Why do people think that if a guy has never had a girlfriend, that he must be a bad person who deserves it?

[Anonymous]

Whenever a guy wants to talk about his dating failures and how he has no success with women that he must have a shitty personality or he must not be a good person so people will justify it and say he deserves it. This is part of the just world fallacy. Implying that the universe always rewards good people and always punishes bad people. Are there not toxic and bad men in relationships right now as we speak?

[Oliverlogan263]

Dude, I know what you mean. It's totally not fair to assume a guy is a bad dude just because he hasn't had much dating luck yet. Like you said, there's definitely toxic people out there in relationships all the time.

A few reasons why some guys might struggle through no fault of their own:

- Looks - Unfortunately looks do matter to a lot of girls at first. If a guy isn't super handsome, it can make things harder even if he's awesome.

- Confidence - Shy or anxious guys have it rough putting themselves out there, even if inside they're cool people. Takes practice to feel comfortable flirting.

- Timing - Sometimes you just haven't met the right girl who's into you yet. Dating involves some luck meeting someone you vibe with.

- Focusing on himself - Could be prioritizing education, hobbies, career over chasing girls 24/7. Nothing wrong with having your shit together first.

- Social circle - Harder if you don't party or do activities where you meet new people regularly. Need opportunities to connect.

So long as a dude isn't an actual creep or jerk, I don't think it's right to assume he "deserves" to be single. Just means he hasn't found his person yet. Don't be too hard on yourself man - your time will come if you keep putting good vibes out there!

[LazerBean]

@Oliverlogan263 do you think a man is a creepor a jerk if he tells woman that when they get raped it's their fault?

[Posithink]

@LazerBean ever heard of chatgpt?

[LazerBean]

Sure, why?

[Posithink]

@LazerBean someone made 100% of his opinions and replies using it without any additional trolling prompts. Guess who it is?

[LazerBean]

Sad, I just had a look at his profile

[Asker]

@LazerBean Rape is not their fault. I was making a point. You won't blame a woman for being raped which i think most normal functioning people wouldn't but you'll blame a guy for being a failure with women. How would you know the guy hadn't tried? How would you know he's a bad person on just that basis alone?

[ManOnFire]

I don't think they necessarily think he deserves it, but they do judge a guy a lot for it. Men will be cruel towards other men for their singleness or 'not having success,' and women also will think something is wrong with him. But remember that women want men to feel bad about themselves, hopeless, and powerless about dating and even sex.

[Xoxocutekitty]

As someone who would hesitate to date a guy who's never had a girlfriend, I can confidently say it's not that I would think he's a bad person, I would worry that he just wants to "learn and explore what he likes" rather than "build and provide for our future."

It's a perfectly normal desire to want to explore what you like and experiment with things you've never tried before. It is however, a completely different mindset to know you're ready to be a husband and commit to building that life with someone else.

Imagine flying into a new city/country and committing to never travelling again. Sure, you can be occupied for 1-2 years having fun, getting to know the land, but how many people are ready to start a family there? It's not impossible, but most people don't really think that far when they're just so excited to be somewhere for the first time.

[kylee2437]

It’s not that he had never had a girlfriend that makes him a failure, it’s the fact that men always blame women for that when in fact typically those men have red flags regardless. I know someone like this and meanwhile he has a girlfriend, the reason why he can’t keep women around is because he’s unkept, out of shape, comfortable with an unprogressive job, and because of that he lives with his parents that don’t keep their house tidy. It’s a red flag

[kylee2437]

He has had a girlfriend*

[Asker]

Yet there are thugs and men who are fucking losers committing crimes and bouncing from one woman to the other, thriving in the dating world. Piece of shit people can still succeed in life

[kylee2437]

And? Men crying about this stuff is the funniest thing ever forever

[Asker]

Just pointing out the fualty logic people have with good being rewarded and bad being punished

[kylee2437]

Are you going to now cry about life not being fair?

[Asker]

Women - the empathetic gender 👌

[kylee2437]

Feeling bad for men that aren’t problem solvers is not my thing

[Asker]

You dont feel bad for men at all

[Asker]

Which is fine

[JHAYES317]

If a woman won’t date a guy because of an unprogressive job, that’s ridiculous

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 lack of goals is definitely a good reason not to date someone

[JHAYES317]

Just because you aren’t ambitious or a workaholic doesn’t mean you don’t have goals.

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 you can be a workaholic and still have an unprogressive job

[JHAYES317]

The job market sucks and some people don’t have work experience…I would never date a woman based on her job unless we were actively trying to get married and have kids. Because any woman expecting me to pay for everything is not a woman I want to date. I view relationships as equal partnerships.

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 I’m aware men have different expectations for women, doesn’t mean what I said is any less of a turn off for women

[JHAYES317]

Speak for yourself. I would never want to date a woman who would dump me if I lost my job…

[Juxtapose]

@JHAYES317 in my opinion "I want a man with ambition" is usually code for: "I am a joyless person who wants a man as a vehicle for a lifestyle and I don't know how to not be materialistic."

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 being upset that the shoe fits doesn’t change what many women look for. If you wanted kids and I told you I didn’t want to care for children, that wouldn’t be a red flag?

[kylee2437]

@Juxtapose or I want a man that can cater to a family. Same applies here, if you want kids and a woman can’t provide that, why isn’t that a red flag for you?

[kylee2437]

I mean none the less, it’s not unusual low quality men having low quality standards

[DarkLegacy]

men who go around committing crimes and women going with them are of the lowest quality ever, why do you think that criticizing such creatures is funny then.

[kylee2437]

@DarkLegacy personally idc what other women choose to do. I’m just pointing out why these kind of men don’t get picked. Men that don’t go out looking for someone to date most likely have their own issues that aren’t allowing them to do so

[JHAYES317]

Maybe viewing men who don’t fit your preference as “low quality men” is the problem.

[DarkLegacy]

@JHAYES317 Yes you re right this ' high quality' or 'low quality' stinks of neanderthal.

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 maybe arguing my preferences and suggestions says something about yourself? I mean really though , you are trying to argue about things that normal people would suggest is low quality, and then trying to project anything about women going for criminals meanwhile continuing to say low quality women go for criminals. So if those women are so low quality, why do you even care? Projection

[Cyrius]

Just run your own race instead of looking at other athletes. These loosers obviously have qualities that self victimized men don't.

Confidence, looks, strong dick game... crying about it just says a lot about you

[JHAYES317]

A low quality woman is someone who cheats on her man, who lacks empathy for men’s struggles, or has naked photos/videos of her online. I’d view a woman working at McDonalds as higher quality than an escort or stripper, even though the latter make way more money…

[kylee2437]

@Cyrius exactly my point. The crying like insane

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 again that resorts from men having overall different standards. That still doesn’t change the FACT that you are literally crying over women you consider low quality to begin with. What did I say again about men rarely looking inward

[Asker]

Crying is subjective here. You just don't like what's being said so its considered whining to you

[JHAYES317]

No it’s because women have too high standards…like needing a guy to have a big dick, tall, full head of hair, and rich…

[kylee2437]

@asker more like you don’t like the fact that women aren’t directly aiming your way , as if waiting around for women works to begin with

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 that’s weird because there’s men without those qualities in marriages and relationships. More projection of where you choose to spend your time. You are definitely brain washed by the internet

[Billlewis]

Yes, ma'am, I just started following you, and I'd be honored if you'd like to follow me, as well. Why? Because I love your style;). Thank you very much.

[JHAYES317]

Yes but the women they are married to aren’t conventionally attractive…

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 says who? Sounds like you are making up things to cater to an argument that doesn’t make sense. If that’s you in your profile , you are semi attractive so it’s a red flag that you are contributing to this convo. Seems like you aren’t looking inward enough

[JHAYES317]

Semi attractive? What does that even mean…and how does my appearance affect me contributing to this convo or not?

[kylee2437]

@jhayes it specifys you most definitely have deeper issues you aren’t addressing

[JHAYES317]

No I don’t. I’m short and socially awkward…that’s pretty much why most of my rejections happen.

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 being socially awkward usually leads to other issues that make you unreliable for a quality relationship. You are just throwing short in the category to throw off actual issues of yourself once again. I’m pretty short myself and have dated men 5’6. I don’t really see height as an excuse. That’s literally a social media standard at best

[kylee2437]

And you have asked questions involving this topic for you , even other MEN have called you out on your non sense and you still refuse to even listen to their advice clearly

[JHAYES317]

I’m slightly neurodivergent…so I can’t exactly not be socially awkward…it’s not in my control. And I literally haven’t gotten any matches on OLD which personality plays no part in…that’s solely looks + height…so clearly most women either care a lot about height or I’m ugly…

[kylee2437]

@jhayes actually you can work on awkwardness but pointing blame at superficial qualities is easier than putting in the work.

[JHAYES317]

Working on awkwardness wouldn’t make me taller or good looking…which is what matters for dating apps

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 working on awkwardness would get you to think dating apps are repulsive to begin with when you actually want to seriously date. Don’t shoot the messenger

[JHAYES317]

But don’t dating apps just prove that I’m not conventionally attractive and that any woman would settling for me? So what’d be the point? I don’t want to date someone who just likes my personality but finds me repulsive to look at…

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 dating apps hold bottom barrel personalitied people there.

[JHAYES317]

Lol I’ve literally met girls at clubs who said they wouldn’t be talking to me if I was ugly, yet still rejected me for being short after their friends peer pressured them. I was used for a free night out by a girl who thought she was entitled to only date models when she herself looked like a soccer mom and I’ve gotten girls numbers at bars only for them to ghost me completely. Trust me, in person people ain’t any better

[kylee2437]

So you don’t think it’s a red Flag that your only two sources of dating is through dating apps and the bar?

[JHAYES317]

No, I’m a rock musician and an actor…the only places I go for the most part are clubs and bars…

[Asker]

They don't aim most men way in genenal. Hoeflation is on the rise

[kylee2437]

@asker blaming women for your own failures is definitely working for you it looks like

[Cyrius]

@JHAYES317 it's this comment that's unsettling...

[Cyrius]

@JHAYES317 well don't use dating apps. if Brad Pitt acted awkward he wouldn't be Brad Pitt. he would just be labelled a nerd with good potential at best

[Cyrius]

@JHAYES317 ask someone to film your interactions with girls and let us watch it. i'm 100% positive that it must be painful to watch and has nothing to do with your height

[JHAYES317]

@Cyrius that wouldn’t explain my lack of success at getting matches on dating apps…

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 have you ever figured that maybe girls scroll by your account because you present yourself as boring?

[Cyrius]

@JHAYES317 your face screams " please I need love, I want a woman any woman I love to love" it looks soft and love.. you don't look repulsive.

[Asker]

No one is blaming women

[Asker]

@JHAYES317 There's always the passport option man. a lot of men leave the west to find women in other countries and some of them have success

[JHAYES317]

@kylee2437 I’m the lead singer of a rock band and an actor…I also do extreme sports…if they think I’m boring then they have a weird perception of what boring is

[JHAYES317]

@Cyrius I’m not abandoning my career here just to due women having a height fetish, that’d be idiotic as fuck.

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 your hobbies don’t necessarily make up for what you bring to the table when it comes to dating.

[JHAYES317]

Those aren’t my hobbies two of those I do professionally, the extreme sports thing yeah that’s a hobby fair. But if work/hobbies don’t matter, then how come guys who get super rich score hot women?

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 because they again are providing something you aren’t. Now we have tipped the scale from talking about criminals that get women to rich men that get women.

[Asker]

@JHAYES317 Just do the passport route. But if you're gonna find a woman in another country, dont bring her back here

[JHAYES317]

@kylee2437 lol so it’s not that I’m not interesting…it’s that I’m not rich enough lol?

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 if you don’t get it now, you never will. Your interests don’t account for what kind of entertainment you bring to a relationship

[JHAYES317]

Well you clearly want a rich guy and that’s fine but I don’t want a girl who would dump me if I went broke so clearly we aren’t looking for the same people

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 actually I don’t want a rich guy, I want a guy that can contribute to having a family with me. That takes two financially stable people, yes. And I never said I wanted you ☺️

[JHAYES317]

It depends…are you trying to get married and have kids in the next couple years? If that’s the case, then finding someone financially stable makes sense. But if not, and it’s like 5 - 10 years down the line, then that’d be silly to require that.

[kylee2437]

@JHAYES317 I’m 26 lol my time to find someone serious has officially started.

[JHAYES317]

I’m 25 and don’t want to have kids till at least my 30s…but I guess I’m a guy so it’s different.

[Juxtapose]

So poor people shouldn't reproduce?

[kylee2437]

@Juxtapose not if they are in a position where their parenting style becomes relatively abusive (people with addictions)

[Juxtapose]

Well that goes for the rich too.

[kylee2437]

@Juxtapose right however I grew up in a house hold where addiction made it hard for a parent to step up and I’d rather not repeat that process by allowing someone not in tune with being financially stable to bring that into my life once again.

[Juxtapose]

There are lots of rich people addicted to drugs so your mileage may vary. Alcoholism is common and among the Wall Street guys they really like Coke.

[kylee2437]

@Juxtapose there’s a difference between rich and financially stable. If I meet a guy with a decent but not rich income with the expectation of him being financially stable, that doesn’t mean he needs to be rich. I’m not quite sure where you got me wanting a rich man from.

[Juxtapose]

I bring that up to show you that wealth does not shield somebody from addiction.

[kylee2437]

@Juxtapose but I’m not talking about wealth, I’m talking about someone’s ability to be responsible

[Juxtapose]

My grandparents had to hunt to feed their family and now they are prosperous.

[kylee2437]

@Juxtapose again I’m talking about responsibility, not wealth

[Juxtapose]

Then I guess it doesn't matter if they are rich or poor to you?

[kylee2437]

@Juxtapose if a man can still be financially responsible while not having a lot of money, sure. I’m not dating someone that is poor because they decided that financially instability to keep their habit intact is beneficial. People like that don’t deserve life partners

[Juxtapose]

That's pretty fair in my eyes. Who wants to be with someone who can't have basic responsibility, especially because of transient pleasure (drugs)?

I misjudged you and feel I owe you an apology for being somewhat rude. You articulate yourself well.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

They don’t think he is a bad person, they think he is a boring person. :)

[Asker]

How do you know that?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Listen, don’t try to make women pity men… If pity worked, all the homeless would be having children… Women don’t like men they pity, it is short-lived, so whoever you are complaining to - Stop that complaining or at least, restrict it.

[Asker]

Women don't pity men in genenal so im not trying to make women pity men especially in the dating world. But this just world fallacy belief people have is interesting

[blueonblack22]

There used to be a lot harsher judgment about this 10+ years ago. However singlehood rates are skyrocketing now. 63% of men 19-30 are reportedly single. I think some people are finally waking up to the fact there are bigger issues beyond what the man can control when it comes to this.

With that said it is true that many people harshly and very cruelly judge men on this vs. single women. It’s always assumed the man must be single because he lacks something and he deserves it or something. But if a woman is single it’s because she’s “strong and independent”.

If a good looking man is single the judgment can be even more cruel. Like he is “secretly gay” or some bullshit.

Anyway there is an old saying that “what other people think about you is none of your business”. So f*ck what other people think about. And you can also tell them to go f*ck themselves if they judge you otherwise.

You are the CEO of your life. You can choose who you hire and fire when it comes to who you associate with. So don’t waste your time associating with people who antagonize you. If you can’t get rid of them (e. g. family) then call them out on it and tell them to shut up and mind their own business.

That doesn’t mean you should give up on dating and swear women off of course. You still need to look for opportunities. But if you are going to date then date for you and not to impress other people.

[DarkWinterNights]

Have people told you this in person or is it something you’ve read/seen on the internet? Everything is a red flag on the internet.


There’s a guy making a running list of “do nots” that he picks up from dating podcasts and on the street interviews and he thousands at this point, including things like: “having friends”, “not having friends” and dumb stuff like protecting your face from getting hit and using your blinker when driving.


Society is quickly going off the deep end of insanity. If someone’s going to judge you for something like not prioritizing getting into a relationship in this modern dating scene, then forget about them. Their opinion is just that, an opinion.

[LazerBean]

Because generally, Chthou95, people understand that peoples choices strongly influence their outcomes. But I doubt you're any more eager than last time to accept responsibility and control over your life.

[Asker]

If a girl was raped, then it was her fault

[LazerBean]

😂😂😂😂

[Unit1]

No wonder he asks. All is clear now.

[Asker]

Obviously i don't think that. Most women who get raped aren't at fault. But why can't it also be the case for men who dont anywhere in the dating world? Why do men who fail in the dating world deserve it?

[LazerBean]

No, it's not obvious. From what I've seen, it seems like a pretty common thing for men with your complaints to genuinely believe that. Hopefully I'm wrong about that though.

It's not just a man, anyone who fails at dating is generally responsible for their failure. Here's an example. I had a close friend who was a failure at dating. Attractive, great personality, conservative, pretty much everything a conservative man would want. But she just did one thing that 100% thwarted her success. That was, when she was in her early twenties she didn't feel ready to date, and when she got into her mid twenties she was no longer getting out enough to meet people to date. Obvious solution: get out more or try on light dating. Myself and a bunch of people gave her that advice for years, and she never took it. Then one day she gets desperate and decides to take everyone's advice, and you know what? She found an amazing guy within a month and they are still together and will probably be getting married this year.

Every single case I know of someone who can't get a date, there is at least one really obvious problem with them that is screwing them up. And most of them absolutely will not take any advice, but TBH all those problems are something that anyone with half a whole cell would be able to figure out themselves if they really wanted to. And that's their fault.

[LazerBean]

Also let me clarify that I don't think a man who is a failure at dating is necessarily a bad person. Just that he doesn't meet the standards of the women he is shooting for, and therefore does not deserve them.

[Asker]

Women don't want men on their level though. Women date up, not down. And then there's Hoeflation. Men have to work 10× harder than their grandfathers for women who are 20× than their grandmothers

[Asker]

I don't believe most rape victims are responsible for their outcome. Nor do i believe that a lot of men are responsible for their outcome in the dating world. Some men really do just get unlucky in the dating world and a lot of them try but still fail. Besides death and taxes, there are no guarantees in life. Love and relationships are not a gurantee for everyone. If you think that everyone has an equal chance, you've been watching too many Disney movies

[LazerBean]

Well there you go, you fit my description and expectations perfectly

[Asker]

How do i fit your description? Are you a therapists trying to diciper a random person's characteristics online?

[Paul09]

I haven't had a girlfriend since I was a young adult... FML. But I know that I'm part of the problem. I can't talk to strangers for sh&t. I don't have the charisma to impress. I've also been in Situations where I like her, she doesn't like me. Or she likes me , I don't like her. I try to be a good person and that's that. Maybe I would of had more chances that I had no I idea that I had. Now people are very picky.

[Billlewis]

I don't think he's a bad guy, but I *know* he's a very frustrated guy, and probably masturbates dozens of times every week... oh, wait -- that's me... lol

[DarkLegacy]

Only women think this it is usually because they know the guy has Autism or learning disabilities and modern women have a profound hatred towards such guys whilst banging the equality drum. Oops looks like im getting another comment removed.

[Peridot25]

What women have you met who actually think that way? 🤨

[DarkLegacy]

@Peridot25 Practically every modern woman i have had the misfortune of coming across

[Peridot25]

How did you meet these women?

[DarkLegacy]

@Peridot25 Don't think that is relevant.

[Peridot25]

I’m just curious how heard them say these things. Like, do you hang out with them? Go on dates? Or do you just overhear them talking when you’re out in public?

[Peridot25]

I do agree women these days are cruel but, to be honest, that seems a bit far fetched.’

[DarkLegacy]

@Peridot25 All of the above and online also.

[Kelley1]

Not a bad person; just not attractive for any girl to be interested.

[Asker]

And that's fine. Some people get lucky, others don't. That's life

[kylee2437]

@asker love doesn’t come from luck, it comes from effort. Stop with the guilt tripping replies

[Kelley1]

@kylee2437 Effort doesn't do any good if you are not lucky enough to be born with what it takes. You should stop living in a fantasy world. That is the only advise I will give you.

[kylee2437]

@Kelley1 living in a fantasy world is thinking luck and wishing brings you what you want in life. People that actually want things take action, but nice try there.

[Asker]

@kylee2437 You're really delusional if you dont think luck plays a factor. Especially in the dating world

[DarkLegacy]

@Kelley1 And you are single and immature going by your comment. You are also unattractive, and how do you know he is when you cannot see his pic.

[kylee2437]

@asker or I’m realistic. You think people stay married and together for years out of luck? Thats silly. Go ask a long term couple how they got there in the first place. They have probably argued millions of times to get there

[Asker]

@kylee2437 Divorce rates aren't doing too good. The small minority who are doing well got lucky. And its mostly the older people who have succesful marriages

[kylee2437]

@asker we aren’t talking about failed relationships, we are talking about successful relationships. Failed relationships are from people that stopping trying and putting in effort. It’s such a selfish mindset to say anything besides the lottery from luck. If you feel regular life things are from luck, you definitely need to look inward.

[Asker]

@kylee2437 You dont believe luck plays a factor in life? You really think we control everything that happens? You believe that everything is just in life?

[kylee2437]

@asker yeah no. If a relationship between two people involves luck, then one of us is secretly a magician or something. Relationships involves two people putting effort for each other. Once of them stops putting in effort, that’s when relationships start going to shit.

The biggest way to accomplish absolutely nothing in life is sitting there wishing things would just happen

[Asker]

@kylee2437 You can put in a lot of effort and still fail. There are no guarantees

[Kelley1]

@Asker, Early on I realized that facts don't matter to @kylee2437. She just wants to win an argument. According to her, if he puts up enough effort, a guy born with Downs Syndrome can win a beautiful girlfriend over a lucky guy that inherits the looks and intelligence of his rich movie star parents. It is a waste of time to argue with such people.

[kylee2437]

@Kelley1 if facts matter to you, then what’s the fact behind the idea of luck? And if we are going with facts, Down syndrome men typically don’t get “beautiful normal girlfriends” nice try again

[kylee2437]

@asker if you put in a lot of effort in and still fail, chances are one of the two people weren’t trying. It’s very simple.

[kylee2437]

Keep letting @Kelley1 feed you unrealistic scenarios though. She seems really good at letting people live in delulu

[Asker]

@kylee2437 If i train hard enough in boxing, i can beat Mike Tyson in a ring

[kylee2437]

@asker yep that’s how people most end up being good at what they do.

[Asker]

@kylee2437 You seriously think that with enough boxing traning i could beat Mike tyson?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[kylee2437]

@asker Mike Tyson is literally a human being like everyone else in the world. Society allowed you to put people on a pedestal. Yes with enough training similar to Mike Tyson’s , someone can definitely beat him. You think he came out of his mother’s womb knocking out people?

[kylee2437]

And he’s almost 60 years of age on top of all of that. Actually I’m sure people with even less training than him can now knock him out

[Asker]

@kylee2437 This is very delusional. This isn't even being realistic at this point. You're arguing in bad faith now

[kylee2437]

@asker yeah it’s unrealistic for you because you would NEVER put in that kind of effort to begin with. Same applies for love and the reason why so many men have such horrible “luck” with love. y'all put in absolutely zero effort starting with your own selves

[Asker]

@kylee2437 Nobody on this site can beat Mike tyson. No matter how hard they train. You get punched by him, will put you in either the hospital or you'll die

[DarkLegacy]

@kylee2437 OMG what an argument that goes from one to the next, let us settle down to what you originally complained about which is that most women under 40 are just shitty people. @Kelley1 is prove of that.

[Posithink]

I don't think like that. I just think RILFs are still hot, so who knows what you look like behind the screen.

[normalice]

I've never met anyone who thinks that. Like... ever.

[Anonymous]

Literally NO ONE thinks that. Like NO ONE at all. If a guy has never had a girlfriend most people figure he's either gay or an epic loser. Neither one makes him a bad person.

[Asker]

"Literally no at. all" speak for yourself. Plenty of people think that way and a lot are unaware they do it

[Opinion Owner]

I stand by my statement. LITERALLY no human being thinks or has ever thought that.

[Asker]

How do you know?

[LiamJHayden]

Who thinks that? I have never heard that in real life.

[sheikalana]

I don't think that.

[DreamLife7]

Why do u care? Grow up

[Asker]

Why dont you care?

[DreamLife7]

You're insecure insecurity is a turn off to women. That's your main problem amongst other things

[Asker]

This isn't about me. Im talking the general consensus where men who aren't having success are seen as bad people

[DreamLife7]

Who cares about everyone else lol 😆

[Asker]

This has nothing to do with me. Move along now

[DreamLife7]

You need therapy

[Asker]

a lot of therapists need therapy

[888theGreat]

They just think he is gay

[Anonymous]

Yep another reminder how my mindset has changed