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They are SO unbalanced. There are hundreds or thousands of guys for every girl. We just had a topic on this three days ago. I could spend hours explaining how unbalanced and crazy it is.
But some quick numbers I've been able to put together...
1) There are hundreds of guys for every girl. OR WORSE.
2) 99% of girls profiles on there are fake or actively bots. Many are prostitutes. So any real girls are lost in a huge sea of fake profiles that look real.
3) Girls are inundated with offers in minutes. Guys go months without a response (except from bots.) So girls just open Tinder and have unlimited dates. Guys wonder if there is even a single girl on Tinder.
4) A girl will literally get more responses from filling out a profile than a guy will get in months of putting in hours a day trying to meet someone.
5) Even with a decent profile (not special) and blindly swiping right on EVERY picture, for weeks, it is unlikely to get even a single hit for guys. Eventually they will get one, but they are super rare.
6) On the super rare chance that you meet a girl, because the girls have unlimited options they have resorted to ghosting or standing guys up at an atrocious rate.
I've done a lot of research because I'm working on a romcom screenplay based on how ridiculous Tinder is and how little women understand how it works.
Interesting, I do try to understand how Tinder work, but it definitely doesn't seem identical experience for guys and girls.
@MsMusic I've told people to do that. Make a guy's profile, then try to talk to girls. And don't just LOOK, actually try to use the sites. It's insane.
You'll see a million profiles. But read them, most don't quite make sense. Check the profile names, often they have computer codes slyly put into them (look for XOXO, or AAA style letters in names, it's a code.) See which ones respond to you. And if they respond, can they maintain a conversation or does it quickly not make sense. DO they immediately say that they are looking to be spoiled? That's code for it being a prostitute and it is "pay to chat". Or "send me a gift to talk."
Check those pics carefully, 20% of those girls are guys with lots of makeup!
@MsMusic I wish that I could send you my profile so that you can judge it and say "that's average" or "damn you ugly no wonder", haha. But same pic as up there ^^^ actually better ones. I should change that avatar.
But I'd say I get less than one hit for a thousand swipes.
And and VERY often, you'll hear your phone beep. You check Tinder and you see the light saying you got a match. You go into Tinder.. no match, no message. And VERY often someone you were talking to is gone.
That's Tinder catching scammers and prostitutes and silently deleting their accounts. MOST matches have time to alert me that they happened, but are automatically deleted before you open the app.
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This is what I came up with:
"If you're a woman seeking a guy on dating apps, it can sometimes feel like there's an overwhelming amount of men on there. Maybe that's because men (and often the ones you're not interested in) send more messages than women, but it can definitely feel like they're dominating."
"When it comes to Tinder, the most popular dating app, the good news is that it's a 50/50 split between men and women. "
So there you have it. Equal numbers, but the guys will swipe on most every girl. Then all the girls have to do, is just sit back and swipe on the hottest guys. Then the hot guys start sorting through their matches. They're looking for the hottest girl, that's DTF. (And hopefully that same night.)
They start with the 10s and work their way down to the 4s.
So a decent, confident, intelligent guy who's a 7, doesn't stand a chance with getting a girl who's above a 3.
Girls would much rather have a hot jerk, than a decent average guy.
That makes sense, for hookup, I would rather be with the handsome male than good guy, but then again, in long term, its the complete opposite.
That's why online dating is completely worthless for average guys. If you're an average girl, and just want to fuck, of course you want the top guys. And if they treat the women like trash, the women will come back for more. And even the women who're looking for a relationship, will continue to allow themselves to be duped by the hot players and pickup artists.
The truth is... these players are ONLY using you, because the better women weren't available that night. So they end up just settling for less. I think that Tinder is a great place for women to go, who just want to get fucked. If I were a girl, I'd be on Tinder.
But for average guys.. they need to stay grounded in the real world.
Yeah I mean short term and long term is different, but you got it right I think. I'm average and been with really attractive guys, where they using me to fuck? Maybe, but they were sexually attractive so it didn't bother me. I would rather get used by them than having sex with someone less good looking. Then again in long term, the mindset is different obviously.
If you just want to get used, then Tinder is the perfect place. But if you want long term, then you need to stop swiping the hot guys, or just get off Tinder.
Yeah, there are mainly guys on there.
