1. Taxation is not theft. It goes towards building and upkeep of infrastructure, education, emergency services, welfare (which I will agree is bullshit in a lot of cases), mail services, scientific research and data collection, defense of our nation and allied nations, etc. Politicians are generally not the mafia or associated with any known crime rings, unless you count people like the Clinton's.
2. In nature, everyone deserves to die if you aren't willing to fight to live, and that is especially true on the battlefield. Doesn't matter what your convictions are when rounds are flying down range, and behind every tree or in every bush or under every leaf might be your death. You fight for yourself, and for the person to the left and to the right of you. I wouldn't expect you to understand such a concept though given your lack of experience.
3. You did not offer any proof. In fact, you completely deflected the burden of proof onto me to prove your own claims for you. If you are going to make a claim, back it up.
4. I have no need to insult you, but again, you have deflected and offered no credibility in the subject at hand. No sources, no evidence, nothing.
5) By being a citizen of the United States, or any country for that matter, you agree to obey the laws of that nation. If you do not agree with the laws of this nation, go to your local government, and found out how to offically denounce your citizenship.
6. Again, deflection, and the key phrase in that is "vast majority," so good luck.
7. We only commit violence when necessary, such as neutralizing a threat (which does not usually mean killing or maiming as I know you would take it), or in defense of the individuals of this nation, this nation as a whole, and her allies, or to those in this world who cannot defend themselves. Otherwise our jobs as both military and police are peacekeeping and humanitarian in nature, the majority of police and military effort being spent on those two pursuits.
I think women are looking for guys who look like they are noble or strong or one of authority or control. You know, all the stuff they look for in a mate themselves. So if it brings in big bucks as well, that's just a plus all around for them. Also, something with that bit of danger or intrigue to it. SO:
Doctor (any type), Law Enforcement or Military (the uniforms), Firefighter. Those are probably the top 3 I would think. Women go gaga over all those 3 mostly.
Yeah, and they take advantage and cheat.. staying late or on call for "Work" using that money on gaining attention from other people because they can't stay loyal. They are narcissists.
@curiouschick9 Some can be. Sort of like put themselves on a pedestal. Pilots are bad for this as well. But not all are like this mind you. I'm sorry if this happened to you but don't judge all by one asshole.
I would’ve said pilot, or police officer, or lawyer or doctor, but somehow I managed to fall in love with an accountant. 😂
@curiouschick9 stop being so bitter about doctors. You’ve met one bad and you can expect that in just about every single profession. As a medical student and I’ve met tonnes and believe me, doctors do not do what they do for the money or prestige, there are much easier ways to get those two things.
A doctor. I typucally find them conceited and narcasictic, but my significant other is smart, interesting and lovable, plus he gives free medical insight, so I'll go with doctor. Super sexy, more so when I rip his button down off after a long day of exams ;)
I'm dating a medical graduate in his first year of internship and he has proven to be one of the best liars I have ever known. He told me they take classes on how to flex the truth as doctors to avoid being sued and it leaks into his personal life to be a not so transparent person. But Yes, he dresses well and presents himself very nicely which is hot.
I know what you mean about those specific roles, I am dating a med grad in his first year of residency and he wants to go into pediatrics, but he has issues and I recently discovered he has a breast feeding fetish.. he lied to be about it for 2 years.. doctors are excellent at being deceptive and hook up with each other.. which to me overrides the attractive quality of the career. Loyalty is huge for me.
just sickening to me how many women put military/police
you have no idea what you are a part of... no idea at all! Your attraction (which is almost entirely artificial, you are under mind control) serves to perpetuate the GREATEST CYCLE OF VIOLENCE THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN!!!
@Ginfiend there's nothing immoral about being a dancer, a nurse, or a housewife. A nurse/housewife would make an excellent mother, all I see is men who care about their children. Women being attracted to these dogs is a problem though, I explained why above. I can dissect that brief explanation if you want
I'm not too fussed so long as they aren't career obsessed and don't have time for me, or do shift work so it's hard to coordinate our lives together.
For women I think it's different. They tend to prefer guys with manly jobs like being a tradesman or army/police. If you work as a receptionist for example I think you'd lost lose respect in their eyes.
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The only thing that should matter is if the guy is financially independent and not breaking the law.
I’m personally sick of women asking me “what I do” right off the bat. This is a sign that they are insecure about what she will have to say to friends and family about what kind of guy she’s dating.
I work in corporate marketing and it’s not glorious at all. But it has given me a good living, financial stability and flexibility to do what I really love (adventures, exercise, martial arts). So what if I’m not a navy seal, fireman, famous actor, Air Force pilot, etc. I follow the law and support myself.
