In April I reconnected with a guy I went to high school with and we hit it off. For the first 6 weeks we talked everyday and snapped each other a lot. When he was drunk he told me he loved me, asked me to date him, move in with him and called me baby. Finally I just told him I liked him and had feelings for him. He immediately pulled away and said he needed some space and time to think. After about a week of nothing I finally texted him back. Things somewhat went back to normal, we still talked and hooked up and would hangout on the weekends. Jump forward to late July by this time he had asked me to have his children multiple times still called me baby and was still affectionate. Little did I know he was talking to another girl and they hit it off but we were still together in a situationship while he was talking to her. He slowly stop initiating contact with me but would always respond to my texts basically he was slowly ghosting me but still sleeping with me and hanging out with me and still calling me sweet name. Finally in August he told me we couldn’t hangout anymore and he dumped me for this new girl. We agreed to be friends. It’s not October and we have barely talked in the past two months but if he found someone else why does he still have my number, keep me on Snapchat, respond to all my messages and and have conversations with me. I don’t know if he if still with this girl or with any girl. What’s the point of keeping me on Snapchat and responding to my texts if he doesn’t want anything to do with me? Should I text him and ask him or just wait for him to come to me? We both fell hard for each other and I still have feelings for him. Not sure if I should just delete him or try to talk to him about giving it another go? So confused have no idea what to do.
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This is a complex situation, but we need to take a look at the facts for a moment. He's done nothing but confuse you, sporadically love you, and ghost you for someone else. This is not a man who would be good for anything other than friends with benefits while he's in this sort of lackadaisical mindset. You've had your feelings toyed with and if he really liked you, he wouldn't be actively dating someone else and keeping you in his contacts as a backup girlfriend.
At best, I think you two could just stay friends and maybe try again in a decade when he grows up and gets out of the hoe phase or whatever he's up to. Honestly, it just seems like you are being love bombed and randomly dumped at times.
Of course, you probably still see the good in him, and that's okay, no one's always just a total asshole. But you need to consider your feelings-- the ways he's made you feel only sound like it would end up being a toxic (or maybe mere poison) relationship.
Unless he's willing to go exclusive with you, I'd look into one of the following:
Because, just based off the little you've said here, he doesn't seem like he takes you seriously enough to be in a healthy relationship. Too wishy-washy, seems to be looking for upgrades. Unless I'm mistaken.
Thank you for the response!! We ended things on good terms with a conversation. If I were to ask him if he’s completely over me or if he wanted to give things a try. what would a good question be to ask from a guys point of view? Half of me wants to let him go but it’s very hard to move on with so many questions and such confusion but the other half of me wants to give it another go. I don’t want to just delete him out of my life since we’ve known each other our entire lifes and we grew up and still live in the same very very small town so I know I’ll run into him a lot over time. Any advice?
(I will respond to this when I have more time, busy IRL. Check back here in about half an hour or so.)
Ended things on good terms is always decent. But it sounds to me like you ended things without getting proper closure. Fortunately you're not enemies, so you have a chance at asking your questions... Just keep in mind he may not answer them in a satisfactory manner. Either way, I do hope you can eventually figure out something ideal for you both.
Personally I feel like you would both be good as friends or acquaintances at this moment, just to keep things from being awkward when you run into each other in town.
I don't know your dynamic with him, so questions that would work on me may not work on him. Men generally do like direct no-nonsense questions that are worded politely, but leave no room for misinterpretation.
As for deleting him out of your life... No one's forcing you to do that, unless he wants you gone, or his partner tries to start stuff.
Only you know what your heart is able to take. But I personally feel like moving on might be for the best, unless you want to put your love life on permanent hold for a Maybe.
I just hope you're not falling into the sunk-cost fallacy in some manner.
Either way, if you can't sleep at night over it, try starting a message of some sort. Say hello, ask if he's fine with chatting for a bit, and then ask if he's in the mindset to answer a potentially tough question, that way he knows you're serious about getting a definitive answer.
I'll also say closure is usually a luxury that not everyone can obtain. You need to be okay with the idea that he might have slipped away and found someone that suits him better. And even if he's single, a relationship with him will not be good if his heart isn't in it, you know?
