Guys, would you imagine and consider dating a transgender woman even if she's done the sex reassignment surgery?

[Christoff92]

Adea

Emma Ellingsen

Samantha Lux

Elle Bradford

Blaire White

I would honestly as a straight/heterosexual man. If she's done the SRS or planning to then it doesn't matter. Still be with her 😊

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+1 y

Men that want to be daddy's want a natural born biological women. That can understand. Also can understand that they wouldn't prefer a transgender women. That's ok. But transphobia and bigotry is completely unacceptable. Stop the hatred and get a life 😀

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+1 y

Everybody has the right for opinions and the right to accuse. But thanks anyways for all your replies and feedbacks 😊

[provokeesmokee]

Yes. In fact I would say as an enby myself, I prefer trans folks. Compared to cisgender folks, trans folks will understand me and my relationship with gender much more.

And I've had enough of dating cis, het, and white folks. The sheer amount of education they require on things outside their immediate experience is frankly exhausting and boring.

I don't care about the genitals. Those are, like, a tertiary concern. Heart and mind first, then we can worry about hardware.

[Curmudgeon]

OK, I will take your statement at face value. How far along in their transition would such people have to be for you to have a relationship with them?
1. those who do the makeover and pretend, but have no anatomical changes? Well, that's just "Dudes In Dresses" and a dress up kink, but still heterosexual. Right?
2. those who have made the medical changes in order to "pass" as female, but kept their reproductive organs as they were? They would be "Chicks with Dicks" and you would be in a what from the outside looks like a lesbian relationship with them. Right?
3. those who went all out, mutilating the groin structure and all.

No this is not baiting you. I presented my point of view already, and I am sincere in trying to understand yours.

[zagor]

enby?

[Curmudgeon]

@zagor I had to look it up on Google.

[natedawg0620]

You mean trying to explain nonsense to an educated person is different? Well imagine that!

I dont hate you, I support you living your life. But I also support at least attempting to speak with a doctor about your gender dysphoria at some point. ❤️

[zagor]

@Curmudgeon I just did that, and it seems NB would be a lot clearer, though not perfectly so.

[Curmudgeon]

@zagor I suppose she thought that spelling it phonetically would be cuter, But hey, why not "en-bee"? :D

[Curmudgeon]

@natedawg0620 I know, reasoning might be a failure here, but we must try.

[Nikki1989]

Of course, I would, but I value the person inside over anything else.

[Christoff92]

Off course. So do I 😀

[MrOracle]

Absolutely not. I have zero interest in biological men, regardless of how they present or act or appear.

I'm happy for them that some men are fine with it - I don't wish any ill will towards them - but neither will my interest ever change - only 100% biological women for me - and I strongly suspect for the vast majority of men.

[Avicenna]

Fuck no. I only want biological women.

You might want to ask yourself why anyone would encourage men to date men pretending to be women, especially when there's plenty of biological women out there. Why "cancel" biological women?

[gorydetails]

Because people like OP are in the closet gay. So they want to make it seem like they're normal if they can get other dudes to admit they'd bang dudes, all they need is a wig and fake tits to fool themselves.

[Rei13]

I would have to really like someone to want to date them if they are trans. While I do find other people attractive of both genders, sexually I’m attracted to biological men and I do want a family. My boyfriend wouldn’t at all. But no hate to that community, there is a person out there for everyone. I’ve known a few people who transitioned and are a lot happier and found their person.

[ManOnFire]

I would throw my life into utter poverty and debt by spending money on prostitutes before I ever touch one of those.

[Mewzinc]

😂🤣 thank you for this comment.

[ManOnFire]

@Mewzinc And get every STD in the book from a real woman before even flirting with a trans for ONE minute.

[DreamLife7]

Amen! I found a real man in the comments

[ManOnFire]

@DreamLife7 Till the day I die, ma'am.

[MikeInHawaii]

Some studies have shown prostitutes have the same rates of STDs as the general public. I’d take my chances with a prostitute over a gay man, any day!

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Whatever helps with depopulation.

[Curmudgeon]

NO, because a gaping wound created down yonder through mutilation (and which has to be periodically maintained as a gaping wound--did you know that?) does NOT a real vagina and cervix make. And men who still think about having children one day are not going to settle for this.

Could frustrated "InCel" men settle for a trans companion, the InCel in effect being/becoming a closeted gay man, if his partner "passed" successfully?

