Guys, Do you think girls are only interested in dating guys if they have lots of money or a ripped body?

[Anonymous]

Yes

No

[Knighted2170]

Nope. If that were true then I wouldn't have women regularly coming up to me starting conversations, flirting, and asking me out.

I'm not tall. I'm fit, but not muscular or ripped. I don't have a lot of cash. What I have is an authentic personality and can speak on a multitude of subjects in-depth. I recognize her intelligence and personality over her looks while listening and asking intriguing questions. In other words, I treat her as an equal.

I also don't rush into anything. I take things slow while being upfront and honest about what I'm looking for. That gains me a lot of respect right off the bat. I also stick to the flirting styles I know I'm good at. When she starts flirting, I flirt right back in a witty way that gets a smile and a coy look thrown back at me.

All I do is take care of myself. I dress nice, smile, and make myself approachable. I have fun and laugh while caring less about what other people think. That attracts women who like people such as myself. They want to get to know me and what I'm about. They don't care that I don't have a lot of money, I'm not 6 feet tall, or not ripped. They care more that I have my life together and I'm not going to play them.

[Anonymous]

I don't think every woman uses this to determine whether or not they'll date someone, but I do think that a large amount do; and I don't think there is a problem with that.

Why should a woman (or a man) date someone that they aren't attracted to? How will they enjoy sex that way? Dating has a purpose; which is to either find a partner you're attracted to or a partner that can support you in terms of survival (which means financial stability in the modern world), or to find a partner to have children with, or all three of these. Simply dating someone for the sake of it is irrational when none of these benefits are present. If you want to be with someone, without any of these benefits, you can be friends (and you can be the closest friends in the world if you wish) so there is no need to masquerade as a couple.

People seem to think that they deserve to have people interested in them for some reason that I do not understand (assuing they have a reason for this belief). If it was true that a person (let's call him Apple) deserved to have someone that was interested him, then that would mean that at any given moment in time there is someone obligated to be interested in Apple regardless of whether or not Apple is ripped or obese or financially stable or a drug addict. This is clearly not a reasonable belief because a lot of people want what is beneficial to them.

[LightEnd]

There is no yes or no answer to this question.

Men and women have different values. I am divorced twice and I pay a lot child support. I make decent money but after taxes and child support I can just barely take care of necessities.

I have a young beautiful companion and have been in an excellent relationship for the past year and a half. The only reason she is happy is because she values certain things way above money and I happen to check those boxes.

She is mentoring under someone and trying to find a decent paying job so she can help out our financial situation.

A lot of women wouldn't consider dating me with that financial burden. (as many divorced dad's can attest)

I think everyone has the right to value whatever they choose to.

There's nothing wrong with women valuing money just like there's nothing wrong with men valueing low body counts, youth and beauty.

[backblueblack22]

Money, looks, status, etc. All of those are head starts. Some of them are huge head starts. But head starts nonetheless.

You have to be at least a 5 out 10 in the girls eyes to at least have a chance. Also helps if you make more than minimum wage. But the most successful guys know how to emotionally leverage and manipulate girls. They are funny, but also arrogant, assholes at times but also time tiny hints of sensitivity and overall they are mysterious and a challenge. They don’t give away what’s on their mind and that drives most women nuts restaurants they admit or not. They aren’t dumping when they are chasing.

But very few men are born with that ability above. Most of us have to learn the hard way.

[djmzes]

Simple
Mature one = no
Immature = yes

Choice is yours to allow which type to enter or not

[TommyMountainFigure]

That is a really tough one to answer for me because I am ripped and I have money. The only thing I can use perhaps to provide a different perspective is when I was at school and I had no money, no muscle tone and I was beaten up on a bi daily basis and I still had girls around me, only I think that was probably out of pity.

[jackderby_01]

I think women are attracted to confident, driven and responsible men. And from personal experience I can say working out increases my confidence and focus. Definitely no girl likes a simp or an incel who will walk heads over heels even if it might affect their own values or someone who hates women for no reason.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Ripped body they get intimidated by, mostly (unless they are super hot but those are usually either the really dumb girls or they still don't like a man looking that good).
Money, they all fall for (but they want far too much of it - it is exceptionally difficult to earn it yet a huge number of women think that if you have it it grows in your backyard and you just pick it)

[Inexpensivefurniture]

I'm sure there are shallow women out there with those kinds of standards, but they are not nearly as common as some men seem to think they are. I have a feeling this whole "women won't like you if you aren't rich/tall/hot/hung" idea was started by guys who had shitty personalities or no social skills. When they were rejected by women, they decided it must be because women are shallow, and not because they had any personal flaws to work on.

