Why do guys complain about friendzoning, when they literally f*ckzone women which is worse? Have you ever f*ckzone a woman?

[Anonymous]

I think this is male privilige. I wish guys friendzone women rather than fuckzone them. I have watched a youtube video where the guy said that women are most likely is serious with a guy, if she has sex with him, but guys are not and fuckzone women which confuse women.
Guys dont understand that many women want serious relationship, and not just sex. They say it is female privilige to get men so easy but they forget that most of the guys you can get easy are easy manhoes. I think easy girl or shit would not exist if all guys only have sex with women they are serious with and also women would not have many options when it comes dating. Then you also would not complain about women having many options

Yes, i have fuckzoned women

No, i have not ever fuckzoned women

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+1 y

I dont generalize any man of course. I dont know the whole male population. So i just say guys and Not all or Not many guys. Since i dont know how much percent of guys do that. Do i always have to say "some"? I often say "some" but then get stupid replies. I thought it is obvious that i dont generalize men.

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+1 y

I did not mean to offend any man here. If this question is sexist towards men, then explain to me. If you think i am generalizing men and this is why it is sexist, then you dont get it. As i said in the previous update i dont generalize men and whenever i say "some men/women" i get stupid replies. I thought it was obvious that i dont mean to generalize men. I am sorry for offending anyone

[oldasIfeel22]

Here are some key differences between the “fuckzone” vs. the friendzone:

1. Fuckzone requires the girl to have sex with the guy. That is a decision SHE made. It’s a very tangible and a direct act. The friendzone on the other hand is NOT a direct act but lack thereof. The friendzone is usually unspoken and the girl conveniently plays dumb to exploit the guy for her own ends.

2. Sex is supposed to be a mutually enjoyable experience. Other than contraceptives it doesn’t cost anything. Also with “women’s rights” a female should just be able to enjoy the act the same way a man would with no other expectations, right?

The friendzone on the other hand is 100% one way benefit to the girl (sometimes vice versa) to the complete expense of the guy. She gets to enjoy attention, money, favors, ego boost, etc. The guy gets to “enjoy” a complete waste of effort, time, self respect, reputation, etc. Women don’t respect men that they (unannounced) friendzone.

3. Fuckzone is usually over quick while the friendzone usually drags on for weeks, months or even longer. The girl will string the guy along until one day he has had enough. But with the fuckzone it’s usually over quick after the guy got what he wanted.

4. Friendzone has much longer term damage to a mans ego vs. the fuckzone. Yes I know you girls can feel like shit that you were seduced, lied to, etc just to be used like a whore. But usually it’s a hard yet quick lesson learned. The friendzone on the other hand severely damaged the mans self esteem because the girl didn’t respect him enough to be honest early about where she stood. His reputation will suffer too because other men/women will see him as weak enough to let her get away with it. He will be less hesitant to treat future girls “nice” because he doesn’t trust them.

Anyway in my very bias opinion the friendzone is worse. Way worse.

[Asker]

I think we can differe between guys who tell the girls thst they only want sex and guys who use girls and take advantage of the feelings of the girl

[Asker]

So getting used by a guy who did not tell his honest intentions in the first place is worse

[Asker]

You are basically a player when you play with her feelings and lie about your intentions

[oldasIfeel22]

If have never in my life lied to a girl to get laid. Ever. I have been tight lipped about wanting a hook up and nothing more. But still I have never pulled that crap. However I’ve seen other guys pull this bullshit (even a married one once and it was disgusting).

I could of gotten laid a lot more when I was younger (including some very attractive girls) if I decided to be manipulative. But I never pulled that crap. Ever.

However I’ve been long term friendzoned at least 4 or 5 times in my life and it was absolutely horrible. It wasn’t the lack of sex/intimacy that hurt the most it was the fact she didn’t RESPECT me to tell the truth about where I stood.

However when a woman gets fuckzoned she is usually considered a “victim” by society. She had plenty of shoulders to cry on. Some POS women even go as far as false rape accusations to get back at the guy. Our society is promoting that crap more and more.

On the other hand feminists are telling guys “the friendzone doesn’t exist” and “if you are in the friendzone you put yourself there”. Bullshit. Seriously.