Would shorter and/or soft spoken and said to be effeminate men decide to go down this gender mutilation path after too much rejection from women? That is, "if you can't beat them, join them"?

I *suppose* it is possible, but think about how much $$$ that will cost to *really* pull it off and *really* make it work. Far beyond just playing "dress-up" and getting a good makeup makeover and wearing a corset and "falsies":
1. Surgically altering faces to look feminine - getting rid of the male cleft chin, and "Adam's Apple".
2. Altering the vocal cords to sound feminine.
3. Breast Implants.
4. Waist altering like removing the lowest rib to give that desirable (or at the very least plausible) feminine shape.
5. All the necessary hormones.
6. Laser hair removal and electrolysis. (Thist one alone is already a pretty penny in colst for very straight men who are merely trying to get rid of "Mister Harry Manback" or "Unibrow", let alone the amount required for a male to successfully "pass").
7. And the converse, the necessary treatments required to give such men who are trying to look like women a nice "mane" of good feminine hair on their scalp.
8. Probably a lot of other medical procedures that I just can't imagine.

In an age of declining living standards in the Western World, is this realistically feasible for all but a handful of the affluent? Generation X men are on average noticeably less affluent than Boomer men were at like age, and this downward trend has progressed with Milennials/Generation Y and Generation Z that have followed. And men with that kind of $$$ might as well just "buy" a lady companion. Even assuming the ever lowering costs of cosmetic and elective surgery in real $$$ (YES, Leftist dupes, market forces work where they are allowed to work), that's still "shedloads" of $$$.

And how much of a trans person's life expectancy is shortened by going under the knife THAT much and taking that many altering chemicals? Each surgery has the progressively higher risk of complications, and Michael Jackson's multiple cosmetic surgeries certainly shortened his life.

But there is a contrarian (and snarky) video commentator, Martin Goldberg, who had an interesting YouTube commentary on this. In an age of disgusting "Woke" Culture, might some men do this just to get a boost on the Society's New Professional Victim Ladder? You might check it out and be amused:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hoNatNwahME

But reality strikes back hard, as this former woman who tried to become a man discovered. Sadly, she STILL recites all of the Leftist Commiecrat lies and indoctrination brainwashing "he" received and "he" does not appear to have learned that "male privilege" really DOES NOT exist:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/MbjZgG-_Zwg

[RoosterBreast]

-I have some corrections. Fuck the order, will say whatever I remember.
Michael Jackson may have gone through surgeries which surely lower life expectancy, but we can never trust the official stories about celebrities/how and why they died.

-People are indoctrinated into androgyny, so the costs of trannifying is becoming less. Bot only is it more acceptable to date trannies, but people are losing the image of what genders really look like.

Celebrities are all trannies, the most (artificially by the media) popular ones are the most androgynous. They purposely label "hottest scum alive" winner when nobody really likes them. Just like presidents are set up when nobody votes for them. You very well know that, as well as the ling list of celebrities who are trannies being ugly and yet "award winning beauty" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLHp4C2pjGI

These fucks seem to live long. Very fucking long, perhaps they have technology we don't. Anyway they have normalized it so that men don't need to have ribs removed and hairline remade to pass as a woman, because the average person nowadays is totally fine with masculine "women." Hell, there are glamour articles called "hottest female celebrities with Adam's apples".

-I'm more likely to fuck a silicone robot than a tranny.

-this just so fucking stupid. How is it possible to be a fucking tranny? What's the fucking point? How did anyone ever come up with this whole idea?

[Curmudgeon]

@RoosterBreast NO disagreements there - I am depressed and disgusted how much this nonsense has become chic or fashionable.

But "Wacko Jacko", as the tabloids called him, was known for "going under the knife" many times in his life, and each surgery has the risks of complications, so multiply this risk many times over and... well, you can only roll the dice so many times before it comes up "snake eyes".

[WiccanLady2023]

Quite bluntly for their OWN SAFETY transwomen should tell a man that they are NOT women. It is going to be VERY obvious when sexual relationships start and there ARE some men who are going to react VERY negatively. As in they'd beat the shit out of the trans if not, depending on their mentality / religion / background, even kill them.

This is something SOOO many trans do not understand. They think they can PLAY pretend as being women and the world will accept that they are "women". No. It won't

And it will never because biologically they are NOT women and they DO NOT function as women. They don't have periods, can't have children, and "vagina" is dessert dry.

