I don’t think you quite grasp the full gravity of homosexuality and what it means. The same logic can be applied to lesbians who want to have the appearance of a man, or being “butch” so to speak.Effeminacy in men has a lot to do with a mindset. Most of us are familiar with the stereotype of a “gay voice.” A man speaks at a higher pitch, and in a more melodious fashion. This can be due to high estrogen levels or simply because his brain is more female than male.Estrogen levels can reach a certain concentration and stimulate part of the hypothalamus, the small portion of the brain that regulates body temp and sex drive.
@Ninjazzed I do understand the gravity of homosexuality and don't disagree with you because I know that lots of homosexuals have identity issues and want to identify as members of the opposite sex.My thrust in my post - and I know that I wasn't clear - is that fashion choices are not intrinsic to sexuality and orientation.The butch lesbian who wants to dress like a man or the gay boy who wants to wear feminine makeup are doing so because these are the current fashion / makeup trends for these genders. The gay boy wants to wear makeup to appear more like a woman because he feels himself more as a woman than a man. But, make-up doesn't define who a woman is. And, furthermore, the gay boy is not a woman.Like the butch lesbian, he should be free to dress however he wants and that includes make-up. But I have the freedom to not like it. And I don't like it really primarily because, as the hypothetical father of a gay boy, I see the make-up as a target. Old adages: 1) The tallest blade of grass is the one that is cut first. 2) It's the squeaky wheel that gets the oil. In both of these, action happens to you when you call attention to yourself. A boy appearing feminine like that screams out being gay and sets him up for harassment or violence. Being gay should be a private matter; if you don't want to be treated differently don't act differently.So, I understand what you are saying and don't deny it.I'd want my gay son to survive and thrive in our world and the reality is that the more effeminate he is - (especially when by choice of clothes or make-up), the less likely he will survive and thrive.
“Being gay should be a private matter; if you don't want to be treated differently don't act differently”Yeah, I don’t think so. People will stick out like a sore thumb, so I wouldn’t expect them not to deviate from the collective hivemind. It’s something you’re born with, that’s like telling a disabled person not to appear disabled, even though it’s beyond their control.
@Ninjazzed Do you have a job? Do you want to KEEP your job? Then you understand that there are certain expectations on behavior. You are free to do what you want (once, at least), but others don't have to like it and THEY have the freedom to react accordingly - including firing people.
Basically all these people are reckless drug abusers.What a great sample.
Thank you ❤️
@A_Bell To be fair, most celebrities are reckless drug abusers. Correlation, not causation. I could say "My straight male friend wears makeup and he's fine", but that isn't a good example because you don't know him. A better opinion would to list celebrities as examples because, y'know, everyone knows celebrities.
@ilikefrogsalot Fucking exactly
You are dark skinned I am guessing
Being black doesn't mean I’m dark skinned. My skin is darker than a nonblack person, yes. Bt that has nothing to do with not wanting my kid to wear makeup
I'm tired and read that as ballet rectals. And now all I can visualize is butts with just feet instead of entire legs coming out of them.
What the hell does it matter the color of her skin you piece of garbage, she simply said no kid in her household will wear makeup until they are 18 and if they are a male not under her roof. I am not dark skinned and no son of mine will wear make up under my roof either, I also agree with her feeling about her daughter not being allowed to wear make-up accept for special occasions. If I have a daughter she will only wear lip gloss and if I have a son he can use blistex or chap stick for rough lips. Other then that NO, NO, NO! I guess I am dark skinned also, right. Here is your sign, "IDIOT"
@johnsmithjs I am only saying that because many dark skinned black women in America choose not to wear makeup. Depending on how dark the skin is, is often doesn’t look the same.
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And if your son said he wanted to try playing with fire and gasoline cans you'd say that? There's no need for an open mind on every topic, actually.