I dont find professions attractive? Lol I dont really have a specific profession I think is attractive in a guy. I'm in a field that requires logical thinking and some creativity so I guess a guy who is in a field that requires that as well would be attractive.
An E. R. nurse is an attractive profession in my opinion. Tough little chicks who need a present and sharp mind And many of the women who go into nursing do so because they care about people.
Scientist (except chemist they have no chemistry), engineer, writer, journalist, businessman, pilot, sports player. With some of them I like the courage and all that comes with the profession. Scientist cause I love science.
The idea of dating a doctor seems intriguing, however, I’d feel out of their league. I’d presume a doctor would prefer to date someone with their same earning potential, such as another medical professional or lawyer.
For me there isn't a most attractive profession, just many that are. military /firefighter/ police officer/ doctor ( with the exception of gynecologist)/ veterinarian /artist / musician/writer/ Construction/ ETC
Not really. I like a guy for who he is as a person, not what he does. (I mean, for you smart asses out there, being in a porno or being a stripper is different.) Bit yeah I don't let what he does define him. I don't mind
I don't have any preference for what her profession would be, so long as it isn't "lay about the house like a lazy lump". My wife has had time as a housewife due to positions getting cut, and she treated it like her J-O-B JOB at that time. What's not to respect about that? When I've been out of work, house-husband was my J-O-B JOB.
Army, fireman, pilot or carpenter. I like a man who can take care of me and his strong and tuff and is smart, well travelled and creative as well so any of them qualities are great for me.
I personally love guys that work with their hands. I find mechanics and farmers attractive. Don't care for doctors, lawyers, or suited up business men, not my thing.
Usually, I'm just interested in whether or not she's employed. After that, is it something that she finds fulfilling or is it sucking her soul out? To answer your question, something consistent that pays her bills and a little extra. Is she self sufficient or looking at me as a meal ticket?
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In theory I find artists, especially film directors, super attractive (I worked for a while in the film industry so I know many). Than in practice I rather see myself having a stable relationship with someone with a More stable life and income. Also in the film industry there’s a lot of people randomly hooking up with people so I wouldn’t be able to fully trust him.
You're not alone on that. I find farmer/rancher women to be very stimulating both physically and mentally, but then I've always been attracted to animal lovers, intelligence, and independence. There's something about raising horses that seems really... empowering I guess is the best way I can put it into words without having done it myself. I've always admired people that do.
I love teachers because they have the funniest stories, they’ve been around kids all day and are ready for adult stimulation and they have the best hours
you are drawn to dogs. Even the highest ranking military man is a dog, a slave to politicians. Now why don't you go and call me a crazy conspiracy theorist like everybody else... women should be drawn to natural leaders, real leaders, people who take orders from no one but god or whatever higher moral authority they perceive.
Bluedream13, I would watch your damned mouth, because there are vets and active duty here, myself included. Obviously you don't know a damned thing about me and mine, so how about you piss off with your uninformed bullshit.
@WrathXXI You wanna have a conversation or you gunna threaten me? Ladies and gentlemen, THE MILITARY!!! Happy to shoot any dissonant viewpoint, makes for GREAT FUN DURING POLITICAL REVOLUTIONS you know one thing they won't do though?
READ A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK!!!
Why the hell should I watch my mouth about this? Are we not free to speak our minds? I have nothing but disgust for you people and I should be free to express it. I'm not hating you for your race, your looks, any bullshit like that, I hate you because of what you signed up for. I don't know if you know it, and many in your situation have turned around and realized what a shitshow they are involved in, but buddy, let me tell you, you took a wrong turn.
You are literally a sacrifice. There's so much more going on here than you can possibly imagine. Actually stop and consider what I'm saying for a second, if you decided not to shoot me, and maybe re-assess if this is what you want. I'm happy to explain myself if u listen
Perhaps, I can even enlighten you on the true nature of military service and correct your obviously bias and severely tilted view. I have no regrets of serving. I was a CH-53E mechanic in the USMC. I've deployed, done my job, and now am currently going to school for mechanical engineering. So before you make any claims pertaining to my intelligence, I would advise you keep that in mind.
I would also like to inform you that besides putting warheads on foreheads, we also serve a humanitarian so successfully, we have been asked to leave countries because we were out performing the home nation. And yes, this has happened, famously in Japan after the tsunamis. We also do community outreach, and many of us volunteer on our off time at places like the Boys and Girls Club, animal shelters, churches, etc. We sacrifice a lot, but we are not lambs being led to slaughter. We do what we do, and we do it effectively.
So let's have this conversation, because everyone who reads this thread is about to become very educated.
@WrathXXI I'm delighted that you've chosen to engage me here, not everyone who joins the military is stupid, but you all lack a good understanding of history, so you are uneducated. Nothing you can tell me is going to trump the logic I am about to present you.
