Why do people assume incels are bitter and therefore can't get a grl, instead of incels are bitter because they can't get a girl?

[Anonymous]

Why is Chad never bitter?

[AmandaYVR]

Because it assuages any guilt or responsibility the other sex may have to take on. "If you were better, we would want you" type of thing. As opposed to starting off neutral, with an okay guy, who gets rejected because he's not better than okay, and then he turns bitter out of pain.

What should, ideally, happen is average girl goes with average guy. But average girl doesn't need sex as much as average guy does, so she's only motivated by a better guy. She could just leave the rest, be single. Meanwhile, he's got raging hormones, and feels dejected. He's been told "Man up", "Don't whine" and all that, so he turns to his default coping emotion - anger. And then no girl really wants to be around him.

[Anonymous]

Because there’s unattractive men with different women all of the time, but the ones that tend to get no women are the ugly ones that are also weird as hell on top of that

[Asker]

No there isn't. Thre's slightly below average men with women, but not truly ugly. You wouldn't know that because most women rate most men below average

[Opinion Owner]

Actually there is ugly men out there , that top of that have ugly personalities. Men that act bitter towards women don’t deserve women

[Asker]

They act bitter only cause they can't get women, even the ones who dont can't though, you're making excuses, chad can still be as shtty as he wants

[Opinion Owner]

If you act bitter because you don’t get women, then you definitely need to put focus on other things than that. Women aren’t the only thing in life to live for

[Asker]

No, it's just ingrained in our biology is all. You just dont want to recognize the problem, there are non bitter incels, and chads that are shitty, so you can take your lies and shove them up your ass

[Opinion Owner]

No you just have very unattractive qualities like you live your life wanting girls and not doing anything else with your life that attracts women to you. Loser status

[Asker]

Money you mean, women dont "love" men unless he has a lot of money. Unless he's chad, in that case he can still get into relationships, even if he beats the woman, right?

[Opinion Owner]

There’s unattractive men that don’t have crazy amounts of money and still get women because they have attractive qualities that attract women toward them. You are just simply a loser that spends his time focusing on how he gets no women.

[Asker]

Oh more lies

[Opinion Owner]

The fact that I’m giving you (a loser) the time of day like this is disgusting. Bye

[Asker]

Why am I a loser? I had to work my ass off for every relationship I've ever got. All you had to do was fucking exist and wait

[Opinion Owner]

Oof I wish that’s how it worked for us women, I wouldn’t have been put through abuse by my ex

[Asker]

It is how it is, you don't have to ask a guy out, make money, be social, etc. You were in a toxic relationship cause he was hot. But you want to say incels dont get relationships cause they're toxic.

[Opinion Owner]

Oof you lack education on how abuse works. Maybe you would get women if you actually educated yourself. You seem arrogant in many subjects and lack basic empathy

[Opinion Owner]

The last guy I talked to I asked him out 😂

[Asker]

How? All I said is he was toxic, that he abused you. You said incels can't get gfs for that exact reason.

[Opinion Owner]

And he lost me. I dumped him, even though he still wanted to me to be around. He hasn’t had me since I dumped him. So your point? You lack basic education on how abuse works.

[Asker]

And he had you, dumbass. Incels have never had anyone, can't be cause they're toxic then since your boyfriend was toxic.

[Opinion Owner]

Once again, you lack basic education on how abuse works. Even though he was abuse , we had fun moments. You seem miserable and boring which is a terrible combo

[Opinion Owner]

Abusive*

[Asker]

Fun, as in he was hot and you enjoyed fucking him. Keep proving my point

[Opinion Owner]

What point did I prove to you? He has a fun personality but had abusive tendencies. Educate yourself before you just arrogantly comment on abuse situations

[Asker]

You said incels get nothing cause they're toxic, your boyfriend was toxic though. Now you move the goalpost and say but he was fun, there are fun incels too, try again

[Opinion Owner]

No I said incels get no women because they don’t do anything with their lives other than obsess about how they get no women. You have no personality and you are miserable. That’s unattractive as hell. There’s no fun incels out there

[Asker]

That's not true though, you keep making more and more excuses. Women for the most part have no personality. They don't have to work for anything so they have no character, they're agreeable automatons

[Opinion Owner]

So if women are horrible to you, why do you obsess over them so much? You need to think before you speak because you say women are attracted to assholes but the only person that seems to be attracted to “shitty people” is you.