At the end do the day if a guy gets screwed over in the friendzone he is looked at as sucker/chump. Some kind souls will feel sorry for him but he learns a brutally hard lesson that he and only he has to avoid that crap.

They are not apples to apples.

[Asker]

You still dont get used like fucking sex toy. I am not talking about guys who take advantage of her feelings and why are you friends with women when you are going to fell in love with them. You also dont fall in love with guy friends. So i have the feelings guys seek for girls that they are attractive to then rather than friendship material. Anyway i dont believe in friendship in men and women. It is nice to hear that you dont slut shame women and think they also should enjoy sex. So thank you

[Asker]

I am talking about guys who take advantage of her feelings *****

[Asker]

I have no problem with guys who are honest with their intentions. You seem like a good guy since you dont take advantage of girl's feeling

[oldasIfeel22]

Yes my entire life I have been labeled the “nice guy” and 80 to 90 percent of the time women have exploited that (there is a rare 10 to 20 percent who genuinely find that PHYSICALLY attractive.).

I agree slut shaming is wrong. But the ugly truth is missed out on several dating/sexual opportunities in my youth because I wasn’t manipulative. This included missing out on the hottest girl I have ever met in my life back in college. She expertly friendzoned me back then.

Here is the bottom line:

- BOTH men snd women need to communicate what they want and accept we may not get the answer we want. If a guy just wants sex and does NOT get laid because he was honest (sadly manipulation does often work) then he can walk away knowing he did the right thing. This is even MORE important with women. The moment you decide you don’t want to date the guy and only see him as a “friend” then fucking speak up! Don’t play games just because you like the attention, money, validation, etc. ACCEPT that he will likely walk. But at least you showed that you respected him by not dragging all the bs out for your own ends.

[Asker]

Do you live in america? Sex-education is not a thing in america and america is not open minded when it comes to sex which is why both men and women dont know how to communicate when it comes to sex. Your situation kinda remember me my home country where guys kinda expected to be very dominant and expect to not expect a rejection very easy by girls to the point girls say no despite being interested in guys and expect guys to chase them. If a girl show an interest in a guy and speak to him, he may be seen as easy. Kinda stone age mentality in my opinion. In western country where I live women are open minded to have one nights aka they are very open minded when it comes to sex. I knew an ugly awkward guy who get girls thanks to an austrian dating app for sexual activity Lol. Is sex really important for you? Why dont you have sex with a girl you like? I never understand point of one night stands.

[Asker]

If 20 percent of guys you talk have only sex with girls they really like, many girls would not false hope aka options. So if every man only have sex with girls they like and did not have ONS or did not manipulate girl, many girls would have sex with nice guys. Also being nice is not enough for relationship. People care for looks too. Do you care about your looks?

[Asker]

I agree with the last Paragraph of you. Nobody should play with someone's emotions

[oldasIfeel22]

Yes I live in America and I have traveled abroad. Overall I can say dating REALLY sucks here for men. We are confused, constantly bombarded with mixed messages and dealing with increasingly selfish and miserable women thanks to feminism.

Anyway I’m at the age I want a relationship or at least a consistent friends with benefits. Yes I’m a man but that doesn’t mean I’m content with random sex with multiple women. I don’t have the capacity to do that anymore anyway but even when I did I never felt great about it.

Bottom line is I am STILL seeing grown ass woman in their 30s who are confident that guys are okay with friendzone. I sure as hell no better nowadays about the “fuckzone” makes women feel. I have had direct conversation with the last few women I hooked up with. We both knew where each other stood.

Anyway at 22 you are going to see lots of horny as assholes who are like this. But you are also going to run into lots of young nice guys too.

So the right thing and speak up to the guy you only see as a friend the moment you have made that decision. Tell him you are being honest out of respect. No matter how he reacts you can rest assured you did the right thing. Just like I rest assured I did the right thing when I was honest about not wanting a relationship (early).

[oldasIfeel22]

By the way THANK YOU for saying “anyway i dont believe in friendship in men and women”. Men and women can only be true friends when neither of them are attracted to each other. That rarely happens.

Also men do NOT seek out women to be platonic “friends” with. Because no offense to you but women have generally have very little offer men when it comed friendships.

Anyway that’s not to say men and women can’t be friendly. They absolutely can and should be.

