Umm, that’s the beauty ideal of a select group of people. Honestly my preference is 5,4ish darker skinned and noticeably muscled. Never been into the whole skinny girl thing, I always feel like they’re starving themselves. Blondes are ok, but hair color doesn’t really matter to me. As for beauty ideals being racist, I’d say that’s an exaggeration at least when it comes to a personal level. For the most part it’s a statement of preference, attraction is subjective. And people can’t really help what they’re attracted too. In the case of what’s perpetuated by the fashion industry, your statement might have some merit, but Id say It’s closer to stereotyping than racism.
Yes, by they are racist by their very nature. My girlfriend is South Asian and even though she is the sexiest woman i've ever laid eyes on; she has all these insecurities over things that just don't matter. She was practically in tears one day because she was worried I was settling for her because she's not very tall, and doesn't have some high-roller career.
Are tall women desired in US too? I thought only scandinavians have this obsession
Literally no guys have that obsession. Guys gravitate towards smaller women because they are more fun to snuggle.
Scandinavian men prefer taller women (taller than themselves)
Hmm, well I guess I just haven't seen that in my own life. I will take your word for it though.
Woman of all heights, 4'11-6'1 are considered attractive in the media and real life
Yes the combination of blue eyes and blonde hair is a thing in some beauty standards, but tons of non blonde non blue eyed women are considered very attractive.
Adriana Lima has brown hair and I don't know about her eyes blue or green. Beyonce I don't know she isn't a blond now is she 🙄 . Miranda Kerr I don't know I dont think she is blonde. Most black celebrities aren't and lots of them are super pretty.
Maybe this is just a thing where you live?
Not just racist, but shallow and mentally abusive. We should all except our own Beauty and not trying to be like other people just to please others. That's why so many people are committing suicide and is mentally ill besides depressed today. They need to classify that as abuse and actually get rid of it. Nobody should have to be bullied or ignored because one does not want to meet the standards of others.
@SongBird3 But if somebody is handsome but treat you like s***, you'd wish you had that person. As many times my father was rejected because the girls weren't attracted to him, are the same girls who now want him because he had a six-figure income, two daughters, married for 23 years and a mini-mansion, while many of them are single mothers, and hopping from one baby daddy to another. All of a sudden he's now cute. Especially since he's confident enough to reject such girls too. It CAN be a form of bullying. Because it tells others that person isn't worth dating. Which can leave them involuntarily single. Nobody is saying you are obligated to date them. But don't be a jerk. You'll be rejected and treated the same way you treated them. Remember Karma?
A person who doesn't want me because I'm not attractive physical can go screw it. Because there will always be somebody who would love me for ME, and those same people can beg me all they want. I wouldn't want them after that. I had to learn to stop worrying about what other men think of me. I deserve better. Looks fade, but your heart will always stay. And if your heart is ugly, nobody would want you except for sex. That's all you'll be good for.
Im not saying you have to be a god. But I HAVE to be somewhat physically attracted to you. If you have no physical connection with someone than the relationship won't work. I've dated some pretty ugly ass guy because I was nice and tried to look beyond that (they were assholes)
You need the best of both world
@SongBird3 Relationships are about how YOU decide to make it. Attraction is a choice and it has been scientifically proven. If you had no desire to be attracted to them, then you won't be attracted to them. You have to have discernment. And you don't have it. You were too busy being nice instead of being kind. You got involved with wrong guys. It's not about having the best of both worlds but who YOU ARE as a person. You are who you attract most of the time. So if you attracted such guys, it was a reflection of what's hidden in your heart. Relationships are self-sacrificing. If you can't sacrifice, you won't have good relationships. Nobody is perfect. Attraction physically should come last on your list.
That says your not stable inside your heart and mind, and don't know what type of guy is right for you. You had the same issue my close friend had, and she realized she ended up with the same type of guys because of her mother's influence and it was unhealthy. Soul to soul attraction is what make better relationships. Relationships based on worldly matters and standards will always lead to misery. I have seen people who had grown in beauty with age, and others who's character made them ugly genetically. The more negatively I thought about my appearance the more physically unattractive I began to look. The more I began thinking positive about me, the more attractive and appealing I looked to others and myself. You have no idea what that person may be struggling unless you get to know them for them. Not their appearance.
R u high?
I can't CHOOSE who im attracted to. Its innate! Thats like saying I can choose to be gay. Its not a choice! You like what you like. Its that simple. Looks matter sweetheart, your on your pedestal now but when an ugly (or whatever ur not attracted to) approches u and you have to say no, your gonna look dumb Because you went against ur own morals.