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The gender ratio in dating is just unbalanced in general, and dating apps get a lot of the overflow. The reason is women are much more likely to be "sharing" partners. A desirable guy could date two or three women at the same time and is much more likely to be double-dealing. Women cheat too, but generally it's going to be with men who are themselves cheating. Few women cheat with single men because if they do, they just break up with their boyfriend and date the single guy.
Also, men like my father will knock up three different women, then those women are "removed from play" because they're too busy being single mothers to want to date (although I know a lot of single mothers who do date, I know more who don't). None of them ever dated seriously again to my knowledge, but just raised my worthless father's children.
Only 35% of men in history passed on their genes, whereas 80% of women did (and most of the other 20% didn't because they died in childhood before they got the chance).
so only desirable males have success on Tinder? I guess it makes sense, honestly you can mostly sort guys by look over everything else on Tinder.
@jean_A The way I see it, being a douchebag, whether that's a moral judgment or a character judgment, has nothing to do with attraction because neither morality or character play into attraction at all; however, people who other people are attracted to will get people to be attracted to them whether they're a good person or bad person, so the ones who are shit-heads will continue to be shit-heads regardless.
@Asker Definitionally, only desirable men have success at all. You won't have success if no one desires you. However a lot more undesirable men will be on Tinder because desirable men usually have success without using dating apps.
Well mainly only thinking about yourself and not considering others while hurting them is to my view considered douchebag behavior. And you can see this back even in photos. You can manipulate your pictures and profile in a way so people get the wrong idea. And don't get me wrong, the douchebags are not the problem here. It's nothing more than logical people behave that way. Actually I think it's essential for some guys these days. But it doesn't make it less wrong. Here an explanation on douchebags, douchebag math 101 https:// youtu. be/ESYK8fCEHUQ
I think Western Culture and Society is organized in a way in which women get more disproportionally more proposals then men do.
Men usually take the initiative, instead of women. So, women have more choice when picking a partner, since they get a lot more proposals, while most men end up rejected.
Since women have more offer they try to pick their best ones, often ending up picking the same man another woman did, over and over again.
This creates a cycle, where few chosen lucky guys get all the women and end up treating them in a lesser manner than if they had been chosen less.
This disproportionate difference in gender behaviour tends to make everyone less happy than if there was more equality in gender behaviour.
Everyone try to get the best mate I suppose, it sucks it impact negatively other guys. I gotta admit you have to sort the person you date on Tinder which seem to end up over physical traits most of the time.
Girls have the quality to select the worst partner if even if you present 100 man. So maybe you should ask a guy friend to do the selection for you instead. I used to have 10 matches a day. Now I have none anymore. So seems to get more competitive. From the 400 matches that didn't remove me I think 350 didn't respond. When you don't totally woo them of the world with the first word you say, they will ignore you. This behavior makes it really hard for me to take girls serious. They wanna play a game? Then you shouldn't mind being used as a toy. So choose wisely.
There's so many more guys. I also believe women have higher standards, so it's harder for guys to match with women they find attractive too.
Women don't need to do anything apart from swipe on that app generally and they'll get something out of it.
There's more guys on it
Lots of guys just swipe yes on all the girls
(I used to swipe yes to everyone just to see how many matches I could get)
Tinder is bad for my mental health tho cause it just confuses the fuck out of me.
In person I get a good amount of attention from women. Here I've gotten plenty. But on tinder I get very few matches and I'm like, wtf is the difference?
So I just don't use it anymore cause it drives me crazy.
(Did get a friends with benefits from it once tho)
I feel like tinder is a lot on look, which might be an advantage or not.
I feel like online is a lot different, people don't hide their feeling at all online which can be a bad thing.
Some guys I know get instantly lots of interest but the majority Struggle to get any interest. And a large group get none. Like literally none.
I think there are both more men and also the fact that more of the men are players who want to sleep with lots of women... so they fulfill the needs of lots of women leaving no need for the rest of the guys.
So only a certain % of the guy actually have the hookup on tinder?
Most male tinder users I think give up on using it after a while. Some keep trying with mild success and for a few guys it makes getting laid about as hard as ordering pizza.
I see, I assume its only worth for a selected amount of guys
Well for the mild success guys it might be. Almost every dating opportunity for men involves much more rejection than success. So if they’re getting a few matches s month it might be better than any alternative.
that makes lot of sense.
According to google, the ratio there is 50:50. So for every straight girl that gets a match, a straight guy gets a match. Competition is about the same.
