What does the phrase a man is only as faithful as his options mean?

[Vegasrunner]

[AMS700CX4u2]

If you are addressing the Epstein Situation, it means that most of us are not exposed to the options that the affluent are. We are not presented with the chance to have sex with those that the law says we are not supposed to. Due to the influence of wealth, few are going to criticize. Yet they are held to the same standard. At least that is the premise that America operates under. Equal before the law. Now we have already suffered two Consecutive presidents trashing "Equal in the Eyes of the Law". They basically invited every criminal in the United States to go ahead and commit a crime. Just ask for a presidential pardon. If it was granted to other criminals at the presidents whim, then all Americans have the same Right. This is going to snowball. Now it is up to the Candidates who claimed to be Law and Order to admit their crimes and take the consequences. Even though it destroys political careers, social status, and a chance to accept money from lobbyist. Where is the Honor.

[Anonymous]

It means a comedian (Chris Rock) is doing a comedy bit. Because let's be honest. Man or women people like attention. That whack job "musician" that said, "give an ugly guy a chance he thinks he rules the world". This is no more truthful than, "give a fat girl a chance she thinks she rules the world". Bottom line, attractive or not, male or female, you're either a good person or you're not. And attractive people seldom have to develop their personality or maintain honor and respect, as there will always be another person of the opposite gender in line to replace their current person. But time is undefeated. And looks are fleeting. Even that person will have to answer to the ravages of time at some point.

Chris Rock said this as a bit. But generally it comes from a woman that is a terrible judge of character and as result chooses one bad man after the next, claims she gets lied to when the REALITY is all she entertains is liars. Because she prefers a lie to the REALITY that a GOOD MAN would tell her. It's tragic, but kind of amusing. Because many of these women will not wake up to this REALITY till and advanced age, if ever at all.

That was probably more of an explanation than you needed.😆

[Vegasrunner]

@anonymous TY for sharing but this is a horrible take. "Good" has nothing to do with it. Most men have limited options so they are forced to stay faithful however men that have a bunch of options are going to exercise them. This has been proven throughout history.

[Noredcarpet]

I take the saying as if he ain't got other options then he'll stay faithful. Don't mean I buy it, I actually don't but then again I don't buy anything in general thst starts with men or women as it could very well come from a manhaters or womenhaters club who can't see beyond and look at the personalities instead. Or it could come from a guy himself who want a pathetic excuse to cheat, you never know, lol

[Vegasrunner]

@Noredcarpet By that logic though wouldn't that mean you're part of the haters group because you're discriminating based on what word was placed?

[Noredcarpet]

Hum, could be, gotta think about that one

[Katebfun]

More Money. More length in height or else where 😉 a job that allows him to travel more often all = More temptation!

[ManOnFire]

I've heard this saying before and I do not believe it. It fits so much more for women than it does for men. If there is ever anything out there that a woman perceives as a better option or "upgrade" they are going to swing over to that guy regardless of how good her present man is to her. Most men - especially in today's age where good marriages and relationships seem harder to find - are just happy to be with somebody because they believe it won't be easy for them to find someone else. And they are also taught to think this way.

I personally believe that women have wandering eyes and ways much more than men, and people don't pay attention to it. I've both seen and experienced it with women who have partners that are better looking than me, make more than me, or are even a lot more muscular. Yet somehow these women can't seem to stop being curious about me or finding reasons to come around.

[Vegasrunner]

@ManOnFire Interesting points. Part of the reason I dont th I nk it fits for women is because when woman do have a man they admire, love and respect all other men are invisible to them. I agree with your most men point however that kind of proves the premise. If those same men had money status, looks etc they would certainly have more women.

[ManOnFire]

That is true. Other men are invisible when a woman is deeply devoted to her guy, and I've met those too. Only caveat is that I make pretty decent money but I am not a drop dead gorgeous guy yet something about me still makes chicks want to come around or they get excited when I'm around, and I do not understand it.

[Vegasrunner]

@ManOnFire Nice. That has a lot to do w/ a reality people dont like to hear. Women are judged on their looks men are not. Most likely you bring value in so many other ways. Money, status, power, physique? Charisma, etc that it easily compensates for your perceived lack of attractiveness. Whats happen is that in today's society we try so hard to make people believe men and women are equal they have tricked young men into thinking what's attractive for women is the same for men.

[ManOnFire]

Must be charisma lol. And maybe the way I carry myself.

That is correct. And it's why so many young dudes today are soft and sensitive.

[Vegasrunner]

@ManOnFire Could be. But its why in my opinion its a golden age of dating for HV men. There's so much less competition most woman aren't use to dealing with confident masculine men when they finally come across one they can't get enough.