Also I do have one long term galpal of 12 years. I have never looked at her seriously with sex on my mind. She had never taken advantage of me.

[HugoThe2nd]

If a woman agrees to having sex without commitment, then whatever happens afterwards is entirely her fault.
The conditions were agreed on as being "none", the fact that she has "assumptions" or "hopes" of there ever being anything more, well that is not the man's fault.

If commitment is what you want from a man, then do not, EVER have sex with him before you get commitment out of him.
Who would willingly accept more limitations being introduced, after you have already given them everything without those limitations?

Nobody, that's who.

[Asker]

What do you mean. When you fuckzone a girl then you know she has feelings for you but you still use her for sex. This is similar to friendzoning

[Asker]

It is not bad when a guy told her in the first place that he only wants sex of course. But some guys use date a way to have easy sex

[Asker]

"Who would willingly accept more limitations being introduced, after you have already given them everything without those limitations?

Nobody, that's who." Does this apply to men too, or only to women? Why is having sex automatically giving everyone. Should not you wait till marriage then?

[HugoThe2nd]

I do not "use" anyone for sex.
I wish to have sex with people who wish to have sex with me- both of us having the same intentions.
I'm always honest about my intentions and the nature of my interest in them.

And yet, I've still had a few women accuse me of "using them", even though I made it clear what my intentions and expectations were right from the beginning.

Way too many women use sex as a bargaining chip, they lie to men about their own intentions and then they fume about not being given something they were never promised in the first place.

[Asker]

Really? You really told the women very clear what your intentions are, and they dont misunderstand you in any way?

[Asker]

I think some women are naive and blind and think that the guy will like them back if they have sex with them

[HugoThe2nd]

Yes, I tell everyone that I'm not looking for anything serious.
Not only that, I'm also open about having a certain body count as well as about the fact that I've never really loved anyone in the past and that, if we are ever to become monogamous, my commitment to them will only ever be perceived by me as the cost of being able to be sexual with them.

In other words, I'm entirely straightforward about there being no romantic feelings or emotional attachment on my side of things, not presently or at any point in the future.

One would think that this would be enough to discourage any love seekers from trying to pursue me but, apparently, it doesn't.
I've even been lead on by women who claimed they were fine with this, only for them to change their mind 2~3 months later.

[Asker]

Oh ok it is good you are very honest

[GingerCatLover]

It is hardly the guys' fault a woman is willing to have sex early rather than develop a rapport & an actual relationship. Comes down to the three Ss. Standards. Self-respect. Self-esteem. Many younger women don't have such & then bitch when they get dumped, can't land a good guy, etc.

I have standards. I also have self-respect & esteem. I am not picky. All I want is a decent respectable guy. But I'd much rather cut off my arm & both legs than have sex with someone far too early.

[Asker]

It is always the woman's fault. Why tf you date then, if you are going to leave her but also complain sge is pick and have many options. Do you also think like that about men? Can men be easy too for you? Or only women?

[Asker]

So the guy is not easy for having sex early but when a girl does the same she has no selfrespect?

[GingerCatLover]

@hi_it_is_me123 - ROFL. Of course, men are easy having sex early. Have you never heard of players & fuckboys? That's the male version of sluts & hoes.

[GingerCatLover]

@hi_it_is_me123 > It is always the woman's fault. < And yes it is. Nobody's saying a woman has to have sex early. She's just desperate & does.

[Asker]

Lol tf. Fboys/players are romantisized and is not even seen bad. Players play with people's feelings to get sex aka use manipulative tactics and hurt/use people while so called sluts are promiscuos women and they dont hurt anyone or lie anyone. There is a fucking huge difference. Nobody call men a whore for being easy/promiscuos. I have no problem with promiscuos men who are honest with their intentions but so called players are not honest with their intentions and they used to lie. I only would slut shame cheaters, players and women who use men for money. All these people use people for their own selfish mind. Have you ever seen a woman who play with men for sex?

[Asker]

The best solution would be waiting till marriage because at this point no man will marry you to use you for sex. Even if you make guys wait, these guy may have sex with other sex while he dates you and leave you despite waiting. I mean you really have to know the guy very good by waiting few years without waiting til marriage. No guy who does not wait till marriage would wait for you for few years.