But there is a way to show the the power it holds. Hoe distrusctive but also how it cooks our foods. Not everything is black and white. Let kids explore but you still have to supervise them. We need kids who are able to make their own decisions but are also aware of the good and bad that comes with them
Some things are simply irresponsible for an adult to let a kid play with like crossing an interstate highway at rush hour. Analogies aren't perfect. Yes, parent A. is free to try and experiment with their kid's life while parent B. says 'nope'
Well said 👍👍👏
Then how does that child learn to think for themselves and become an adult?
@VIVANT obviously when they're no longer considered a "child". Why would a child have to think for itself when it is not under any obligation yet? Once it reaches a certain age then it can begin to think for itself
if he's lucky.
Typical drivel that’s taught in schools now
Cool, let the boys wear bikinis and bras.
I pray for the day all of it collapses — people have been brainwashed by media for so long they they cannot think anymore
Why did you put makeup on your boyfriend?
it's weird and it's even weirder that he is liking it, are you sure he's straight, has he been wearing makeup regularly since?
He's not straight. We are both bisexual. Most straight men (not all) consider makeup too feminine to wear. No he doesn't! He just likes to experiment with it occasionally. He didn't Doo anything crazy, basically how I do my makeup. We just out some brown eyeshadow under his lower lid, eyeliner on the waterline and filled in his brows. Basically like this https://pin.it/7lRlBe2
Oh ok no problem
Yeah, I generally don't see why men wearing makeup is an issue. Like I get not wanting to wear it yourself, I just don't get the public freakout.
Yes no problem for me
There's mean people no matter who you are, what you are, what you wear, or where you're from. If you teach them to be respectful an only to cast as much judgment as they would care to be judged then they would be fine.
They wouldn't though... I've seen it myself
It's more accepted now then ever!
Its ok to be gay bi dress in the opposite genders clothes. Fashion is so mixed now as well. If that's how someone is what ever. Do you not watch tv, Hulu, Netflix
There are gays and lesbians in almost every show at least one. No one really cares
People should just be themselves instead of being told who to be. Even as children, let's them like what they want encourage them positives in their interest. They will grow much quicker find them selves thus being happier
You haven't grown up in the same environment I have.
Where do you live? Because rapists get a lot of hate in America.
No man. People show more hate towards homos than rapists even in Europe. Dont you realize the homophobic comments under your question. People even victim blame women rather blaming the rapists.
I even see so many comments by americans how they victim blame and defend cat-calling/harrassment
Homophobia is still big deal in america
Sorry for replying so much. I even see how many americans think rape in marriage is ok
I don’t think it’s as simple as you are making it seem. Most people who dislike homophobia don’t want them to actually die. They think of them having some type of mental disorder. Most people actually want rapists to die. That is real hate. I think what you mean is that they talk about their dislike of homosexuality more.
So I understand what you are saying it’s a good point.
I dont know. I ask questions about rape in marriage. Many americans think rape in marriage ain't rape for them.
Majority of americans are very conservative and religious
I mean i can't generalize, of course. But if the majority of a population is conservative and religious according to statistics they tend to be backwarded. I am from a conservative, religious and traditional country and majority of them were backwarded. Of course not all conservative and religioous people are like thar but homosexuality is sin in many big religions and there is no consent when it comes to sex in marriage, which is rape, in religions.
" I think what you mean is that they talk about their dislike of homosexuality more." Omg yes this is actually what i mean
It's not about emotion for me. It's about the principles I know are important for me to pass down to future generations. A son who wants to be a girl in my home is in the wrong home. He can go live with somebody else or follow the rules of my home.
You are a idiot, rapists are murdered in prison and faggots are just forced to suck cock or take it up the ass. You are stupid! No-one likes a rapist.
@johnsmths I love how fags under my post dont get my post. Go read my other posts under my first post, you fool. Stfu. Rapists dont get killed wtf. Same people like you dont have a problem with victim blaming rape victims, piece of shit. The commentsection prove my point. People show their dislike towards homosexual more fucktard. You idiots can't even read and understand a shit without getting triggered aka get butthurt, piece of shit I will block anyone who insult me, fag
@hahahamm i agree to disagree thank you that you dont insult at least
@johnsmithjs i have make a lot questions about rape. Many people dont see rape in marriage as rape, blame women if they wear non modest clothes etc. The whole comments section prove my point. People talk about their dislike towards homosexual men more rather than rapists, cat-callers etc. If you are blind to see that, then that is your problem.