I have to ask you some questions. First of all, who do you think you work for? Do you think you work for the people? I think people in the military don't have a very good understanding of how politics work (most people don't) but it goes like this:
The wars that are going to happen have nothing to do with the will of the people. They are a modern version of ritual sacrifice and you are the lamb. The multinational, financial elite ultimately decide when these rituals will occur. You have unknowingly agreed to be their pawn, and lord I wish you'd hear how they talk about you... they call you their dogs, stupid dogs that deserve to die... your owners disrespect you more than I ever could, I want you to be free
@WrathXXI You have agreed to serve something beyond your understanding, this much is clear, let's go further.
So you may be one of the fairly innocent ones, you just repair stuff, sounds cool I love fixing things too I'm sure you're a cool guy, I think of you as a healer that helps the enemy team. You are ultimately just healing, so I can't call you evil since you don't directly commit any heinous acts, but you are aiding others to do so. You have invested time and energy down the wrong path, you have a stake in the bad guy winning. Any time you join a state run army, you have joined the bad guy.
What orders would you be willing to follow? If they ordered you to be part of a firing squad and you had no idea who it was you were executing, would you do it?
Throughout history the greatest acts of terror have always been committed by a state run army. Just people following orders. You gave up your right to free will long ago
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@WrathXXI I’m with you on this, it’s common sense that you get good and bad everywhere you go, but in my experience at least, there are some very good people in the military that I know, and it sickens and disappoints me to hear such ridiculously ignorant words towards them.
@Bluedream13 I am open to the truth, make no mistake about that, I don’t pretend anything is perfect. So before you’re so quick to judge and condemn one aspect you’ve had no first hand experience in yourself, can I ask what it is that you do for work on a daily basis?
@Sienna-Rose I work in service. A perfectly moral job where every interaction is VOLUNTARY!!! KEY WORD VOLUNTARY!!! I don't point my gun at people and force them to do things, nor once I sign up am I forced to follow orders that I disagree with morally. I will not be put in restaurant jail for doing what I know to be right when asked to do something wrong, assuming I ever get into such a situation which is not common in my line of work. Do I think I'm some hero? No, and neither should any military personnel.
I was never in nazi germany, do I need first hand experience to judge hitler or his men?
Answer that question please before trying to apply stupid logic infront of me, you don't need experience in every evil occupation/deed to condemn it.
You do actually need first hand experience in many things to truly understand it!! To assume otherwise is actually ‘stupidity’ on your part my friend as you so politely atriculeted it. 🙄 If you’re not currently balanced with such an aggressive tone I’ve no interest in communicating with such ignorant idiocy! Those that know know, and that’s all that matters.
@Sienna-Rose oh my god... you won't answer the question and you are going to ignore me because you can't keep up. You can't just assert the same thing you asserted before without tackling the argument I made against it! Your military friend has the balls to take my slings and arrows and still engage in conversation, why don't you learn something from him since you admire the military so much? Answer my goddamn question!
I was never in nazi germany, do I need first hand experience to judge hitler or his men?
I want you to realize your logic is flawed. You do need first hand experience in many things to truly understand it, yes, but I don't need first hand experience with the aurora shooter to judge him! I don't need first hand experience with a slaughterhouse to know I don't want to eat dead flesh! Is this sinking in or are you gunna ignore something that forces you to change your opinion?
I am laughing so damned hard right now. You have no idea how hard I laughed at all this as soon as you read it. I thought it was just going to be some ignorant hippie bullshit, but you, Bluedream, went so far as to include conspiracy theories! HAHAHAHA!
I sincerely thought we were going to have an honest and intellectual conversation, but Jesus Christ if I didn't get the parody of dipshit instead! Thanks for the laugh, bud. We all got a good laugh.
@WrathXXI *facepalm* situations like this really make me wanna give up. You tell people the truth they laugh in your face and continue to be complicit in immoral acts. Conspiracy theories... most people hear this term and their programming takes over. I need to find a better way of introducing this shit to the ignorant... problem is y'all are actually choosing to remain ignorant! The girl won't even answer one fucking question because she knows what the answer is and it will devalue the logic she was attempting to use.
I was never in nazi germany, do I need first hand experience to judge hitler or his men?
An answer please. Oh my god I can just imagine back in when hitler was rising to power, some people muttering "hey maybe you shouldn't join the military, who knows what immoral acts you may end up having to commit!"
and then fucking IDIOTS LIKE YOU would laugh in their face as they don the uniform "LOL CONSPIRACY THEORIES FUCKING HIPPIE LOLOLOL"
So Bluedream, now that you have let out all your rope, let me hang you with it with a few questions of my own.
Do you have any experience with or for any government agency at any point in your life?