Well when he did end things I asked why he ended things and his response was I said things I didn’t mean so that just sounded like an excuse and that he also didn’t expect him to text her so much and grow into something. This is also the confusing part. If he had a new girl why wouldn’t he delete me off of Snapchat knowing I could text him at any moment and possibly ruin his current relationship. I actually asked him about a week ago if he was okay with me texting him and he said it’s fine. So I don't know if he’s completely moved on with no feelings for me anymore but since he still has me on Snapchat he doesn’t watch my stories anymore and if I didn’t mean anything to him you’d think he would say hi every now and then. Sorry for all these questions but I haven’t stopped thinking about this for 2 months and I’ve literally lost sleep over it. I just want to get a guy’s perspective to help me understand what may be going on in his head.
Well, he operates a completely different way than I do, so keep that in mind. Just because I'm a guy doesn't mean I'll be able to magically read what's going on in another man's head, lol. But... I'm still a second opinion, at least, and it's better than sitting alone with your own thoughts and getting nowhere on it.
Let's backtrack to when things ended.
"You said things you didn't mean" sounds like he thought you were lying about having feelings for him, or he didn't feel the love from you. But even if that was just 'an easy cop-out,' let's think about that for a second. Why would he break things off with such a weak excuse? That, in and of itself, is already enough reason to let it fizzle out. Sometimes people are just bad at expressing their true feelings and try to make excuses. I'm one of them. I'll never tell you straight to your face that I don't like having you around, I'll beat around the bush to avoid having a potential conflict or bad vibes. (Not always the best idea)
Didn't expect her to text him so much just sounds like another weak excuse. What was he even texting her for in the first place? Just to have another friend? Probably not. Personally, I enjoy having female friends without trying to force a relationship with them, but not everyone's like that.
As for leaving you unblocked or added, well, he either didn't see you being an issue, or didn't think about it at all. Maybe he felt you'd leave him in peace.
To be continued
So, either you're his backup plan or he literally sees no romance future with you. Both options aren't exactly ideal, you know? I've got some of my exes on Snapchat but I don't really use that service and I don't check their stuff and I damn sure won't message any of them out of the blue-- I've moved on. But things that ended peacefully made me feel like they're okay to leave added as a "see, we're cool" kinda deal.
Of course, you two sound closer than me or my exes are, but still. I won't exhume a coffin that was already buried. And I hate to say this, but there's a chance he is not thinking about you as much as you are thinking about him. Unless you express you're distressed about it, he might be living life thinking everything is fine while you're sitting around wondering where things went wrong, unable to accept a loss.
At this point, I feel like you need a straight answer from him, unless you feel like you can manage without one. Look at the actions and effort, not the words. A friend wouldn't ignore someone forever. And if he does know you're feeling lost, then that's all the more reason to be upset. Your life doesn't need to be wasted on unwinnable mind games.
He's either clueless, vindictive, or literally thinks nothing is wrong? That's my current guess.
Oh and there's no need to apologize for the questions. I'm happy to brainstorm with you, it gives me something to do. Sorry I'm not more help, though.
Thank you for the advice!! It means a lot. After thinking about it and your point of view. I’m definitely just a back up for when shit hits the fan or when he’s ready to come back for whatever reason. Now all I have to do is figure out a way to tell him I do not want to be a backup and it’s either we be something or not and I will then delete him off of social media so I can just move on. With him wording is everything from what I’ve learned. I have to get it right or I’ll be ignored.
Of course, buddy. I wish you good luck with whatever ends up happening. I'm happy to have helped. But if you find yourself in a similar situation with him in the future, I urge you to just rip the band-aid off at some point when you haven't been given a basic level of respect.
"I feel this way about you, and I need answers. I don't want to waste my time worrying what I mean to you, or wondering if we'll ever be what I used to dream we could be." Obviously, don't send that verbatim. But DO figure out a way to let yourself breathe again. Even if it hurts, the pain will eventually subside and your future self may even thank you for freeing your affection for someone who actually wants to stay with you.
And, again, he may not even realize what he's keeping you around for. Backup or not, he doesn't give enough reassurance to even be a friend at that point. Definitely spend some time figuring out how you want to approach the situation, use concise, easy to understand wording. And don't expect a miracle. If he's half as good at beating around the bush as I am, consider that an answer in and of itself. Pay special attention to the effort he's putting in. Even friendships require a minimal amount, nothing crazy... But enough for you to stop feeling blindsided and lost. You deserve that much, at least.
I'm going to predict he doesn't feel as strongly about you as you do about your idea of him. And if you can't stand being "friends" you're more than welcome to ask for space and try again in the future after you've let yourself move on and heal.
