Should cursive still be taught in schools?

[msc545]

Instruction hours are precious and to use some of these hours on a mechanical skill that has no practical use anymore seems wasteful to me.

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+1 y

Your experience is your experience. You cannot be generalized to others. If you're taking a logic class which I gather you skipped, you would know this already.

[Sour-rose]

Yeaaah. Some jobs require you know cursive, so you show you know how to follow directions and have some knowledge of it.

And unlike regular writing, it's your signature of writing. If you write plainly for anything, even a contract, well... what's so special about that

[msc545]

What jobs would these be, and why do they require it? I doubt there are any.

[Sour-rose]

... hhhhhhhm. I would say those private kind of jobs? Security? Ama- lol hell no. But jobs were not just anyone can get in. And like i said, make sure you have knowledge about it. Otherwise, they think you're a non graduate dumb n**ga

[msc545]

I've had many jobs. I've never been asked if I can write script.

[msc545]

I have an undergraduate degree and two graduate degrees, so I'm far from uneducated. Even so, I can't write in cursive and have no desire to do so. It's a waste of my time.

[Sour-rose]

Huh... very interesting.

[Kingofkings1992]

No jobs require you to use cursive. Lmao

[RealMarek]

Yes. It is an art, and there is value teaching an art. Also, one might find oneself reviewing old records and understanding cursive, even though the style has changed over the years, could make the difference between being able to read the old records or not.

Instruction hours, despite the standards mandating 60 minutes of this and 90 minutes of that, are wasted like crazy in discipline cases and dead time. Nothing will improve until teachers have real means of discipline that students want to avoid (very hard labor, marching in formation as punishment, etc.) or school is made non-mandatory with students who do not want to be there allowed to leave or be expelled from the system. If we chose one path or the other the school day could be shortened to four hours and performance, given curriculum fixes like banning “whole language” and the like, would improve greatly. We simply cannot have both lax discipline and compulsory education. It doesn’t work.

[slatyb]

If you want to teach art, then teach art - drawling and fainting in coils.

[Static_In_The_Attic]

As for cursive it was taught in schools & in or around 2010 it became a thing of the past so so did paper in the classroom & that paper was replaced with laptops & tablets. Should cursive be taught in classrooms? Absolutely if people want to learn it.

[Hawkes_Lady]

Yes, cursive should be taught in schools. Cursive is used as a form of identification acknowledging that you have read, understand, and agree to the terms of a contract. You have to be able to apply your signature to a lot of important r within your life span.

Also, it is an art form of sorts, that once you learn it... You don't lose it.

[Apple1996]

Yes I think so. At least for a good signature. I teach my kids cursive at home because of this reason

[msc545]

I have an almost illegible signature and not one person has ever cared.

[Apple1996]

It's never about other people caring tho. It's gotta look good for yourself. I basically only write in cursive. It's a beautiful art

[msc545]

I don't care either. I have other things to worry about.

[BoopBoopBeep]

I could see it having value to being able to read historical documents, but yeah, don't put a lot of time into it.

[slatyb]

Historical documents aren't written in modern cursive script.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@slatyb no but they are written in something closer than block print

[slatyb]

So? I don't have to know how to write a script in order to read it.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@slatyb Really? (Not being sarcastic). Every script I learned to read I can write. It was learned together. I was unaware that one can exist without the other. That is interesting for sure.

[RavVid]

Just as gov'ts will waste tax dollars, schools will waste the liberated time teaching 101 pronouns i. e. something even more useless than cursive script.

I do agree with you; I have deskilled myself back to printing.

[NathanDavis]

I make it a part of my tutoring sometimes...

even "regular" hand-writing is going away... and that's a bit sad

[AviatorTom]

The question that needs to be answered is this...

If people don't learn cursive, how do they legally sign a document? Block printing? That can easily be counterfeited?

[msc545]

They use DocuSign like the rest of the world

[AviatorTom]

That only works for electronic signatures. What do you do when someone sticks a piece of paper in front if you and requires your signature.

[slatyb]

Whatever you want. No reason to spend hundreds of hours learning some handwriting system.

[msc545]

If necessary you sign with an x. The need to sign documents is a terrible excuse for teaching cursive and spending hours on it, which is what it takes.

