Who are the best English speakers (USA, UK, or Aussies)?

[foxsquirrell]

As a non native speaker of English I always marvel at how masterful native speakers of the English language are in using their language. They know how to express themselves accurately and in a few words. But who are the best at it you think?

Americans (USA)

Australians

English

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

“Best” in what sense? When you actually study language you see that grammar is basically meaningless, not to mention the intensely wide varieties of regional dialects contained in each of those english-speaking nations dictates how each person speaking that dialect is perceived. A person speaking cockney English versus a person speaking appalachian English are still UK vs US even though both are regarded as low-class dialects and therefore undesirable. You gotta specify what you mean by “best” here, man

[foxsquirrell]

Well a lot of what I mean by best can be found in the details to my question. Did you read it? Who is able to express themselves more accurately using few words as possible, the expressions that they use how good they are, and how creative they are with the language. The AI answered pretty well. Did you read that?

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I didn’t, and if your goal is efficiency, that HIGHLY depends on the region. Appalachians have multiple contractions such as I’didn’t’ve and couldn’t’ve, but that also applies to a lot of other dialects. There’s also the sound of the words to consider, like saying “Aaron earned an iron urn” in a boston dialect is basically “urn urn an urn urn” but it’s still able to be understood by those that speak that dialect, and that’s not even touching on cajun dialects. You can’t be as wide and vague as the nation if the nation has multiple regional dialects. Someone from New York doesn’t speak the same as someone from Texas

[foxsquirrell]

Don't make it that complicated. That's why I only mentioned 3 countries. To keep it simple. And they are the major ones. Who cares about the less prominent ones. Just take the average of each country I mentioned.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Yeah, and of those three countries you have, in total, a minimum of 57 different regions (that I’m aware of). Scotland is also part of the UK, you know how insanely different that sounds from English in London?

[foxsquirrell]

You can have as much as you want, there is always an average. I did not list Scotland because they are too small. I know that they are very particular as well, and they would have been in the list if the weren't so small in number compared to the others. So they are included just as an average.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

There is no “average” here, that’s incredibly ignorant

[foxsquirrell]

No, I think there is. And there you go as always, unable to have a conversation without attacking me personally. You are the ignorant buddy. Ask a professor of linguistics if you want and you'll see what he'll tell you. For sure a math professor would agree that the idea of average applies here as well. You might not like it, but I'm afraid that is your problem. Deal with it. No average! lol

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I did, in fact, study linguistics, I had to in order to get my writing degree. You’re just showing off the dunning-kruger effect by suggesting I don’t know what I’m talking about

[foxsquirrell]

Ahh so you have a writing degree! I have no degrees at all, and as you can see I can still keep up with you and give a run for your money. haha But who are you to say that I am showing the dunning-kruger effect? After all the concept of an average is mathematical not linguistic. So here you are out of your sphere of knowledge dude. And you are fighting me. I think it is you who is showing off the dunning-kruger effect, because you are talking about something which you don't clearly understand. You think that there isn't the average American speaker, the average English speaker, etc. I on the other hand think that there is. I tell you again, look at what the AI answered. That is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for. Think about what I am telling you before you answer me. Don't make a fool out of yourself.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I blocked all the AI, I’m not doing that. And honestly? A lot of this just seems like you soothing your ego every time my opinion is something you don’t personally like

[foxsquirrell]

Oh yeah? So I accept your criticism verging on insults as if they were true like gospel? That's what I should do to avoid having further criticism from you! Do you see how ridiculous you sound?
And you should not have blocked the AI's. Really. They write very good English, and case in point their answer often hit the nail on the head. The one here which you cannot see is a very good example. Advisor Smith nailed it.
Do you want me to send you a copy of the answer?

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

If I wanted answers from a computer, I could just use a search engine. A computer can’t have a complex opinion because they can’t think independently. I come here when I want actual opinions.

[foxsquirrell]

I tell you more often than not the AI response is better than most peoples' opinion. I don't understand why are you so against AI generated answers. He even answered in part like you did!!! He said that best is subjective! See? Now perhaps you'll change your mind.
P. S he answered immediately after a posted the pic. So don't think for a second that the AI plagiarized part of your answer. hehe

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

No, I didn’t see, because I prefer humans to computers pretending to be human lol

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

You also don’t need to tell me that opinions are subjective. That’s kind of the point of opinions, anyone who knows the definition of the word is aware of that fact.

And in my opinion, your opinion on the opinions you’ve collected for this opinionated question is a woefully simplistic understanding of the English language and its wide variety of dialects that exist within the massive borders of these three collected english-speaking nations that, as such, there is no one ultimately superior dialect of the language, in my opinion lol

[foxsquirrell]

My God! I am not saying that there is not the many different dialects that you mention in the English language. You just don't get it do you. I said average. You linguists have a poor grasp of even the most basic mathematical concepts it seems to me. lol
But anyways. I'm just going to let you be. hahaha

[AviatorTom]

Not sure what you mean by "best" but my experience is that Australians are the most honest and open in using language, which includes creating their own simplified words, ex: Macca for McDonalds, Barbie for barbecue, etc.

[OneViewpoint]

Well it is named the English language so... the people who created it get the nod here. The Defiled States Of America, Canuckistan, the Leprechaun Brigade, and the Shrimp on the Barbie crowd lose this contest.

[AI Opinion]

Determining the "best" English speakers among Americans, Brits, or Aussies is subjective and often depends on personal preferences. Each region has its own unique charm, expressions, and nuances. Americans are known for their dynamic and innovative use of English, Brits for their precision and wit, and Australians for their laid-back and colorful expressions. What really matters is clarity and the ability to express thoughts effectively, regardless of accent or dialect.

[DonaldDarko]

Americans speak old English. In the UK they speak with a finishing school accent from a hundred years ago or so. Australians speak a version of that. So if you want the king's English from long ago it's Americans if not then UK.

[Anonymous]

UK people are the best English speakers, but I prefer Australian accent ;)

[noohair]

What about the Kiwis?

[foxsquirrell]

Who are they?

[noohair]

Seriously?

[foxsquirrell]

Yeah, seriously. Are they people from New Zealand, or some tribe still roaming around in New Zealand. I've heard the name before, but don't know for sure who they are. Or maybe I am confusing the name with the name Kiwi. Which I think is a bird found in New Zealand.

[noohair]

You should get out more...

[foxsquirrell]

You think I'm going to meet a Kiwi by doing that, or you think someone is going to bring up the Kiwis in a conversation. Dude I just happen to not be sure who or what the hell the Kiwis are. I don't know everything. And I'm sure you don't know everything either.

[foxsquirrell]

* to be unsure