It's not rigged, girls just have it easier because the platform lends itself better to what men find attractive vs. What women find attractive. We all know guys are more visual than girls. The girls respond to looks? Absolutely, not as much as guys tho
Because of that it takes much less for a girl to get matches because all she really has to do is take good pictures and not annoy fuck out of a guy in her bio. And even then a lot of guys will swipe right on her anyways if she's hot enough to have sex with. That's really it.
So baseline girls are getting more right swipes on average. While girls are looking for a variety of things, including looks to some extent. Like not just how he looks, but his style of dress, what his picture say about him as a person, whether or not he's smiling, what his job is in the title, whether not he's funny, his age
Girls on average have more disqualifiers for guys than the other way around. So just because they have more criteria in their search they are inherently going to be swiping left more often than guys would on average.
So it only makes sense that girls would have a lot more matches than guys would. And that the guys that have a lot of the traits that match the overall criteria for girls get more matches.
Plus girls are kind of already obsessed with taking photos of themselves all the time and getting just the right angles and taking photos all the time with their friends at a bunch of different events. Most girls are going to have at least decent photos of themselves just because they take so many.
While the average guy will have to decide one day. "Oh yea. I should take some photos for Tinder". And they're very unpracticed in the whole thing. I'd say the average guy makes mistakes in Tinder profiles mostly because he doesn't do enough. While a girls mistakes will mostly be either annoying bio or sending the wrong message so the matches she gets aren't what she's aiming to get.
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I don't use online dating sites. I really don't need to. I also advise guys I know to do so either. I always tell them to put the phone down and go where the girls are. I don't have any direct evidence to support me, but I believe at least 50% of all females and at least 75% of all online profiles are catfished. One common thing I have heard that girls do is to use old photos OR photos of younger sisters or maybe cousins. I even heard one girl used her own daughter in one. I don't know about the algorithm behind the matchups and to be honest, I don't give a damn. Put your frickin phones down people and get out and meet people. I thought I was leaving for a trip to Europe today. Seems that I can't enter the country now because of Covid. So I most likely will be spending the holidays with an American Airlines Flight Attendant I date off and on. Do you know how I met her? Just sitting at a Gate at the Norfolk Airport back a few years ago. Just started talking about things. Exchanged phone numbers and several days later we were yanking each other's clothes off. NO! She is not married and is NOT looking for a husband.
Based on what I've heard from my male friends, they get like 0-3 matches a day and often don't get a reply when they send a message. My female friends say that they get 50-100 matches a day and received many messages. However I do personally know a female who got only 5 matches a day and didn't get any messages and when she messaged a guy, he blocked her. I also know a guy who got like 70 matches in 3 days and was able to meet some girls. Therefore, I think that Tinder is rigged for most guys but not all of them, while Tinder is only rigged for a minority of women.
Who would of rigged it? I think it is just human nature in action.
Online dating/hook ups is generally favored to women because men out number us by a lot, I don't now the numbers but it sure seems like a 50 to 1 ratio, but no real clue what it really is.
I can relate to what your saying though, put up a half ass profile and get tons of messages daily, too many to even keep up with. I don't even need pics to get messages.
It is unbalanced just cause either not enough women use it, or too many guys do, depending on your point of view.
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Guys really don't understand online dating and how to use the apps and probably never will unfortunately. Look in the comments. Tinder is a hook up app. Not true. Can you hook up on tinder sure but you can also find a relationship on there as well. Too much misinformation unfortunately that projects that online dating or Tinder etc is is rigged for guys.
Guys thought process is... if it doesn't work for me then it doesn't work for anyone and again just not true.All dating/hookup sites are rigged. None of them are really meant to work for men, they're set up to work for women. These site creators know this and a way to bring in more money is to try to trap guys into paying for premium upgrades with the promises that they'll land more matches, have a higher chance of getting messages, have their profile expanded to more users, etc.
They know there are guys who are desperate for success and will pay money for these promises that don't really work. They also try to keep men on a hook with all the fake profiles that instantly inbox them with a phone number or a direct request to meet and fuck.