[Asker]

How am I obsessing, cause I point out the truth? You're a great judge of character by the way, dating an abusive guy and all. You had fun though, he was hot and his dick felt good so that justifies it

[Opinion Owner]

You have made several posts regarding women because you get none. You think men that get women make these posts? You are obsessed and you are projecting what your issues onto others. I had fun because my ex actually had a personality unlike you. Your personality is built off of your obsession for women

[Asker]

You are such a delusional automaton, this is why close to no women are accomplished in the sciences, philosophy, sports, anything. Cause you dont have to, men do all the work. Then you make excuses for your shit behaviour and life choices. Your ex was hot, let's call a spade a fucking spade. If he wasn't as hot but exactly the same he'd be an incel, fuckface

[Opinion Owner]

That’s weird because many women are successful in science based industries. Sports are a given to men because men were built to be superior in agilities. But you most likely aren’t even superior in sports yourself and you are a man. Even if my ex was attractive what is it to you? Why do you think I deserve someone that I’m not attracts to? Why do you think looks have to be neglected when looking for a partner? Would you go for someone that is below your standards look wise? You blame everyone but yourself.

[Opinion Owner]

No the difference is, is my ex was a likeable person even though he was abusive to me. This is where you lack basic education of abusive men because most abusive men are likeable and have great personalities when they aren’t in close relationships.

[Asker]

Because you act like it's cause incels are toxic when in reality it's not, it's that you aren't physically attracted to them. But you want to say stupid shit like working on personality will make them physically attractive.

Men are stronger cause we literally do all the heavy lifting, in all facets of life, intellectual as well. There's so few female scientists, philosophers, etc, compared to men. You're all obsessed with status and social media and being social because you're agreeable conformist automatons

[Asker]

>likable
>abusive

🤔

[Opinion Owner]

Dude the difference is, is incels are externally toxic. I don’t even know you personally and your attitude on life is physically unattractive.

[Asker]

Many aren't, many are fun and nice, just not attractive. Know who statistically beats women the most? Non incels, by far

[Opinion Owner]

Yes a person can be likeable to others but abuse his women in private. This is where education on abuse comes in and you lack it

[Opinion Owner]

You don’t seem fun at all.

[Asker]

No, you're rationalizing it, abuse is the exact opposite of likability

[Asker]

Ofc I dont, cause I'm calling you out on your bs and you dont like that

[Opinion Owner]

If only you were educated on that, you wouldn’t have such trouble understanding what I am saying but you lack education on abusive men. You think abusive men are externally miserable when that isn’t the case

[Opinion Owner]

What bullshit? Lol I admitted I dated an abusive men and I am reflecting on how he is different than you even though he treated me like garbage because externally he wasn’t as miserable as you are

[Asker]

Oh jfc, you think this is my energy when I'm out in public? I'm not even an incel you muppet, but you women are delusional liars. There are fun incels that are nice, but you won't acknowledge them cause they destroy your worldview.

R/incelswithouthate got taken down for that reason 😂

[Opinion Owner]

You personally don’t see it but I 100% bet your energy towards people is bitter and miserable even if you can’t see it for yourself. That’s your main issue is you lack self awareness

[Asker]

I have friends and I've had gfs, people are nice to me and approach me, try again

[Opinion Owner]

Even men that answered this aren’t attracted to your vibe. I’m sure you have a couple of friends that have your same loserish views. You aren’t the only loser with this mindset out here. Birds of a feather flock together.

[Asker]

Look at all these excuses you make, you're a little weasel

[Opinion Owner]

What excuses? You aren’t the only loser out here with this miserable loser vibe. Having a couple of friends doesn’t mean you aren’t a loser. Drug addicts have friends, school shooters even have some close friends

[Asker]

Girls with no personality or achievements like you have friends

[Opinion Owner]

Where did I even speak on my achievements? Lol I don’t trust you enough to be remotely friendly towards you.