[GingerCatLover]

@hi_it_is_me123 - ROFL. No decent woman wants a player or a fuckboy. Cheap women sure... It's why players & fuckboys don't really pursue decent women with standards & self-esteem/respect because there are dozens upon dozens of cheaper and thus easier choices.

[Asker]

The problem is players/fboys are romantisized in western media which encouraged young women to date these so called badboys. Have you ever seen a female teenage movie where the main male lead is virgin/nice/nerd/innocent?

[Asker]

To many young western women are naive.

[Asker]

Virgin men are literally seen bad in western world

[GingerCatLover]

@hi_it_is_me123 - I don't really care for pathetic things like movies and what not. I judge for myself. Many younger women and men are just desperate for attention and that's why they emulate "celebrities" that really, when you look at it, don't contribute much to society compared to say scientists.

[Asker]

It is also cultural thing. It is not just movies. Western culture literally hate virgin men in my experience while promiscuos men are seen as good. I hardly see anyone shaming promiscuos men

[GingerCatLover]

@hi_it_is_me123 - PROMICISIOUS MEN ARE NOT SEEN AS GOOD. DECENT WOMEN ***DO NOT*** WANT PROMISCUOUS MEN. CHEAP WHORES DON'T CARE.

[Asker]

Ok wtf dont scream. Chill your eggs. Thanks for the reply

[Asker]

Anyway

[Asker]

I agree with you anyway Can you also call so called players/fboys man whores or whatever. Because fboy is not an insult, it is seen as compliment

[GingerCatLover]

@hi_it_is_me123 - fuckboy is an insult you dimwit. Decent women, again, don't want anything to do with players and fuckboys. Dim easy women - aka the alternative to fuckboys or whores - do.

[Asker]

You are the dimwit, you bitch. Nobody use fboy as an insult, you retard. People will laugh at you if you call a promiscuos a fboy.

[Asker]

You are too stupid to understand the difference between a fboy/player and a manhoe

[Ez-Bri-Z]

It's kind of a no win in some cases, isn't it? If a woman chooses to not sleep with a guy then she is a b*tch for friendzoning him and if she does sleep with him they consider her a low value female and a whore.

Quite the double standard indeed.

[Hawner]

Personally, I would have a lot of respect for her if she chooses not to sleep with the guy.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

And that's fine, personally I am fine with her either way cause it's her body and choice.

[Shihab91]

because some women lower their standards for men

[Hawner]

@Ez-Bri-Z Of she chooses to sleep with him because she wants to, that is of course her decision and I respect it just as much as the other; if she does it to avoid being considered "a bitch", as you said, then that is bad (in my opinion).
That is what I meant. If course she can do whatever she wants, she has the right to it, but she should do it for the right reasons.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Fully agree. It would be super awesome possum if that pressure didn't exist though at all. 😊

[Shihab91]

if you are strong you won't submit to such a pressure

[Hawner]

@ Ez-Bri-Z Indeed. There are enough real pressures in life to add some stupid ones.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

@Shihab91 its not do much whether a woman is strong enough, it's just that the pressure shouldn't exist at all

[Shihab91]

I think they should just refuse sleeping if he left then he isn't the right one

[Kaneki05]

I think the term of friendzone is often used wrong. Friendzone should refer to when a person has led you on in someway. Not just simply been friends then one started to get feelings and ended up disappointed the other didn't feel the same way.
So two people having sex both consent to it just been sex nothing more, then if that other person catches feelings that's on them.
If a person leads somebody on it's wrong either way.

Which i am sure women and men do. But also i am sure many women and men also use friendzone term wrongly. Also women complain about been friendzoned all the time so complaining about been friendzoned isn't a gender bias thing both complain about it.

[bamesjond0069]

Yeah but i dont mislead women. If i want to date a girl i say right away you're relationship material be my girlfriend. If not i will refuse to have any meaningful conversation about it. A girl asked what i thought about marriage because she wanted to be married and i said "i am not the marrying kind. Im not about that bullshit." Then she keeps coming over and fucking me once or twice a week for months while she knows im fucking other women. Then she's mad at me i won't take the relationship to the next level. Wtf? y'all girls are fucking messes.

