When did the 60s youth counterculture start?

[daejahdabree]

Now I know "60s counterculture" is a vague definition and the civil rights stuff and underground stuff was going on since ever since the decade started, but what I mean is the youth counterculture and the surging popularity among the youth and the rock stars Jimi Hendrix and John Lennon and Bob Marley.

1967

1966

1965

1964

1963, right after Kennedy died.

[abc3643]

This question is misleading.

Which is it?
The Counterculture or rock and roll?
The answer to both is in the 1950s.

But that said, it is simple that the Boomer kids were coming of age. Notice, a Boomer born in 1946 would be 18 in 1964. So, that's your answer... The Boomer kids were becoming adults. And, frankly, that is the right period. I am considered a Boomer because I am born n 1963. at the end of the Boomer Generation. That's a bit misleading to call me one. My mom, born in 1943 is more a Boomer than I was. But, I turned 18 in 1981 just before Reagan took office.

So, the period of the assassination of Kennedy through the inauguration of Reagan was the 1960s-70s Countercultural period.

Musically, it took off though with folk music in the early 1960s and then was jumpstarted when The Beatles appeared for 3 straight Sundays on The Ed Sullivan Show starting on Sunday 09 FEB 1964. That's the touchstone moment. The Beatles and what they did musically along with some others (mostly British Invasion groups) were pivotal. But The Beatles led the way because they were so initially successful that they were free to be whoever and do whatever they wanted. John Lennon said it best in 1966 that The Beatles were "more popular than Jesus". That was controversial in the US. Anyway, the freedom of The Beatles inspired many people toward freedom just like the contemporaneous Civil Rights Era was doing. The Beatles ran with that freedom and altered rock music much further in 1966 and beyond.

So, if your question is about a transformative moment in music, it was The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show in February 1964.

It is arguably the most important moment in 20th Century Western Culture.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=552683958891071

[WilliamPamer446]

Every decade has its own "counterculture" or "subculture" of sorts. For your generation it was the hippies, for mine it was Hip Hop

The 1950s had Evlis rock and roll but the hippie counter culture rock and roll didn't take off until 1964-1967

[abc3643]

@WilliamPamer446 Actually, the hippies aren't "my generation". The false demographic cohorts created by whoever are just bullshit. Demographic cohorts by age should be much narrower in age and are often associated with a milestone cultural event.

For instance, I'm not really a Boomer. Why? I was 10 when the Vietnam War ended for the US and 12 when the Vietnam War ended. I never had to worry about being drafted. To me, the war was something that was on the news. To most Boomer males, the Vietnam War was a big issue because they worried about being drafted or were probably protesting the war in high school or college.

My cohorts are really the kids my age +/- about 3 or 4 years. Basically, any kid who could have attended high school with me for at least 1 year.

As for rock and roll, rock and roll did take off in the 1950s. It changed in the 1960s... as music is constantly changing. The Beatles led the way in expanding what could be done in rock and roll and what could still be considered rock and roll.

@WilliamPamer446 you are 21. As you get older, you will understand these things better because you will have lived through and been cognizant of significant cultural change. At your age of 21, in your lifetime, there only significant cultural change has been the increased dominance of social media and smartphones. But these have always been so during your cognizant years (about 9 and later). When you start seeing new cultural phenomena arise and old ones die off, you will have a better understanding of the connectedness of it all.

[WilliamPamer446]

My bad man I didn't mean that all boomers were hippies what I meant was the hippie phenemoneon lasted in your generation mostly the younger people but some older people partake in it as well

[WilliamPamer446]

And thats not true, Gay Marriage was legalized when I was 15 and Black men and women have gained a lot more respect and t Autistic human rights and socialfreedom and acceptance he fight for legal weed continues

[WilliamPamer446]

I do see how the 60s connects to the 70s connects to the 80s connects to the 90s connects to the 2000s connects to the 2010s connects to the 2020s

[abc3643]

@WilliamPamer446 That's true about same sex marriage, yes. And #MeToo / Woke. I guess I was too focused on the tech changes to have an impact. Oh, and the pandemic. THAT'S the big one that you will remember years later that those born after it will not have a good understanding of life before it.

[WilliamPamer446]

I dont think were heading to a good place man i dont wanna have kids in the crazy world

[WilliamPamer446]

What I fear is the Government taking over I have no problem with the black community stuff but i do criticize lgbt marriage but we should respect the lgbt community

[abc3643]

@WilliamPamer446
1. "What I fear is the Government taking over"
Every generation has conservatives who think that.
2. It has taken over parts of our lives for over 200 years... and it should. For example, defense and regulation of money (Defense is in the preamble of the Constitution; regulation of money is in Article I). As society and technology changes, we will need more of that actually.

Anyway, don't worry about it. The US government won't become totalitarian as long as we can keep demagogues out of power. As long as functional adults can vote, they correct or prevent situations like that.

[WilliamPamer446]

Yah I know but im actually not a conservative my label is far to complex to give one word but id say its more like a Traditional Liberal Distributist Independant Libertarian along those lines

Im traditioanl to a point I believ in the bible but im also liberal and modernist in many ways

[abc3643]

@WilliamPamer446 Good for you! (No sarcasm here.)

[WilliamPamer446]

Can you talk to me in private. I think your a cool older guy.

[abc3643]

@WilliamPamer446 You can reach out to me; you have a following block on.

[WilliamPamer446]

I'd say 1967 is when it really took off, but the underground ideas were already being set up, and when Kennedy died the youth really started forming a new youth culture. There hopes and dreams were killed when Kennedy died. And Lyndon B Johnson was a mean old man, and Nixon was also a mean old man, so they both kinda made the opposition stronger.

[exitseven]

It happened after JFK was assassinated. Civil rights and the emerging Vietnam War were the galvanizing topics. People called it an empty rebellion but it really was a counter culture.

[slatyb]

It was partially a reaction to drafting young men to fight in Vietnam. It turned out the draft dodgers were right. It was a stupid and hopeless war.

[WilliamPamer446]

So wasn't that 1967 like I predicted?

[emperor90]

Aftee kenedy die cause there were a lot of riots