During the Vietnam was, and previous wars, the Selective Service, also known as the draft, was used to conscript forces. Did those normally unwilling participants deserve to die as well?
What proof/ evidence do you have to support your international elites theory?
How does your burger flipping career offer any expertise or experience on military, national, or international affairs and the vast complexities therein?
What proof do you offer that any state run military group is by default corrupt and morally bankrupt?
What evidence do you offer to suggest that the vast majority of military members would not/ have not questioned/ objected to unlawful and/or immoral orders?
And lastly, what moral high ground do you offer that is at all better than the men and women I have served side by side with, gone to church with, deployed with, baby sat for, gone to the weddings of, and have been the keepers of?
@WrathXXI you can't just say 'now that you've asked your question I'm gunna ask 20 of my own' without RESPONDING TO MY ONE QUESTION. I'll do you the courtesy of responding to yours now if you PROMISE TO RESPOND TO MINE AFTER.
1. My level of experience with any agency doesn't change basic facts that literally cannot be argued. Military are funded with stolen money, they are bodyguards for the mafia (politicians). 2. A truly unwilling participant would go to prison and refuse to comply with any order, turn limp and let them do with you what they will. Since they were threatened into action though they don't deserve to die according to a nice guy like me but according to nature they do, which is why many of them did. 3. You want proof for international elites? My god man... it's literally all around you. Many people ignore proof because they list the race of the perpetrators, many of them are white jews, like myself, but I wasn't from a ruling family, we were humble priests
@WrathXXI 4. I rarely cook burgers and did you know that one is capable of drawing experience from places OTHER THAN WORK? Or did you think as soon as I leave work my brain loses the ability to process information? Insulting to say the least. 5. All state run groups are funded by stolen money and therefore are morally bankrupt. Beyond that, the military and police are the ones literally taking you to prison if you should refuse to comply with the state's theft and if you stand your ground you will be killed. 6. Oh my god this is funny... what evidence do I have to suggest that members of the military would do fucked things if ordered to? I'm going to assume you are joking and move on, ask me again if you were serious about that one because I don't believe you 7. What moral high ground do I offer? It's called the non aggression principle. I don't initiate force against others because someone gives me an order. Military and police do, and anyone working for the state is complicit init
@WrathXXI so now that I've answered 7 of your questions, will you answer my one question for the poor girl who can't seem to do it either?
I was never in nazi germany, do I need first hand experience to judge hitler or his men?
Because you two seem to keep arguing that I'm not qualified to judge heinous acts of which I was not involved in. If you think about it for a second you'll realize how stupid that logic is
I will answer your question, though it is not the answer you will like. In order to properly judge Hitler or any of his men, you would need to know each individual's actions, inactions, and motivation behind those actions, as well as their level of knowledge and responsibility concerning the events taking place.
1. Taxation is not theft. It goes towards building and upkeep of infrastructure, education, emergency services, welfare (which I will agree is bullshit in a lot of cases), mail services, scientific research and data collection, defense of our nation and allied nations, etc. Politicians are generally not the mafia or associated with any known crime rings, unless you count people like the Clinton's.
2. In nature, everyone deserves to die if you aren't willing to fight to live, and that is especially true on the battlefield. Doesn't matter what your convictions are when rounds are flying down range, and behind every tree or in every bush or under every leaf might be your death. You fight for yourself, and for the person to the left and to the right of you. I wouldn't expect you to understand such a concept though given your lack of experience.
3. You did not offer any proof. In fact, you completely deflected the burden of proof onto me to prove your own claims for you. If you are going to make a claim, back it up.
4. I have no need to insult you, but again, you have deflected and offered no credibility in the subject at hand. No sources, no evidence, nothing.
5. By being a citizen of the United States, or any country for that matter, you agree to obey the laws of that nation. If you do not agree with the laws of this nation, go to your local government, and found out how to offically denounce your citizenship.
6. Again, deflection, and the key phrase in that is "vast majority," so good luck.
7. We only commit violence when necessary, such as neutralizing a threat (which does not usually mean killing or maiming as I know you would take it), or in defense of the individuals of this nation, this nation as a whole, and her allies, or to those in this world who cannot defend themselves. Otherwise our jobs as both military and police are peacekeeping and humanitarian in nature, the majority of police and military effort being spent on those two pursuits.
@WrathXXI You are damn right it's not the answer I would like, and it perfectly sums up why you are a piece of shit. IT DOES NOT MATTER the reason for their actions! IT IS NOT the thought that counts, when we are talking about trained killers committing genocide and other heinous crimes.
All that matters is that these order following fools, not so different from you, carried out terrible acts. No justification changes this! I am absolutely done talking to you after that answer, you are way, wayyyy too difficult a case for even me to handle, and I'm patient compared to most people with my level of understanding of these matters.