[natedawg0620]

Not to mention its pretty misogynistic that a male thinks being a woman is something you can buy off of a shelf! Id like to see more women stand up for themselves because at the end of the day, a male that transitions to a female is just as disgusting as a white person in black face. Its women face and women need to stand up for it!

That weirdo that was in the bud light commercial is doing a speaking tour making $40k per event. You know what he's talking about? Empowering women! 😂 I believe thats called mansplaining and there is nothing wrong with women demanding this nonsense stop!

[WiccanLady2023]

@natedawg0620 The funny thing is, is is a LARGE number of trans genders want to be their original sex after their "change". There was even one rich trans who had like 4-6 sex changes because the person couldn't figure out if they liked a "dick" or a "vagina" better.

Personally as someone who works in medical - whose father worked in medicine - I look at these trans & particularly the sex changes as unethical and immoral wherein doctors take advantage of people that don't need a make believe "vagina" they need medication

[whistlingwh0res]

I am a trans woman and I don't really care about what people think. I mean.. it's not for everyone. some people like it some don't. some only like trans woman. they actually prefer trans woman over biological woman. I mean.. it's kind of hard to find those who love us but they exist. Once I went to a club with a room only for trans woman. and boys with trans woman were amazing hot looking boys. They literally look like Hollywood stars which it make sense because trans women are totally drama queen and those who wants to be co-star in drama look like someone in actual drama? I don't know... I met someone with blond blue when I was escorting. He wanted be my boy friend and he was so so so hot! with big dick. I mean.. I am not a size queen and I actually prefer small dick because anal sex doesn't give me pleasure but something I can do to keep him around. the only thing matters is there are men who see porno which trans woman with huge dick fucking their ass and cum huge and they want that thing happen to them. I hate those freaks. porno ruined their mind and they fantasize those things. there are so many men like that normal people don't look for the relationship online. sigh.. it's a hard life but I keep going on. in fact I am a good christian and I have heard God's voice once and I am happy to be still alive. I thought of suicide so many time but right now I am happy with my supportive family father mother sister and brother and I support them as well. I don't need this shit that's going on in real world. you all are perves. I don't care.

[whistlingwh0res]

and those you show it on photo. they had plastic surgery. I am not happy with that either.

[DizzyDesii]

Holy smokes its sad how Emma and Elle look convincing af. How tf people posed to know if no one ever tell em 💀 I feel sorry for dudes havin to figure this shit out

[Curmudgeon]

It's a scary world out there, particularly in certain locations (e. g., Greater San Francisco area)

[bananathunder]

GEEEEZUS... Emma and Elle would definitely get it. Shit is crazy

[DizzyDesii]

@bananathunder nahh you ain't just say that 🥴

[bananathunder]

haha was a joke :P

[Wraith_Cemetery]

Not that hard to figure it out. I can always tell. There's always something about them that gives it away.

[RoosterBreast]

And you people (one friend whom I'm still trying to convince on this one specifically, @LimitedBenefits101) are telling me that he joked in this video:





https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=clOzz9qARdk

With fucking millions in his pocket? He won't afford to be more feminine?

[RoosterBreast]

Yes, opinion owner blocked one of my 30 accounts in the past for repeatedly transvestigating her favourite celebrities. All celebrities are trannies. And highest loominati politicians are all trannies.

[DizzyDesii]

@RoosterBreast if anything i blocked you for spamming not for transvestigating. Plus you had 30’accs which sounds crazy.

@christoff92 Does it make the guy transphobic if he just isn’t gay? Like not all these dudes want kids but they simply aren't into men lmao. You can get surgery or whatever but if he dates someones who was born a male, that would make him gay/bi. It is what it is

[Christoff92]

No transwomen aren't biological women. Their minds and thoughts are women, not theirs physically bodies.

[DizzyDesii]

And my point is that if a man dates anything other than a biological woman, he should be able to admit that he is not straight and is in fact gay/bi or whatever other lgbt letter. It doesn't make the men who don’t want to date a trans, transphobic. It just makes the other men who date them but consider themselves straight appear delusional or in denial

[Christoff92]

No. Didn't say that men who don't want to date transwomen are transphobics. That's a preference. But basically am saying. Can't erase them. They didn't become overnight. They were born like that.

[DizzyDesii]

Br my question is, you called yourself heterosexual/straight but would date a dude who became a woman. That is not “straight” and although I personally don’t care what you choose to deem yourself, I’m just saying that can come across as delusional or in denial.