[Asker]

You have none

[Opinion Owner]

You think I have none because I have no desire to speak to you regarding what I have accomplished. I’m not arrogant like you where I use my achievements to “win” arguments

[God_of_Thunder]

The issue is what they're bitter about, not why they're bitter.

They're bitter because they can't get a woman, but that's nobody's fault except their own. So, in essence, they're bitter at themselves, which is moronic.

Being an "incel" is a "you problem" so why should anyone else even care? The only person that can change that is you, and blaming everyone else in an effort to absolve yourself of responsibility pretty much guarantees that nothing will ever change.

So, you'll go on being an incel, and therefore continue to blame women for your own failing, and therefore continue to be an incel. There's nothing there that elicits any form of sympathy, whatsoever.

[Asker]

🤦‍♂️ "They're bitter because they can't get a woman" you fucking idiot. How is that on them? If they were couldn't get a woman cause they were bitter that would be on them. But you said it yourself why they're bitter

[God_of_Thunder]

You obviously didn't read the rest of my post. The fact that they can't get a woman is their own damn fault.

They're bitter about the end result, instead of looking at the root cause. As long as that is the case, then they'll NEVER get laid.

The fact that you don't realize this, blame others, and immediately resort to calling me a "fucking idiot" pretty much proves my point.

You wanna know why you can't get laid? Your personality sucks, that's why. Go ahead, though: blame women, instead of improving yourself, and you'll always be an incel.

[Asker]

HAHAHHAHAHA yeah bro, i'm sure a balding 5'0 tall ugly man can't get girls cause of his personality 🤣🤣🤣

[God_of_Thunder]

Again, you deflect, but that's your prerogative.

It's a waste of my time even trying to explain this to you, so I'm done trying.

[Asker]

That's not a deflection, you think it's all about personality and nothing else which makes you fucking delusional and low iq...

[Tomsta]

Although there are legit reasons why it's not the guys fault. For the most part it's guy who basically have apathy, they don't really have viewpoints one way or another they just label everything as "fine, ok or meh"

Now some people are into that kinda thing, but the vast majority of people feed of other peoples passion in a field. Also as Thunder said, most don't want to do anything about it to change it; which in fairness is not always on them, for them it's an unknown and unknown is scary and if they genuinely feel like they have no-one to do it with they don't have any form of emotional (and sometimes physical) support

As much as people (including me) like to state they are 'lone wolves' human being are intrinsically social creatures

[RolandCuthbert]

Because no matter what you claim, the reason why you are alone has to do with your attitude, your self-esteem, and your confidence.

When you fix that stuff, you will have success at dating.

You can't say your confidence and esteem will come after you get laid. That's not even being rational.

[Asker]

Lol you are so delusional, attractive men can get a girl regardless of how they act. There are incels that are normal but women aren't attracted to them. What are yu supposed to do if you look like a rodent, roland? Answer me that

[RolandCuthbert]

That is a lie. Every incel claims they are unattractive. And women will tell you that simply is not the case. Women are physically attracted to incels. They simply dislike their personality. It is so weird that you blame your lack of success on your looks when you know there are men who look much uglier than you and still get laid. I posted my photo here and I received a rating of a 4.

That will never shake my confidence.

[Asker]

Really? What about the incels that can't get a match on Tinder, Roland? Are women saying they're attractive?

What about the Chads that beat their gfs? Why can they get gfs despite being toxic?

[RolandCuthbert]

If you are looking for a date on tinder, you deserve what you get. I told you before, try using meetup.

Develop your confidence and your esteem. You can meet women in group settings. You need to work on yourself.

[Asker]

I thought you said women are attracted to incels, so why can they get no matches, Roland?

Some incels are confident, yet still get nothing. You're making excuses

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude, you are on Tinder. If I could get a date on Tinder, I would have used it. You want pity. . . again, you will get none from me.

[Asker]

Nigga, what about the guys that can't irl either?

[RolandCuthbert]

You are a pathetic pitiful incel. Take responsibility for who you are. NO ONE ELSE FORCED YOU TO BE THIS WAY.

