The idea that men put unrealistic standards on women's beauty is a myth. Agree or disagree?

[Anonymous]

[MCheetah]

100% myth. Women expect to have men call them "10 out of 10s" because so many women have inflated, egotistical opinions of themselves (propped up by feminism, social media, and simps), and then when men are honest with them and tell them they're actually 5s or 6s, they lose their sh*t. Anything less than a 9 and they lose their sh*t. All because they follow this BS Victoria's Secret, euro-centric idea of what "beauty" is: 5'10", 120 pounds, and a 34C cup, which other women in the fashion industry, create and spread.

Most men are not picky when it comes to women's looks. I'm not (although I consider most people to be unattractive; it doesn't mean I wouldn't date them or would reject them; it's just a fact of life most people do not look like models or Photoshopped images.)

In short, women create their own impossible beauty and fashion standards, assume they can live up to them, then get mad at men when they fail to live up to their own impossible standards.

Which is no real surprise; really. "Woman does something wrong; it's men's fault somehow."

[Weapon77]

Agree. It's complicated, but anymore it is MOSTLY women putting those standards on each other or themselves. But we have to know biology, and the way it works is women want men, so they compete with each other for the best men. Attractiveness is one way they compete (as do men), so they strive to be as physically appealing as possible, and it has side effects. One side effect is pursuing unrealistic standards. Blaming men for that is only indirectly true. An incredibly small percentage of men go around daily verbally telling women how to look to please them... like really low number. Have you ever met one? I've only met 5 in my life. Many women just get upset that they get rejected by men who don't find them appealing, and those same men choose women who look certain ways.

[Apple1996]

I've met probably 100s if not 1000s of men that tell women off about how they look. Literally happens here everyday on the how do I look topic...

[Weapon77]

How the fuck do you think that's the same thing? First of all, the internet is populated by assholes who obviously will say whatever, sometimes just to troll people about untrue things. Second, when women ASK how they look online, what the fuckety-fuck do you expect to be the answer? Of course people are going to ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION. Don't ask a question you don't want an answer to. Here's the reality: at least 50% of women want men and women to be constantly telling them how hot they are, regardless of whether they are actually attractive. Then when they try to use the internet for an ego boost and it backfires because people will actually answer with their opinions, they get upset. I guess they just expect guys to do what all their girl friends do and give them kind but untrue compliments or sugarcoat things. You won't get that from rude strangers on the internet, so why expect it?

I'm talking about in person. The fact that your only example was pn the internet shows how out of touch with reality you are. Please put the phone down and go outside and OBSERVE.

[Apple1996]

In person this also happens just more in a quiet way. I was just giving the example of gag since that is what we are on and it's easy to see

[Apple1996]

Can't even count the times I've been in a group of guys and they point out girls flaws. Literally almost every single time I'm in or even just around a group of men I hear them talking shit on women's looks

[Anonymous]

I've sat and talked with a few people and they seem to believe it's women. It's mainly women who tear each other down. Usually guys don't care what your body looks like, they'll find something that they love about it.

But I've seen that women will just hate everything about you for nothing.

[TopTier]

Yeah and the comments come at you randomly. Like i thought we were friends? Now you're hating?

[Opinion Owner]

Yup! Have you noticed that when you have one little fall out, all of a sudden they have all of this negative stuff to say about you?

[Asker]

The most honest woman in G@G

[AmyHew1tt]

It's not a myth. Men have done, and still do that. It's just not the whole truth. Men and women affect each other's beauty standards.

[Asker]

Women only think that because the small percentage of men women do pay attention to that have options are more picky about looks. Thus women start to generalize and think we're all like that

[AmyHew1tt]

A few women do. That's generalizing on its own. I can fully acknowledge that women do just as much harm to women's standards as men do, if not more at times. There are countless rants on here with guys coming off the same way, saying all women judge them unreasonably, and are superficial bitches.
I am not here to argue with your post. Only to say there's nothing bad in everyone just accepting the negative ways we can affect each other, and instead of trying to push the blame entirely on the opposite gender, just work toward not doing it ourselves. Already for a long time, women have agreed that girls really damage each other. But we don't need to deny men have played any part in toxic standards to do that.

[Asker]

Most men dont give a shit

[Looksnicholas]

I'd say it's a myth because many women have often I've read, said and it's reinforced to me often: women choose to buy consumer goods that are fashion and makeup, and women for women choose to buy what's marketed to them, namely fashion, make-up, spa treatments and other such wonderful things 😆😆

So anyways, after all, women wear push-up bra's, women get the boob jobs. They're not doing it for us men, surely not, and I do mean that, the women are doing their beauty treatments, or fashion purchases, for themselves, not for any man (includes sassy emoji here) 😋😋👀😁

[Looksnicholas]

Women choose these things, and they do it for themselves, they don't do it for men, and I'm often reminded of that, in everyday pop culture. Women are quite capable of not needing a man or a man's approval, and bless them 🥳🥳♀️

[AnUglyBarnacle]

In my household while watching TV together, my father has never commented on a woman's appearance unless footage of some freakshow was on screen. He doesn't mention anything about men's appearance either. I seldom express anything either.

Now, my mother and two grandmothers? Oh, they're ruthless.

[AdithyaR]

I feel like both genders seem to our standards on themselves more than the other does it.
Men out unrealistic expectations on men and women on women. But of course there are men who do it to women and vice versa.
Honestly i think it's just a matter of shitty people than a particular gender being bad.

[Apple1996]

Disagree. Men will sit here and say "oh I prefer a natural girl with no makeup, dresses however she wants, weight at whatever, etc" then go and judge the girls that don't wear makeup, dress nice or is a bit too skinny/too chubby.