[MikeMcMansion]

“ because when woman do have a man they admire,”
Barbie brain logic, also your projecting your faithfulness that God gave you as a man onto women

[Vegasrunner]

@MikeMcMansion Its just common sense when women have a man they love respect and admire other men are basically invisible to them. This isn't the same for men. I don't get into the religious nonsense because thats more for people unable to think for themselves.

[ohsheeT]

It means if you get with a guy that takes his brain out every day to play with it

most of the time he can't find all the part as he's trying to put it back in

When this happens he becomes slower

[ohsheeT]

But you can tell who those guys are because they always end up on gag asking questions lol

[Hagar88]

Its supposed to mean if he can't get another woman to cheat with he won't cheat.

Some say if he can't get a woman hotter than his wife/girlfriend he won't cheat but I've seen guys with gorgeous women at home cheat with basically any moderate average attractive woman because he could. Picture a guy who has a woman that looks like Anne Hathaway or Eva Green cheating with soom radom chick that looks like Amy Shummer.

Personally I've never cheated nor will and I've had many offers from various women. Because I've made a commitment to my wife and im a man of my word, a man of honour i am faithful to my wife.

[Katebfun]

That's exactly whay "some" men do. They downgrade because only women ugly inside and out who are hungry for crumbs from a married man. Women who cheat at least upgrade 🤣😂

[Hagar88]

@Katebfun women who cheat dont necessarily upgrade. No high value man would ever get into a relationship with a woman who cheated with him on another man.
Women cheat when they are looking a new man.
Men who cheat are cheating with any woman willing.

[aceleon]

a dicthotomy where it denies the claim of honour of the idiots belong.

all creatures in existance are hedonistic and egoistical, if you have to chance to get what you want, most of the time you will get it.

no such thing as man of honour, honour doesn't exist in a systemwhere everything happened out of random circumstances (like atheists believes) it has no OBJECTİVE basis, just you liking a behavior better than another. completely empty inside of meaning where you delude yourself into believe otherwise.

[BCRanger10]

It's a dumb@$$ false dichotomy thought up by some hedonostic pig who's trying to justify his lack of self-control, integrity, and honor and project the same onto others or a feminist man-hater (but I repeat myself) who's seen a few too many late-90s rom-coms. It's a moronic idea that should be held in absolute contempt.

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 Thats interesting so you believe that HV men who have options will stay with one woman? How do you compare that against the reality of the history of men woth money, power and status who have had multiple women?

[BCRanger10]

I don't think that being "high value" makes a man void of morality and conscience. Or even necessarily distorts them.

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 TY for sharing but what does that have to do with the question. Throughout history HV men have always had multiple women how do you weigh this fact against your belief?

[BCRanger10]

Why should I care about what other men have done?

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 Im not sure but you cared enough to respond initially, now when the flaw in your theory is pointed out you dont care?

[BCRanger10]

What flaw?

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 Great question and please dont be embarrassed for not knowing. Your original statement was that this phrase was a false dichotomy, however as I pointed out. Most HV men throughout history have had multiple women, in fact its so odd that they dont that society isn't surprised when they find out. Think Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant, JFK etc.

[BCRanger10]

Is the flaw then that men ought to remain faithful?

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 No as pointed out before the flaw is believing that men being only as faithful as their options is false.

[BCRanger10]

How and why? Because other men in the past have done so?

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 That is called evidence.

[BCRanger10]

Does it say anything about a man's value system or his ability to think and make choices? Choices like remaining loyal? Once a man has committed to a woman, whether it's just a dating relationship, engagement, or marriage, he doesn't have "other options" anymore.

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 I think I see the confusions. I dont mean "value" as in the belief he holds. I mean value as in his worth to the world. Men show loyalty to women by providing and protecting for them. As pointed out when a man has a ton of options he will be less sexually faithful to woman, this has been proven true throughout history.

[BCRanger10]

I knew what you meant. I knew you were talking in terms of money, position, status, influence, and such. I get it. I'm not confused on that at all. My argument is still the same.

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 What os your argument?

[BCRanger10]

My argument is that if a man, "high-value" or not, is in a relationship - whether dating, engaged, or married - then the hell with "other options". They don't exist. A man's being "high-value" does not necessarily mean he will be unfaithful, nor does it excuse him from such.

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 Thats more like a feeling, however the question ask what does that phrase mean to you. You're articulating your personal beliefs not necessarily reality. Its very easy for a man with no options to stay sexually loyal to one woman its very different when a man is bombarded by options daily.

