Women have too much freedom these days. Agree or Disagree?

[Anonymous]

Agree

Disagree

[I-am-a-nobody]

OK, I'll bite and get a bazillion negs...
I think women are too "free" sexually. That is, they exercise their "right" to have sex before marriage and then they're usually miserable for it because they give their bodies to some loser who just wants 3 minutes of fun. So, they get in a relationship with another loser to help them forget the last loser, and so on. It's heartbreaking to see. There are few things that bother me more.

Right now I'm reading the book "the Paradox of Choice". In it the author explains that more choice hasn't made us happier. In fact we are less happy than we were 60 years ago (when we had 3 TV channels). He also emphasizes that the things that limit our freedoms (marriage, children, religion, etc.) are things present in the lives of the happiest people. I don't agree with all his conclusions, but he makes some good points.

[Asker]

I agree. Men have more control over themselves and don't sleep with girls for the hell of it. Men are usually the happier ones and make the better choices. Agree?

[OrangeBoy]

I make you another good point.

A dolphin can be happy in captivity, but also in the ocean even if it dies sooner or suffers more.

Its not about being happy, its about freedom, some will use that well, others not. But the option is open for the risk takers.

Same goes for humans and space exploration. Knowing our skies may make us feel more miserable (or even more special) but we deserve to know this reality, to overcome it and get future beneficts from it.

No, woman do not "usually" feel miserable for having sex before marriage, and if they do its because the guys was shitty, why you bring marriage here?

[I-am-a-nobody]

@Asker
No, I'd say men are making the same poor choices. The difference is women/girls usually form more of an emotional bond in sex. Women are more likely to identify with their own bodies than men. It's more likely you will hear of a women regretting sex than men.

By the way, I emphasize to my sons that they limit their freedom in the realm of sex.
(i. e. Sex in marriage only.)

[Asker]

depends what age the woman is. If they're at college or in their younger years not seeking commitment, they can sleep with a man and not feel regret. I don't think women should be shamed for doing this, as younger men do it too. When you're older, I agree, women should be more cautious in choosing who they sleep with if they're looking for something more longterm. But again, this topic is so diverse and abstract with people's wants and needs. I think waiting for sex after marriage is severely outdated, but that's just my opinion.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@OrangeBoy
The freedom to explore space is one thing, freedom in sexual expression is another.
I'm not sure people are even close to understanding all the repercussions premarital sex has had on our society. One effect is a lack of marital stability.

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I see a lot of women here who mention regret for their sexual choices. I'm sure others don't report it, but the regret is there nonetheless.

[OrangeBoy]

Hey, cheaters will cheat, married or not.
The difference is that the woman does not have to accept it.

[Sakamoto-san]

I don't think people are really understanding what this man is saying, he's not suggesting females shouldn't be 'allowed' to have sexual freedom, he's saying that it's probably better if they are more selective who they sleep with... and I gotta agree with him!

[OrangeBoy]

@Sakamoto-san People understood that, but thats standard, people always did that in general, then some work fine and others not. Surprises happen. Married, or non married.

[Sakamoto-san]

I don't know why you're talking about marriage, he didn't even mention it

[OrangeBoy]

@Sakamoto-san He did... ;)

[Sakamoto-san]

OK my bad. But still statistically speaking he's right!

[BertMacklinFBI]

define freedom?

cause I'm sure men and women, by law, have the same rights.

[Asker]

you're spot on

[MetalMoth]

If were equal than why is there no " Do men have to much freedom these days" bullshit. You asking that question alone proves sexism is still prevalent.

[myriamgh]

It depends where you live. But sure they have too much freedom and sometimes privilege.

[MasterWR]

Women fought for rights only to be able to earn their living with their bodies. I believe this wasn't the intention at first, but now seeing how everyone is so obsessed with female sexuality, I think they were given too much freedom. Ambivalent sexism is in play here - women really believe they enjoy putting lots of effort into their lookings, ESPECIALLY when it brings money, while on the other hand it fosters the contemptuous attitude towards them

[Ice9000]

I think they need equal pay because I want to be a stay at home dad.

[Dred1614returns]

I can't think of any freedoms that women have that I don't.

[Anonymous]

No I think they should have more freedom. And our relationship she's in charge and has all the freedom she wants including sexual freedom

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

Mine don't. I know how to tie a fucking rope.

[karahiri]

uh. no. all people should be free.

[MarieLovesIt]

Oh for Pete's sake! Seriously?

[Anonymous]

Women don't like taking responsibility these days.

[TheNotorious]

yes they can hit men and get away with it

[la200allin]

It's wrong to hit anyone so no one should be able to get away with any kind of abuse.

[Anonymous]

they have too much authority over men's lives.

[frozenhorizon]

wtf wtf

[cupidkisses]

yes definitely

[nalavadeabhijeet]

no way

[LastNightmare]

disagree

[Pimop95]

Disagree

[sexyboy0001]

agree