Girls are just more picky about who they will talk to. They are more likely to be in control of a date happening. A lot of that is because a disproportional part of males are interested in a casual night of sex though. Girls often perceive that as thinking they have more interest from guys.
The top 20% of men have their pick of the top 80% of women. The bottom 80% of men have to fight over the bottom 20% of women.
So how competitive it is as a guy depends on where you place in that.
So most women go over the same guys basically?
how is it thinking highly of yourself? If the guy want to hookup, you dont think highly of yourself
Not if the men agree to have sex with them. They don't need the bottom 80% of males if they can get better. They then don't think highly of themselves. If the men would refuse, I would agree with you.
Honestly, most girls probably can get a guy in the top 20% for hookup anyway I think. Maybe they think highly of themselves, but it works out anyway at the end of the day.
I agree with you, was talking about short term, but you are right about long term
Its competitive. Just know that if you use tinder, you're probably not going to find a good match because every guy who you match with probably has every other girl matching with him as well.. and due to the fact that there aren't that many attractive guys in the first place, the chance of the guy going for you is pretty low.
For an average guy, you're lucky to get a match per month. But the top 20% of guys do well at around 5-20 per week. This is because women consider 80% of men to be below average in attractiveness. Only 20% of men are considered attractive by women.
only 20%, I got to admit I can be picky but that's such a low percentage.
I guess we have more narrow tastes, gotta admit I do find the same guys attractive as my friends.
I don't think there's any way to know the ratio, but there are a fair few girls also, but who knows how many profiles are fake? I wouldn't be surprised though if there wasn't more guys on those apps and sites in general though.
Honestly, maybe that could be true haha
There are about twice as many men as there are women.
But the average woman gets 20 times as many matches as the average man.
So, one could say there is quuuite a bit of imbalance.
This.
20 more times, really?
Well, it's closer to 17 times more, but whatever.
... competitive? Once you sift through the fake profiles and cam profiles and the dead profiles do you finally come across a match. Well worded or basic, whichever your greeting may be, chances are, she won't respond. Either that, or you get deaded/ghosted out of nowhere. Doesn't matter how promising the conversation is. I have 67 matches and like 30 some unfinished convos.
I’d say it’s beyond competitive for guys, if anything I think it makes both sides more shallow and looks orientated. I joined tinder as a way of overcoming my aspergers with dating with the idea that it gave me more time to make sure I was saying what I meant. Reality is very few matches most are advertising things and if not they either ghost, don’t reply at all or are looking to make fun of guys. I think overall it has lead to a checklist of attractive criteria that women are looking for which may or may not be possible from the male population.
indeed tinder is really superficial, but at the same, you can only judge people by their look.
Yea way more guys than girls. And most girls only use it for ego boost to hear guys "adore" them. I used it for about 2 weeks and noted stats. Got 107 matches, only 6 messaged first. I only got around to message 70. 45 never responded. About another 10 to or so) just responded once ("hi" or "how are you" or "hahaha" etc.) and that was it. Not worth the effort for me. Girls have it easier but tend to end up choosing jerks (I created a fake profile to confirm this)
Maybe it depends on the size of the city. Was a pretty large city close to half a million population
Well, in my personal opinion Tinder is mainly used by men to find a woman to hookup or have sex with, so they’ll match up with whoever is relatively attractive and is willing. I think there also men on there who are insecure, unconfident, and think of themselves as losers, so you’ll see them not being picky with the assortment of women there are in Tinder.
most dating websites have a small amount of guys who get a LOT of matches, and the majority get some, and a small amount get zilch. Just life--men are less selective.
You think female are more selective on dating apps?
Okcupid found that women rated 80% of men as below average. Women want the Alphas and the Greater Betas out of men. It's just life--most women want the top few dogs.
I mean I think everyone kinda want the top
That's called projection and is normal to think. But men don't need the top girls--we just want not fat, and fairly cute. Thats why girls get sooo many messages on dating sites. Men have hierarchy, and girls want the top. Men don't care about that because most girls can be cute and not obese.
I mean being cute and not obese are standard as well, so you do pick a certain population of potential females.
True, obesity is pretty rampant today
Online dating isn't really practical for finding someone for most guys. It's more like a lottery just swipe right on everyone and see what you got. Maybe you'll get lucky and someone with match, maybe you'll get super lucky and they're actually like you. But it's not something guys should invest much time in in my opinion. It's worth the one to two minutes a day to use all your swipes and then get on with your day, that's all.