Look i dont want to continue any conversation. What i mean is that people talk about their dislike about homosexual people more than rapists. Comment section prove my point. You can agree to disagree, dislike and then f off. Stop spamming me, otherwise i will delete you😉
Nobody seems to have a problem with all of their favorite actors wearing makeup. All the pretty boys in magazines.
Whatever. I dont understand why people are so triggered over adult men wearing make up
I will report any violent opinion. Please do it too. It was kinda shocking to me to see so many agressive posts
Wrong, a man who induldges in feminine behavior is not truly a man and will not be perceived as such. Such a man will also have a hard time finding a mate.
Wrong? 🤣 My husband loves to cook, clean, garden, bake, and he’ll even massage my feet. All things that are typically considered feminine behavior. He’s very masculine, and secure with his manhood. As his “mate”, I can assure you that I am not wrong.
Those aren't truly feminine traits as these are mandatory things to keep one healthy. Plenty of men who are single and live alone have to cook and clean (gardening is often seen as something men do). Masassing feet isn't truly assigned to a gender either considering that's what you do to take care of your partner. I do it to my care and she does it to me. Truly feminine traits are not leading the relationship, wearing makeup as a man, being easily intimidated, constantly complaining, crying etc.
Make him a man again that's right!
Ngl that would push him further away from you so it would have the opposite effect than what you want
@Farah_luna thats fine. I dont need him close. If he wants anything to do with me he cannot do that. He needs to be out of my life for him to do faggotry shit. 100%. Thats the only chance he would ever stop tbh. If you accept it then it will never end. And if it never ends you need to cut the bad to keep the good before it infects the other children.
Yup, this is what they do in the military and for good reason too.
what’s the suicide rate of vets? Highest of any group. Bangin’ teaching the youth how to survive in the world. .
Also beating & abandoning your kid to the wild is pretty much going to lose you your parental rights anyhow... May as well just not have kids. MAKE UP > VIOLENCE
I meant make up is greater then violence. If it turned out your kid liked make up & you try to beat it out of him that will harm him& damage him forever.. Make up will only make you uncomfortable. Parents are meant to be advocates for their children’s rights. Children have the right to live free from abuse. Mental and physical... Also once you attack a person for who they are you can't control the consequences. This csn affect society not just you snd your Son. we have to respect each other to maintain respect. People who feel dehumanized can lash out at themselves or the population. There’s no way of knowing. There are so many problems and ramifications of using violent power over someone who is still developing- aside from it being cruel. that in itself should be a deterrent. I know parents can think they mean well but violence is violence and we can disagree with how we view it personally, but statistically violative in childhood is bad news in adulthood. Depression, addiction alcoholism , drugs, sex, , obesity, eating disorders, rape —victim or perpetrator, crime, suicide, Look plenty of parents don’t allow make up fair enough but don’t try to beat personality out of your kid. its a monstrous act and it creates monsters. We have enough of those in the world already. Figure out another way to deal with your differences. Your kid will be an adult one day and you will have no control at that point. build respect for self and others while their is time. That’s my two cents.
@VIVANT no. Violence is very important when raising sons especially but daughters too to a degree. There are literally kids breaking the family tv or doing drugs or stealing money... the parents say "oh little johnny dont do that, but we dont spank in this house so just know its wrong what you did" that does not work. You need to kick their fucking ass and take all their shit from them one way or another until they play by the rules... and if they won't accept the punishment then they need to be tossed out on their ass with nothing. This strategy has worked for thousands of years... as evidenced by society today and all the anti spanking bullshit... that is not working at all. Not even close. What do you think happened to boys who wanted to wear makeup in the early 1900s? They didn't wear it nor did they even mention they would want to wear it because they knew they would get beat. And that was that.
And I'm hoping that all the people who are saying no or that they'd disown or beat their son for this, I hope they never have kids.