And... if he's like "I do still love you," then why is he dating someone else? Etc.
There's no need to overanalyze everything, but your wording will be critical. And his response will either be direct or nuanced. Lastly... I'm not you, and I'm not him. I'm just giving advice based on what you've told me, so if I'm wrong about something, I apologize in advance if things go south.
If you have any other questions, feel free to leave them here or message me. If you're currently satisfied with your current plan, then I wish you all the best implementing it and figuring out how you want to spend your life going forward. Years are much shorter than they seem...
Yes I will definitely think this wording and messaging through. Because I feel like I only have one shot to ask and I can't mess it up. Thank you so much for all the advice!
You're welcome, it's no problem at all. Have a wonderful day, and good luck sorting it out for good.
Have a wonderful night too!! Thanks!
Hey one more question. So why would he mute and ignore my stories on Snapchat?
Good morning, bud. I will answer this when I have a moment to do so. In the meantime, don't let it make you sad. Quick answer: maybe it's a statement.
I've gained a moment to text much quicker than I anticipated. This is truly a glorious day.
Anyway, how are you able to tell her muted or ignored your stuff? Unless he just blocked you? I don't use my Snapchat enough to know that much about it.
Potential options:
• He's trying to move on. Easier when you eliminate things that bring up memories.
• Someone asked him to do it. Maybe a girlfriend or something of the sort. There could be numerous reasons for why a partner would want that done. Some are more understandable than others.
• You've somehow offended him, and he's trying to see less of you
All in all... it just seems like he has digitally taken a step away from you. Created space.
Now, personally, I don't feel like he's acting like I would. I would block mere friends in fits of depression and self sabotage things I wanted for myself, telling myself I'm "doing them a favor." That's one more option but I would hope he's not like that.
I, personally, think you would benefit from moving on from him. He clearly isn't interested in you as he used to be. Whether or not you get an answer, his actions speak for themselves. Either he's doing it or he's valuing what someone else suggested to him.
This does not exclusively paint you as a bad person or someone undesirable, keep that in mind.
But you have been wasting precious time trying to peel answers out of him to little avail. And I'm sorry it hasn't gone smoothly so far.
Hey thanks for the reply! It seems from what you told me and how well I know him. He has no grudge against me and I know no girl told him to do it. He has a lot of girls on Snapchat. He’s just creating space from me and moving on. He and I are on good terms no hard feelings but it just seems like he has lost interest. Thanks!!
Excellent. I'm merely the idea generator here, you're the one with the ability to figure out the most likely answer, so I'll agree with you on it. He's probably just cleaning things up on his end and making space for his mind to move on.
You, on the other hand, should also be considering your next move. And I really wish you luck in accomplishing your goals.
Also, on the off-chance he unblocks you in the future, I really hope you're beyond caring at that point, and don't think too much about what he's trying to do. At that point I'd say he's just as confused as you are about what he wants, but... If you two were really meant together, I don't think all of this blocking-ignoring etc would've been necessary, ya know?
Well. I guess this is a closed case for now. I hope you have a nice day. Take care.
So I finally had the guts to text him and express my feelings. He said he is “seeing someone” else. He didn’t unfriend or block me from Snapchat because he doesn’t want any bad feelings between us. But his feelings and concentration are towards her now. He said that I am super nice and he wishes me luck and hopes I find someone. So I found my answer.
I had suspected as much, and so did you. But, even if it hurts right now, you can still breathe and let yourself move on. I hope you're doing okay. And I'm sorry this version of reality didn't go exactly the way you'd like, but if his heart isn't into you he would not be worthwhile to date again.
Yes it hurts a lot but I’m somewhat okay. I think I mentally prepared for it but hoped it wasn’t true. I wish he would’ve just told me to move on directly and to just get over him but he never was one to just say how he felt. He was really nice about it which was weird. But I take it him wishing me luck and to find someone is his way of saying he’s completely moved on and we are never getting back together?
Full closure I'm drunk right now but yes I think he's moved on and that he has no interest in you. Not that you're a bad person or even unattractive but that he didn't think you're his life partner. I'll be back in the morning to give a more detailed opinion. I'm sorry.
But... It's also really difficult to break someone's heart which is why I think he took the indirect route.
He has his own qualifications for who he wants to date, I think. This does not subtract from what you have to offer.