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Chokers are a sign that a woman wants to be sunmissive. Before Fifty Shades, feminist “discourse” has avoided uncomfortable truths for decades. Female use of the word “slut,” which either rivals or equals its usage by men, is desperately ignored by feminists, lest it destroy their only-men-are-that-sexist argument. A litany of studies showing gender symmetry in domestic violence, the role of life-balance free choice in women working part-time (and therefore explaining why they earn less) and anti-male bias in the family court system are all thrown on the proverbial scrapheap so that they don’t need to be addressed.
Consequently, feminists are in a damaging spiral on this issue. There is no gender equivalence here; women are the ones thronging to see what SJWs call serious sexual abuse and rape culture on screen. If men were doing it en masse, they could call it misogyny. But the delicate leftist creatures dare not label their less uptight cinema-going sisters with the badge of misogyny. It would destroy the whole glass house that these intellectual lightweights inhabit.
Fifty Shades of Grey is the newest example of this hyper-tunnel vision. But unlike dry yet perfectly accurate scientific studies, E. L. James’ flawed pseudo-classic is demanding that women pay attention with its visceral appeal. Despite its literary bankruptcy, including sentences that would make a horny fifteen-year-old boy cringe, the book cuts to the heart of the female sexual identity.
Rape culture and male oppression of women are highly effective fictions used in the western world to vilify men. But in Fifty Shades, Anastasia voluntarily thrusts herself into Christian Grey’s palm. She even tries to pry it open herself, figuratively, just so she can be under his thumb.
There’s no story reminiscent of feminist fear-mongering here. Anastasia doesn’t start an initially placid relationship which becomes twisted with the stereotypical growth of “male abuse” and the exercise of roid rage-like violence against her. Instead, Anastasia signs a “contract” for the BDSM activities. It’s Anastasia who wants this.

The plot devices James uses to superficially tone down the raw sexuality of the book series (yes, there are three of them!), such as the injection of Grey’s “vulnerabilities” and Anastasia’s signing of the contract, are merely mechanisms to maintain a woman’s plausible deniability and that of the female audience.
The author herself, given her poor writing abilities, was probably unaware of the purpose of these devices. When reading the book or watching the film, which I saw today, women can live this plausible deniability vicariously through Anastasia.
If you were going to see the film before reading this, still go see it. And if you did not plan to go see it, change your fucking mind and go. Some of the scenes will be unbearably corny and the teeth-grinding dialogue will repel you, but you will witness a perfect encapsulation of the female sexual drive. Even in the dark, pay heed to any noises from the mostly female crowd.
Perhaps in the corner of your eye you’ll catch the illuminated faces of some women. Soak in the rapt attention they give to the spectacle before them. Before and after the screening, notice the excitement of groups of women, the emotions they express and the completely different vibe they give off. For them, this is no regular film and they’ll be treating it, irrespective of whether they’re not dressed up, as a festive occasion. This is their psychology and fantasies they are paying to see.
Most potently, when you pay to watch this film, as the women are, you are paying to watch patriarchy in action. The film may be set in “our time” but the world that Anastasia must make herself enter represents her deep-seated patriarchal dreams and cravings. And that forms a mirror reflecting the primal desires of all normal women.
Fifty Shades of Grey doesn’t just incapacitate feminism. It ties it up, flogs it, and chokes it unconscious.
my last girlfriend actually wore them a lot, she was kinda into the whole punk/alternative rock scene, and got me into it too... at first I kinda hated it, but after a little bit I learned to love it, now I think chokers are hot. honestly everyone has different tastes, and if someone's into you, like properly, they'll learn to look past the physical quickly, and learn to love every piece of you, including your fashion choices, no matter how bizzare. they may be.
