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I think lying leads to a toxic relationship…sure you don’t have to say everything that pops into your head but no lies
you got the wrong answer because you worded it very negatively.
but the truth is nobody should be 100% honest all the time (ask the question "should you be 100% honest all the time in romance" and watch how the % in the poll flips)
Wouldn't change a thing
@sunshineglow oh i bet it would. try it
Should I be honest in the romance, yes. I don't see where's the problem.
@sunshineglow nobody can be 100% honest with you all the time. you won't be able to handle that
Very minor white lies happen, but as a rule lying is kinda the opposite of what you want to go for
No, it’s not. Many people seem to think that though.
Oh god, no its counter productive to healthy relationships and romance.
Kind of. Because she wants you to tell her she's the most beautiful woman in the world. Even she KNOWS that's a lie. But it's a lie she wants you to tell her.
That's cliche and a bad lie cuz lies shouldn't ever be easy to see
@Pillarofhell what can I say women at their core are pretty basic. It's only when you figure in their feelings minute to minute that they get difficult.
This is why I say lying to women is your best way to go in the beginning. Once she loves you then you can start being truthful. I don't care how good of a liar you are. At some point a woman is going to get mad at you. Women aren't stupid! They just act that way. Most women deep down if they would just listen to their gut would understand they're being lied to. But most women want to believe the lie as I said though at some point a woman is going to get angry with your lying ass but she'll love you at that point as well. And what will make the difference is how hard you tried to make good on your lies. You can promise a woman the world. She doesn't believe you'll actually make good on that promise. But in her head it plays out as you love her enough to give her the world. Whether it be true or not.
Wow how manipulative and trash you are...
If you lie it shouldn't be about yourself or them, it should be about the nature of reality. Like "when you die your spirit goes to the sky"
@sunshineglow how is that manipulative. Manipulative would be if I was doing it just to try to sleep with her. I got news for you a guy has very low odds with a women if he doesn't lie.
He has much lower if he lies, fullstop. For love - doesn't lie, doesn't pretend, isn't impatient... and lies and pretending are direct tries of manipulation. Mostly out of condescending view towards women, thinking they cannot sense a lie, or not caring about their feelings thinking they are lower beings anyway, so who cares how they feel. Wow. Morality zero points.
@sunshineglow see now you're getting it. Wow , I didn't even have t I explain that to you. I woul s not call you lower beings though.
I'm NOT getting it. I don't get the reason why would a man want an empty relationship based on nothing but his own lies. That is going to fall into nothing sooner or later. Rather get one night stand than a lie of a relationship. Woman wants to hear nice words AND wants them to be TRUE. If you can't provide truth, you're "efforts" of lies will crumble into pieces. And WOMAN NEVER FORGETS. then you go, and call your exes crazy. Who is crazy there I don't know. Thanks God there is no such trash in my life.
@sunshineglow i've explained this many times on here before. I take the short cut and just say women want men to lie to them. What I really mean is women have trouble telling the difference between real and fantasy. Men feed you a line and you buy it because your "feelings" kick in and your brain stops working. And if he's a good liar you gobble up everything he's selling. Because as I said your feelings are in charge now and you want to believe him. This is why so many of you come to G@G to whine about how you were duped.
You'd save yourself a whole lot of trouble if you would listen to me rather than getting hostile. But that leads me to my next lesson about women "You can't tell a woman anything". As b I I've said they are like fully grown children you can tell them not to touch a hot stove but they won't listen they have to touch it and burn themselves. The really dumb ones don't always learn the first either.
I simply disagree. That is rather male behaviour. Around myself I never saw a girl 20+ behaving willing to accept lies. Feelings can't "kick in" as you say, because - intuition tells you he lies. So how can anything kick in. Women want real romance. Which does exist. You might not be that kind of guy and might not have that kind of capacity, but it does exist. Just not any two people will have this kind of ability to connect. And not without falling in love in relatively same time. I've known a guy who blinded by love, went after an ex girlfriend who moved with parents to another country. They broke up because of distance, she thought it's too hard. A year later, after long suffer and occasional checking up with her, how she is, how is life, he decided to pursue her and went to that damn other country. Only to find out she has another boyfriend for almost a year, from almost immediately after moving there. So? The guy had real romance in his heart, even prepared wedding ring.
Is he foolish for having such capacity in his heart? Well, true love is always blind. Don't mindlessly trash genders, rather talk about individuals. And it has nothing to do with lies. But with HOPES. Distinguish damn things, you sound so immature. I saw and heard many men completely capable of romantically devotion. One of my very uncles went bankrupt just to prove his love to his horrible wife who in the end left him.
So shut up.
Every person desires a true love and a deep connection with a partner. Some people are capable of this some not. You are not. Don't assume same about others. That's only what small souls do. Assuming everyone has same bad traits as you.
@sunshineglow as I said you can't tell a woman anything. Touch the stove a few times you'll learn lol. All I can do is I tried to tell ya. Lmao
You tried to lie about the lies. That's all what I see. Grow up. That's all I can tell you.
Lies are incredibly necessary in modern relationships. If your partner asked how many people you've had sex with, and what you did with them, would you tell them everything? Of course you wouldn't. You'd omit information, which is lying.
So basically you don't believe more pure people exist... But they do
Honesty is essential to romance and not the other way around...
Fraud is never a turn on, it just shows that you are a fraud as a person.
I never believe lying is essential to romance. Lying means that a person is afraid to tell the truth.
Yes; not talking about a secret family or anything big, but white lies...
Saying something is funny when you don't think it is etc...
Lying is only essential at one or two things in life and this is not one of them
Absolutely. My friends told me i had "the most logical woman ever", yet in private, she still has sensitive feelings...
The opposite - truthfulness is.
Lying only causes hurt and pain.
ATTENTION MEN - Women lie about everything in Dating. DO NOT TRUST THEM AT ALL.
Does that answer your question.
Is not true at all😒
@sunshineglow How many women have you dated?
I know myself and my friends. So that's quite a knowledge.
@sunshineglow I have dated over twenty women
Maybe of Western mentality. To which I don't belong.
Wherever there is fear of loosing there will be lie
If wanna be trusted no. If you have to lie then it’s relationship built on lies.
No, honesty is the corner stone of a healthy relationship.
Not unless you want to have a toxic relationship
Lying is how you successfully blowup a romance.