So these sites are increasingly created to work for women instead because as long as there's a presence of women who are having success, that highly outnumber men with success, then it doesn't really matter if the guys don't have it, they're just being lured in with false hopes simply to provide population to these apps and sites, and to actually make themselves more and more available for the women.
Yes, I'm aware that there are plenty of guys who have and do have success with these platforms, but if it were really that regular of an occurrence you wouldn't have so many men saying how they don't get any matches or replies to messages. But also keep in mind that a lot of women like that guys are suffering with this because there's an element of control for them in the situation. They know a lot of men don't get replies, and they also like being the women who don't or won't reply to most men too. Thinking you're better than, too good, or more valuable to bother answering dudes can feel more satisfying for them than actually matching with one.For girls Tinder is a virtual paradise (For Now), because their egos are being stroked, they get all the attention they ever wanted, they feel empowered, they feel important and they feel needed by entire world.
For guys it is a pure nightmare (For Now), 90% of guys can't get anything and will never get anything, because they are below 7 mark ( 1 - 10 ).
But in the next 10 - 15 years things will change, Dramatically. Sexual Androids are coming. Sex dolls already here, but they still lack Artificial Intelligence and human movement. Once those 2 things will get perfected it is Game Over. Most men don't want children and most men don't even want marriage. Most men just want a girl that they can have sex with 24/7 and have conversations that they are into. There is an app calls (Replika) it is an Artificial friend and girlfriend or boyfriend and it is scary how good it is. It's not perfect, but scary enough to see where this computerized companionship is heading. Combine that with an Android and women are in big Big trouble, because as I said before most women want children, most men don't. Most women want to get married, most men don't and unlike most women who seek attention, most men don't care about those things.Guys don't understand online dating. They are told, even by the dating. company, that you can find exciting partners and dating from their platform.
What they don't tell you is that most of the people on their platform are men. So you have thousands of guys chasing so few women so the odds are bad. Women have way too many options.
Most men don't understand what women are looking for. They believe they wan the perfect boyfriend, and they try to mold that. Of come in looking for cheap and easy sex. The reality is that most young women want an exciting man, who has status and resources. Now women will say no, but don't listen to what they say. If a great looking guy shows up, and he looks hooked up, she will go crazy for him. And that is a certain look and feel, and most guys can't fake that.
Now as women age, and lose attention things change. Once she has some kids, has the mom bod, is showing wrinkles and aging, she has to be way more open to others.
So as most average guys, you have to ask yourself, do you really know where you stand in sexual value? A guy knows. He might think he is more, but deep down he knows the score. For average and ugly guys, you are not going to so well with online dating. You're wasting your time and money.
If you're not the hot guy, find hobbies and activities that can be done as a group and meet people and develop relationships and connections the old fashioned way.If I take into consideration how much money I've wasted on boosts, super likes, and my gold membership over the last two years... lol, I've done fairly well in terms of likes/matches, but I've never met anyone, or gone on any dates. Most conversations die after a few messages, and I know it's not just me, I have no problem talking to people in real life, and people seem to enjoy talking with me... But on Tinder, I get ghosted right away, quite frequently. Suppose it doesn't help that I'm also extremely picky, but even still, my experience is that I've gotten 0 dates, in the two years that I've been using it. Most guys get far fewer matches than me too, so the average experience for most men, is probably worse than mine.
Well, there are actually several reasons that it's unbalanced:
1.) The fact that there are far more men on Tinder, than women. 2.) Women rarely initiate any form of interaction, on Tinder, and are less likely to swipe right.
3.) Most women are aware of how easy it is to find matches on Tinder, and so they can afford to be extremely picky.
4.) Men know they're just another number, and so they have to use Tinder more desperately, and swipe right constantly, otherwise they have no hope of finding matches.
It's depressing, but, it is what it is, I guess. 🤷♂️Just for you to understand how rigged dating apps are...