True :) If you love someone you learn to love everything about them
i like how other girls wear them but i dont like those they just remind me of patrick.. i have weird ones... i get them in mexico and everyone asks me where i get them lol... like theyre silver not plastic lol.. when you close the weird one you have to put the line metal part in the hole.. O / so it looks like the line is inside the circle its so cool
It's weird, but I can't think of any girl I know who wears a choker. Necklaces, yes, lots of them... one of my best friends always wears a necklace no matter what, it's like her trademark (she claims she even showers with it), but no chokers.
Maybe it's a cultural thing.
i will wear them with the rigt outfit but i like the tattoo chokers more, never worn the kind you listed above. My friend once wore a shoelace to an event and got lots of compliments about it
Tattoo chokers are nice too :) Everything depends on an outfit
I only own one. But i hardly wear it now because my friends warned me that around here its known as the dick suckers jewelry 😂🙈 👀 Lmao wtf
Yeah I've heard that too :) I read it's beacuse prostitutes used to wear them some time ago but I wear them anyway cuz I think they look cute
Oh heck no now im def debating if i'll wear it lmao. And most guys here said it looks like a dog collar so they hate it 😂
It's different here cuz almost every guy I know likes them but some of them still make jokes about it being a black belt in blowjobs :D
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Its a very seductive piece of a woman's attire and for being such a small piece but, on a sensual part of the woman's body, I think they should be required on certain dresses, blouses and such.
I agree 100%
No haha :)
You mean HOEkers? Lol, jk, I wear them sometimes.
But for real, chokers were supposedly only worn by prostitutes and lesbians back in the day. This won't stop me from wearing them occasionally.
I read about it and I still wear them even thought I'm neither a hooker nor lesbian :)
Its goes further back to slaves. AND then further still to tribal status of neck rings for matriarch roles.
@JadeTrintyIII I know but I don't think many people know about it so they don't look at it that way nowadays
It really doesn't go further back to slaves, and I'm not surprised you brought that up.
why? because I'm white? Guess what Jews were slaves centuries before Africans. And they had slave bracelets, you know those pretty little anklets & bracelets everyone likes with the chain to the finger or toe, also chokers. Also because I'm a nerd Princess Leia wore one... boom Mic drop! lol
Did you just assume that I only think Africans were enslaved because you made the assumption that I'm black over a picture of a doll?
I didn't even look at your picture to be honest. In America where all that is in the news is either Black lives matter or white people are all racist. So I merely spoke what came to mind when someone decides to complain about the mention of slavery. I'm Cherokee so I know a thing or two about losing life, liberty, and land. But I know almost every color of the rainbow has been enslaved at some point. I was merely counter your statement of "they don't go further back" when clearly they do. And the statement that because I'm white I must be racist fur bringing up slavery. I'm not. My two best friends are black NOT African American, they make that quite clear. One is American and the other Jamaican.
1. Are you white or are you Cherokee? 2. Did I say you're racist? 3. Do I care that you have two black friends?
Cherokee are white, this stereo type "Indian r red, how white man" is stupid. You attacked my comment as if to imply I was racist, if I misunderstood 1. My apologies 2. Learn to better compose a retort so it can't be misconstrued that way 3. My apologies. Lastly, when people start arguing with me over race, color, and bs they usually end by accusing me of not knowing any black people, so again my apologies for putting that out there before you could attack that aspect or for even putting it out there.
Now down to the actual premise of this site, OPINIONS! We are all entitled to our opinions but getting butt hurt because someone thinks differently than you is stupid. We are all adults, or should be, and as such we should be having a rational discussion or debate and not attacking PERSONAL beliefs or ideals. That is why I put the mic drop joke, to liven the hostility. Good day to you Ma'am.
Cherokees are not white. Bye. Don't try to be a know-it-all and then bitch about hostility next time.
F U? Is that what you are seeking out of this? Furries Unlimited... Lol you are so wound up and in a bunch. Learnhow to be a human being and Cherokee are White.
Native Americans aren't white.
You sir are an imbecile. Asians aren't yellow Indians aren't red and Europeans aren't Caucasian (Spanish are quite dark). Native Americans are white maybe not Caucasian but white.