[BCRanger10]

So if a man with wealth and influence is married, he can't or won't say "I'm married, I choose to be loyal"? He can't or won't look at the situation and make a choice?

[Vegasrunner]

@BCRanger10 This is a case of exceptions which is part of the three East of female behavior. Im sure there are plenty of men who choose to be loyal, however what the question asks is of men who dont have wealth and influence would be as loyal if they did. Throughout the history of the world most men who have had options of women have chosen to exercise them, which if you got put of your feelings and use logic makes perfect sense.

[aaron13547]

Everyone always wants more and we can't have everything. Your phrase suggest men always put themselves first. Thats not always true. Its true that self respect is what women find attractive. But its also a road to finding happiness in outcomes. Its like chasing something you can't catch because there is always more to want.

[new-person]

It means just what it says.

Not all available options are options to all people. As somethings go against what someone believes and their morals so what might be an option to others might not be an option to one unless that one changes their beliefs or morals.

[HighValue]

That is something that two groups of people often say. Unfaithful men that try to make excuses for their immoral cheating (men like Myron Gains), and women that want to make excuses why they continually choose the same type of unfaithful men that they often meet at clubs and bars and they try to pretend that most men are like that when they aren't.

[Miristheiss]

That men are only faithful because no one else will have sex with him but if he has options and opportunities to sleep with other women he will.

[jshm2]

Its a nasty slur, and a projection.

Essentially it's asserting the person is only honest because (s) he has not found a way to be dishonest, without getting caught.

[Vegasrunner]

@jshm2 Lol, what's the slur part og it? Remember the phrase says a Man is as faithful as his options not people.

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[SeekerOfTruth007]

Never heard this. Sounds like a lie to me. Probably a lie some disgruntled woman made. You shouldn't believe everything posted by women.

[Vegasrunner]

@SeekerOfTruth007 Nah its a well known saying that has been repeated by many HV men. I agree with you about not believing women.

[MikeMcMansion]

David didn’t seek out Bathshiba, he was seduced. JFK’s wife Jackie was a bitch to him and he was seduced. These men were swooned by these women at vulnerable times, David wanted a son and did not have one with his current wife, there is always more to the story. David felt bad about what he did, he repented of his sins in front of the whole kingdom and told them what he did to his friend Uriyah, Bathsheba’s husband. His confession was honorable.

I can’t imagine cheating on the mother of my kids that I committed to, if I did it would eat me up inside. Feeling guilty and sorry for the actions you did that hurt someone at no fault of theirs is actually normal. Psychopathy is not

[Vegasrunner]

@MikeMcMansion Lol, thats a fictional story. JFK had numerous women, which again proves men are only as faithful as their options.

[HylianTimelord]

It means if a man has a better option, he will take it. It usually refers to the dating world, but it could be applied to other things. Living area or employment for example.

[AngryCarl3]

It's easy to be faithful to your partner if no one wants to cheat with you.

[MikeMcMansion]

This could be projection on your the op’s part.

I guess all those men that chose to die for their friends in combat weren’t really men.

[Vegasrunner]

@mikemcmansion TY for sharing. What does that have to do with the question?

[MikeMcMansion]

The quote is bullshit. Its coming from a degenerate lens, an irresponsible man that has given up his role in raising his offspring and protecting his family.

[Vegasrunner]

@mikemcmansion Not sure I follow. If most men w/ options aren't faithful how is it bullshit? Also what does this have to do w_ giving up on protecting a family?

[MikeMcMansion]

Yep, it sure is bullshit. You sound like you have barbie brain or you come from a long cycle of fatherless homes. Of which, I feel sorry for you

[MikeMcMansion]

Don’t be listening to the edward bernays barbie ops like Pearl Davis. I didn’t have to explain to you that there are men who wouldn’t destroy the mother of their children that they’re raising by doing such a thing there are men who respect the religion of their forefathers, etc., etc. etc..

Degenerate culture

[Vegasrunner]

@mikemcmansion Im asking how is it BS if it accurate? Its unfortunate that you feel sorry, but your are entitled to feel how you feel.

[Vegasrunner]

@mikemcmansion I think the phrase insinuates those men dont have high enough value to do that.

[MikeMcMansion]

I knew much better men than myself (pretty easy to find) that were flirted with but rejected their advances their entire lives. Tall healthy rich and fit men who married and were faithful. They loved Jesus that was the common denominator for them and they were products of a different generation and in the bible belt.

Generations of fatherlessness and degenerate propaganda can change a man. And yeah, since all the women are after young rich guys and the tallest most handsome guys - and both males and females are less religious today…I suppose they aren’t as faithful as they once were.

