Is it true women only want the top guys?

[Anonymous]

Being a normal guy doesn’t cut it. Women want the best mate. The best one the top 10% even when they are average

It’s true - women don’t want normal guys ideally

I disagree

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately that is true. Let’s be honest, the majority of men are not physically fit, do not have a lot of money, and are not good looking. And unfortunately men these days have shown women how desperate they are and because of all the competition, men lowered their standards and made average and below average women think they are 8s 9s and 10s. Women have a way easier time getting men, so they filter out the regular guys and only go for the top tier men because they can. Only thing you can do is work on yourself and know your worth and when you get to that level you can enjoy the upper echelons of women. And when women get with average guys or below average guys it’s usually because they are benefiting from them in some kind of way.

[tiamatx]

Not true in my observations.

If you are not fit - just get fit. No need to be top-level athletes fit. Being even moderately fit shows that you are not lazy, have some motivation, are rather healthy and do something in your life. Is it truly something extraordinary to expect these basic traits from the partner (both sexes)?
Being moderately fit is extremely easy and doesn't take much time. It does take some willingness though.

Women have it easier when it comes to getting sex at all, including online. Low quality (both visual and general) won't get top guys, maybe incidentally for ONS.

Women and men will sometimes try to overly benefit from the relation, it is up to their partners to set and enforce the boundaries.

[Opinion Owner]

@tiamatx “if you are not fit, just get fit” easier said then done. If that were true, the world would not have an obesity pandemic. Guys who are fit, guys who have financial freedom, are not low level men. Those are considered top level guys. Also, women have more to benefit when dating low level men. For example, a low level guy with money can provide women with materials. What does that woman benefit him? Sex? Being seen with her? That’s a beta male whoes okay with being in a fake relationship like that.

[Asker]

by the way guys. I’ve been getting bigger. I used to be super skinny and I made big changes. No it doesn’t even feel difficult. Losing weight is harder than building muscle.

[Asker]

You just be patient and get into good habits. You can’t just accept being out of shape

[tiamatx]

Obesity pandemic is a result of laziness. Small percentage are truly ill (thyroid problems etc), for most it is simply devouring huge amount of unhealthy foods and not moving at all.
No woman would want a lazy guy, not just about fitness level, just like a guy would not want a lazy girl.

[Truthatanycost]

Getting fit is as easy as standing on a wooden board for 30 seconds every 2 days if you do isometric lifts. Same thing Bruce-Lee did. People assume I work hard at the gym several times a week... I don't.

[Opinion Owner]

@tiamatx it’s not able if they are ill or not. The fact is a large percentage of people are overweight, obesity lowers attractiveness level. Not all people find it easy like us to workout and eat right. And what I’m saying is that, nowadays just by being fit, and having a decent job, it already puts you in the top level of men.

[tiamatx]

If just being fit and having a decent job puts one in the top level, than the bar is truly low

[Opinion Owner]

@tiamatx well it kinda is. Depending on the bar you go to.

[tiamatx]

I am surely not top 10% (or maybe I am, but this would mean the bar is really low) and I have never had problems with finding women. Sure not every girl I met wanted to have sex with me but I've had plenty of ONS (including really wild stories), some friends with benefits and LTR.

Just a couple of days ago a girl at a party (strong 7/10) directly invited me for a date. Having a girlfriend I playfully refused. And this was not a singular event.

The only above-average traits I have are: not fat (but almost skinny), smart, dynamic. If you are not morbidly obese nor anorectic skinny, it makes little difference. Having some muscles almost always helps so get your lazy ass and lift ;)

And I always try to make the first move when I like a girl, not waiting for any signals etc, mostly because I doubt I would be able to recognize anything but the most obvious signals ;) Being daring gets you huge bonus.

To sum up - stop whining, start doing things!

[coachTanthony]

Problem with this theory is that when men see stuff like this they don't even try. You would be surprised what you can get if you just became the best version of yourself.

[FilmGuy93]

That's not true at all, no. Most men would be blown away to find out how much mileage they can get out of being basically well dressed, hygenic, having trimmed fingernails, using lotion, and knowing basic social skills (although, a lot of women severely lack social skills too, so that's not a high bar).

[Rockstarrrrr]

Yeah that's why homeless, broke guys, drug addicts have girlfriends...

[Asker]

Yh but those girls are also in the bin with those other men.

[Rockstarrrrr]

Yeah probably... I just answered your question..

[Anonymous]

most average looking guys have had multiple gfs and get laid so go figure

[Asker]

Si does that mean I’m ugly?

[Opinion Owner]

not necessarely. a lot of more normal looking guys your age are dont get much but it's not your looks that are holding you back (unless you dont take of yourself or your overweight)

[Asker]

I’ve been considered handsome in the how do I look question. I’m lean and fit, tall too. I still can’t get a girl

[Asker]

I can’t help but feel this is my destiny

[Opinion Owner]

then it's probably how you try to get girls or your personality. also by can't get a girl do you mean as a girlfriend or in general like sex included

[Opinion Owner]

it's not your destiny, even ugly guys end up dating or screwed girls. if your good looking you'll definitely be fine and technically that would mean your a top guy anyways

[Asker]

I’m interested only in dating. I’m a virgin at 24.

[Asker]

I believe you’re right. But I can’t help but feel nowadays girls just want this insanely gifted guy. It feels this way.

[Twalli]

Men are no different, men want the top girls too. The question is, who do people aim for? We may want something we don't aim for. I want to win the lottery, but I don't aim for it.

[Anonymous]

Conventional YouTube wisdom says so. Which probably means some women in society are looking for an easy leg up in this way. Others, one would hope, are more sensible and realistic.

[Anonymous]

Sure, and most guys only want the top girls (10% or even less, me for example, I'm very picky).

[Anonymous]

In general yes. But everything is relative. Women are as loyal as thier options.

[BJP21]

I've never understood this 10% thing.

[Songomatic]

Not according to big bang theory:)