Are women worth the effort you need to make just to be someone they'd want to date?

[Anonymous]

[Agape93]

Of course. That is, unless you refuse to make an effort, in which case, why should we settle for someone who won't even try rhe bare minimum?

[Asker]

What is the bare minimum? Because when women say that, its not actually the bare minimum

[Agape93]

When we say it's the bare minimum, it's the bare minimum. Period.

Keep up with hygiene. Don't be an asshole. Be loyal. Keep your damn room clean. You'd be amazed how many guys have issues with those.

[Asker]

What other things? There's plenty more

[Agape93]

That's literally the bare minimum, which is what you asked for.

[Asker]

Plus a good career, good income etc

[Agape93]

Nope, those are shit on his end for himself. It has jack to do with it or, again as YOU asked for, the bare minimum. Funny how I'm telling you what our bare minimum is, and YOU are adding more to it.

[Asker]

Because usually women care about these things. Its a general observation

[Agape93]

An yet again, thats not what you asked for. Stop fucking arguing.

[Asker]

I want you to be honest

[Agape93]

And I have been. Now again, stop fucking arguing with me.

[msc545]

If you have to put that much effort into it, she is arrogant and entitled nd not worth your time.

[NostalgiaSenpi]

Depends on what you're looking for. Some of the best things take time and effort.

[Asker]

And a lot of failure

[NostalgiaSenpi]

Shit happens.

[Hulk_kitty]

It is worth it, dating is like job hunting, you have to be willing face a lot of rejection, before you meet the right girl.

There are all different types of women just like men. Don't generalise, otherwise you will be the one losing out on meeting a great girl in the future. But only date when you feel ready for it, and your happy with your life. if not, then don't do go out dating.

Generalising all females is very dangerous thing tod, because you are only self sabotaging great opportunities when it comes to meeting girls. At the end of the day, its no loss to any women out there, life will go on without you pal. Girls will still continue to see other guys without your presence in this world.

You will the be the loser if you generalise. If you don't want sex or family or a partner fair enough, and your not hurting anyone. You just want to live a single, and you are happy with that, that doesn't make you a loser. but generalizing the females is a bad attitude.

[Anonymous]

No they are not, you are better off if you can get along without them.

[boggboss]

Depends on the women you ate dating