'In order to properly judge Hitler or any of his men, you would need to know each individual's actions, inactions, and motivation behind those actions, as well as their level of knowledge and responsibility concerning the events taking place. "
^purest bullshit, and I checkmated you into saying that so everyone could see what an idiot you are.
You didn't checkmate me into saying anything, nor is it bullshit. Intent and motivation are very much a part of crime. Hence the reason Hitler and his brass were charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity, as well as SS and other forces, but not the janitors or the regular foot soldiers, mechanics janitorial staff, etc. Most had nothing to do with the genocide, and many disagreed assuming they even knew what was going on, because many had no information to work with because they were constantly moving. I do not at all condone Nazism, genocide, racism, anti-Semitism, or any of that other crap. The only blindly prejudice person here is you.
Motivation and intent are the difference between self defense and homicide. Reasons and circumstance are EXTREMELY important.
The only piece of shit here is you, due to your own arrogant ignorance. The only people of your "level of understanding" are little relatively unimportant folk who do no research, look for no greater or more complete understanding of the severely complex thing that is existence, and ultimately do not care about any point of view other than your own, which anyone can see is extremely limited in capacity.
I am too difficult because you do not have the knowledge, understanding, cognitive ability, nor platform to compete with me.
Doesn't matter how patient you are. You are simply intellectually and morally outmatched.
The only thing you've won is the opportunity to put yourself on display. You think you are the king, but you played the part of the fool.
@WrathXXI Listen here buddy, I don't give a shit what the law says and I don't give a shit what you say, there is right and there is wrong, man's law, your opinion, this things have no bearing on TRUTH.
I don't need to know Hitler's motivation or his men's motivations to judge them. They committed acts that were OBJECTIVELY WRONG and it does not matter WHY because the why doesn't change what happened. Innocents were killed by order following morons like you and those killers deserve what's coming to them, along with all those supporting them, yeah that's right, the nazi mechanics deserved the worst too, sorry pal!
@WrathXXI it's absurd that you think you have beaten me here, only explanation for it is the dunning kruger effect. First response to my rebuttal of point #1 starts off with the words
"taxation is not theft" and then goes on to explain what taxation is used for and how it's for my benefit. Okay, so you are saying it's for my benefit that I am stolen from, how exactly does that make it not theft? Let's try and focus on this single point for now before we go into any other retardation (politicians not being associated with mafia/crime/pedophile ring shit except the clintons HAHAHAH naive idiot the clintons have been running america for decades along with other sickos) but anyways point #1, let's go
Taxation is theft. Look up the definition of the word theft and tell me that taxation does not fit within it.
Theft : the act of stealing; specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it
I already explained that taxation is not theft, but since you have once again proved that you are a bit dense, I'll try again. If you a citizen of the United States, live in the United States, or do business with the United States or her citizens, you agreeing to abide by the laws, regulations, and statutes of this nation.
Let me simplify it for your simple brain. If you live in America, you are agreeing to America's laws, which includes taxation. By agreeing to it, taxation is not theft. If you don't want to pay taxes any longer, then renounce your citizenship, and move to a place were taxation does not exist.
If you don't like that option, then either figure out a way to change the laws and regulations of the United States or attempt to overthrow the government.
If you attempt to get into politics, good luck with that because I can just about guarantee you won't win anywhere that has any even semi-sane population. If you attempt to overthrow the government, then you and I would potentially get to meet.
There, now I've not only told you how taxation is not theft, but I went the extra mile to provide you solutions as to how you might get either get away from it or change it.
@WrathXXI Dude, america is a huge swathe of land, it's complete bullshit to say that if you are born anywhere in this massive area that you automatically must pay the tithe. How would you feel if a company dominated the vast majority of liveable space on your continent and said 'as long as your feet are standing on this land you have to pay the ceo a percentage of everything you earn'
I never agreed to any tithe, I was born in this land and this land is my home. Any government claiming to have jurisdiction over it, I do not acknowledge. You are a brainwashed into thinking taxation isn't theft and reciting state propaganda, but if you look at YOUR OWN EXPLANATION you will realize that this still falls under the category of theft. By the way
where the fuck does taxation not exist? Name one place in the world. Every habitable biome on this planet is run by a mafia called government, I cannot believe that you think it's okay for a company to claim jurisdiction over such large landspace
The US government has had domain over this land officially since 1776 on the East Coast, and has since then bought or conquered the rest of its land. The states of Alaska and Hawaii were both admitted into the Union as states in 1959 (they were still US territories before). I would argue, assuming your age of 34 is correct. This means the whole of the United States existed prior to you, and therefore has more claim to this land than you. If you want to compare it to a company, you owe that company for being born and existing on it's land, for the company's protection, and for services offered and rendered. If you do not want to pay, and want to spit in the company's face, then you should leave the company's property and any access you have to said services and protection. None of this falls under the definition of theft.
