Whys it that if you are too outspoken in a job you get fired?

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I find it happened a few times, especially as a female, it's like you get 10 times more run over by it. Obviously I don't mean going outright bashing everyone, even saying something bold about urself and personal life. It'd kind of like you're always expected to keep quiet and just keep to ur job? Or only the boys are allowed to talk?

Flatmanlewis · Accepted Answer

There is a fine line between being outspoken, in an appreciated and valued way. Contributing to conversations about common work goals and sorting through problems. Leading the group through different situations. They aren’t afraid to get into the uncomfortable topics BUT, if they can’t do so with tact then they are useless as people are more important than problems. You have to be bold but only in a positive way. Point out strengths of others and not flaws.

Then, there are people who are just loud, boisterous, and think they are entitled an opinion on everything and everyone. These people can be destructive to a team dynamic as they overpower fresh ideas, stifle innovation, and think gossip is the same as being bold. They are quick to point out faults and often minimize or ignore significant contributions by others. Worse, they think they have a understanding of teammates based on their own narrow field of view or optics.

Add to this there is a definite “hot chick bias”. I’ve seen it so many times at work where some pretty girl shows up and there is an immediate cadre of, put politely, not so attractive women, who just don’t like her. Women can be petty and mean.

Male or female, spend some time figuring out where the problems really is? The several organizations that cut me loose, or maybe just me?

Texaskid1 · Accepted Answer

Sad but true.

And it is when you speak the truth that you get in trouble. Some years ago we had a branch supervisor that was having an affair with an assistant supervisor. We all found out when his wife came to the building and caused such a huge scene that she had to be escorted out of the building. To this day it is still gossip fodder. But nobody said shit. At least not publicly. Why? Well who is going to risk their job by calling out the perverted , adulterous supervisor?

On another I occasion as I turned the corner from one hallway to the next to get to my office I witnessed my department supervisor - another married man - doing some heaving hitting with a much younger female coworker of mine. They were not outright making out but it was obvious he was hitting on her and she seemed to be into it. I walked right past them as if I did not see a thing. I never said anything to anyone at work although it did lower my opinion of both of them and did confirm some suspicions I had at the time.

There have also been cases of people harassing others, altering data, and a bunch of shady things. And a lot of this happens all the time but most people will keep their mouths shut.

BigAssB1tch · Accepted Answer

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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

It's not about your gender. It's about knowing how to be professional. You can't just say whatever you want whenever you want. You have to have some social skills and know what is, and isn't, okay to say in a given situation or company. If you think you "have the right to speak your mind" on the job, yeah you're gonna put yourself at risk of losing your job. That goes for anyone.

Jersey2 · Answer

It depends on 2 things. First, were you right? If not, you are a distraction and cause hesitation and upheaval.

Second, even if you are right, do they want to hear it? Does it make them look bad or undermine them? Can they even do anything about it? If so, you are pissing off your bosses and they will see you go rather than them look bad. A high risk strategy would be to get the ideas above them but even if successful at that you may run into trouble with your boss when no one is looking, say 18 months after the fact.

Lastly, if you are getting resistance, come with not just the problem but a workable solution.

Anonymous · Answer

Especially as a female? Bullshit.

People who mouth off in a professional environment are jusdged for it, regardless of their sex. The only difference is that women have their sex as a scapegoat they can blame everything on, whereas men have to face the fact they screwed up and deal with it, without excuses or scapegoats

Lose your victim complex and work on yourself, without excuses. You'll be a better person for it, and the world will be a better place with one less false victim in it.

mobiusforniner · Answer

Your career success requires social adaptation and self evolution. No one size solution fits all. An outspoken personality may work in certain professions, but not others. You need to be emotionally intelligent- that is, being self aware and cognizant of the feelings around you

Anonymous · Answer

🤣 So what you're saying is you used to getting your way as a woman. And you found a place in your life where that doesn't fly. No matter how much you distort reality.

Corporations exist for 1 thing and 1 thing only. The furthering of that entity. Get in it's way and you'll be run over. Buck the system and you'll be run over. Don't play ball and you'll be run over. You can have more say. But you have to rise through the ranks. But it'll still NEVER be your way or the highway. If you haven't figured this out by your age life is going to be hard gor you.

ZackBan · Answer

Pretty sure female has nothing to do with it. If anything companies tend to pamper the women so they can brag about inclusivity.

If you're getting fired it means you REALLY crossed a line.

And yeah, actions have consequences

DannyUk2017 · Answer

I always Break That ONE RULE, I always Befriend people at work, when clearly the rule says "No one is you FRIEND at work, so don't divulge peronal stuff to them". Well shit happens! 🤷‍♂️

sheikalana · Answer

You’re not getting paid to give your opinion. You’re getting paid to do your job and act professionally.

AliceM611 · Answer

You are paid to do a job, if you are disruptive or a PC liability you get canned

Sharkstealth · Answer

If your company is not union then you have kiss ass or suck dick or just never speak at work. That's what I've found in working since I was 12.

ChicoFromThe305 · Answer

Cause freedom of speech is a lie lol

Joker_ · Answer

gotta be obedient

Anonymous · Answer

A Karen.

Whys it that if you are too outspoken in a job you get fired?

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