[Asker]

Oh ok this is good that you are honest with your intentions and dont mislead anyone

[bamesjond0069]

Sometimes I don't know though. She might seem like relationship material but then she fucks me or tells me she fucked 20 dudes or some bullshit and now i thought there was potential and then there is not. Its not my fault we had sex nor am i complaining about the sex. If a girl has sex and regrets it, shouldn't she maybe be more careful before having sex? Seems like the girls problem not mine.

[Asker]

Then dont have sex without knowing the girl. I dont understand you now. So you do mislead the girl. You should know her better and if you know she is promiscuos, then tell them you dont see them as relationship material. Women usually have sex with men who them see a relationship material which i dont understand

[Asker]

I think both are to blame

[Asker]

Did she lie to you about her past?

[bamesjond0069]

No but when you first meet someone you dont say "hi my name is bames, how many people have you had sex with and are you looking for a relationship or casual sex?" Lmfao

[Asker]

Lmfao

[Asker]

Is that not how dating work? I am sorry i never date. We have arrange marriage and your parents search the person. I seriously would ask a man everything on the first date

[bamesjond0069]

Oh yeah i would ideally do that but no girl is going to talk to you like that. Girls are both really shy and also really confident but both in the wrong ways. Like girls are scared to even talk to guys half the time but if she doesn't like your tshirt she will also be forward enough to say i hate your tshirt you're ugly dont talk to me again. So there's a fine balance of not making them too uncomfortable. But they mostly are very comfortable having casual sex and thats the problem. Its easier to get most girls naked than it is to get them to answer serious questions. And that is why i might fuck a girl but if she has that attitude i won't date her.

Why are you so concerned with this topic if you have an arranged marriage?

[Ripper_E]

There is a very big difference between a woman rejecting you and hurting you for whatever the reason and a woman having poor judgment in men and making poor decisions.
But go ahead, please explain how a guy having sex with you, which you chose to do, is worse than you rejecting a guy.

[Asker]

He is using for sex?

[Asker]

It happens often when you have date with them but they leave you as soon as you give sex to them

[Asker]

At least you dont get treated like a fucking sextoy.

[Asker]

I am not talking about one night stands

[Ripper_E]

Then don't have sex with him. No one is forcing you. You clearly wanted the same thing, otherwise, you wouldn't have done it. Like I said, poor judgment.

[Asker]

That is same logic when a chear on you and you get blamed for since you should not have dated her. Then dont get cheated on

[Asker]

Then dont get used by golddiggers

[Ripper_E]

False equivalence. You are comparing betrayal to you having higher expectations of a man who who has made no commitment to you.

[Asker]

It is the same shit. Dont get used by golddiggers then bye

[Asker]

You get manipulated and get played and you blame the girl.

[Asker]

By your logic you would not be betrayed if you had higher expectations of a woman

[Ripper_E]

Says what? Where did I say that? If a man is being manipulated by a gold digger, I'd say the same thing I'm telling you.

[Asker]

I am talking about guys whose intentions were not clear in the very beginning. It is not like they told you that they only want sex

[Ripper_E]

So you decide to have sex with them before their intentions are clear to you?

[Asker]

Look i dont care about normal guys with honest intentions but some guys just lie to you and make false promises. The only way to know the a guy very good by waiting many years and no guy would do that except he wait till marriage

[Asker]

I know girls who wait like half a year and get left after sex or girls who did not wait but are married now. You can never knew without waiting till marriage since no guy will use a girl for sex after marriage and leave her lol

[Jamie05rhs]

All of your points are valid.

However, you're missing one key factor. If women didn't give up sex so easily, this wouldn't happen to them as much. Women are the ones who allow themselves to be f*ckzoned. Because they're gullible and they believe in a naive worldview.

[CallmeTheKnight]

F Zone is something I'm new to hearing. I heard of rotation, but nobody gets in those positions unless they put themselves there first. A man that's friendly and not flirty or building sexual tension deserves to be in the friend zone. Women who happen to be in this F-Zone you speak are open to just that in the beginning. at least when you're in a rotation you're getting more action than someone in the friend zone and it's a fair exchange. You get sausage and he gets meow

[InferiorElegy]

The fuckzone doesn't exist, that's just poor choice making on the female. All genders can use anyone as a sexual objects, only it's female Consent that matters when it comes to sex, so if any female thinks they are being "fuckzoned" they are doing it to themselves.