@SongBird3
"I can't CHOOSE who im attracted to. Its innate! " Because you don't want to feel accountable and responsible. You can do whatever you please, but nobody with common sense and a brain is going to want to deal with you seriously. " Thats like saying I can choose to be gay. Its not a choice! " That is also a choice. Nobody can tell another person is or isn't if nobody influenced them. Children are not stupid. They were brainwashed to be stupid like many of us are. Everything in life is CHOICES. It's harder if you are genetically influenced more than others, but it doesn't control you. You have to control your body, does your body control you? It doesn't control me no matter how tempted I am.
"You like what you like. Its that simple." Looks don't matter to me. As long as they are groomed, take care of themselves, everybody is unique in their own attractiveness. " Looks matter sweetheart, your on your pedestal now but when an ugly (or whatever ur not attracted to) approches u and you have to say no, your gonna look dumb Because you went against ur own morals." I had guys that were so-called unattractive to me, but I never rejected them because they were ugly. I wasn't attracted to them because of their heart, and their values and morals didn't align with mine. End of story. I have rejected attractively handsome men too. I know what I NEED. Not by what I want. All I ask is for somebody to respect and honor me. I am not shallow like you people.
Only thing we have in common is that I only date guys IK, i never date strangers. Everything else your is completely retarded.
And trust me sweetheart, im nothing like you. Im a very attractive women, and im very confident in myself. I have no problem finding a man. Im in a long term relationship with someone who loves me body, mind, and soul. Im sorry that you dont like yourself and that you wanna project your insecurity on to everyone else. No normal person is gonna share your ideology. Good day to you sir
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Who said that is a beauty ideal?
There is more than one ideal. Some ideals are just held up more, which is the white ideal, it doesn't mean the other ideal doesn't exist or that you cannot choose to pursue them, as many people do. But one of them is going to be at the top.
The idea that it is wrong that the white ideal is at the top, as opposed to any other ideal, IS racist. You are outlying a special case where only white standards cannot be approved, so it's a racism against whites.
You are a racist. An ignorant, bitter one at that.
The fact that only one race is consistently being represented in the media, in magazines and as models to a disproportionate degree and people of colour are being underrepresented IS racist. I don’t care what your individual “preference” is that has nothing to do with anything. It is the fact that when you walk into a store and the vast majority of dolls you are are white with blonde hair and blue eyes, the vast majority of models are white, the vast majority of people being represented when you turn on your TV are white. Think about it, the fact that Lily Singh has her own talk show as a brown woman is so shocking because that’s literally one of the first times a brown women has ever had her own talk show. Systemic racism exists and if you choose to ignore the fact that white privilege is very much a part of or society today you are being ignorant. Period.
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A girl get Photoshopped to different countrys. Spoiler Alert No she is not blond and blue eyed
Well Asians tend to like white looks more than whites themselves but can you blame them? white people really tend to have the best looks in the world.
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There is "media" in every nation, designed for every culture. They all present "beauty ideals" based on the culture they represent. If you live in a white country they will have white beauty ideals, in an Asian country Asian ideals, in Spanish country Spanish ideals, etc.
That matters how? It's still a different standard in a different culture which was my whole statement.
And that just has to be racism right? It couldn't be a naturally evolved part of their cultural standards to prefer lighter skin?
Like how it's been a part of certain Asian cultures for a couple thousand years, but yeah no, it was just racist white people forcing their beauty standards on people they haven't even come into contact with yet using that ancient pale skin magic
Heightism do not exist for women except Nordic countries. Blonde? We dont live in 60's anymore. Slim? Every race can be slim/fit.
No beauty ideals are not racist in general. In Nordics maybe since they except women to be tall.
I think it's not racist because it depends of the place you live... The beauty ideals aren't the same in two different country... And it's the average, but for my part I like the beauty ideals of Belgium, but doesn't mean that I can find a girl completely out of these beauty ideal completely magnificent
These ideals will be the norm when ever races are mixed together and one is the majority or more popular than the others. It isn't necessarily racist as racism is a consciously formed opinion about the superiority of one race over another. These standards just happen because one race was a little more trendy than the others. This can be eliminated by an ethnic home for every race. The sooner races of man can collaborate on this the better it will be. Race is nature after all.
Not racist. All races can use contacts for their eyes to be blue, and dye their hair blonde or get blonde extensions. Height requirement is not racist. And being slim can be achieved by anyone not eating junk food all the time.
Tall slim blonde blue eyes is not my beauty ideal. I guess I'm not famous so my opinion doesn't matter though right?
That's the point thou. They'd have to change how they look and conform to this white ideal. Why can't they be beautiful without having to change? That is why this notion is racist.
