prettier than her women XD

[FýrdracaDócincel]

Can you perhaps explain a bit deeper?

[pinkzoesbb]

I'm asking because I'm disgusted at the over whelming bitterness men project on to women. I'm curious to why not just give up?

[FýrdracaDócincel]

Most of them are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They want to improve themselves but they don't know where to start, how to start there, or why they should start in those places. They're trapped in a way and the frustration builds up until it turns to bitterness.

Now, do I commend the things they say? No. But I can relate to the sentiment. Information and insight into how a guy can work on himself to boost his success is hard to come by. Note that I'm talking about the clear, honest and constructive stuff. It's pretty rare right now to find a woman who both understands women better than most other women, as well as speaks fluent Dude. Hell, I had to really dig for years before I started to figure out what I'm innately geared towards as a lover.

[FýrdracaDócincel]

For other guys though? It's a constant battle between how much they want help, and how dissatisfied they are with the available help. If I hadn't busted my ass scrapping up all the insight I could and connecting certain dots, I'm sure I'd be like them.

So they don't stop simply because they have a place they want to reach. They don't really hate women ((generally)). It's really just self-frustration.

[pinkzoesbb]

Do you think a lot of guys are putting up a front because they don't want to get hurt?

[FýrdracaDócincel]

What you're describing is typically completely unrelated. Normally when a guy is putting up such a front, he'll appear to not care at all. If anything, he'll seem even more confident with women rather than bitter about them.

But do a lot of guys do that? Yes.

[Timodeum]

I can only speak for myself, and I never bothered with them because they don't bother with me.

[Nahid1234]

Fair reason.

[oldoldold]

sex? food clean socks

[Anonymous]

I'm attracted to women and still date them but I don't bother with marriage anymore and I feel free.

[normalice]

because girls make our penises seem influential.

[Anonymous]

We still want them. Unless they're feminists

[pinkzoesbb]

Not all women are feminists. I think feminists are ruining a mans perspective of women. Thank you for seeing the difference.

[theocray19]

Because I can't suck my own dick

[OlderGuy965]

Hahaha Aahhh hahahahahahaha aahhh hahahahahahaha

[KatherineJ]

I hope it's because we are worth the trouble.

[Corerue]

Men are just as troublesome as women. Lol just in different ways, in my opinion. But it's called life. You can go it alone or with a companion.

[CameronStark]

Hahaha, @KatherineJ! Yes, you are worth the trouble. Totally worth it. I just hope we're worth the trouble, too.

[Corerue]

^ what he said lmao

[Catskills]

no trouble at all,,

[KatherineJ]

That's just it. Men are just as much of a pain as women are. But a good person is worth the pain.

[CT_CD]

I don't

[pinkzoesbb]

Good

[MattNCheesey]

Cuz why not

[Nandor]

tried once and stoped there

[Dudeman1234]

Ummm... Sex. Duh

[pinkzoesbb]

Is that all?

[Anonymous]

Nah, I mostly deal with dancers.

[Anonymous]

why not