Why does every girl I meet "friend zone" me?

[Skidmark69]

Ever since my only serious relationship that ended 2 years ago, every single girl that I've met and grow to have feelings for always seems to sooner or later reject me by saying something like "oh you're such a sweet guy and I don't want to ruin our friendship". I just don't understand what it is that I do wrong because they always end up dating some guy who either treats them like crap or is just an all around dick. I think I treat girls better than most guys do. I really do have a lot more on my mind than just getting laid. To be totally honest, all I want is to take a nice girl on a nice date. As cheesy as it sounds I want to park the truck up at the lake and just cuddle up and talk about what we'd do when we could finally make it out on our own or something and watch the sunset and then go home and watch the breakfast club. Or maybe something funny like going out to bath and body woks and smelling every candle there and then go midnight bowling. It jut seems that when a girl meets me all they see and think is I'm just another one of those dumb redneck kids so I must be like all the rest but I'm not! I may be rough around the edges, I may hunt and drive a truck but that's not all I'm about One day it's Chris ledoux and the next it's all time low or the story so far. I love 80's movies and musicals. I love the corny romantic things like candle dinners, holding hands and maybe after a date kiss her at the last second when I walk with her to her door at the end of the night. Is it too much to ask to meet a girl who will let me try and make her happy?

[archer86]

You are probably a No-type. Something about you fails to meet one of the exhaustive lists of qualifications that women have in obtaining a man. The usual list is something like this:

Tall

Handsome

Healthy

Wealthy

Age-specific

White (or non-black)

Athletic

Rich

Cool

There's more but the intangibles vary.

Because you are a nice-guy-not-my-type, you get friendzoned. Get used to it because this is going to happen often. Even ugly chicks have expectations, go figure. That ex you had, better find someone like her or get used to a life of using prostitution.

Personality and confidence? HA! Those things never have a chance, only after you meet the minimum listed requirements does the aforementioned come into play.

Don't expect much sympathy. Women are just going to tell you to frag off. Men are going to tell you to quit being a whiny punk loser and get some confidence to get a woman anytime YOU want.

Ladies, can a man get you anytime he wants? Thought so.

The hell with them, you don't have to play their immature game. Keep looking but save up some money for those intolerable nights just in case

[Anonymous]

Girls do not friend zone you - you friend zone yourself, by becoming their friend. That is something you give away for free, and they don't want to trade in a known value (your friendship) for the unknown (a relationship with you)

You have to stop becoming their friend.

"every single girl that I've met and grow to have feelings for"

That's your problem. You wait until you grow to have feelings for a girl before asking her out. By then, you're already friends.

Stop doing that.

When you meet a girl, ask her out. If there's nothing there after one date and you still want to be her friend, knock yourself out.

But stop trying to fall in love with someone before asking her out. That's ass-backwards

[krenee]

Well said

[Agrojag]

I've been making the same mistakes as you. I've been too nice, too thoughtful, too dependable, etc. Women, as sad as it is, don't want or respect those things until much later in life... when men aren't so interested in them anyway. The only success I've had with girls is when I ignore them, treat them like they're nothing to me, and generally just act like a prick. When I've gone out of my way to do the right thing for girls and to show them I care, they just take advantage. You have to either adapt your tactics or adjust to being single or waiting for that one special person who will appreciate any of the things you have to offer. I'm sad to say it, but it's the truth. Trust me, I've made the same mistake you have and not just once.

[CellLuddite]

It's because you're beta.

[Anonymous]

Maybe you're just too nice