[Anonymous]

Looks, Money, Status, Game are just tools. Helpful boosters you should try max out but they can easily become your self-limiting crutches.
Your ability to change her feelings ARE ALL THAT MATTER. FEELS are the goal. Feels are the key. All flirting is is playfully taking and giving positive emotions. A playful dig followed by a genuine compliment works good.
It's always better to risk being a dick than to risk being boring.
Be exciting, fun, and pull back so she has space to miss and chase you. When you know she's into you, make your moves. Don't EVER simp. Give her 2/3rds the attention she gives you. That's it.

[The-Wise-Phoenix]

It's not the only thing women are interested in. However a man who is good looking and has money would indeed have advantages when it comes to meeting women. Any woman says otherwise is lying.

[askandgiveAnswers]

Some chicks chat about the body they had sex with and they enjoy telling friends, the friends now want some. It doesn’t always matter on hot bod or sexy mind, maybe knowing how to either help others get off or teaching, mentoring. Yes, enjoy the skilled trades. Life, enjoy it.

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

Women don't know what the hell they want; for most of human history it was up to men to tell women what they wanted but women want to have control now and they're finding out why they never had it before.

[PoliteSpeaker]

Na buddy. Most of human history bs out of here

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

@PoliteSpeaker Just because you want something to be true, doesn't mean it is. Pal.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I can tell you why they never had it before.
In the bronze age humans began to fight a lot between each other. Men are biologically bigger so they were considered the ones fed the little meat there was at the time. Women began to be seen as beings to protect and frail. So the men's superiority in war was wrongly assumed as a superiority in everything.

Just because one is good with heavy jobs doesn't mean he is good at anything else. Case and point you thank the engineer not the construction workers after the house is done.

That continued for a long time. Women were assumed to be less capable than men.
Even if they proved many times is history that to be false. Today we have equal opportunities and they know how wrong it was they never had it before.

[VanillaSalt]

So I think women in the city are interested in these guys overall but here in the country they want good ol boys that love god, respect women, and work hard… social media corrupting even our women though.

[bamesjond0069]

Yes or they date fat ugly guys from mcdonalds. I don't know what tf is wrong with some girls. Yeah being materialistic and superficial is stupid but completely throwing it out is stupid too. How about normal girl date normal guy?

[Jlegacy]

If I girl wants a rich guy or a guy with ripped body or a guy with both, she should have what she wants but she should only ensure she favours other aspects, like his religion and his relationship with family, friends and enemies.

[Interstate]

There ARE Women out there that are so shallow, they only go after dough and abs. Then again, this comes into play where there are Men that will go after big breasts and slender bodies.

[Micky26]

From my experience if a girl is not with you for who you are then she's not worth your time.
Looks fade but who you are is forever... And it's the same for the other sex, don't be with someone for how they look but for who they are.

[FinalFantasyBro]

Not everyone both women and men will immediately choose their relationship partner for their looks or money. I actually heard from a quite few people that they honestly rather date somebody who has either a personality or at least some compatibility.

[Anonymous]

I have a great body, look great, money, cars, live in a beach front house, can't find any decent woman that I'm interested in, not very often I feel a woman is interested in me because of money or looks, though it has happened before but I saw right through it.
Generally speaking woman in general look at me the same as any other guy, not sure what's said during girl gossip though

[_piotr]

lots of money - yes
a ripped body - no, girls do not care for guy's looks

[DWornock]

That is what every girls want. Then they get a dose of reality.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

And then they want what?

[DWornock]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Ultimately, most people settle for close to the best they can do; that is, someone in or close to their league.

[Archerer]

These are things guys tell themselves who can’t get laid because they are shitty people, but can’t admit it to themselves.

[AdithyaR]

You spoke facts brother!

[slatyb]

There are way more single women than there are wealthy or exceptionally fit men. Im neither. I have a beautiful and very loving wife.

[Ryfyle]

If you're not making 6 figure and have shredded abs, consider yourself a permavirgin male that should off themselves post haste. All the Incels should be hunted down and killed before they start a mass shooting.

[humanearth]

Only young people think that way. Wait till you put on some years on your body and you'll see the truth

[Aethereal]

No, but having one or both of those things certainly help a guy's chances.

[Minamikun]

Yes, there's a group of girls that are only interested in these kind of guys

But i know that this doesn't apply for everyone

[Anonymous]

Women are attracted to money, good looks, confidence and masculinity. They will date the best man they are able to attract. But many are unable to attract their ideal man. So the answer to your questions is no.

[SmokinAces2000]

No to the money but maybe to the ripped body but I had many chubby friends in high school that got plenty of female attention

[Asianguy123]

Yes. Women have nothing in their head and they want to use men for convince and dump their men anytime and they cheat lie fuck and gossip all day and night

[Abdulwahh]

No that is not all but those are definitely bonuses confidence is number 1 you can have all that but be feminine and lack confidence you getting nothing