I find it funny how you are very quick to claim not to recognize the United States government's authority, and yet it seems you are unwilling to give up your membership to this nation. A bit hypocritical of you. Either that, or you are just hoping for a free pass on everything the US has to like a greedy little leech instead of being obligated to contribute like the rest of us. Frankly, I think you are the latter.
I'd be careful. You keep trying to engage me and your true colors will show. I would advise you quit while you are behind, but I'm having too much fun toying with you. Not that you give me much, since all you are using is very flimsy pathos type responses.
@WrathXXI THIS IS TO BIG A PROPERTY FOR A COMPANY TO OWN AND IT'S BULLSHIT!!
I was born on this land and my allegiance is to THIS LAND, not the lords who claim it is theirs! I do not give up my membership TO THIS LAND ON WHICH I WAS CONCEIVED, but the state needs to be obliterated, for the good of the earth and all living creatures on it, the state must be destroyed. All defenders and upholders of the state, come to my side before it's too late or you will suffer
Bluedreams, you made me laugh lol. If you wish to meet me and mine on the battlefield, so be it, but it will not end well for you. I swore an oath to uphold the ideals of the Constitution and to defend the people of the United States, against all threats, both foreign and domestic.
If we were to hypothetically meet on the battlefield, I just want you to realize something. It was never my job to die for my ideals or my people. My job was to make sure my enemy died for theirs.
@WrathXXI yeah and it's his job to make sure you die for yours genius, that's the game and you're both sacrifices. Your just too STUPID and brainwashed to realize it! I'm not stupid enough to meet you on the battlefield, I don't initiate violence against anyone, and I'm certainly not trying to initiate violence against you, I'm actually trying to help you.
If someone is open minded enough to believe that a stranger on the internet, maybe even a belligerent offensive one could teach them something, they will learn from me. If not, have fun with ignorance.
I don't think anyone can be stupid and fix $24 million dollar aircraft, or pursue mechanical engineering.
You are right though, you probably have nothing to teach me. After all, so far you have offered no credibility, no evidence, or sources. Your arguments and counterarguments are easily ripped through like tissue paper. If only your arguments were as solid as your skull, because God knows you've been too dense to see logic.
Until you have some actual evidence or sources to offer, there is really nothing more to discuss. You have lost every argument, falling back on your conspiracy theories, which so far remain foundationless. You have also demonstrated that your lack of understanding of the way the world works, and your thought processes (if you can call them that) are so generalized and presumptuous that it's no wonder you have failed to engage me in any real intellectual exchange.
You simply lack either the knowledge or the intelligence to understand the nuances, specifics, and complexities of the world we live in. You probably should stick to flipping burgers instead of trying to teach what you clearly have no understanding of.
@WrathXXI Yeah I'm done here, you are pulling the classic 'i've won every argument' argument while having in fact LOST EVERY ARGUMENT. We can't have a conversation if I show you a blue slate and you call it black. I don't need evidence for what I'm saying, some things can be discerned through logic alone, at least for one who is capable of deductive reasoning. You, like many, are not. You just hear things and believe them if they come from an authority figure. Brainwashed moron.
Bluedreams, you literally just pulled what you accused me of, and then went on to attempt to claim that my intelligence is the reason you have failed to provide any evidence, support, or sources for your claims. You have no foundation for the arguments you are attempting to build, which is the reason they keep crumbling. I'm not a brainwashed moron, you just simply suck at this! Lol
@WrathXXI Like i said, I'm done talking to you. You are completely delusional as far as this conversation is concerned.
The reason I know you are a bullshitter is because you never cite specifics in your responses. You asked for evidence and I sent you a list of the people I was referring to, and you are free to google any one of those names and have my claims proven, BUT YOU CLEARLY DID NOT because you do not care to know the truth, you just want to convince yourself that you are right and I am wrong so you don't have to make any big life changes..
Fucking typical. Why don't you try formulating a response where you cite specifics so that I can actually rebut you?
And by the way, your earlier assertion that the military only act in self defense is COMPLETE HORSESHIT and I shouldn't need any evidence to prove this. This is common knowledge. Have you never seen pics of soldiers guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan? Have you never seen ac130 footage of bombing civilians?
Give me something you want a source for and I'll provide you with a source or sources, which is something you have yet to offer or provide. I will give you that you at least provided a definition of the word Theft, but that's about it lol.
I never said that the military acts in self defense only. Go ahead and quote me if you think I did. Go ahead and try, but I did read back through out conversation, so good luck with that lol.
You have not provided any names this entire time. Go ahead and look back. Take your time.