[Asker]

I dont mean me, I've had sex. If a guy is 5'0 tall, bald and ugly no amount of your bullshit "just be confident bro" will get him a girl

[God_of_Thunder]

@RolandCuthbert We're wasting our time.

People like this will never accept responsibility for their own faults. It's easier for them to blame women, instead of working on their own personality, so that's what they do. 🤷‍♂️

[RolandCuthbert]

You are a liar. Of course you mean you. You are not here defending incels. And if you were there is nothing you can say that changes the fact, that they are responsible for their own lives.

If they are pitiful and alone, it is because they choose to be that way.

[Asker]

Yep, they chose to be 5'0 tall and unattractive to women

[RolandCuthbert]

@God_of_Thunder It may be a waste of time. But that dude in Highland Park had the same notion. That somehow his misery was being caused by "society". We can't ignore these dudes any longer. e have to confront them, because they making other people victims of their extremism.

[God_of_Thunder]

@RolandCuthbert Yeah; I agree with you, there.

This stuff is definitely out of control, and nobody should have to pay for their delusions.

[Asker]

You think its just petsonality you're delusional

[RolandCuthbert]

Delusional is blaming someone else for your inability to meet and date women.

[Asker]

Delusional is blaming people for shit out of their control

[RolandCuthbert]

And that statement is delusional.

Everything in your life is within your control.

You are just another pathetic incel, blaming everyone else.

[Asker]

Really? So how do I become tall?

[RolandCuthbert]

You don't have to become tall. The goal was to attract women. You can do that.

If you claim you can't, that is a lie.

[Asker]

Look up blackops2cel, how would he attract a woman? 🤔

[RolandCuthbert]

Why do I have to look him up? Robert Hoge's wife is stunning.

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[RolandCuthbert]

One photo didn't post.

[Asker]

He's rich

[RolandCuthbert]

How the fuck was he rich before they met, you pitiful backwards lying pathetic incel?

You want some pity, that's all. That's how fucked up you are.

[RolandCuthbert]

He wasn't. And even if you were right, explain me you racist cowardly shit eating incel.

Explain why I have dated plenty of beautiful women. And at GaG I rate a fucking four. Why didn't I give up and start feeling sorry for myself?

[Asker]

Cause you dated 3s...

[RolandCuthbert]

You know my women are 10s. That's why you stay anonymous.

You are a pitiful pathetic loser incel.

But no one is going to pity you. We are just going to laugh at you.

[RolandCuthbert]

Prove what? You are a cowardly incel troll.

Go cry yourself to sleep.

[coachTanthony]

---I once knew an INCEL who finally listened to some advice and went and got a prostitute and finally lost his virginity. He went back a few other times and that built confidence and now he has no issues with women. Most men who can't get women won't do this. They are so righteous in blaming women for their issues that they simply get a dopamine drip off that alone. Hate is a powerful drug.

[Anonymous]

Because you guys are. You can't compete for the women you want.

You guys have women. You just don't want left overs or Fat/Ugly women.

You don't wanna compete for women like chad/Tyrone does..

I follow the incel /Black pill community its a bunch skinny dudes, fat dudes, autism dudes who are broke, living off the government or with their Family.

Women don't only want chad and Tyrone they want the best options.

And you shiitty DNA isn't cutting it. 99% of y'all wouldn't sleep with yourself

[Avicenna]

Id Imagine That it can be either of those scenarios, depending on the situation , and in some cases, those are not mutually exclusive. Again, it’s only a problem if they want a woman but can’t get one. There have always been a number of people who are happy being alone.

[Lickmymeet]

That’s bullsht women in our culture have reduced a mans value to our physical appearance and income

women in other parts of the world see and know the value you bring to their lives just from being male

I wish I could just get a plane and take incels around the world to see some gorgeous nines and dimes down to earth women who will treat them like kings

[MikeInHawaii]

Maybe they could get girls, but won’t play their shallow superficial games and are just happier without them.

[zagor]

A lot of them are bitter because they won't settle for a girl at their level of attractiveness.

[Fromdusktilldawn]

I could consider myself an incel, I feel sometimes bitter because of too much rejection. Chads are too confident to be bitter

[icetome]

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