Every dating app has stated in the user agreement, which nobody reads before accepting, under "user motiovation", that up to 65% of all profiles are worked and maintained as user motivation by the company itself... to get users to spend money... completely legal if stated in the agreement conditions
While a female profile gets the usual dating app ads, a male profile gets shoved scenes from porn... and it's not the softcover type I'm talking about
Plus, a lot of the smaller dating aps are a part of really big scam
Because, when you discover that mostly fake profiles are active there... which we learned are in possession of the company itself... you only can delete your profile,
But the user agreement states that they are keep the pics and all informations you gave them
Go via VPN into another country and load a local dating app from the same development company, voila, a fake profile with your pics and all informations you gave away before, made to "motivate" users to spend money... and they do that in every language you can imagine/got smartphones
And you can actual not do anything against since the people who made it would need to be on your country soil to get a possibility to get them to court... which most likely will never happen
And the poorest from my view are the people who thought a nude pic would get them closer to a date, while these nude pics now fly over the globe in dating apps to "motivate"
You can't even trust review sites, the development companies just pay other development companies to make them for them, fake review rating inclusive...
In my country the top ten dating sites are all like 95% of the users are fake, and the top 3 are actual stated in police warnings about love scams... in Austria, official a first world countryIt's not just tinder, it's how the whole dating game works.
The people with the highest "dating market" value are in fact men, not just any men but the ones in the top percentiles.
This is because the overwhelming majority of women want a guy who is: tall, handsome, fit, well dressed and with a well-paid job.
So if you are that, you are automatically an option for virtually any straight female.
If you are *not* that as a man, then you can expect little to no attention due to just how disproportionate the draw of these top men is.
But men's preferences run a much wider gamut in virtually every aspect, so the amount of attention women receive is much more balanced across the board.
And because of this discrepancy, the less successful men are forced to pursue more and more women in hopes of success, often humoring even those who are below their own dating market value.
And that's even before we factor women's strong tendency for hypergamy, which artificially narrows the potential options for women down to whatever she deems to be her social, academic or professional superiors.I´m an average looking guy I´m not that thin actually writing in bio that I´m not looking for a quick hookup and that I prefer to get to each other which could let a relationship if that´s consentual.
I post pics of myself and some pics I took from the nature where I live plus of a couple of dishes I cooked combined with a list of hobbies and my favourite Spotify playlist.
I managed 3 matches in a nearly a year with 7 other likes but I didn´t them back.
Only one of the matches resulted into a longer conversation but never reached into a time where we actually met.
I´d say Tinder is rigged because of the fact that females get so many likes they are probably suspicious of what we guys write in our bio. So I could literally write anything and no one would believe that.
But it´s not just tinder it´s every dating app. Being an average looking guy the platform has just one interest in me, they want my money anything else is not interesting.This is not a novelty, in any country, actually. The differences are even more alarming when you put race in the question. According to OKCupid their is a consistent beauty standard that women seek out on a man, which means that depending on your race it's going to be much harder for you, sometimes it's not even worth the effort.
When it comes to looks women are way more picker than man, and its just nature, if it wasn't like that, society wouldn't function properly. Just think about it, sperm is abundant, eggs are scarce so itThe whole online dating thing is rigged against men. If any woman wants proof, just make an account as a guy and see your matches drop. I'm not sure what the reasoning is exactly. A lot of guys swipe right on practically every girl (out of necessity) so women have a greater chance of getting a match for every right swipe they do. But I think there's more guys actively use dating apps than girls. I imagine most women's profiles are lying dormant so guys are swiping on profiles that aren't active. And preferences could come into play. A 26 yo guy might have an age range of 20-26 while most of the girls he's swiping right on have a range of 20-25. So he'd be invisible to the girls he's trying to match with.
Either way, I think we shouldn't be encouraging online dating and instead be encouraging interacting with people outside, in person, like we used to. Online dating just seems like a crutch for those who don't have the social skills to deal with strangers outside.I've never used tinder. I understand it's just for hookups and I have no interest in that. But if it's anything like other dating websites then yeah that sounds pretty typical.
This is why I advise guys to say as little as possible and to reveal as little as possible about themselves on their dating profile. Because most women just look at your profile picture and decide whether or not they want to know you. To lesser extent some women will read your profile and if they see ANYTHING they don't like they eliminate you from contention lol. Women are mostly about feelings. So it's best to be a mystery and let her write the story for you. Just make sure your pics are on point. If you're boring get out and mingle with people. A profile of nothing but selfish is a dead giveaway.