I am familiar with the military guarding different assets after driving out opposition. The military will guard them in order to keep assets such as oil and poppy away from the enemy without destroying the asset so they can later be fully returned to the locals. We don't take them over, but we do restrict access. (Poppies are used in the creation of opiates. Drugs provide a lot of funding to organizations such as al-Qaeda and ISIS).
I am not familiar with the specific bombing you are talking about. Please provide a link and I will investigate the matter. Just realize that civilians do get caught in the crossfire on rare occasions. It is a terrible tragedy when it happens, but unfortunately that is the nature of war. However, I doubt you have the experience to draw on to understand that.
@WrathXXI "We only commit violence when necessary, such as neutralizing a threat (which does not usually mean killing or maiming as I know you would take it), or in defense of the individuals of this nation, this nation as a whole, and her allies, or to those in this world who cannot defend themselves."
dude watch the ac130 footage, I'm not gunna serve these links up to you on a silver platter, utter wanton disregard for life as they casually bomb 100 civs to get one guy. Everyone knows power corrupts and that military men rape and abuse local women everywhere they go. Yeah I did provide a definition for the word theft, and taxation fits into that definition, you tried to rationalize it so it doesn't but it does and I invite you to try again to prove to me why taxation isn't theft which is the crux of my entire argument against the state. I did give you a link with a list of names not my fault you chose to ignore it
I already adequately proved that taxation isn't theft, so we are not going down that rabbit hole again because otherwise we are just going to end up saying the same damned things over and over.
What you quoted goes on to describe more than just self defense. I invite you to break that down and actually understand what I am saying there instead of cherry picking.
The incident I am finding involving an AC-130 was a Doctors without Borders hospital being accidentally targeted when confused with a Taliban command center approximately 400 meters away. The crew of the AC-130 executed the airstrike and upon finding out they failed to target the right building, were all disciplined accordingly.
Just a little FYI, AC-130s are gunships, not bombers. They don't have bombs equipped.
@WrathXXI taxation is theft and you didn't prove shit so let's start right there. Not going down rabbit holes is exactly your problem and why you refuse to understand everything I'm trying to communicate right now.
Taxation is theft because it is involuntary. Your argument that being a citizen of a country legitimizes it is COMPLETE AND UTTER HORESHIT. Every government in the world is corrupt to the core and you are simply to naive to understand that. They take the money, say one thing, do another, cost us lives and more, OUR CHILDRENS FUTURE we are literally paying for the destruction of.
Every government in the world is just a mafia with a territorial claim on a certain piece of land. You have joined one of those mafias. Your level of understanding in this area is that of a child, you haven't even begun the intellectual journey into realizing what's going on here on this planet
Taxation is not theft because it is in fact voluntary. You are either a citizen of the United States or you can voluntarily decline your citizenship through official channels. Once again, I will point out your apparent refusal to give up your citizenship, because you are a member of this supposively corrupt nation.
Your understanding of world politics is much more comparable to that of misinformed child than mine, but then again, and by your own admission, you have no experience or expertise in the matter, so its understandable as to why that is. You claim that the United States government is corrupt to the core, and yet it is the people who elect those officials. If anything, you are calling every voting or politically active citizen corrupt by extension. Let me ask you this, what have you ever done to remedy this, if anything? Something tells me the only thing that works is your mouth while your hands remain idle, so to speak.
@WrathXXI yeah it's totally the people who elect those officials, that's why the clintons and the bushes hover around the whitehouse generation after generation, YOU ARE NAIVE!!!
This democracy is an illusion, your dollar is the only vote that actually counts. Also taxation is theft no matter which government does it, the 'united states' whatever make believe entity that is cannot claim jurisdiction over this large an area of land and collect from everyone living on it. It's preposterous and it is theft. You can argue that I agree to be a citizen by living here but if I'm born here, what then? You say I must renounce my citizenship, but why? Why does somebody have a right to tax me on the land on which I was born? I never agreed to anything, and I should not be forced to leave this land if I don't pay the corrupt mafia who are currently running it. You lack a true American spirit. America used to be about freedom, and rebellion. You are a house slave
Bluedream, families such as the Bush's and the Clinton's have only become multi-generational because their family members remain active in politics, and because their name now carries notoriety with it for a multitude of reasons, such as previous offices held, previous policies, laws, mistakes, actions, scandals, etc. I have yet to see any evidence that they are operating as some underground shadow government as you seem to be suggesting.
I already know you are going to say "Well you are just too stupid/ niave/ brainwashed to see it. The proof is right in front of you." as you have tried saying multiple times before, which is a deflection of burden of proof, and we both know it. It's not my job to back up your arguments, it's yours. It's a very transparent tactic and just makes you appear to be an unknowledgable fool unable to do anything more than make outlandish claims without having the spine to back it up. Claims are not evidence, and I have called for evidence multiple times. It's almost like you are more full of hot air than an air balloon, except an air balloon at least has results.