I think it is VERY alluring, especially a black ribbon choker with cameo:
This one should be worn on special occasions :)
Oh, yes, it is a dressy item, great for creating that Marie Antoinette aura!
Yeah exactly :)
Sometimes. But not the style in the picture. I like this style s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/.../...-necklaces.jpg
I think if a girl is wearing one something like this, it's more related with the Rocker type alternative style scene. Which is really cute on a girl, or like the second pic (The one with the heart I don't know how the photos are goin to go in order after posting lol) also. Used to not think much about them, but after the last girl I dated, they just kind of drive me crazy lol. Follow Me?

I find them pretty attractive, though I prefer the thicker bands. the chokers definitely draws my attention.
Glad you like them :)
I'm glad girls like wearing them 😉 haha
See? Everyone's happy haha :)
haha exactly. what kind of chokers do you like to wear?
The ones above, the satin ones, the classic black ones :)
Nice :) I'd have to say that the Satin ones are my favorite to see on a girl.
I find them pretty hot. I tend to notice girls wearing them.
Great :)
Depends on the girl and the choker. Not all of them can pull it off.
You're right :)
I personally think they're hot (usually), wish girls wore them more.
Nice :) me and my sister wear them a lot
i like them, but i can't stand the feeling of anything on my neck for too long.
I used to be the same but some of them are so comfy that you don't feel like wearing anything :)
I think it's beautiful if you have the neck for that. Not everyone can pull off a choker. Me. :(
Oh I'm sorry :(
I think chokers look rlly hot on the right girl haha
Everything looks great on the right person :)
I do :)
Personally, I cannot stand anything right against my throat, it really super irritates me.
So when someone else wears things there, it sometimes gives me the sympathy willies so to speak.
That said, I am well aware that is my issue not hers, so whatever she wants to wear.
those chokers drive me crazy. keeps inviting me to play over it with my lips. 😉
Wow cool :)
Yes but this type
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These are also nice :)
I like them. I think they look kind of sexy actually. Those ones look cute too. I have one exactly like the first and last one, but I always struggle to make a pretty knot like that 😂
I have this choker too but in color white and I love it :) But mine has a buckle at the back so i don't have to make a knot
ohh, that's much easier then :p
Sometimes I just spare myself the trouble and use it like this: silvona.pl/.../...0ba345df037d9bf650124d16d4fd.jpg
which looks very nice too in my opinion :)
True :) I like it
yes, absolutely. I think they are the perfect accessory for women.
Great :) I love adding them to my outfits
awesome, I say wear them all the time.
I do wear them almost all the time :)
😂These were a thing in the late 90's especially in the form of a tattoo necklace. I've been noticing them lately and they make me smile, becauseI can't believe the stupid things have made it back to being a popular fad.
yes and no because any can choke u with it and yes because it looks good on most girls
True :)
They can be sexy or trashy/cheap. Proceed with caution.
Those pictures to me seem okay, but a little on the cheap side unless you are in a country environment.
I don't really like it, it makes them look like the perfectly annoying mix of instagram addict and bdsm sub which are both annoying personality types.
Some people are reading too much into it. It's just a cute accessory :)
Haha, alright, then it's fine.
I love chokers
*heart eyes* *heart eyes*
http://i.imgur.com/UgL5cmx.png
Lol :) I think chokers are super cute and I personally love wearing them
It's just a blackbelt in blowjobs around your neck
I don't think so :) It's just a stupid myth people made up
@Kitten967 I didn't actually know that
Me neither. Thanks for telling :)
it's like a hair style. some can pull it off better than others
True that :)
i have old posters and stuff from an uncle, of first woodstock festival and fine leather neck and wrist bands like native American were popular/flower power c1970_viet protests
Yes, some women suits them, but not everybody does. I sees them as an accessories like sunglasses, hats, jewelry etc. It's a nice thing to the right outfit and can compliments it.
