Is Dionne Warwick wrong in her guess that Beyoncé Knowles won't reach icon status?

[Oliverlogan263]

You can watch this video about Dionne saying Beyoncé reaching icon status is a long way to go, let me know your comments on what she said herself if you like:

She said that if artists like Beyoncé or usher reach the 50 or 60 year mark, that’s when you can say they’re iconic.

(along the lines of Gladys Knight, Patti LaBelle, Johnny Mathis, Frank Sinatra, or Sammy Davis, Jr.)?

I feel like the people Dionne refers to are actually not only "icons" but LEGENDS, PIONEERS and ARCHITECTS of the genres of today! I'd add that Mariah, Janet and Whitney were definitely in their own league and have classics that can stand the test of time years from now.

I think what Dionne Warwick means is that, Yes Beyonce is talented, no doubt, but is her music sustainable? That is yet to be seen. Will people 60 years from now still be singing "Crazy in Love", "naughty girl", "Run the world", "single ladies", etc... are those classics? Will they still be relevant songs in 60 years that a new generation can relate to? She emphasized "classics". That's what she means. Will her music stand the test of time? We will see cause she has a long way to go... thats what she's saying.

What are y’all opinions?

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[WindAtMyBack]

I know almost nothing about Beyonce other than her name. I'm pretty sure I've heard her before, but I remember nothing about her music.

Dionne has her own definition of icon. It's a vague term, and she can define it any way she wants. She places a lot of weight on longevity, which I think is important for an icon, but not the only criteria. I would call Beyonce an icon just because she is so big.

Dionne meets the longevity criteria because she's been in the industry a very long time. But I would call Beyonce more of an icon than Dionne.

I don't think Dionne is trying to diss anybody. She's just saying that you need to pass the test of time to be called an icon. I don't agree. Someone can be an icon in their time, and be completely forgotten 50-75 years from now.

My opinion on modern musicians is that even though I don't listen to them, and know very little about them, there is no reason to think musicians are any less talented today than any other time in history. There will always be talented and creative people. Music has certainly changed, and the industry has changed a lot, but there WILL be talented people out there.

[nolabels]

I remember a couple of highly talented, well respected female country singers throwing a little bit of shade at Carrie Underwood when Carrie first hit it big, with these other women saying that Carrie didn't "earn" her stardom in the old-fashioned way of gigging small joints until a break came along.
Those same women later apologized to Carrie after realizing what a great singer she truly is.
I didn't and don't hold anything against those two women, who I will not name.
They are both magnificent singers in their own right, and I can imagine that they could have momentarily felt threatened by Carrie's meteoric rise to fame.
As far as I'm concerned, there's no shortage of love for any great singers.

Beyonce?
Yeah, I think that she's already an icon of music.

Cheers.

[Gwendoline]

She already an icon but she can't go on as is or she will end up like maddonna

[AI Opinion]

Dionne Warwick has a point when she suggests that true icon status is achieved over decades and through timeless, classic contributions to music. While Beyoncé is undeniably a powerhouse and a significant cultural figure today, it’s true that the legends Warwick mentions – like Frank Sinatra and Gladys Knight – have a longevity that spans generations. Their music remains influential and beloved long past their peak years.

However, it’s also essential to recognize that Beyoncé has already made a massive impact on the music industry and popular culture. She has an extensive body of work, a massive fan base, and countless hits that have defined moments for many people. Songs like "Single Ladies" and "Crazy in Love" have already proven to be cultural touchstones.

As time passes, the sustainability of Beyoncé’s music will become evident. While we can't predict the future, her significant influence and pioneering contributions to music, performance, and visual art hint at a legacy that could certainly stand the test of time. 🎶💫 But for now, we can enjoy and appreciate the incredible artistry she brings to our lives.

[DrPepper12]

She doesn't understand the music business today. Markets are fractured where is hers were unified. Record labels and radio controlled the content and that's no longer the case. Beyonce IS AN ICON!!

And Blue Ivy, if you're reading this I'd like you to adopt me PLEASE!!

[LiamJHayden]

Probably. I know Beyonce is famous but I cannot think of a single song by her. Warwick was famous long before I was born and I can think of several of hers.

[Staximus]

Beyonce will never even be in the same building as a singer like Aretha Franklin or Gladys Knight

[Anonymous]

Newer acts especially on the majority market are just the right look and auto tune

The old artists had genuine talent as do more niche artists today

[AviatorTom]

No, she is not wrong. It's rare to reach icon status, and there are few singers in the past 20 or 30 years, including Beyoncé, who even come close to that.

[Anonymous]

Dinner Warwick, isn't that that lady that was related to Whitney Houston. And now does like palm readings or something?

[paledreams]

Didn't Beyonce already reach?

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Yes.

[DtMe89]

Sounds like someones jealous

[RedInnocent69]

Probably. She might even be already there.

[Anonymous]

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