[RoosterBreast]

@DizzyDesii @christoff92 let's recognize that there are different motivations to fuck.

1) Naturally many people fuck people because of the biological program to spread the seed. Those people are 100% straight and what wokes will call "transphobic."

2) Other people couldn't care less about propagating and are motivated to fuck because it gives them a burst of dopamine and they have nothing better to do in life, and such men would fuck something that has a round ass and long hair despite it being a man, they think as long as it has long hair and a round ass it is feminine and hitting it is straight sex.

As I see it, the first category, those who follow their biology are truly straight. The second category is only half straight, but they require the gay men to dress convincingly as a woman.

[Anonymous]

If a man is dating a transgender woman but only because she looks as woman as possible, I wouldn’t consider that even open to trans dating if she doesn’t tell you she is or you don’t know she is. When a trans lies about being trans then there is a problem. That should always be addressed because even as feminine as a trans person gets, they still have many differences from natural born women.

[Christoff92]

Most likely, they're afraid because what guys think. Because of stereotyping and bigotry 😟

[Opinion Owner]

Heterosexual men have the right to feel how they feel about trans women. While I don’t agree with the brutality of trans women, lying about it is not okay because why would you want to be with a man who would possibly harm or kill you if they found out? Being MTF might not seem like a big deal, but it is, especially if you’re with a man who wants children or if you haven’t even fully transitioned to a woman.

[Christoff92]

Sure, they can. Off course 😀

[Curmudgeon]

@christoff92 If you think biological reality is "bigotry", then you really need to think more and harder.

[Kaamraj]

Nope, because I am only into biological females, and that is more than surgery. Each cell in your body has either XX or XY (except for sperm and eggs). So sex is cell deep. The ultimate goal of attraction or sex is children, and you cannot have children with someone of the same sex.

[b_lova]

No because he can try as hard as he wants but he will never be a woman.

The reality is that men and women think differently. Surgery and hormones don't change how one thinks for the most part and since a relationship should be based upon mental connection rather than a physical one, the way the person thinks is the most important part of the intimacy we will have together.

[BoopBoopBeep]

A fake vagina cannot self-lubricate. If by the time I've found that out we haven't played share time, then I'd be leaving based on my "some stuff you should have shared" rule. That'd be one of them, but I'd be seriously suspect of anyone I date who is ALWAYS reaching for lube or spit.

[Levin]

No, I don't want to date men.

Arrest me. Cause that's probably an arrest-able offense these days.

[lorenzomichael]

ABSOLUTELY NOT. Just because you can teach a parrot to talk, doesn't make it a human. As a kid, I used to dress up like Gene Simmons from kiss every Halloween. As Halloween came and went as the Year's past. Me looking like Gene himself got really good, and I had a good time doing it. However at the end of every holloween I was still Lorenzo.

[Curmudgeon]

But did you "Rock and Roll all Night and party every day"? :D

On that note, did you know that Gene Simmon's day job was a middle school teacher before he broke big, and that he bedded Cher and Diana Ross in their prime before settling down with Shannon Tweed?

[lorenzomichael]

That's right. I think it's cold gin time again.

[RealMarek]

No. The results always seem to enter an “uncanny valley” in which subtle masculine proportions prevent any sort of attraction. I’m super-straight.

[Curmudgeon]

Yep, and to really pull it off would require incredibly drastic and costly medical procedures.

[CoolCatMar1]

The second girl looks so feminine wtf she does not look transgender are u sure she is

[muscles_glasses]

seriously I was thinking the same thing

[Christoff92]

Many transwomen can really have that feminine look depending on their transitioning. It would be encountered 😱😀

[DextroShade]

Absolutely not, I am putting my dick inside a cavity made from a mutilated hollowed-out penis. The fake vagina doesn't even get wet or function like a real one. The idea of it is disgusting 🤢 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[Sabretooth]

Prefer non ops. Aside from them being more exotic... The operation is less than ideal. Not so much in the past, however. I don't see it happening due to a serious heartbreak... But, my feelings have changed. I just don't see myself truly loving anyone with that stain on my heart... I put everything i had in that endeavor.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Not a chance in hell. My penis only goes inside a biological woman.

[Drewtate]

No I don't date guys

[JHNS98]

I've been curious to try it. I even matched with some on dating apps, though conversations never got that far.

I have a very open mind, and if they are a good person, I'm sure that things can happen.