My ex wife brought home a woman that wanted to sleep with me so did an ex girlfriend, I declined and was pissed at the ex-wife and not made at the girlfriend since we weren’t even dating.

[MikeMcMansion]

Not that I am some chad now or then… but I’m just saying that was ghetto behavior in my day. Yeah, its everywhere now tjough

[Vegasrunner]

@mikemcmansion I think I see your confusion. Simply because you know them doesn't mean thats the norm. The true test of this phrase would be to see how faithful a poor man stays once he gets status and money.

[Vegasrunner]

@mikemcmansion in my opinion guys like yourself who have limited experience with women dont really understand what they want. Women dont cater if a man is young and rich, they only care thats he's rich. Your wife bringing home a woman who wants to sleep with you actually demonstrates low value on your end because she dictates your sexual options.

[MikeMcMansion]

Bro, I lived in the fucking wilderness 300 miles from the nearest city in the closest direction. I was like 22 then as well. It means I chose low hanging fruit…basically I was fished by her,, I wasn’t even fishing I was the prey. And who cares? Degeneracy leads to death. Look at western society, when we did have kids, it was mostly fatherless kids for the last 50 years, and now this degen society isn’t even having kids anymore at replacement level. It’s completely empty and slated for replacement or extinction.

You thinking just being rich is enough means you must not be in a western country, a rich old guy still has to seek to basically purchase a woman he isn’t sought by them unless he’s rich and famous or rich and still handsome somewhat for his age.

[Vegasrunner]

@mikemcmansion That explains your mindset. You didn't have a lot of options so you had to take what you could get. I also see your confusion. I never said being rich is enough, I said when women are deciding what's important to them they choose money over youth. You're also making the cardinal mistake females make by pretending that men need these emotional attachments. A rich old man who can get laid doesn't care whether the woman likes him or not. Thats a female trait.

[MikeMcMansion]

I was at an army hospital recovering from injuries I got in combat when a woman acquaintance from my hometown texted me…option, lol

[MikeMcMansion]

I didn’t need options, i had them, I was depressed and drugged and young

[MikeMcMansion]

I was prey

[Vegasrunner]

@mikemcmansion Your talking about one woman by definition that means you didn't have options.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Some (wrongly in many cases, in my view) believe a man is only faithful to his partner if he's poor and/or ugly, making him unattractive to would-be outside love interests.

[Vegasrunner]

@beefcakebradybatson More if he's poor. Women dont care about men's looks.

[beefcakebradybatson]

I know:Julia Roberts-Lyle Lovett, Angelina Jolie-Billy Bob Thornton, Raquel Welch-Andre Weinfeld and many other Beauty and the Beast pairings. (Of course, the beasts had money !!!) There are few Stud and the Beastess matchups.

[Vegasrunner]

@beefcakebradybatson Outside BBT I dont know anyone on the list, but sounds like you agree that woman dont care about a man's looks?

[beefcakebradybatson]

If he's got CAISH !!!

[Vegasrunner]

@beefcakebradybatson Money helps but it takes more than just that. Men need charisma, style, confidence, height, physical shape etc. All of these things can also attract a woman.

[beefcakebradybatson]

LOTS of handsome but short lads get hot ladies.

[Vegasrunner]

@beefcakebradybatson You would need to weigh that agains handsome tall men for your belief to be accurate.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

It's something women who make bad choices say to avert responsibility.

[LiamJHayden]

It means nothing. A man is as faithful as he chooses to be.

[Vegasrunner]

@LiamJHayden Do you think it is easier for a man to be faithful when he isn't desired by other women?

[Dargil]

Chris Rock condemns his culture. Bible belt Marine are Semper Fidelis

[MrChinaski]

It means she ain't messin' with no broke... err... bro.

[truthteller234]

its when men try to prove that all men are evil

[Vegasrunner]

@truthteller234 Having options makes a man evil?

[truthteller234]

@Vegasrunner

so cheating cuz you have plenty of options does not make you evil?

[Vegasrunner]

@truthteller234 TY for sharing. How is this an answer to my question?

[Jersey2]

No. That is just a man of low morals thinking. Low IQ at its finest.

[DryGermanGuy]

Nothing. It’s silly bla-bla and ragebait.

[robocop666]

You see a better option you leave, is that it?

[MzAsh]

It means they’re thirsty and desperate

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh That doesn't make much sense. If man has options he has no reason to be desperate. If he's limited to only one woman then wouldn't it stand to reason that he would be desperate?

[SaoirseS]

Looks like nonsense to me.