[Asker]

Most men dont. You're just bitter the top value men have standards so then you generalise all the same. You have a lot of honest women saying that women put those standards on eachother. Not men

[Apple1996]

Men and women are the same way about beauty standards.
And this has nothing to do with being bitter. It's just a general observation that I've made about men. y'all say you like natural beauties yet don't even know what that really looks like. And especially with the weight thing so many men judge and say they won't date girls over 130 etc. Yet don't even understand what 130 looks like

[Asker]

Nope. Men and women aren't the same. I repeat in big caps MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME. We're different in how we view things. Men like all kinds of diffrent types from bbws to chubby to fit to athletic etc. Men are visual but visual in the sense that we can find anything sexy and get turned on by it. Women's visual tends to be very specific which is fine. But men and women aren't the same

[Asker]

And im talking in the general sense

[Apple1996]

That's like the point of men running beauty standards. y'all care about the things you are into. Women don't. We aren't sitting here putting men into categories of fetishes. Literally by you saying "Men like all kinds of diffrent types from bbws to chubby to fit to athletic etc." That's putting unrealistic standards on us to fit into one of those categories.
If there were no standards from men that shit wouldn't exist we'd just be our fucking selfs and not have to fit any of those

[Asker]

If you didn't then what's the point of pursuing it? That's a really dumb take. Women go after things too just like men do. And how is that putting pressure when there's men you'll run into men that prefer your look? Men are more open so how is that putting pressure on you? Give me a break

[Apple1996]

I've never gone after a guy cuz of his looks and the majority of girls don't.
It's unnecessary pressure cuz we shouldn't have to be thrown into a category that men made up cuz of their "preferences"🤢

[Apple1996]

And why would I want to be with a guy that prefers my looks? Any guy who is that shallow to be caring about looks can get fucked

[Asker]

"I've never gone after a guy cuz of his looks and the majority of girls don't." That's cap. Most women are attracted to looks just like men. This is just politically correct garbage you're spewing now. Most people are attracted to looks first. That's human nature

[Apple1996]

Only shallow people are attracted to looks first. Neither me or my husband are with each other cuz of looks. There were other things that drove us together

[Apple1996]

Human nature is actually has to do with being attracted to pheromones first. Looks seem to be something thats more for online dating so for them sure looks might drive the relationship since they are doing something unnatural to find a partner

[Asker]

Politcally correct stuff i hear over and over again especially from women. Yet their actions always tell a different story. In general most women do care about looks and then the other qualities matter afterwards. Just like for men. You lose credibility in the things you say when you deny something that's been part of humanity for millions of years

[LiamJHayden]

Some men do, but most don't. This is demonstrated on dating sites where most guys will hit of average and above women. If anything, the opposite is true, with women in a range from 4 and up on a 10 scale thinking that they deserve guys who are 8 and above and won't give the time of day to guys whom they see as lower rated.

[CA4444]

I’d say women put these standards on themselves I find men are much ‘nicer’ than women often in terms of looks

[CA4444]

More specifically not other women, we just compare ourselves to what we see outside and since everything is so fake and edited now it does become unrealistic

[Asker]

Dang there's honest women on G@G today

[CateM]

Not a myth. They're also doing this with other men as well. Women are doing this too. It's one of the patriarchy's twisted schemes

[CateM]

But fortunately, not everyone is like this

[Asker]

Please dont ever mention that word patriachy again. It's cringe

[CateM]

Why not? It still exists

[Asker]

No it doesn't

[Anonymous]

Anyone with a brain, knows that women dress for other women. No, this isn't a bi thing, it's just a fashion thing. She knows that you will accept her in anything short of a burlap sack, but the other women at the party will be ruthless.

[TopTier]

Only logical women aren't bi, and a woman concerned with others opinions isn't logical.

[Sixgunsound]

It's been my experience that corporations and other women are a lot harder on women regarding beauty standards than men are. They are just brutal to teen girls though.

[dolemite89]

disagree, women are just always trying to shoot out their league with guys that are better than them. There’s a guy that will think a girl is pretty with no make up on but he’s prob not the guy she thinks she deserves.

[dolemite89]

*agree, it is just a myth.

[bamesjond0069]

It's all women. Competing with each other and other women trying to take shortcuts... like 300lbs spending 300$ on makeup... like that's going to do anything 🤣

[artsy_dragon]

I never do that

[aaron210419]

Women put unrealistic standards on women, most men would prefer less makeup

[Looksnicholas]

Ditto. I've never understood nor ever seen (and I'm likely to ever see, in reality, lol) a woman who's got great natural beauty, no pimple scars, no wrinkles or blemishes even in their 20s or 30s and yet, and yet: they apply a good inch worth of foundation, lipstick, eyeshadow, I mean, my eyes just go, not gaga, but my eyes just roll my eyes and it's a turn off for me, hahaha it's a no from me hahaha 👀👀👀😁😅 please don't dislike my opinion politely and respectfully please, all. Please respectfully.

[Alex8736]

the only way i can think of a guy putting unrealistic standards are one's who watch a lot of porn and has a complex separating fantasy vs reality

[Anonymous]

Myth. Look at any WOMEN's magazine. In ain't guys telling her repeatedly what she needs to work on.

[Anonymous]

Kind of a myth. See the top 10% of (rich) men get to say their standards and some women choose to only hear from them.

[Anonymous]

Most men don't care, women do that to themselves so that they can attract guys more attractive, rich, or of higher social class than themselves.

[Anonymous]

Yeah--it's not MEN that are driving this. lol!

[artsy_dragon]

I think both genders are to blame tbh

[joeldalton]

of course it is.

[sheikalana]

I agree.