[Jersey2]

No. Its a guy still, no changing that. I want a woman, a real woman.

[RingOfFire]

No. Just because you've surgically altered your genitalia doesn't make you a woman. Your gender is in the chemistry and DNA of every cell in your body and brain and remains the same your entire life. Womens' bodies and brains are different and a man cannot become a woman. I am only attracted to women.

[RingOfFire]

"But transphobia and bigotry is completely unacceptable."

So is transphobiaphobia! Stop hating on transphobics you bigot!

[OnlyMeee]

I think I would yes. It's the person that you fall in love with first and foremost. If there was a connection there, then the rest is just past of if. Whether they had gone through surgery or not would not matter. If I love the person, I love all of them.

[lightbulb27]

like the ultimate deception. a Dr. cut a hole into their body, and this completes them as a woman?

you're a woman or not a woman, sorry... you might feel feminine, but that's different.

No, my mind can't do that.

[richardcory]

No. I think sexuality on place people get to keep their biases. I don't care if anyone else does, but I wouldn't.

[Nick1976G]

I am in a committed relationship with a transgender woman... and it's the happiest relationship I've been in. She is ever bit of woman as any cis woman I've dated.

[Smashingdoozy]

I would and I have dated Trans people. What's between a persons legs doesn't concern me.

[onezipp]

She cute don't matter.. Attracted to her face and personality .. I would never know she trans tell then end it would be like a women dating me and then see I have on panties and then say no... Why? Nothing change tell I took my cloth off

[Paul_in_Indy]

What’s a “transgender woman?” Is that a woman pretending to be a man? or the other way around! I date women…but not women pretending to be men. I definitely do not date men.

[Adam1978]

No I wouldn't. They are all candidates for Darwin awards. Butchering your own body isn't a healthy mindset. And they will never have a real pussy.

[DreamLife7]

Amen!!

[FunkyMonkee]

Sure. As a friend. If she wants to try to fuck me, we can probably give that a shot. If she can't have kids, there's just no point in my wasting my time dating her.

[BCA6010]

No.

Curmudgeon already explained why in better detail than I'm willing to.

[nik0102]

oh yes, especially Adea and Emma Ellingsen are absolute goddesses

[Spongebobssocks]

No i'm straight so they are men but i prefer masculine men who know they are men..

[Spongebobssocks]

lol i realized the question was for men but i still answered

[Wonderingguyy]

I would like to think I could, but in reality I would probably not be able to fully enjoy it or get past it.

[jeffend888]

No I would not. That doesn’t make me a transphobe or anti-trans.

[Anonymous]

Yes, if she's passable and attractive I would. Even before the gender affirmation surgery.

[natedawg0620]

If you want kids you'll have to find a surrogate or adopt. Just know that when you hit it, you're putting your dick inside her dick…

[Anonymous]

If you would date a dude (xy) them you are not straight.

[Anonymous]

Yes. I'm pansexual and care more about you as a person than about your genitals. I'm currently dating a transgender woman.

[MountAverage]

What do you mean "even if"? That seems like the wrong phrasing for what you're asking.

[Anonymous]

I was born a female and not transgender and I’m only interested in dating people who are born male and still identify themselves as male.

[Sharkstealth]

Yuck gross eewww sickly is all I have to say. Look at all the women saying yes.

[Lokiion]

No I wouldn’t imagine doing that nor would I want to do that regardless of how they looked

[Anonymous]

It is not transphobic to say I'm not attracted to men who try to pass as women.

[more_than_a_guy]

Personally no, still xy chromosome and no female reproductive organs.

[zagor]

Might take a BJ but I don't think I would be interested in a LTR.

[blueonblack22]

No and fuck no.

[Anonymous]

No but I still support their right to express themselves the way they want, as long as they respect the opinions of others like I respect them.

[LimitedBenefits101]

Just say you want a man pretending to be a woman.

[Sour-rose]

Okay, imagined... Now what?

[gorydetails]

I'm not gay, so no sex with men.

[blissinanarchy1]

A mutilated man is still a man. No.

[danilocandell]

Not me, it's not my style, I prefer to date women who have been women since birth. No offense

[Anonymous]

No matter how feminine she is, if she’s not female from birth we can’t be more than friends.

[WhitneySnow]

That’s awesome

[Anonymous]

If people want to be trans go for it that’s them but I personally would not be with them sorry we could be friends though

[Anonymous]

Nah. There are plenty of no-op natural women to choose from.