[Asker]

What about guys who take advantage of her feelings and make false promises to get sex? So being player is ok? This is like it is your fault to get cheated on, so you chose to stay witz this girl in a relationship

[InferiorElegy]

Those guys are shit but it's still ultimately the females choice to have sex with them.

[Hawner]

Both friendzoning and fuckzoning are bad, so I have done no-one of them. Not that I ever had the chance, tbh, but I would never do it.

[Anonymous]

I don't want a relationship with someone who have had sex with someone not me. But I can sleep with her if she is hot enough. So I guess I have fuckzoned girls. But no, its not worse than being friendzoned. Friendzoned is way worse. I can be friends with ugly chicks as long as they are not feminists, but how do you think it is to be friends with a hot girl who don't want sleep with you when you want to sleep with her? Thats unfair

[Asker]

You are not used as a dildo aka as an object. You also can avoid friendzoning by breaking the friendship

[Asker]

When you are fuckzoned there is no return

[Opinion Owner]

You can stop being fuckzoned by stop hooking up with the guy.

[Asker]

Therecis now ti know without waiting till marriage

[Asker]

There is no way to know that without waiting till marriage *** by your logic you should stay incelibate. You dont just hook up. This guy play with your feelings to get sex. You dont have a date to have a hook up

[Asker]

So you want virgin but yourself ain't virgin?

[Opinion Owner]

That sounds right. I'm ok with me not being a virgin, but I don't want to date a girl who is not a virgin. I can still fuck the thot, but she should not expect a relationship.

[Asker]

So you are not a thot?

[Asker]

Are you at least honest with your disgusting intentions? Do you tell the non virgin Girls that you are hypocritical thot? I swear only beta cucks would want to date you.

[Asker]

What is your race? Usually Western men ain't obsessed with women's virginity

[Opinion Owner]

I am male, so nope, not a thot. Am I honest? Yes. I do tell them I'm not interested in dating non-virgins but I'm willing to sleep with them if they are hot. I have no reason to lie about that. And I'm no more hypocrite than a feminist reeing about equality and at the same time fight against people who want to give men the same rights as women regarding abortions. Men and women are different and have different needs I don't date cucks and I don't cuck other people. I do not knowingly sleep with a chick already in a relationship. I'm white, male. My family is from northern Europe. Western men should care more about womens virginity.

[Asker]

You are whore. No selfrespecting woman would want another woman's trash aka used up dildo. What has thatto do with abortion? You dont give birth anyway?

[Asker]

Which Country bulgaria? :)

[Asker]

Not all european countries are very developed

[Asker]

Ohh okkk Northern Europe? If you born/live in america, i see not much difference with americans and people from third world countries or second world countries. Where you are from aka your race is irrelevant, if youhave the mentality of stone age people

[Opinion Owner]

So you admit to thinking guys who has slept with multiple girls are whores. If so, then yes I would be that in your opinion.
It has nothing to with abortion other than showing that men and women are different and if you think I'm a hypocrite then you should think those feminists are too. I could drag this argument further, but lets get back on topic. Equality and all that, unless of course you think I'm not a hypocrite just because I don't consider myself a thot too. And if you think men are used up dildos, just don't sleep with them. Sleep with those you deem good enough. No need to be rude, I'm just answering your questions.

In short, yes I would not date girls who have had sex with other guys. But I could sleep with them if they are sexy. Men and women are different, so I'm ok with having slept with multiple girls myself. And personaly I don't see myself has a whore. I'm white. Anything else you want to know?

[Opinion Owner]

I'm from Norway.

[Asker]

Wtf has that to do with feminism? I dont deny that hypocritical feminazis who hate men exist too. I hate them too. That is not the fucking topic. What has virginity with being different to do anyway. Even religions expect from BOTH men and women to be virgin. A promiscuos guy is more likely to cheat according to statistics. At least you tell the girl your honest intentions and dont lie to them. You are right. It is your life as long as you dont hurt anyone but i can't stop thinking it is hypocritical and any girl who sleep with you despite your hypocrisy is stupid too. No selfrespecting woman should date hypocritical guys like you. I dont know you sound like muslim guys who take the virginity of some naive muslim girls and sleep around but at least non virgin western girls dont get killed, disowned, made to make an virginity surgery, etc. while guys dont have to which is why i hate these hypocritical men and women who marry them. They are the reason why muslim girls in my experience have to face such hard consequences like being disowned/killed/suicide/pressured to lie while the fucking guy dont. So maybe this is why i am reacting like this. Anyway i insult/slutshame you the way you insult the girls you sleep with