They suit some women but not others. I have no preference either way though. If she is comfortable wearing one then she could probably make it look good
If she a straight 10, then she can wear whatever she wants sunshine!
But on a serious note, some guys associate chokers with slurry girls and some guys love them. Personally I like them.
sure do. in some circles though it called collaring and the master gives it to the sub or pet as a sign of ownership and the sub or pet wears it with pride that he/she was chosen. it's part of the BDSM lifestyle
That's something that should have stayed in the 90s. Yowza. Awful looking. Makes everyone's neck look fat.
I've never seen it make it anyone's neck fat tbh
Only time I've seen it make a neck look fat was when it already was fat. Double chins can't handle a choker.
these weren't a trend when I was dating, but I think they're cute as fuck now. pretty much any of them are good *shrug*
Glad you like them :) It's a small detail but it adds a lot to the outfit in my opinion
I don't really like chockers there are a few I have thought were a nice ornament but generally I don't like them
Yeah I agree it depends on a certain choker, I don't like all of them as well
Not this type of choker it looks like shoe laces for her neck. I don't mind a choker though. Certain girls can pull it off.
i don't like the way it looks. it looks like cheap shoelaces.
I think chokers can look quite nice and sexy but on very few girls only. I personally couldn't wear them because I love my silver necklace too much. :D
Sure they look good, if they are comfortable with them on. But to hang it up would be he best thing. And you don't always have to wear something because it's available
I don't like it , it looks too sexual and I tend to go for a classier look in fashion. It's more of a social trend rather than what I would call timeless in a fashion sense
That's not a choker that's a lace tied around the neck
It's not
Yes! You may be able to tell by my pic😉
I've for tons of them!
I'm gonna be real that looks like a freaking shoelace.
But a cute shoelace :)
heck yeah, fancy and kinky at the same time😁... am i the only onde that thinks like that?
I think the same :)
haha yeayyy😁😁😊
It's cute and can say a lot about the girls personality.
Like what for example? :)
in my eyes. A girl who can wear with something tight around her neck wants more of a deep connection to someone. beside that the girls I dated who did like wearing chokers were the biggest sweethearts and best in bed from all. seeing a choker on a girl imediately gets me more interested because of the recurring pattern I'm seeing.
I dislike the trend, because of what's associated with it. I feel like girls would get less respected once they wear a choker.
I just call them small necklaces or neckbands. Otherwise I don't really notice/care for them.
The ones in the picture look like shoelaces haha
No, not really. I think chokers look a lttle dumb, I'd just prefer she wears necklaces if she wants something like that.
I don't personally wear them, but they can look great on others lol
I get it :)
Not particularly. I know it's trendy and whatever, but I think it's sort of stupid
I love it and I also love wearing them myself.
Same as me :)
The right type can be really cute, even sexy.
The wrong type can come across as tacky and trashy.
The one in the photo looks really cute, but I would be interested to see the model herself overall.
All women want to be choked and submissive but they only let the right guy do it. I see it as a sign she's a freak and I get excited
I actually really like it a lot not the string ones like the pictures but like a real one
I like the small minimalistic chockers.
I'm not a fan of this one, but on some girls it looks good.
www.etsy.com/.../sierlijke-diamonds-door-de-yard-choker
I really like this sort of chockers
True, it depends on a person :)
I'm bi, and I find it hot when another girl wears a choker. I wear chokers sometimes.
It's really dependant on the girl. Some girls where it well, some don't
I dunno bout them but I don't mind if a guy did xD I like wearing them too
Absolutely. I'm glad they're coming back into style
Chokers, collars, and ribbons tied around a women's neck... ah, I love them all! They are very sexy. 😊😏👍
I quite like them. But not that style you have shown above
depends on who's wearing it! Haha but generally, I think it's pretty sexy
No. Impractical if they were to get into a fight. They're called "chokers" for a reason.
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