If you are a girl, don't have to even be remotely attractive than you will get a hit like in sec (I'm not saying nits wrong just these are the facts and we need not ignore them) a guy on the other hand unless you are like Brad pit level of hot don't even bother!
no problem it seems like the most common answers from guys. I honestly wonder what cause such difference at the end
VERY. ratio of men to women is quite lopsided, and merely swiping right or left is not enough feedback.
Dating sites are pretty much always much more competitive for men than women. Maybe on bumble it's different.
Tinder is very much a have-and-have-not situation.
I say about 10% of the guys get most of the action, so that means most of you guys are sharing the same guys!
That's fine, I always assumed some guys went for many girls, its fine if he is hookup material
lol what you mean?
I joined today. Got a sex date for next weekend.
And it is mind blowing.
If you are hot, you don't need pussy or boobs to turn heads there
Tinder is only practical for women. I've had tinder for over a year and I've never met up with any women, I've only had a handful of matches and most of them are bots.
Im lucky to get a match once every couple months its to the point i just swipe right on everything an hhope for a a convo
I get like 1 match a month and it's not even women I'm really attracted too. A couple of guys get all the match. But I stopped using this app anyway, people there just want sex (yes, even girls)
I've been off and on with tinder. I got two matches in a month. Kind of depressing.
Dating in general is far easier for women than it is for men, men are far more attracted to women than women are to men.
I made a funny profile and got 300 matches. But before i dodnt get much and all my girl friends get tons of matches
Women have all the luck. Tinder just doesn't work for me unless I'm in Asia. In Asia the tinder girls think I'm a stud. Here in UK just not interested.
It's not all luck. You need to make it hard for a woman not to match you. I use a puppy pic and get heaps of matches. One you get their attention you need to not be desperate and creepy, rather fun and flirty adding value so a chick is drawn to you.
I'd say most people probably don't even look and just swipe right to everybody.
In mostly those apps there are more men than women.
I don't know, I get like 4-5 matches on a normal day, and that's good enough for me
And when I'm in the city I grew up in, which is 20x the size of the city I live in, If I use tinder it's just matches all day. Tinder works a lot better if you live somewhere with a big population.
Yeah the ratio is pretty uneven, Tinder is 70% guys. You do the math.
I wouldn't say it's competitive, there's just a lot of nonsense to sort through.
Girls obviously will get way more cause there must be way more guys swiping, most of the people I know including me get stuff all matches
All my matches for the few weeks I used it we're all cam girls that didn't tell you for 3 days after talking to you.
I've used it before and seen it from both sides
Girls are far too picky with who they choose so guys have to swipe on literally every single girl they come across just to have any chance of matching
it's easier to meet people wen you're a woman. guys have no shame or fear and will approach every woman possible in order to increase their odds of success.
Most men are very thirsty and will drink your bath water no matter what you look like.
It's really really bad. It's like 60/30 and a lot of the females are bots
Probably a bit unbalanced. I think guys swipe right like 90% of the time
Guys always swipe on like and women can choose which one they want
I think there’s way more guys on Tinder than girls.
Tinder is a cake walk for girls, for guys it’s like a brutal war
Lol very competitive, tinder is a free dinner and brothel for women
never noticed it, its mostly swiping right and then chatting 👍🏼
I don't get many matches but then again I live in a low populated area.
a lot of guys just swipe right 👉 until they match and then look at her in more detail. I didn't use it like that but nearly all my male friends use it that way
The guys on tinder are either insecure or just looking to smash
Girls get more matches and more options while us guys are getting very little matches well maybe its just me being ugly
I'm pretty sure there a way more dudes than women on tinder, I hardly get matched personally, so I would think you will get loads of matches.
Unbalanced af, I got two matches In two months when I tried and neither of them responded 😡😡😡😡😡😡
Guys swipe right on just about everyone. Women don't
You will always find many more horny guys in this world, anywhere you look.
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There are way more guys on there than girls. And even though most of the guys will gladly bone anything with a hole between its legs, the girls on there are all Holding Out for the top percentile of guys.
Well if you had more option, then it is expected to go for the ''Better'' options.
here's how tinder works.
There are a 100 women matching with the same 3 dudes.
Way too competitive you have to be very attractive to get matches.
Ever see the movie Gladiator?
Like that
A lot more competitive than it is for girls.
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