[MrCommodore]

I did when I was 21 or so, but not in a nasty or intentional way. Like hooked up with a few girls at different times, and didn't see them as girlfriend material

[LogicBomber]

A girl has the choice not to be a fuck puppet... men don’t get to choice being in the friendzone... women also make that choice for us.

[Asker]

I am talking about guys who play with Girls feelings to get sex

[LogicBomber]

You still make the choices.
The guys who are just looking for pussy are known to the girls almost every time but the girl goes into it thinking she will magically be the girl to make him settle. That is on you.
If a guy plays you once and you go back for more, that is also on you.

[Asker]

Men also have the choice to not be a fuck puppet. I think it is asshole move to play with someone's feelings for sex

[LogicBomber]

The question isn’t about men being a fuck puppet. The question was comparing a friendzone to a girl being stupid enough to allow herself to be used for sex.

A friendzoned male is used emotionally by women and have no choice in being “only friends”. a girl who is used for sex, has the choice of putting out and should see the red flags long before she puts out.

[Asker]

Are you stupid? So you blame women that men getting friendzoned but also dont blame men who take advantage of her feelings and played with her to get sex. It is not like she knew that he only wants sex. Nobody force men to be friends with women and usually men seek for attractive female "friend" . they also can avoid friendship to not get friendzoned. It isway better than to get used a fucking sextoy

[Asker]

The best way to avoid fuckzoning is waiting till marriage but few western men would do that.

[Asker]

I mean if you know he is fboy, you should be smart of course. Ihave seen guys who play the innocence and even tell they are virgins. Have you ever fuckzone women?

[LogicBomber]

No... Men NEVER have women in their lives outside of family that they are not sexually interested in. So if a female has a male “friend”... she knows he wants sex and she makes the choice whether it happens or not.

Also, since you pick and choose when sex happens and when it doesn’t YOU are responsible for that act and if you want to see if a guy isn’t using you just for sex... hold out, keep your legs closed, and see if he sticks around.
A guy only interest in sex will not date you without sex. So you are calling the shots in both situations.

[Asker]

What if he fuck around while he dates you without you knowing it and you wait for nothing? The best way to know itis waiting till marriage but no western guy wait till marriage

[Asker]

Do you slutshame women when they have sex on the first date

[LogicBomber]

No but I wouldn’t keep her around long term.

[TallAnon]

Because friendzoning makes it so they can't fuckzone. Them complaining about friendzoning doesn't equal them wanting a relationship.
We're worse than you think 🙂

[Asker]

Ok thank you for warning lol

[Aurora1010]

Guys who complain about getting friendzoned are annoying lol

[AydenHazor]

Friend zone is bullshit. Being a friend with a woman is an honor and if a dude is pretending to be a friend to try to get in her pants he's a total ass.

[pokerbot]

There's no male privilege. If you're in the fuckzone it's because you put yourself there. If you don't want to be fuckzoned don't put out.

[Asker]

By your logic it is fucking fault if you get cheated on

[Asker]

Since when it is ok to play with someone's feelings and getting taken advantaged

[pokerbot]

Men have to deal with that s*** too.

[kevyhanma]

That’s bull women don’t wanna be friendzoned either almost every female I tred being just friends with wanted to fuck at some point and it ruined the friendship

[TheSpaceGnome]

slutty women who fuckzone are more common than men who do.

[deeks1121]

I don't aim to fuckzone but it happens, you get all serious then they lose interest and it makes you feel like you've wasted your time

[_no_one_]

Those are two different breeds, guys who fuckzone rarely get frindzoned and vice versa ig.

[Joshua0213]

Nah never done that, not something that turns me on to have sex with someone I'm not attached to emotionally

[Anonymous]

Because why the fuck would any guy want to be friends with a woman they're attracted to but can't date? If you want to make male friends so bad then find guys who find you unattractive. They'll be your friend since getting rejected isn't an issue.