Is dating success with women mainly luck, fate, or something else?

[Anonymous]

[RavVid]

I saw some stuff last week which indicated that what women say they want has nothing do with what they respond to and you are best of ignoring the shit they come out with.

They want male capability, musculature and status.

[Nikki1989]

99% of the time it is something else.

[Asker]

Have you ever turned down a guy had ambition and was well adjusted in life but it just didn't click for you?

[LazerBean]

It's a little luck, but mostly work, skill, and intelligence

[Asker]

Broke no ambition guys are dating right now

[LazerBean]

Yes, and it's because their work and skills are in areas other that the workplace

[Asker]

Plenty of no life crmimals with exceptional skills dating right now and plenty of hardworking nen who get nowhere with women

[Asker]

* exceptional

[LazerBean]

Yes, dating skills. Those are the skills and work I'm speaking of.

[Asker]

But how many men present these skills for women to versus just meeting a woman where things naturally clicked and it went further from there? How is that not luck?

[LazerBean]

Nearly all of them who get women are presenting their social skills. That's why it's pretty much only men without social skills who never get dates.

[Asker]

That's such a broad generalization. Many men out there who dont talk that much who are still dating. There are plenty of introverted men dating.

[LazerBean]

As the boomers say, there are many ways to skin a cat. Not all social techniques require being an extrovert or talking a lot.

[Asker]

Technique doesn't always guarantee good outcomes with people. Luck and fate always do

[LazerBean]

Luck and fate always guarantee a good outcome?

[Asker]

When a man talks to a woman and he's presented himself and shown he's confident, responsible, outgoing and just all around a decent person, he has no comtrol over wether the woman is interested or not. That is up to luck and fate. All he can do at that point is just hope she's interested and says yes

[jahaims]

It's your ability to read a person and then how desirable you are. Luck doesn't exist. Luck is what stupid people use to describe statistics.

[Asker]

Yeah but she still has to decide wether she wants to take things further, not you. You have no control over that meaning at that point luck and fate decides

[scott04sa22]

Need a vehicle to meet the requirements that women wants now

[exitseven]

it a part luck, part skill and part hard work

[Asker]

How much work do actually put in just to be given a chance versus just meeting a woman where things clicked immediately

[exitseven]

There is a lot of recon that goes into it before you have that "chance" meeting.

[In_Trance]

Something else