[WindAtMyBack]

Maybe this is an out-of-touch old person question, but how do you take notes in school if you don't know cursive?

[msc545]

You type them into your laptop which is sitting on your desk.

[lightbulb27]

most of school is useless. that would argue for stopping school around 8th grade and going to work... other than wasting many peoples time

I think as a side course like caligraphy or language.

but what I think doesn't matter does it...

[msc545]

The only people that think school is useless are the same people who think learning is useless because they already know everything according to them. This is where failure comes from.

[lightbulb27]

Nah. Depends. My kid doing great in school… but most of it is no use to her and the practical application she gets at home. She will never differentiate an equstion in lofe but she will have to figure out how to deal with an investment salesperson. Most important stuff not taught. And dont get me started on how the psychology class she takes. No wonder we put people on drugs to solve their problems. Separation kf church and state has bad consequences. Not once has she learned about love belief or how people. Its so sad to see the lack of emotional training. We could do much better.

[lightbulb27]

builds the brain, gives exposure to understanding, sure... that's good.

[slatyb]

She will never differentiate an equation in life? How do you know that? Differentiation is an extremely useful concept in economics and engineering.

[msc545]

@lightbulb27 Yes, I agree. We should teach religion in the schools so that people will be more conversant with ancient fairy tales because that is so useful.

[lightbulb27]

@slatyb she won't, trust me:) I was top of class and at most did basic algebra a few times as a programmer.

[lightbulb27]

I hope one day you awaken to see what your heart refuses.
But it's not easy to break through... often only achieved at the lowest of points. For people don't change until they have no other choice.
right?

[slatyb]

Oh, I'm also a programmer and I have definitely used calculus.

[slatyb]

Far more people deconvert than non-believers convert.

[lightbulb27]

@slatyb that's their choice and freedom to do so, fought for by people on a battlefields... where there were no athiests...

[slatyb]

There were plenty of atheists on battlefields then as there are now. There have been atheists since the Classical Greece philosophers, and no doubt before that.

[goaded]

It still teaches fine motor skills, but I see what you mean.

[slatyb]

About a hundred things more useful than cursive writing teach fine motor skills.

[goaded]

@slatyb Like what?

[slatyb]

Like drawing, or playing an instrument.

[MoonlightShadow1111]

Sure, why not. Even though due to all the technology we're constantly using these days, it's not like writing has gone extinct.

[exitseven]

Nah, kids already don;t read. They might as well not write too.

[msc545]

There is such a thing as printing and also such a thing as a computer. Keyboard. Cursive is a waste of time.

[exitseven]

yes, kids today just text each other. They done need to know how to write. You can get a computer to sign your name for you. With AI it will be even easier

[msc545]

Exactly. Knowing the meaning of words is a lot more important than knowing how to write them in a pretty fashion.

[exitseven]

Still, there is nothing like the handwritten letter from a lady friend.

[msc545]

Nobody writes letters anymore.

[exitseven]

Sad but true.

[exitseven]

I can still remember sitting in the collegeclibrary on Sunday taking a break and pouring my heart out with a Bic pen and a spiral notebook and sending it off to my girlfriend who lived halfway across the country

[FunkyMonkee]

As a class? I never had to take any classes to learn how to curse! From what I'm seeing, kids today need to be taught how to use English!!

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I think Cursive should just be reserve for a small amount of grade school and that's it.

[ChicoFromThe305]

I believe so, I think that's how I learned some cursive

[ProbablyClueless]

I think there's a certain artistry to it. Maybe cursive could be taught as an elective.

[TiaNour]

I had to learn cursive myself, they never taught it to us for sm reason

[slatyb]

No. It was never all that useful.

[ColHathi]

I agree. It shouldn't.

[litty736]

I don't have any pushbacks about it.

[FenixG45]

Yes, I think it should continue to be required!

[KrakenAttackin]

Absolutely!

[KrakenAttackin]

We are losing our language to texting and crap such as "i" vs 'I" and "wyd", etc. I hate seeing our language being destroyed.

[ThrillSeeker01]

Yes it's beautiful

[imfreeze95]

I would say yes