Are most guys desperate in real life?

[Ayanna240]

On GAG, men like to talk about women’s sexual market value about how men are unwilling to date any woman over 30.

but in reality, I find that most guys are secretly really desperate. As a woman who is a bit chubby / overweight , guys Get overwhelmingly overjoyed when they find out that I like them. They immediately return interest. And I’m not even close to being the most attractive girl. I am A bit overweight , never do makeup, never dress up. Most guys see me as a 4/10 - 7/10 (at best). Yet I can still get guys to return interest.

[Interstate]

I have responded to a few posts on here about people who act desperately for a relationship. But these guys who are throwing themselves at you, there is a good chance they ARE desperate. Either that or they haven't gotten some in a while, and you are the first one to look their way. But it all comes down to if you say yes or no.

[Anonymous]

I don't like the word "desperate" for anyone, girl or guy, but I will agree/say that the "pool" in general for guys compared to most women is significantly smaller for sure. Why? Because women are WAY more selective generally than guys are.

[Gomezaddam51]

It depends on the personality of the girl/woman. As for you, it also depends on how "Chubby" you are. I was married to a woman who got fat and I divorced her, her weight was a big part of why. I don't mind women with a little meat on them but not the whole cow. Most average guys have trouble finding a decent woman so they lower their standards and take what they can get.
Ever hear of Hypergamy? Most women will always want the best guy they can get, the 9 and 10 guys even if they are only 5 women. This means they rule out the lower level men who end up having to go with the 4 and lower women.

[Ayanna240]

beauty is also in the eye of the beholder. A 5 /10 woman to you, may be an 8/10 for someone else

[Anonymous]

It's not a secret that its easy to get laid if you are female, that is in fact common knowledge.

Clearly though you have completely misunderstood what has been said regarding market value; you are taking as an attack, it isn't; you are being made aware of objective facts for your own benefit.

In the most simplistic and broad terms when it comes to dating youth and good looks are most important if you are female and wealth and status are most important if you are male.

So if what you want is happily ever after with your best value partner you shouldn't, as a female, blow through your 20's / 30's never committing to anyone thinking that you will always have a free ride.

Now you can take or leave the advice, that is up to you; its your life to live, do whatever you want.

[Ayanna240]

Well if I’m overweight and plain , I can still get a guy. What makes you think 40 yr old women can’t get a guy? when men have no options , they can’t be picky

[Opinion Owner]

As others have explained to you already there is a world of difference between getting laid and having someone who cares about you in your life.

[Ayanna240]

he was blushing, overjoyed and nervous. A guy who doesn't care or value me, won't be nervous or blushing.

[Opinion Owner]

But you dont give a shit about him, he is just some desperate random piece of dick for you to use as you please.

Right?

So eventually he is going to realise what a piece of shit you are.

He isn't going to put a ring on your finger.

See the difference yet?

[Ayanna240]

a guy who is trying to only use me for sex, won't be nervous, blushing, and overjoyed.

Only perverts "use girls for sex". Decent guys that are marriage material do not do that kinda stuff.

[Opinion Owner]

I didn't say he was using you, I said you were using him.

Because apparently this list of guys you have chasing you has now become one specific guy who you have come online to post about what a worthless piece of shit he is.

[Ayanna240]

Who said I can’t have a list of guys I am chasing? I’m not in a committed relationship

[Opinion Owner]

You did.

[Ayanna240]

i think you're just a troll.

take a look at yourself before, you call other women unworthy of dating. I will never ever be as ugly as you

[Opinion Owner]

Quote me where i said that.

[Ayanna240]

As others have explained to you already there is a world of difference between getting laid and having someone who cares about you in your life.

[Ayanna240]

Wayy too many guys on GAG living in fantasy land rather than reality. Reality is overwhelming majority of guys are not good looking nor rich. So they are desperate and take whatever they can get out of life.

All this talk about how men don’t date women over 30 is bull crap. The typical guy would be overjoyed to have ANY woman interested In him

[Opinion Owner]

here's the thing:

You are getting angry about something which you have misunderstood from the very beginning.

[Ayanna240]

Well you were Being ignorantly incorrect and you wouldn’t admit it so why would anyone be happy about that?

[Opinion Owner]

I dont actually believe that you accurately represent what has been said to you, it is certainly not what i have said with regard to market value etc.

