Why can men impose beauty standards on women but not vice versa?

[Anonymous]

I kinda see this all the time. I know the reverse can happen too, but personally I met so many men both in real life and online that listed off things what makes a woman a woman, and if she does not tick the box, she is a try hard, not a real woman, a loser, underdeveloped or a lesbian, a man in disguise or woke. And when my friend (who is hot by the way) told her her own standarts, that she preffers men about 5'8 foot till 6 foot with a nice face and hair, the same men started raging that women are shallow and unreal about their standarts. Even though they also wanted the stereotypical 90-60-90 type of woman with a nice face.

[RingOfFire]

This goes deep into nature territory. Nature and evolution created men to provide and protect the family unit which is the most important unit for survival of the human species. Nature created women to have babies, nurture them and take the primary role in raising them while the men were out hunting and bringing home the bacon. Men are physically and mentally designed by nature for their role in this most essential activity and women are physically and mentally designed for their role.

Because of this, men and women each put a different emphasis on what is attractive to them in a mating partner (since survival of the species is all about mating).

Yes, women care about a man's looks, but even more important to their level of attraction is how good a provider and protecter a man is for her and the children she was created to produce. And yes, men care about other things in a woman, but looks are one of the most important because it is that physical appearance that makes a man have the necessary physical reaction without which natural mating would not be possible.

So nature designed men to focus much more heavily on a woman's looks that it designed women to focus on a man's looks. This is part of the human survival mechanism.

And that is why, across virtually all cultures, and for millions of years of history of the human race, women have been much more obsessed with focusing on their appearance and adorning themselves in order to attract men. It's nature that they all have in common. Clothing, jewelry, cosmetics, plastic surgery, perfumes, etc. women spend many times what men do on this kind of thing. (From nature's point of view) it's all about an instinct to attract a male, have children and contribute to the survival of the species.

Even looking at the differences in clothing styles supports this. Women wear bright colors and flashy body revealing styles (plus sparkling jewelry and makeup) to attract attention. Men mostly wear black and white and maybe sometimes grey, or navy (or drab colors that don't attract attention).

It's no different than many other animal species where the looks of one gender (usually the female) are what attracts the other gender and results in mating for survival of the species.

[Asker]

I appriciate your insight and your truthfullness. Most men wouldn't admit that. But biologically you are wrong.

In most animal species, if not all, its the males that look flashy, both in birds, reptiles, and mammals. Like in deers with the horns and lions with the mane. Plus even in apes. Humans primarly changed that strategically because in agricultur people focused onto securing more offsprings and property. That ties to women's reproduction. If all men get a woman, the chances are bigger that the children are secured to the father, plus less competition around males and more babies. By origin, males are the ones that must perform physically the best cuz they contribute the genes for the baby, and the best one wins. Thats why spermquality and the father's health determinds the baby's too so much, henc why so many pregnancy complications, deformities or misscarriege can happen.

Women could only survive trough this situation if they maintained a hyrachie designed trough looks.

Thats what I know from fresh science.
Also: the hunter and gatherer myth has been debucked. Both men and women hunted and gathered back then.

[RingOfFire]

Yes there are some species where the male has the flash to get the attention of a female. But in most, even in those cases and including in humans, it is the male who is the pursuer and the female who is the pursued.

[RingOfFire]

I should add that horns on deer are more likely physical traits that are a sign of a good protector than a flashy ornamental attraction, perhaps like strong muscles on human males. Better examples of male species that use seemingly ornamental attraction that come to mind than the ones you offered are male pheasants with their fancy feathers or male cardinals with their bright red feathers.

[nastyb]

ok. and how are old, saggy, weak men supposed to protect? no offense but im not interested in an old man who can't protect me. I like my men young handsome tall and strong with a full head of hair

[RingOfFire]

@nastyb

Sorry you are so triggered by the facts, but the concept that might help you become less bitter is that nature doesn't care about fairness, it's primary concern is survival of the species without which nothing else matters.

A males ability to fulfill his natural role of providing and protecting can actually increase with age as he accumulates experience, wisdom, property and wealth, whereas a females ability to fulfill her natural role of bearing children has a fixed time element and a very short window which declines exponentially after age 30.

So an old, saggy, physically weak man can still have the ability to excel at his role while an old, saggy, infertile women cannot.

[nastyb]

@RingOfFire

Young women aren't attracted to old weak ugly men because older men tend to produce less healthy children. Old men can't protect either. A 45 yr old isn't going to win a fight against a 29 yr old.

Young men produce much healthier children than old men. That's why most young women end up marrying Young men.

If you are an old saggy ugly man, sometimes an infertile old ugly woman is the only thing you can get. No Young woman with options will settle for an old man that she isn't attracted to

[nastyb]

Youth is a signal of good reproductive health. This applies to men too.

[RavVid]

I've heard many women say men make us dress like this, they make us wear that, they make us behave this way. When we haven't at all.

What they are actually complaining about is that we respond to cleavage tops and short skirts and that we aren't fat positive and p[refer slender.