They can be beautiful without having to change. But it's not up to the individual to say wether he or she is beautiful. Beauty is a matter of taste, not race so it can't be racist. Who says the only beautiful people out there are tall slim blondes with blue eyes anyway?
It's all about selection. And no, not everyone can be beautiful since beauty , again, is about taste.
Beauty is one of those society specific things, what is beautiful to a Western eye is not to an Asian, African, or Māori eye. though the Western value of beauty is being seen as the norm as it is being pushed by ad agencies and multinational cosmetic companies.
Go see a Victoria Secret parade. Not all of them are blonde and yet they all represent the ideal version of beauty. They even have in the parede Asians and black girls. In an industry that survives out of beauty, do you really think that they would show anything that wasn't what is considered beautiful by society?
Everybody gets to choose what they want and like. That's not racism.
Racism is about down-casting people due to their origin. Not wanting to date them is not down-casting.
I wonder if someone is creating these stupid threads on purpose.
Because that whole paragraph is nonsense.
Why?
1. Beauty ideals in what social context? America? The UK? France? Japan? Nigeria? Iran? Chile?
2. Even in American society, different sub-communities have their own ideas about what is beautiful.
3. I think what you may be getting at is that "White" American society used to project its values/standards as universal. So if a movie was considered to be a great movie, it was supposed to be "objectively great". "White" women as standards of beauty were "objectively beautiful", in that they were the most beautiful on the planet according to every society. But that largely does not happen any longer.
And this is the difference between our statements. I stated something more common sense. It is backed up by facts and history. But you didn't say any of that.
Lupita Nyungo was voted one of the most beautiful people last year. A mere decade earlier that would not have been possible. But standards are changing. In terms of other communities outside the supposed "Black" American one and the supposed "White" American one, we still do not appear to have the capability to have media that reflects those standards, values, etc. For all the criticism about how "liberal" Hollywood is, it sure does a lousy job of showing that diversity. And I am not certain of how anyone can change that.
Strawberry blonde I consider myself special cause I'm unique but this dress makes me look fat lol I change my opinion on what I like on guys so I'm sure girls same I used to like tall dark and handsome with dark eyes now I like blonde blue eyes guys or redheads so I guess people can change they basically want what they can't have lol over time I'm 42.
There is not ONE beauty ideal it depends on your country, your culture and on a smaller scale it depends on a personal preference.
But even then, a beauty ideal is not racist, it doesn’t say that others are ugly, it’s just that, an ideal.
Asians can be blonde.
Its not racist to have a preference. Cuz with that kind of argument, im automatically homophobic because I only date men
Everyone has their own beauty ideals. Tall slim blonde with blue eyes? Believe me not everyone describes this as their ideal
I concur...
It's not racist if you prefer women with traits common in your own ethnic group.
Media ideals are racists if you look on it from perspective of different ethnic groups.
No they aren't. There are different beauty ideals all over the world. Stop whining. The only racists here are the ones who keep bringing it up and making everything they see about race.
It depends on culture i guess
Beauty ideals are created by the media. It doesn't reflect actual standards of beauty by real people. I've attracted to all kinds of colors, shapes, and size.
Of course not. This type of talk is just stupid.
People are too loose with the term racist and racism these days. People try to label too many things as racist.
It distracts from real racism.
Who the actual fuck wants tall on a woman? Honestly what kind of little femdom gayboys do u hang around with
No they are not racist because every man of every race would agree that a blonde with blue eyes is beautiful nobody is saying other races can't be beautiful too
@HereIbe Of course I am not saying all blondes are hot but the kind she described are
No. I'm not white (well half anyways) but white women are my preference because I've grown up surrounded by white people. My beauty ideals were crimes from my surroundings. That said this may not apply to everyone
Not really black, white , Hispanic who cares true beauty is what really matters and a persons biological race doesn't really choose for them that is really their decision and whatever god made them with overtime
Not really. Asia has their own beauty standards, Africa theirs, etc.
European and US beauty standards are white standards (mostly), since they are both white in majority.
It's not rocket science.
Are all white people tall and blond?
Not even close, vast msjority of whites are average height (5'9 I think) and brunette.
Different societies have different racial ideal- heck even individuals do.
Beauty is subjective. I don't understand what's hard about that concept. Ever heard the saying "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder"? That saying is ancient so it should be common knowledge by now.
Beauty standards are subjective. What I'm attracted to will be different than what Joe schmoe is attracted to. Because of that beauty standards cannot be racist.
Every culture has different beauty standards, it's not racist, it just how it is. Beauty is very subjective too.
I'm sure the ideal isn't a blonde slim white girl if you're in africa, or in asia.