So before you get in a rage and start attacking everyone you see you might want to take a moment and rethink the information you are being supplied with because it is obvious to me that you do not understand what is being said and why it is being said.

You have just taken everything as a personal attack and now you are lashing out.

Which is actually what ignorance is by the way.

[Ayanna240]

I think you know what u said , u just don’t want to admit it

Nobody would be impressed by that hun

[Opinion Owner]

I honestly have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and I dont really care anymore.

You had all the help you are going to get, if you want to be an ignorant angry witch, fine, well its not fine but I am not going to get through to you because you are not interested in understanding anything you just want to be angry.

[Ayanna240]

What makes you think saying ignorant incorrect things then evading responsibility for making those statements is gonna impress anyone?

[Adam1978]

Plenty of simps in the world. The problem is that you won't know the guys intent or goals just because he showd interest. If you seem like an easy target they might temporary be worth the trouble to have some fun.

[Ayanna240]

No they were interested. They got jealous when I flirted with other guys

[Ayanna240]

Another one tried to impress me

[Adam1978]

Interested in what? Fuck you? Not hard to find a guy that is that unless your really one of the ugliest 20% of women.

[Ayanna240]

@Adam1978

Sounds like you don’t like the idea that they were interested in me

[Adam1978]

No but you don't seem to grasp the concept that if you act easy you attract guys who wants easy. Which means you find that they aren't desperate. They are just horndogs.

[Ayanna240]

I am not easy. You have no proof that I’m easy either.

And I can tell if a guy is only interested in sex vs interested in dating. Don’t think all girls are inexperienced 18 yr olds. Grown women can tell

[Truthatanycost]

Most guys are desperate online, and offline. But judging from the complaints I hear, they are more desperate for sex, rather than for commitment.

[Ayanna240]

I think having a higher sex drive may also factor into more desperation for love

[Truthatanycost]

What desperation for love?

[Ayanna240]

Men need women more than women need men

[Truthatanycost]

You should differentiate between commitment and dating, and sex and love. I know some really cute girls that have a lot of attention from men, but cannot get the committed relationships they desire. As hypocritical as it may be, most men have different standards when it comes to commitment Vs sex.

[Ayanna240]

Most guys want love unless they are young guys in their early to mid 20s. Young guys frequently aren’t interested in dating much.

It’s only the hot girls who attract perverts. Guys that are interested in them are too afraid to approach them

[Kaamraj]

Yes more guys are a bit desperate because of the lack of options they have. It's easy for women to secure sex, however, commitment is another story.

[Ayanna240]

He was nervous and blushing around me. When I lied to him that I had a boyfriend, he sounded soo sad

[PositiveNote]

Well, desperate for what, Ayanna? We are all desperate for something. Love would be numero uno, and a lot of us don't care what the package is! LOL

[TheFlak38]

yes everything you say is true. never before in human history were men more stupid, thirsty and desperate. those who aren't are a tiny minority and society hates them nonetheless.

[Ayanna240]

Why are men so desperate nowadays

[TheFlak38]

because the sexual marketplace is rigged in favour of women.

[Ayanna240]

I’m pretty sure if I can easily get a guy, it would also be easy for a 38 yr old woman to get a guy. You don’t need to be attractive to get a guy

[TheFlak38]

I agree 100%

[disgustingweebtrash]

Cope what guy talks about men not wanting to be with anyone above 30? Bottom like 60% of men will take whatever they can get above that men are usually not that desperate

[Ayanna240]

I would say 80% of Typical average joes are that desperate. deal With the high number

[Ayanna240]

If you’re not rich , not famous , not hot, you just take Watever comes your way

[disgustingweebtrash]

True top 20% of men have access to 80% of women I forgot, but yeah that's literally how it is

[Ayanna240]

What makes you think you can Only get women under 20 , if you’re not rich , not hot, not famous? You have nothing to offer

[disgustingweebtrash]

True you do have nothing to offer

[Ayanna240]

You don’t either.

[disgustingweebtrash]

I know I dont

[Ayanna240]

Of course. You names yourself disgusting weed trash

[loveslongnails]

What you say isn't surprising at all. Do you think only desperate guys pay attention to you?