We don't make you do anything. You just care about how men respond to you; that's on you.

[Asker]

That was... literally not the point of my post. Possible that you are one of *those* guys?

Look dude, because you gave me a life lesson of your own, I give you a piece of mine: Men having prefferences does not justify them calling women who do not meet those unwomanly or a guy in disguise. Prefferences are fine, being a little cunt is not.

Are you a cunt? If not, you will know where your lines are.

[RavVid]

It was the exact point of your question. Perhaps you should have asked a different one if your question was different.

Pretty much women who don't appeal are invisible to us. I have never known a guy to say what you have said they say

[Asker]

It was not. I was talking about the double standart of how the exact same men who have a requierment of women to be 90-60-90 get angry when the same women voice a prefference of men to be xy and the same men get mad at that.

It literally has nothing to do with whatever you were saying. With all duo respect, sort out your reading skills and your Interpretation skills.

[RavVid]

I attacked the easy to disprove first half of your premise. Since that fails it all fails and is disproven together.

[Asker]

Attacked? Dude... You make no sense, just like every reply of yours. I dread you can't even read correctly just want to huff and puff at me cuz I have a c*nt. Go to a gay bar and relieve yourself there. But leave me out of this wacky emotional rollercoaster.

[beenherebefore]

I don't remember ever seeing men imposing beauty standards on women. I've seen both men and women list their preferences and I don't see nothing wrong with that, if we all had the same preferences things would be way more complicated than they are now. I think women are way more opiniated and judgmental of each other than men.

[blackeagle007]

Thank you

[Screenwriter]

Men still dominate the purse strings and are in control of most of what goes on in the world. So they more often set the standards and their standards are also more often external rather than wholistic.

[blackeagle007]

Every man you speak to, do they tell you these standards?

[Screenwriter]

@blackeagle007 Nah. They don't outline them point to point, but I've heard tell from many. You especially know if they show no interest in you, but catch them eyeing others.. You can suss it out...

[blackeagle007]

Come on, women do the same. Women are as visual as men. Women do choose based on physical attraction. Read some of the posts on here, many females admit they only want attractive men

[Screenwriter]

@blackeagle007 Well, of course. Who doesn't want a person they consider attractive! But, if you get to know someone well, they become better and better looking to you. They might not be classically handsome... but they aren't hideous!!

[blackeagle007]

Well why is there a divide? Woman hold higher standards. Women are why it’s men can’t get dates.

[Asker]

To add my own insight to the convo: I think the say that men get rejected for their looks more is rather an online thing then anything. I know a lot of people, I go to college in a big city and I more often see the reversal. Avarage to below avarage men getting a lot of dates and options while kess fortunate looking girls get little to no one. But thats just my own experience.

[Screenwriter]

But I think often the average looking men have skills that aren't so obvious. Think of Bruce and Demi Moore. Bruce wasn't good looking but he was a competent action star and I bet he had a great sense of humor. Jay Z and Beyonce. Chased her forever and won her over. Not good looking but very accomplished. Will Smith with those goofy ears and Jada. Again, funny and accomplished. Buys a lot of real estate with women!

[CarolineWhizz]

I'm not sure that they all do. My guy likes what I wear, but he doesn't impose it on me. If I ask him for an opinion, say "the blue dress or the black dress?" he will give me a straight answer but won't impose his choice on me. If he says "the black one" but I prefer to wear the blue one, he will be absolutely fine with that. There are some things I know he prefers. If I ask "high heels or flats?" he will ALWAYS say "high heels" even if there's 2 feet of snow outside. He loves me in heels, but he won't insist, though. If I decide on flats, he's fine with it.

[Twalli]

What men typically want are things that a woman can change. Weight and breasts. Those can be changed. Women want height and income. While income may change, if you're not already making 6 figures, switching jobs isn't going to fix that immediately. As for height, that's impossible to change. So typically, men want things that are not fixed, that can be altered. Women want things that aren't easy to change or can't be changed at all. A woman said that when she asks a man for his height, it's a turn off if it doesn't begin with a 6, and a man responded that when he asks a woman her weight, he gets turned off if it begins with a 200. The woman went off on him saying how men are shallow, and that people shouldn't pick based on weight, but thought it was perfectly fine for her to pick based on height.

[Asker]

How can breasts be changed? I am flat and I tried everything but they never changed. Breasts are literally the same as height. Genetics. So thats pretty close to pseudoscience.

On top of that, the world is overpopulated where majority of the population, especially men, cannot make 6 figures. So mathematically the standart that women expect men to make xy would not make any sense. Otherwise, humanity would have never overpopulated.

There is billions of women dating broke guys. Thats just ignorant to say that women are hyperfocused on paycheck. Typically people only believe that if they spend a lot of time on spaces like onlyfans, because those women are the only people who may or may not requier a paycheck so high on avarage.

Not an personal attack. I am just saying from my own experience and analysis.

[Twalli]

Implants, and these expectations aren't with everyone. