Is dating downhill for women after age 30?

[Anonymous]

Is dating, online dating, and the dating pool in general horrible for women after 30? I've met many women over 30 and they all say the same thing, and a lot of them end up alone.

[Levin]

Dating can be challenging as you get a little older, as it seems that anyone 'eligible' is actually, taken. People who are partnered up generally don't want to go out as much as they'd rather just be with their partner.

Dating may well go downhill for women over 30. But I doubt they fall into some big vacuum. Things perhaps level off more.

Women are valued in their 20s 10 times more than men. It's a horrible imbalance. But dating apps in particular are so distorted and are so flooded with weak and desperate males, that it does still appear to give some distortion where from what I have seen, a very average woman in her 30s would still get 100x the attention of a male that age.

As for in real life, things may well level off more a bit.

It probably depends on quality. Tacky shags are one thing. But attracting a quality mate with a tolerable level of 'baggage' is another.

[WindAtMyBack]

At 30, age alone should be very little problem. I hate to be harsh, but realistically, how many of those women have let themselves go? How many have put on large amounts of weight? How many are totally out of shape? How many are divorced or had a bad relationship, and now they are bitter?

A 30 year old woman who has kept herself healthy, both physically and mentally, and has a good pleasant attitude, should not have any problem in the dating world. And of course she has to put herself out there. By that age, most people are not as social, and not around nearly as many people in a social non-work setting.

How have their own expectations changed? Most likely they are looking for something very different than they were at 20.

Assuming that it's because of age is jumping to conclusions.

[Seinna]

Yes, I think so... not from experience, but logically that would make sense. One reason is that men prefer younger women, but another is that the best men are taken by their mid 30s and what you're left with... well, there are some hidden gems but probably most of them are single for a reason. Same can be with women, but it's easier for men to date younger than for women. Some women are also unwilling to do it.

[handsomelad70]

I don't think so, but women, who have a larger choice in men before 30-35, may see their options shrink as soon as their looks deteriorate.

[Alwayreckles93]

Typical Millenial assumptions. That is the dumb question I've seen. Why do you millenial men always give woman in their 20s the VIP special reament? A woman my age has it all wealth stable financially life maturity. Why do yo millenial ma just don't care?

[Asker]

because thats not all it takes to keep a relationship going. A lot of women in their 30s are bitter, jaded, and project all of their previous relationships faults onto the next guy

[Alwayreckles93]

Your a judgmental Karen guy. We are not bitter we are sweet kind loving 30 year old cute humans. But you millenial men are way to blind to realized it.

[Asker]

my ex was 34, 3 years older than me. I didn't care that she was older. The relationship eventually broke down when she kept bringing baggage from her ex into the relationship, onto me. Just because her ex mistreated her doesn't mean i was going to. She didn't care.

[Lynx122]

Men don't care about your wealth. You're 31 and you haven't learned that yet?

[Inbox]

@Lynx122 She won't ever learn this truth - even though I told her this truth 6 months ago. The blockhead refuses to understand that men and women want different things in their partner.

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox For your information one of my friends she is 48 but people always tell her that she looks 21 . In your face my friend always gets carded and 30 year olds are always asking my friend out. She your comment is irrelevant.

[Inbox]

@alwayreckles93 Oh, my heart is bleeding, the loss it hurts soooo much! Sooo much so, that clearly you haven’t learned how to read between the lines! Dating isn’t a linear science, it’s abstract. One case or even just the few that are exceptions doesn’t mean it will be in favor - it’s all about playing the odds…. Yet another sign of inexperience from a “wealth and successful” woman 😂😂

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox At least I can provide a home unlike younger woman depending on mommy and daddy. Younger woman only want your wallet. Fat boy!

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox You can't seem the handle criticism. So you thow name calling themper tantrum like a 17 year old child grow up. Do you need a wrinkle lotion treatment? I can get you onenof my Mary Kay besties to send you an anti wrinkle face treatenmt set. Mr Karen!

[Inbox]

Awwww! Does that make you feel tough business lady? I don’t need your 1 bedroom house in the hood. I pay my own way because there’s nothing free in this world.

I’ve dated younger girls and she actually didn’t like it when I would offer to pay because she also believed in making her own way - in your face my friend! 🤣🤣🤣

How did you go from criticism to getting wrinkle lotion? Get help lady.

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox WHO ARE YOU CALLING BLOCKHEAD?😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😠😠😠😠😠

[Inbox]

@alwayreckles93 You can't seem to handle the criticism. LOL

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox AND ARE YOU DATING YOUNGER WOMAN?😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 I DON'T LIKENTHIS AT ALL. EXPLAIN TO ME WHY AREN'T DATING WOMAN YOUR OWN AGE? nice try I live in 6 bedroom brand new home I desing and requested to build and everything is cintr with wifi. Dumbo ! And I dont live in the hood Its in a gated community dumbo face!

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox I DON'T WANT YOU DATING YOUNGER WOMAN!🤬😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡😡

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox well becaue you arebold you do need a anti wrinkle lotion face cream ficial set.

[Inbox]

@alwayreckles93 I JUST wrote that I have and we both @Lynx122 and myself JUST explained why we do - do you have ADHD or something?

It's my body, my choice Ms. 6 bedroom wealthy little girl LOL

I'm impressed you Wifi installed - does it come with AC? LMFAO

Is it because I'm bold or old I need anti-wrinkle lotion? Somebody needs to go back to English class. After all, I'm sure you can afford it your highness.

[Inbox]

*you have Wifi

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox FYI it's none ofnyour business if I have ADHD. Ok! I am veryangry at you because you actually went out for lunch with a younger woma. Instead maybe you should booked an appointment botoxed for yourself and or get anti wrinkle. See my picture I don't have no wrinkles. People always think I'm 18m

[Alwayreckles93]

People think I am 18 years old.

[Inbox]

@alwayreckles93 I have a younger guy for you! He says he's into old women. Hahaha. Well, let's just say beauty is in the eye of the beholder! LOL 18 year old folks aren't plump, I'm terribly sorry, now go back and run along to your 6 bedroom home with Wifi. Mmmmkay?

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡 I'm NOT Old! I also am a teacher at my local chruch I teach bible studies to people who want to become Christian andbget baptist unlike that ugly chubby younger woman you invited to lunch. Why did you invite her? All younger woman can't handle responsibility and most younger woman now a days are not christians. Dummy!

[Inbox]

@alwayreckles93 Oh, so you can stereotype, but I can't? Typical millennial assumptions ahahaha. I never invited her to lunch, I invited her to grab a drink - I REALLY hope you get the help you need. Also, she's the kind of girl that ACTUALLY gets male attention, unlike the fat chicken before me. You're like a mosquito buzzing in everyone's ear - annoying as hell, but ultimately insignificant.

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox That is very disrespectful calling that someone fat!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡 you are lucky I wasn't there with that stupid young chick and you. I will had call the cops on you and karen. I call the cops on my 32 year old guy friend when he bought beer for his young girlfriend she is 20vway to young to drink. That young soman you invited drinks she's annoying not me. I am good looking. The one tht beeds help itsbthat young chick you went to grab drinks not me I bet she isn't even christian. If you like my friend she is a pastor and shebis 35 owns a $900,000 manssion and she won't empty your wallet unlike that ugly young chick I bet I look way more cute then your young Karen.

[Inbox]

Listen here, fatty, if you are going THAT far to call the cops on something so insignificant, you are the problem. Also, I never said she was below the age of 21 - thanks for assuming, AGAIN.

You are at BEST a 5 or 6 - I’ve dated models and actual attractive women and trust me, men ain’t turning their heads for you.

Apparently, you don’t know how to read English as I told you she never took a cent from me - I was the one offering and who the fuck are you to tell me what to like or not like? You sound just like a whiny Feminist trying to impose your totalitarian beliefs on other countries - oh wait, you’re Christian extremist.

Something for you from the bottom of my heart:

Arkham Asylum
1 - 800 - Walking Red - Flags

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox YOU DATED MODELS?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah oh and I am Bill Gates Daughter.
I do turn heads a 25 year old giy give me a high five and told me I am rocking my good fashion style. Nice try dumb and STOP CALLING ME FATTY! You what would be agood match for you? A successful rich 50 year old woman. Since you oy want to date suggar babies. I am a good christian my favorite aunt mentors me she's been in the chruch ever since she was in college I was 6 years old when my aunt started teaching me the bibke I am glad she's a great rolemodel. At her age of 48 sheblooks like an 18 year old IN YOUR FACE SHE LOOKS BETTER THEN THE UGLY YOUNG MODELSNYOU DATED! I am glad my aunt trained me to NOT ALLOWED PEOPLE BREAK HE RULES Do wHAT IS RIGHT! DUMB UGLY DUDES LIKE YOU I BET YOU PUT SPELLS ON THOSE YOUNGER WOMAN. Where doesntht younger woman work at STARBUCKS?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 . AND STOP CALLING ME FATTY 😡😡😡 . A younger woman habe no remurse younger woman do not go to church yet dumbos like you are dating younger woman. How come you men dont date a christian woman whos your same age. I don't see mn your age at church its always woman my age or older who actually are gokd christian and put so uch efgort in the church while you dumbos are chasing after ugly dreadful younger woman who can't even cook a fresh meal. Younger woman are not even traditional woman. They soun stupid uh I want to travel. Oh your younger woman date pay for her own drink with what? Taking pictures in a bikini showing off her skin now that is a sin. You dated model I don't like models. Models take pictures wearing with bikinis showing off their butty and body NOW YOU TELL ME IS THAT THE WOMAN YOU WANT AS A WIFE? YOU WANT A NIN CHRISTIAN YOUNG WOMAN AS A WIFE? 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox Did that younger woman call the manager at the waiter when youtwo dumbos went out for drinks? See younger woman are nothing but selfish unconsiderate KARENS!

[Inbox]

@alwayreckles93 You better pray to Jesus and hope this isn't your best fatty. Anyway, back on topic. Listen, I understand that there's a 100% chance that your mother gave birth to you at a truck stop which would explain your delusional ways of viewing the world. A 25 year old giving you a high five? I suppose that's quite an achievement for you, which the only inference to come to is that it does NOT happen often HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I mean, with your size... you're pretty hard to miss am I right? LMFAO!!! This must be you:

www.youtube.com/watch

I understand that you have to buy young men simply to keep them around, but unlike you, I don't sell my soul for money - I date who I want to date and no amount of Jesus preaching is going to stop that... Hey, didn't Jesus get mad at the Jews for doing business at his Father's temple? You're not a very good Christian sugar mommy LMFAO!!!

What exact spells do I do? Conversation, leading, building attraction, etc? Yet you want me to be set up with some senile old 50 year old rich woman - I'm totally the one putting a spell on them.

Why don't men date Christian women? Have you looked in the mirror recently? Also, you're a prime example of why religion is dying. Your family tree must be a CIRCLE LOL LOL LOL.

Fatty, I'd rather never date again then date someone with a little bitch ass attitude like yours - you have no money, no family, no friends, and no men in your life if you're reacting to all these truths with such breathtaking insecurities.

Just remember fatty - always be the BIGGER person and walk away HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox STOP CALLING ME FATTY YOUR MOM IS A FATTY. YOU MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENCE DUMMY! I AM NOT A SUGAR MIMMA MY RELIGION DOWS NOT ALLOWED. AND HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECTED ME ! DUMB ASS. I FOLLOW THE RULES. FOR UGLY PEOPLE LIKEBYOU IS THEBREASON WOMAN MAKE COMPLAINE. I AM THE BUGGER PERSON UNLIKE YOU. YOU ARENTHEBPRIME EXAMPLE OF Karen. Again you like being dumb all these young women want from yiu is your wallet hahhahahaha nice try to insult I dont need a men to support me I can support my self. Hey I do donations charaty If you like I will be nice enough and ask one of my friend she is a Mary kay to get a anti-wrinkle facial treatment especially just for you I wll be nice and donate this special anti-wrinkle system lets be honest YOU ARE OLD!

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox Gush you sure have a lot of wrinkles. Me I look 18 people are always telling me I look 18 you on the on the other hand you look 50!

[Inbox]

@alwayreckles93 Aww, are you calling me names? My mom is fat? That's not very Christian like fatty - Jesus doesn't love you. Although, who am I to ignore a sinner, so here's a little something for you, you fat fuck. You are like a mosquito buzzing in everyone's ear - annoying as hell, but ultimately insignificant.

I agree with you 100% - you certainly are the BIGGER person HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh I see now. You're just jealous that all these young girls are getting all the boy's attention, while you still have the laborious task of binge eating to make yourself feel better. No wonder you're so "wealthy" - I guess you had to put all that extra time somewhere to make yourself still unworthy.

You are living proof on why we need testing done before people can have children. The question of course is whether you can see my face through a computer screen with no picture put up? Perhaps Jesus taught you? Oh that's right, he doesn't exist LOL.

Is this truly your best? I suppose that's why men don't trust the pull out method. Please don't breed.

I understand that no man has wanted you, even when you were young, but there's other ways to relieve a broken, insecure, and unworthy soul. Ever try Self-flagellation? It should help with losing those elephant cheeks of yours.

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox Cool story. I bet if I was a young18 year old you be all nice to me. Nice try insulting a good christian woman. Oh you mean catholic Jesus hates me I know. Becuse catholic Jesus isn't the real Jesus. I work for the Original real Christian Jesus. I will call out people. Oh please you have done worst sins then me. You should had been married few years ago. Yet here you are a cougar chasing after younger woman. FYI I have guy friends overbthe age of 45 that they will break your huge NOSE. Jesus does love me. I work for the church. Will you are just being used by these younger woman they love love your wallet not your huge ugly nose. Ibet if you were working ats a cashier these younger woma wouldn't care that you exist. But since they know they ca use you as their atm sure they are all nice to you. YOUR Mommy is a fatty oh no she has deabetes WELL that'swhat happen to your mommy for not hittingthe gym. I will get Exterminator to punch your face he is like my older brother here on this site.

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox Nice try fat guy. I am over 30 I am financially stable and at agebover 30 it is a perfect time for me to adopt babies. To late I got approve at my church threwnabchristian adoption agency. I will be adopting two little baby twins. I will be sings them on Christian School my kids will have a good like. Unlike th stupid young woman yoy date a 20 year old has no business getting prego or having kids they can't provide. Me I make good money. Mr Cougar!

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox Nice try fat guy. My Zumba instructor he is 22 and he wasteaching me some cool hip hop dance moves. See I am still look cute and he tough when he fist met me that I was 21.

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox This Zumba instructorn he is more nice and more respectful then you Mr. COUGAR.

[Inbox]

@alwayreckles93 Why do you have such poor grammar? Don’t they teach you how to write in Church? Oh so there’s different types of Jesesus? So the first one is a cunt, like your mother and the second one is the rapist like your father. I got it.

You know, that older brother of yours that you make love to on this site through Zoom once told me that you said there’s nothing quite like dressing up like a horny priest and inviting little boys back to your place. While you dominate them mercilessly, it’s their screams of hot air pressed against your cheeks that gives you the most excitement. Even fat people have their kicks it seems - even I’m disgusted by such moral depravity.

Such a good Christian woman!

So much so, you have to come on GAG just to prove how desperate you are to prove about your cunt of a religion that murdered millions to spread its ideologies - all hail Jesus!

Sweetheart, men would sooner fuck a dog in the ass then pay any attention to your 18 year old mosquito bites on your chest and wide dried up cavern below. I think the added fat came after all the Botox and surgeries to make you look 45 instead of 65, like anti-wrinkle creams 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox Im repirting you fat ass. Oh you be scare of my brother he is 47 and he will punch you in the face. My dad he is a lawyer and he will sue you. FYI my parents are good christians. My mom is 72 but looks 40 my dad he is 75 and he has been in the law business for decades. I will take pictures of your ridiculously comments and I will print it out and get my dad to track youd9wn and sue you. You just messed with the wrong person. FY I my mom was in her early 40s when she had me I am healthy and perfect. The day when you dienyou will burn in hell

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox Nice try Mr. Monkey old men but my brother he is 47 and he with punch that ugly nose of yours my brother he is super strong that you ugly body will go flying acroos the room

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox AND STOP DATING YOUNGER WOMAN!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[Inbox]

You’re going to sue me? Such a good Christian woman! You don’t know how the law works do you? I suppose all that “wealth” led to such wisdom, Einstein. Tell me fatty, what cause of action would you file the lawsuit under? If your assessment is correct, I’ll gladly submit to your superior murderous Christian ways.

“ threwnabchristian”? Tom Cruise, is that you? Our souls came from the Planet X right or…from the 10th planet of the solar system., @alwayreckles93 ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Your brother is 47? So he’s old, just like someone else hmmm? LOL

So your mom had you when she was underage you mean? 😂😂😂😂😂 What a hyprocrite!
Tell your Zumba instructor that he’s failing his job, the secret to weight loss is actually pretty simple, but it’s expected that fat unworthy people would rely and blame others for not losing weight.

You’re the kind of person that would sue your parents when they forced you to look in the mirror.

I know it sucks to lose, but remember, blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy 😂😂😂

[Alwayreckles93]

@Inbox Oh so your mom give birth to you when she was in highschool lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Well sound like the only woman that will ever love you is your mom who give birth to you at the time when she was 16🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nowonder you are still single at your old age you are so busy taking carebof your mommy who had you so young🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Me I was born to wealthy rich parents ina 1million dollar mansion while you live in a apartment complex with your teenage parents. That you ever say I was born to teenaged parents that is offensive 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬

[Inbox]

Oh I get it now, you're just jealous I have options with the opposite sex, while your 6 bedroom house belongs to your parents while you live in their basement! Your level of insults only come from people that MATTER.

... You're losing it - and I LOVE it. Tell me fatty, did you ever wonder where the Michelin man came from? I think we both do know now LMFAO!!! In all serious though, how do you have a double chin squared? HAHAHAHA

Now that I think about it, I do believe that you do have a 6 bedroom house (owned by your teenage parents - that's what happens when you don't wear protection), why? Every time you walk, there's a 10 on the Richter scale. LOL LOL LOL LOL!!! My friends and I crying right now, they gave you a 3/10. ahahahahahaha

If you look up the word "douche" in the dictionary, you'll find a picture of Hitler, but in that picture, he's holding up a picture of @alwayreckles93! Hehehehehe

[ManOnFire]

You will also hear men over 30 saying how terrible dating is as well. People need to stop ragging on 30+ year-old women and spouting all that "hitting the wall" bullshit. Plenty of women over 30 are still having sex and relationships. Their situations are no worse than 30+ year-old men who struggle with dating too.

[sawno]

The difference is that for men a lot of girls only want to date mature guys which they associate with late 20s and early 30s. Girls like to date a bit older for that reason. If you are 20 and in school you have the same thing, the serious 20s dating pool won't give a damm about you. You can only get girls close or a bit younger to your age. A third of men is still single when they hit 30s in modern society so that doesn't suggest dating after 30 is harder for us (The same barrier exists but since women date older you can place it further away).

[XHopelessRomanticX]

Sometimes I just want to gather everyone together to watch the movie 13 Going on 30 to show that no, life is not over at 30.

Anyone can be “Thirty, flirty and thriving!”

[Avicenna]

"After 30" is a really broad spectrum. There's a big difference between 50 and 35. And it really depends what a woman is looking for. A husband is harder to find, a fling, hookup or friends with benefits, obviously every easy.

[Vesuvius87]

True indeed. Even just a boyfriend is easy to find. He's still getting casual sex but it's more available since many women think it's within commitment but it's not because that's still not a husband. boyfriend is still just dating.

[sawno]

The girls on gag will fight you on this one, but you hear it pretty common that because men date younger and girls date older they hit that wall first. So 30 for them is the end of the primary dating pool, and it makes sense due to the best fertility chances. It usually means children should happen by 35 at least in perception. So would you want to date a girl who is 33 and now you gotta rush the bonding and testing if your compatible in 2 years to have the best chances, or do you date a girl who is 27 so you have a good amount of childless years left before you have to make that decision.

[Alwayreckles93]

30 is not OLD YOU IDIOT! People always tell me I look 19. I bet you look like a 50 year old grandpa. Ty pucal millenial men just continue being mommas little boy instead of putting your girlfriend firs. Idiot.

[Alwayreckles93]

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[Alwayreckles93]

So you seriously believe a 27 yea old. is way better then a 30 yea old dumbass?

[sawno]

I was typing quite a lengthy explanation of the original opinion but decided against it, you aren't interacting with what I said but instead go for the attack so you clearly took this way more personal than I expected someone to take it. But to clarify, I was relaying what I observe in society, and apparently that's not an observation you can handle.

But I think its more interesting to analyze the fact you came at me so hard because I think there's more to it. So its more interesting to look at your own opinion.

1. Typical Millennial assumptions, I am a millennial hearing these things from other millennials in a world where millennial men often only begin having luck in their late 20's / early 30's with their dating life because women date older. We have the reverse of this, to young and you don't matter. And since these men prefer younger women the common matchup is then early 20's with late 20's, or early 30's matching up with late 20's. Just is how it is, thats the primary dating pool with the most/best options available. If you think i'm wrong there proof me wrong, not by yelling but pointing out evidence of women in a different age group having higher quality men available than those in their 20's. Because as far as I have seen your competing with the younger ones.

2. Why do you millennial men always give woman in their 20s the VIP special reament? Its not just looks like I said (Does play a role, men universally find girls who are 24 the most attractive in studies) its the fact you don't have to rush the family stuff so you can build a proper bond and relationship, enjoy her most beautiful years and have a girl who is less likely to be tainted with a bad past.

[sawno]

3. A woman my age has it all wealth stable financially life maturity: We don't care about your wealth. Thats the part the modern women really don't understand. Why do we need your wealth exactly? I have a career to you know? We don't need 2 financial providers, we need someone who can provide in different ways and do the things we aren't doing, you know functional family unit stuff. If I am going to be fulltime at work earning money, I need someone looking after my family. A partner willing to do that is more attractive than a partner who saved up a decent amount of money.

4. Why do yo millenial ma just don't care? Because you're not offering the things that are most attractive to men. You have come at me rude, you have shown your focus is on wealth, and from the looks of it you'd also already have a history with someone else. The last part I personally don't mind, but I know some men object to dating someone who already has children.

Does that mean your age is game over? Absolutely not but its likely limited to late 20's and early 30's as far as the primary pool goes, and then people coming out of failed relationships who are older. Does that mean my next girlfriend will be 26 instead of 32? No because ultimately its about meeting an amazing person and this is all just an analysis over the general advantages / disadvantages age brings in dating. I don't need someone to be 5 years younger than me again, but i'd certainly be open to it. While I am not open to someone 5 years older than me since I consider that a different life stage.

[Nikki1989]

Primary dating pool?
What kind of misguided, delusional BS is this. You obviously don't live in the real world.

[Asker]

you were right man, they mad as hell at you for it. In my experience women over 30 in dating are always jaded, bitter, and no longer have any feminine warmth or innocence, they are just snappy and angry all the time

[sawno]

@Nikki1989 I'm relaying what I hear, if I am wrong feel free to proof me wrong. But not a single anecdotal example some actual sources that debunk what I heard.

[Alwayreckles93]

Asker angry all the time? Excuse you Youare a 30 year old that means you aren't so young any more. What makes you think a woman in her 20s is more better then us successful woma with good income. Im debt free. FYI how dare you say I'm history that is very disrespectful. I just can't stand seeing men my own age dating younger woman. And we are not bitter 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡 oh and FYI a 35 year old woman can loom more cute sexy and a huge income then a 20 year old. Dumbasses chasing after younger woman😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

[sawno]

I rest my case.

[Alwayreckles93]

Asker well guess what? You are history to that beautiful ex girlfriends of your's now!

[Alwayreckles93]

sawno well guess what you are history to all the woman you dated back in highschool! You are old too so dont you dare come at us beautiful successful 30 year old woma complaining that we have nothing to offer when we have way more cash then a 20 year old woman! Dumb

[sawno]

Trough no fault of our own mind you, we left on great terms and never had a fight. It became impossible to remain long distance due to changes in her schedule she could not avoid, and simultaneously it was still impossible for me to move to her due to the ongoing lockdowns at the time. So this may not be the insult you think it is, neither does it hurt the way you hoped it would.

But since you already made a fool of yourself by attacking me like that and the fact you have no arguments like that, I don't see any point in continuing this discussion.

[Alwayreckles93]

Sawno Excuses excuse when a men loves a woman he managed to move maintins ad cross briges. You were just lazy no wnder she broke up with you. What next where are you going to take the 20 year old on a date on her stroller😂 . I don't like what you said and I hate the fact that you insulted 30 year old woman. Goodbye😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😠😠😠 Who wantsbto date a boring individual like you. In fact face it not one single 20 year old woman has ever flirted with you. I am sure a 50 year ld woman would makea lovely soulmate for you !

[Alwayreckles93]

Sawno I never attacked you your commebt is what I find offensive you clealy sad a 27 year old woman is vetter then a woman in her 30s yet you expect me to kiss your ass. Dumb

[Alwayreckles93]

Ass!

[sawno]

Alright, here's the thing. If I want to make you stop spamming insults, I can just block you so if at any point I get tired of the discussion it's fully in my control to make this end. I don't see a need for that though since I don't mind you making a fool of yourself.

But it does make me curious, what's in this for you? Why come at me so hard in general? What anger are you taking out on me exactly? I posted a general statement on what sentiment I see in society and you came at me swinging and now you're just trying to make shit up hoping it's true and I get offended by it.

Because to me let's say I am wrong right? Lets play devils advocate for a bit in a hypothetical world and I am totally wrong, the best counterargument I have seen so far is someone saying dating is easier when older when you wish to date close to your age as a girl because by then men are more mature. Thus, the dating pool actually being better for those girls at a later age. If you had a rational argument like that, you'd have presented it right?

So tell me, if I am wrong in what I said and you have a convincing reason why I am seeing it wrong why not just post an informed opinion to convince me? Why the hatred behind it? Because the only thing I can think off is that you secretly agree with me, and it drives you mad that the world works this way.

[Levin]

In my experience women tend to get crazy aggressive and triggered when you suggest you might like to date younger. I can only surmise this is due to such a power imbalance in the dating market where women's egos are through the roof, and they could never countenance a situation where they weren't highly valued 'bad ass bitches'. How dare any lowly male challenge their power or perceptions of reality? And often it does come to power, power dynamics in relationships.

So really, women take it personally. They are triggered at the prospect of not being personally highly desirable. It is a novel unfathomable notion to them.

The other aspect to it is hypocrisy. I once suggested I'd like to date younger to a woman. A woman in her mid 40s who basically only fucked younger men. Men as low as 17, but often in their 20s and 30s. When I suggested I may take a leaf out of her book, to play the devil's advocate a little, she thought it was morally reprehensible. Curious reaction. It would seem men are innately morally awry, from what I can deduce, and she's allowed to do it because she's an 'innocent woman'.

Also, I agree that men really don't care about income. That's not attractive to us at all. I want a woman kind, nurturing, with her own mind and opinions. She needs to take care of herself and embody the feminine energy. She doesn't need to be a super model but some obvious basic aesthetics and physical attraction is important. This last bit is highly personal anyway.

[Levin]

In terms of the attractiveness of younger women, there's a girl in her early 20s where I work. She is miles ahead of the other women in my work in every single way. She extremely physically attractive and slim. She has some humility. Honestly, they say age is indicative of maturity. Doesn't seem to be in my work place. Many of the older women are literally, crazy. Very childish. Very quick to temper. Inflexible. Aggressive. Egos out of this world. Honestly, we just want to be free with a woman and have a nice time. A woman who makes us feel good and appreciated. A woman who has that basic natural bodily intelligence.

[sawno]

@Levin Yup, in reverse my last relationship I was her youngest partner and also the most mature. People mature differently and its all about who you fit well with. The funny part is that I am not even saying I wouldn't be with a woman a few years older than me. Its all about how well she fits me. I'm just saying that she has to compete with all the younger girls to since men prefer dating younger. So unless she is so old you run into the fertility needs a child very soon baby cravings in overdrive phase its not like age is inherently bad. But you do have to compete with both the beauty and personality of younger girls. And myself as an example I am comfortable dating 3 years older at most. But I am also comfortable dating mature mid 20s. So if she's 32 she has basically no competition with women older than her for me specifically, bur she does compete with anyone younger who is mature enough to have left school. While when I was 27 she would have been to old for me but girls in their 20's were fine. So the big overlap seems to be around 24-25 years old. Both 20s men and 30s men are willing to date them. Those girls often also want either 20s or 30s men. So thats what I call the primary dating pool. Once your past that you will have to accept that the people you can date either failed to get dates earlier, or are single after a serious relationship. So that brings its own issues people can or can't handle. I'm personally a great communicator so if she got hurt by a previous relationship that doesn't scare me off as long as she responds well to communication. But if she's older and wants to date a guy who doesn't have children already for example she will have to make an effort to appeal just like men have always done. Because a part of the raw sex appeal is lost.

[bobby_bush_eater]

It definitely is but it's not an all hope is lost case. For the most part these girls were used to getting way more attention than most any man and after 30 they gradually begin to age and the biological clock becomes a real factor. Men also don't like to think of all the baggage/prior relationships that go along with more age (whether that's right or wrong it's true of male behavior).

It just makes less sense for most young attractive men especially around the same age to not go for a younger woman.

[Simslover92]

If you haven't found your person by college, it's usually downhill from there. I'm so glad I found my guy in college even though we didn't get together until years later. I don't think I would be with anyone now if I hadn't met him in college. I think dating in your 30s is hard because the selection of good people to date are slim vs in your 20s.

[Peridot25]

Why college?

[Simslover92]

Because it's where you meet the most like-minded people. You can find someone like yourself more easily in college than you will in any other period in your life. It's more difficult to find like-minded people outside of college.

[Peridot25]

I never went to college and I’m 31. Does that mean I’m going to die single?

[Sweetbrunette305]

I found the most intellectuallly unattractive guys on the face of the earth in college! I never dated college guys back in my college days.

[Simslover92]

No you can still find someone beyond college or if you have never been, it's just more difficult is all I'm saying.

[Simslover92]

@Sweetbrunette305 most guys I found unattractive as well but there was two I found very attractive and fell for. It's not always going to happen but it does happen for some.

[Peridot25]

I’m curious, is school the only one way to find a partner? Not just college but like high school, too.

[Peridot25]

Why is school the main way to find your future partner?

[Simslover92]

No its definitely not the only way to find your partner. It's just one of the best ways to find someone. Like I said before you are more likely to find a like-minded person in college. College is where you're able to meet a lot of different people and have the best chance of finding someone that's a lot like you though it's not the end all be all. College is not the only way to find someone, it's just easier. I met so many people in college and found not only my person but my best friend in college who will be my life long friend. It's not always the case for everyone to find someone while in college but it is the best time to find someone because you're able to meet a diverse set of people who can challenge and attract you.

[Peridot25]

I never had luck in high school. I didn’t trust my fellow male students. Plus, they liked the pretty girls better.

[Simslover92]

I didn't have much luck in high school either. I was a nerd. I didn't come out of my shell until college and that's when I met the most people who were a lot like me. They were like-minded in a lot of the things I liked which wasn't the case in high school. Maybe if you had went to college you would have found someone too. I'm not saying you would have but maybe you would have.

[Peridot25]

So I should go to college just to find myself boyfriend?

[Simslover92]

No I'm not saying that at all. All I'm saying is that you're more likely to find someone in college than any other time in your life but you certainly don't have to go to college to find someone. There's dating apps or just getting out there to find someone.

[Peridot25]

But, why say, “If you haven’t found your person in college, it’s downhill from there”? As if that’s the only way even though everyone is different.

[Simslover92]

I said it's "usually" downhill from there but not always. I'm not saying that's the only way. I'm saying that the chances of finding someone after college goes down a heap of a lot because it's difficult to meet people after college vs while you're in college. Unless you have a lot of friends who can match you up with someone. If I hadn't reconnected with my good friend from college who is now my boyfriend, I probably would still be single now tbh because I don't have a lot of friends since college.

[SphynxUK]

I haven’t noticed a problem. You will always find liars or ghosting on dating apps, but I probably have more choice now than when I was 20.
Interest comes from all ages.
I can’t swipe right without it always being a match.
Women don’t ‘decline’, they age. Just as men do. And with age comes confidence, knowing oneself and not putting up with any sh*t.
Women I know, who are up to 10 years older than me, don’t seem to have issues finding suitable men to date either.

[Alwayreckles93]

Thank you this 👍👍👍🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[LazerBean]

It just depends on what the woman is looking for. If it's a conservative woman looking for a conservative man who has never been married and doesn't have kids, then yeah it's going to be a lot harder after 30 because men that meet that criteria will have been married already. But women with those requirements are not very common. For the average woman, it seems like it stays about the same regardless of age. And honestly, it seems like women who are 50 have way more game than younger women.

[Anonymous]

No way! Dating can be just as fun and fulfilling after 30. In fact, a lot of women find they know what they want more and don't waste time on games. The dating pool might seem smaller, but the people in it are likely looking for something serious too. So focus on the quality connections and you might be surprised!

[Mr_twoface]

I don't believe it's downhill, it's just that after 30 you may have more of a criteria and won't have the time to go on dates as frequently as in your 20s due to work, studies or life challenges in general. You may just search for what you believe you want, rather than open up your horizon and You often want a gentleman but end up finding still a lot of boys who just want to get laid and hence as time goes by, you end up spending more and more by yourself.

[Dinklex3]

Nah.

I think it has more to do with where you are at in life and what you’re doing rather than just turning a certain age. All the women I know who are 30+ have zero problems dating and meeting new people.

[HappyWoman34]

Not really. There are just more people married by that age.

[Alwayreckles93]

This thank you. By the way you look 19 🙌❤️👍

[HappyWoman34]

@Alwayreckles93 thank you. I’d say early thirties. You look younger than your age, too.

[Alwayreckles93]

HappyWoman34 Thank you girly ❤️

[Nikki1989]

I take it you don't' know many women, or you are just believing the garbage you read online. This is not true at all.

[Asker]

are you married?

[SixFootSexy]

It's really downhill for women over 30. Reason being, their standards are skyhigh (they want the 6ft/6in/6figures guy), and they don't have the youth and beauty they did when they were 20 to lock that guy down.

[Asker]

then when they can't find that guy, they get angry, bitter, hate all men and ignore all the nice guys going after them

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

A woman after 30 who isn't married most likely is already finished being taken seriously for a relationship or marriage at least from smart men because they are going to conclude this woman has been sleeping around a lot by that age or been in multiple relationships and failed for whatever reasons which most are going to be negative reasons.

[itsclearlynicholas]

Id say it is for men and for women. The 20s were the highlight for dating for all genders. I only just turned 30. Sure I may never had successfully dated or scored, yet, there's always been and always will most likely will be, ways of self-love :)

[itsclearlynicholas]

Like a box of chocolates mmm chocolate 🍫

[Flatmanlewis]

No. It, like at all ages, depends on the woman and what she brings to the table. Some of the most beautiful and desirable women I have ever met were all 30+.

[molonski2]

Ohh come on ! Seriously !

Absolute prime of life , this is bullshit , no no no -- Its the very BEST of times , whoever seriously came up with this? utter nonsense.

[Apple1996]

Nah 30 is the age most women are starting relationships/getting married more so than any other age in a woman's life

[DextroShade]

Yes because their standards go up for some perverse reason while what they have to offer goes down: they are less attractive, less fertile, have more trauma, taken more dicks, and have more bad habits.

[exitseven]

Yes, all the good guys are already married so you are left with a collection of losers or weirdos or else guys that are secretly married.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

😂😂😂😂

[Olgamasha]

It’s just a number. It’s about the mindset of a person. 30 is still young tho

[lightbulb27]

false, plenty are dating marrying. some give up or have poor fortunes... that is true.

[Unit1]

That depends heavily on their life actions and choices.

Time will show whether she kept her attractiveness or let herself go.

[Anonymous]

It can be.

I've always said a good woman NEVER loses value. But most women are not good women (not relationship material). And that is the crux of it all.

[Peridot25]

I never had luck in the dating world. Whether it was my teen years or 20s.

[Peridot25]

Guessing I’m dying single 😉

[Dan_5001]

High standards?

[Peridot25]

Nah. I’ve been bullied and men aren’t too fond of me. So I just stay away.

[Dan_5001]

Do you say things out of term or snap back?

[Harshbro]

For sex? Def not

For relo? Maybe
But for men it’s always on maximum difficulty , only gets worse with age

looks are everything

[Twalli]

If a guy wants children, yes. If they don't, 30+ isn't a concern

[Alwayreckles93]

Do you plan to porpuse to your girlfriend whois much der then you? I mea you guys have veen together for a while now. I think ever since pendamic ever since I sing up for this site What is it like in 2019. Its been a while probably even longer or way before pandemic hit youtwo love birds been together.

[Twalli]

@Alwayreckles93 we got together in 2018. I was still in college then. Graduated in 2019 and started looking for a job after my graduation trip (2 wels at Disney World). Then the lockdown started and all opening position jobs went away. Looked around for what I could do and discovered medical coding can be remote. Looked around more and found AAPC as the best place to do it. Took the classes and got certified in November 2022. Got a job un April of 2023, and that's where I am now. Since I have been gainfully employed for over 6 months, I have my parents blessing to get married. I also have thr money for a ring. I just need to find one and get it.
Also my girlfriend is only 5 years older than me, so it's not much older. However, as you can see I am over 30, so she definitely is. She was also over 30 when we started dating.

[Alwayreckles93]

I like you guys love story. That's amazing you know it's rare now a days seriou relationship don't last long now a days. I am glad you guys plan on getting married. I hear Disney offers good employment benefits My best friend told me Disney probides good Health insurance. And family discounts. I like you guys love story.

[Alwayreckles93]

Well 5 year age gap isn't take much of a difference.

[Twalli]

@Alwayreckles93 exactly, and her being over 30 didn't matter to either of us because we don't see kids in our future

[HM1189]

If the woman's pretty and attractive, her age doesn't matter

[Anonymous]

Would you prefer buying this or a full carton?

[IslaTheWitch]

sometimes, I wish it was...

[Alwayreckles93]

Believe woman your age look even more younger and more attractive then the younger ones. I am being completely honest.

[dustybiker2]

Woman date in retirement homes. No.

[wiltingrosepetal]

I think Taylor Swift is thriving 💀🤚

[Jamie05rhs]

She's a billionaire.

[Lynx122]

We'll see how long this relationship lasts 🤷‍♂️

[Paris13]

lol!!! Nor Relationships. xxoo

[whistlingwh0res]

We can alway lie cheat get a surgery

[JayBones2469]

It's down hill at 17. It's fucking dead by 30

[Peridot25]

17? Dear lord. Our brains aren’t even fully developed then.

[JayBones2469]

Your brains are never fully developed

[Jamie05rhs]

@JayBones2469 🤣💀💀