[Ayanna240]

Why would someone as unattractive as me, be able to get any decent looking guy to be interested back to me?

[loveslongnails]

You tell me? What happens when they do? Do you give it up quickly? Do they stick around? What happens?

[Ayanna240]

I don’t think that matters to this question

[loveslongnails]

Not really, we were just progressing in the conversation. You presume that you're well below average in the attractiveness area, so maybe you presume ALL other guys think the same, therefore - they must be desperate. Well, what if some of them don't think you're as unattractive as you think you are?

[Ayanna240]

Well most people think I am overweight, or plain looking. Very Few people find me attractive. and trust me these are pretty nice decent looking guys that return interest to me.

So if decent nice looking guys will be into a fat girl , then that means most guys are just desperate

[loveslongnails]

Has it occurred to you that, hmm, maybe they liked something about your personality and your being fat didn't matter to them? You know, I always say a girl can LOSE weight, but she can't GAIN a personality.

[Jamesdng]

You nailed it

[loveslongnails]

@Jamesdng Thanks !

[Ayanna240]

@loveslongnails

They don’t know me personally. We don’t know each other very much yet. One of them literally I spoke to 1 time for 3 minutes

[loveslongnails]

But you consider that to be "returned attention", so... my response still applies.

[Ayanna240]

they blush, smile and seem overjoyed around me. Once I lied that I had a boyfriend, they seemed so down.

[TrueConfection]

I don't think guys are desperate. You're probably very charismatic.

[bamesjond0069]

"Yet I can still get guys to return interest for casual sex." I fixed it for you. Show me a ring from all these men if im wrong.

[Ayanna240]

ohh they get nervous and blush , around me.

[bamesjond0069]

And how is that relevant?

[Ayanna240]

Well why would a guy who doesn’t care about me , become nervous and blush around me?

[bamesjond0069]

Because he is nervous about screwing up his chance for sex or a casual relationship.

[Ayanna240]

Guys don’t tend to blush or get nervous if they are only going for casual sex. The fact that he is blushing and getting nervous , it means he cares about me A LOT

[bamesjond0069]

If you say so. I love how women love to speak for men and know whats going on in their head. Especially with no proof. Its not like you're happily married to a wonderful man. You literally just assert that one man is nervous and men return interest it means guys are desperate or you're a catch. Hint hint wink wink when im single i return interest to about 10 to 20 women at a time so i constantly have girls to date and move forward with until i decide to choose someone. Men always keep women on deck. It means absolutely nothing. The only thing that counts is legit marriage proposals from good men.

[Ayanna240]

As a woman who is experienced with guys, I can read men easily. I can tell if a guy just wants sex or if he sees me as a worthy potential partner.

[bamesjond0069]

Well then i guess you know a lot of hella desperate men. I agree with your OP.

[Ayanna240]

Well if you’re not super hot , not rich , not famous then why should you only date hot women?

[bamesjond0069]

I don't know but why would a man be desperate? I dont always feel like i do well with women but im not going to be desperate. And even if i am not feeling that confident yeah i will go for girls but its not serious just a confidence boost that was the original thought i had. Like i might enjoy an average sort of girl but to be serious i expect specific requirements met. For example im excited to date a hot divorcee but personally id never consider a divorced woman for marriage. I draw a line there. So my interest is strictly casual thats why i wasn't giving you much credit for it.

[Ayanna240]

if am overweight girls like me can get a guy. there's no doubt a 40 yr old woman can also get a guy. you don't need to be attractive to get a guy. biologically, women are more selective than men

[Ayanna240]

only perverts "use women for sex".

decent men that are marriage material do not stuff like that

[bamesjond0069]

Hmm well good for you then. Ig guys are generally desperate. I dont get it personally. I try to be excellent and won't tolerate someone i dont find similarly excellent. Although i hear there is an 80/20 rule for men in dating... 20 percent are having an easy time and 80 percent are failing miserably. Im certainly not in the 80 percent. So my perspective is probably different than the average man.

[bamesjond0069]

"only perverts "use women for sex".

decent men that are marriage material do not stuff like that"

I mean if you're going for male virgins or men with very low count that explains it all i think they are generally very desperate.