As it is in America.
Women of all heights 4'11"-6'1 are popular and blonde/brunett largely does not matter in US. American men care mostly about weight and curves. If woman have hourglass body type ie slim with gifted by curves, she is attractive. Does not matter if she is 5' or 6', brunett or blond
I think in Scandinavia height of women matters more than weight and curves. Asian men prefer white skinned women. Beauty ideals are cultural.
Yeah, you're very right. That's why I think it's weird that the poster thinks it's racist, all different cultures have different ideals
I dont think it is racist and I dont think there is a tall blond women ideal in US. I guess she lives in Scandinavia where guys hype on talller women, (still not sure about blond) but yeah some Scandinavian guys did myTakes here tjat they particularly want tall women.
American men prefer smaller women in general. Petite women with natural curves are more popular here than 6' skinny models. Im 5'4" myself and most guys said they would rather this size than model size. But again, these are American guys.
Some of them sure are, and often classist, sexist, ageist, and ableist too.
personally I think we are attracted partly to our parents and partly by our nationality
No that is not the objective idea off beauty just the western stereo type off it
Okay beauty ideals set by the media isn't fair but in real life everyone has different tastes.
Don't have to change your mind, because it's the white beauty ideal.
Everyone has their own beauty ideal...
It depends where you live people usually find people who look like them more attractive.
Yes, beauty standards are lightskin is good and darkskin is bad, so that’s racist also the fatty eyelids that majority Asians have are also considered ugly so that’s racist too
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I'm not white
I haven't blue eyes blond hair
I'm not tall
I'm not slim
So I'm not barbie but I want to a lot of slaves
Yes it is. I prefer black women and latinas, but hey! keep on pushing blonde hair and blue eyes like they're the only standards out there. It's getting old.
Hell no! Different cultures have different beauty stands.
It is to many but I don't think it is a problem. Most people are attracted to skin tones similar to their own.
Of course beauty ideals are racist. But I think different races probably have different ideals.
They r a little racist deal with it thats the world
Media is always racist. But racism is not always bad
Every girl in different backgrounds and race can be Beautiful.
“Ideals” is a misnomer. They’re more accurately termed *trends.*
Job done, not racist.
i like black girls with big asses and yes the beauty standards in media are surely racist but it's always been women who buy into these stuff
Yes they are I’m not sure if you have had the opportunity to take a race and ethnic relations class but this is actually covered
No, no no. Quit being a snowflake.
Beauty ideals are relative to different people
The only racist here is you who doesn't like white people.
All White girls are racist as shit to black men but u must admit the one in the picture is fine as hell
Trust me when white women fuck black men - a lot of them think they now have a pass to say any type of N WORD possible and when they get mad call them a monkey.
My dad is white and my mom is black but that’s how my biracial friends with black dads experienced with their mothers talking shit about black guys a lot. It’s like they think they have a pass all because they got BBC.
I also think it goes both ways regardless of gender a lot of times. My father is racist af and says all the time full blooded black women have carpet hair and they are niggers🤢🤮 I legit hate him.
He just got married to his 4th 20 year old black African wife at about 60 years old ( he said he had known her for 8 years ) . he married my mother when she was 19 and met her at 16 when he was in his 30s.
He calls people in Dubai sand monkeys under his breath, Americans hippos and Asians Ching Chong’s
@ up64! I actually see Latinas dating black more more than white women
@sexylexi99! Why the hell did he get a black woman pregnant if he's so racist and we're niggers? Lol
I just don't like white women. I just think white people are just hateful and tough to deal with
Ew he's a child predator just like all white men. White people are so racist they never ever in my life aknowledged that I'm Dominican just because I have darker skin. Latina women see it, but not whites. 😋 I'm only half Dominican though but a lot of Latinas think I'm full Dominican
Is your dating preference racist?
Yes they very much so are
No their just a preference.
Who ideals are these. Lol
Many white Americans. I’ve seen a few white guys only date the same blonde hair and blue eyes but then this white guy i went to an Irish bar with was so cringe - he talked about how he used to only like blondes with big boobs (ended up marrying one) and now sexy thick Latina is in- I had to interrupt and tell him I’m a black&white&South Asian mixed girl from Australasia
@sexylexi99 blond blue eye and tall
Yes tall because Europeans are taller than most people on average
Beauty ideals are fucked up in general.
It depends on the society where you live.
Which country have racist beauty ideals? How is it in US?
Every country has beauty ideals tied to its own demographic make up. How could African beauty ideals be relevant to some little villages in Afghanistan for example? That wouldn't make any sense.
so in other words Hitler's preferred woman?
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