I would like to remind you that you have no authority as to how much land can be claimed by any individual or entity. I would also like to remind you that the if every individual had a claim on the land they were born, everyone would be fighting over hospitals because everyone would have a claim on it. Actually, let's use the example of the hospital, because I think it might be small scale enough to wrap your mind around.
According to your claims, anyone born in a hospital has a claim on the land on which they are born, despite the hospital, like the United States, having pre-existed and already having a claim before you are born. By your thoughts on taxation, it would be theft for a hospital to charge for services rendered such as food, space on the property and in the building, utilities, staff, and other services. Wow, it almost seems like another way to describe taxation!
Now, I think it would be ludicrous to sit in a hospital and demand the same services, free of charge, and then also claim not to recognize the authority of the hospital, and their rules. They still have to pay for their supplies, time of the employees, upkeep of the buildings and property, the roads and parking lots, the utilities, etc. So, either you agree to the hospital's terms, you leave the hospital, or in your case, you whine and bitch and complain, make wild accusations and claims, and just annoy the crap out of everyone while flipping burgers in the cafeteria despite your unwillingness to leave, inability to come up with a solution to your gripes, and inability to back up any of your claims in the first place. You just end up being looked at as an out-of-touch, self-entitled prick. And I'll tell you, that would be an apt description.
Also FYI, the United States system of is a Republic, not a democracy. I know a lot of people are confused by that sense the full title is Democratic Republic, but democratic refers to the way we vote for our representatives, and representatives are a tell-tale for a republic.
Don't claim I don't have the American spirit just because I have a working knowledge of the world. America is about freedom, and I support that, but it is not about rebellion. Rebellion is only a tool needed to fight what is unjust, and only when circumstances require. I wholeheartedly believe in individual freedoms, and have fought to defend that. I have fought for the freedom of speech and exchange of ideas. This is why I debate with you, and why I have never told you to shut up entirely. I've told you that you are a fool, that you need to do research, that you are outlandish, that your arguments lack any substance, but never have I tried to take away your ability to speak. After all, how else am I going to get a good laugh? Lol
@WrathXXI I'm gunna stop you right there... america is 100% about rebellion, that is more what it is about than anything. America is the colony that rebelled against it's owners for what, a 3% tax? And look what we stand for now... the spirit of america is dead and people like you killed it. The burden of proof is on both of us, you seem to think it's on me because you have more fools believing your side, but really we share it. I know america is a republic, but most people think it is a democracy, also if you took out the democratic element completely america would be a much, much better country. It worked great as a republic when the government had little power and military action had to be taking by civil militias VOLUNTARILY!!! In my ideal world, you don't have a 'claim' to the land on which you are born, but you do have the RIGHT TO BE LEFT ALONE, which is another fundamental right that all americans SHOULD have. What exactly do you want me to prove? Everything is self evident
I’m attracted to protective roles duh as medical, military, law enforcement, fireman etc. They seem to require assertiveness, bravery and command respect.
I wouldn't look for someone with a specific profession
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I particularly love men that work in specific trades, teach children, or are nurses. I don’t particularly care for men who work office jobs that have no basic repair skills, or those who have no empathy or patience for children or the elderly.
In a perfect, unrealistic world I'd be with a dancer/artist cause dancers have most gorgeous bodies and artists have the most beautiful minds. But in reality if I like the girl I just want her to do what makes her happy.
I used to repair, replace and install air conditioning, heating and refrigeration systems. I'm not doing that now But I do still somewhat "fix" machinery.
It doesn't really matter to me as long as our personalities match and we bond together well. A profession just shows what they are interested in and their true colour.
Ones regarding creativity and intelligence, or being super fit. lol (Very different, I know. I want a mix between a Disney Princesses and Wonder Woman. rofl) Mostly the first one, though.
And ladies, please don't take it negatively. Homemaker is a respectable "profession" too. For millenniums, when women assume that role, families were strong and children were well taken care off. And statistically, before industrialization, divorce rates was lower, much lower.
So it's not about feminism or whatever-ism. When a man is satisfied with sex and food, he fights hard for his wife and children. The result is a happier and stronger family.
@partydelights women will gladly throw away a strong family and strong kids who can take on the world just so they can continue to compare themselves to men. They’re like little kids. “But mommy, he gets to do so and so, why can’t I”
I have found as I get to know more doctors that they are not a very honest bunch and are highly likely to cheat. They will never admit fault to anything for fear of losing the career that they had to fight and cheat for so long to get.
Amen to that. Besides, surgeons have higher psychopathic tendencies. The focus and self-discipline needed to become one will do that to you. I’d know - I was involved with a neurosurgeon
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