[Ayanna240]

@bamesjond0069

same reason why you only want women with low body count. No woman wants a man whore for a husband. especially a man who thinks its a good thing to trick women into bed

[bamesjond0069]

Lmao. Who thinks that? Is it a common thing youve ever run into? As a man and talking with the guys i never really can think of any i met that were into tricking girls into anything?

And that does explain why you think most men are desperate. Male virgins are desperate because hardly any women like them.

[Ayanna240]

the guys who returned interest in me are not virgins. one of them has a daughter.

[bamesjond0069]

Well i think most people would objectively say lower value. But thats your call what you accept. I personally dont date single moms. I have standards. Makes it more difficult but worthwhile.

[Ayanna240]

The other guy who also reciprocated interest into me is a single guy , quite handsome and talented

[Ayanna240]

Handsome and tall , I meant

[bamesjond0069]

But how are you sure he wants to marry you as opposed to something more casual? All women can get interest from handsome men for casual sex or casual dating. Not all women can get handsome men for serious relationships and marriage.

[Ayanna240]

not all women can get attention from handsome men.

why would a handsome man need to fuck an ugly fat bitch, if he is surrounded by hot girls?

[Ayanna240]

i flirted with another guy right in front of this handsome man, then he lost interest in me. unfortunately.

[bamesjond0069]

Lots of hot guys if there is only an ugly fat bitch around will hit it anyways. And yeah if he lost interest once you did that he's not desperate.

[Ayanna240]

if he was just looking for sex, he wouldn't have lost interested after I flirted with another guy.

[bamesjond0069]

Or he has standards and doesn't want to fuck someone who isn't all about him. At the end of the day, short of getting a ring, you cannot guarantee a man is serious with you. In this day and age when most people are not getting married, its safe to say most of these men have zero intention of marrying you because they have zero intention of marrying anyone. Thats the reality of the situation at best.

[Ayanna240]

He was jealous that i was flirting with someone else and it got him mad.

[Ayanna240]

men who just want to fuck, do not get jealous or angry if they see a girl flirting with another guy

[bamesjond0069]

Ok so he was planning to marry you then. Props. Most even very attractive women have a hard time getting married but you seem to have tons lined up. Good luck. At this point you seem delusional. When a man talks to a woman 99.9% of the time its about sex not marriage. No exceptions. But keep dreaming and applying a womans thought process to male behavior. Smh.

[Ayanna240]

most guys actually want to get married. but someone like you would have a hard time getting married. only prostitutes would marry you

[bamesjond0069]

Hahaha. Ok. Sure. Have you even read literally any posts on gag? But yes tons of men are trying to marry a self proclaimed average chubby chick. Do you even hear yourself? I am in a serious relationship with a girl i took her virginity. Sooo yeah not quite right. Thanks for playing. Try again.

[Ayanna240]

@bamesjond0069

I know you, you never plan on getting married or having any real relationship with any woman. You just sleep with prostitutes

[Ayanna240]

@bamesjond0069

You’re not the type of guys that decent girls would consider to be marriage material

[bamesjond0069]

Ok know it all. Smh.

[Ayanna240]

@bamesjond0069 you're even more undesirable than a chubby girl, in the eyes of women.

[bamesjond0069]

You sound pretty triggered right now.

[Ayanna240]

Telling you the truth does not mean I am triggered.

[bamesjond0069]

I like how you take constructive criticism. Very mature turn to personal attacks when someone answers your question. You should put a note on your next post asking for sycophant simp yes man answers only next time and save everyone the trouble.

[Ayanna240]

i know you're offended so now you're trying to mask your pain by saying that i am offended.

do you really think any woman would want to marry a man who just wants her for her pussy and to cook and clean? i dont think so

[bamesjond0069]

Seeing as im in a serious relationship with a girl like that id say yes? And also to make babies ofc.

[Ayanna240]

I have been talking to you on here since last year. I know a ton about you.

You don’t have any serious relationships. You’re just a sexual predator who only dates 18 yr old prostitutes then dumps them when they turn 25

[bamesjond0069]

Seeing as i never did that in my life... you sound psychotic. Bye felicia.

[Ayanna240]

you would date a 9 yr old if she had breasts

[InkdJerm]

Men are guided by our primal instincts. Those are protect, feed, and fuck

[TrueConfection]

😂 🤣

[zagor]

Talk on GaG is cheap...

[Fuentes]

Any woman has this power