Yes women do have a distinct advantage. But a guy can neutralize that advantage a bit.Such is the story of life. Most women will reject most men that approach them. This ia due to biological evolution: the burden of pregnancy is much greater for a woman than a man. Women can only have so many children and she cannot raise them alone. A man can produce sperm from about the age of 12 until the day he days. Biologically there is not much burden for a man when it comes to a women's pregnancy. Out of necessity women have evolved to be picky and so most men will get rejected most of the time -even good looking guys with money will have a high rejection rate although not as high as the average guy.
Yes it's the total opposite for most guys. And I believe it's for a couple reasons, 1) there's like A LOT more guys on them than women. And there are SO many fake profiles of women, or guys pretending to be them. 2) guys do the messaging, especially the first message (it's even "expected" by some, which to me is ridiculous). If women messaged more (and they are also more "selective" compared to guys), this could be different, but doubt it will ever change. Women like to think it's "desperate" vs courage or confidence. My opinion, they just want the guy to do all the work so they don't "risk" anything.
Guys outnumber the girls probably 10 to 1, if not more.
Just by probability alone, matching on tinder for a dude is like running into a shiny pokemon, then they still have to catch the damn thing without killing it. Then at the end of the day, they're still like "man, I didn't even want this fucking Weedle, it was just shiny. Now what?"That's been true in my experience. Very few matches. Not that I am the most desirable guy in the world...
I think it comes down to the fact that women are more in demand and can be choosey. Women have always had the upper hand when it comes to sex and attraction. Generally speaking, women are able to (and often do) "date up". That is women can get men that are better looking, wealthier, and more established. Only top tier men can be choosey. Hookup culture has changed that somewhat, but women still have more choices about who they bed or develop a relationship with.Mostly because of four reasons.
Men are more active on finding a woman, for whatever purpose. And see more good looking single women in the app than anywhere else.
Men don't have makeup and most don't use any kind of filters and have not gotten good with doing selfies. So for most women, most guys look like poop, so not much attraction.
Women are more into different social media, thus see a lot more "fabricated" success and developed a higher expectations because of it. Guys also have it a bit higher because of social medias, although, women do tend to wear makeup and apply filters for tinder photos, so not much of a difference in this regars.
And in general, women is considered a prize. So the ruling mentality is already against men by most women. In terms of who should impress who.It is. The different studies show it. We know that most women aim at 15% of the men, the top tier, and leave the rest behind. They all consider they deserve nothing but the best, and therefore disregard anyone who isn't the ideal match.
As for me, I'm already not good looking, which disqualify me completely for 90% of the women there. I barely had 4 matches in 4 years. 2 who were spam bots, 1 never replied, and it didn't work out with the last one.
I'm still on it, because I'm a fucking idiot with hope, but, it doesn't work. Same with the other apps.Tinder is pretty rigged for guys. So many fake profiles asking for your money. I matched with three fakes. Matched with a girl who just wanted money to fix her car. She just sucked to talk to and boring anyways. Matched with two real people. The first was nice and we chatted on Facebook then found someone else shortly after and that relationship of her’s didn’t last a year. We just stayed friends. The second I actually went on a coffee date on. She was really awesome, but a month later I guess she found someone better who she’s still with. I’m happy for her and she’s doing well it seems. Now I’m in a relationship and it’s going perfect. I didn’t meet her on tinder though. But screw that app.
Tinder for women...
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Tinder for men...
I mean come on, is this really a surprise to you? This is the reality for men in their teens and 20s throughout dating. That all changes around age 30 though.“This really shocked me because match ups for me and most of my female friends are in the dozens without trying.”
So this “shocked” you? smdh. If you take a semi attractive guy and semi attractive girl and put together similar profile the guy will get maybe (at best) 10 to 20 matches every 100 swipes. The girl will get at least half of the guys matching.
I can get how women have to be careful matching guys online. But this is indicative of a much bigger issue. Dating in general is MUCH harder for men than it is for women. Unless we are in the top 1% it is a struggle for most of us.
I am just surprised (and a bit depressed tbh) that at age 30 you still don’t recognize this. Did you believe all this time that dating is the same way for guys as it is for girls?
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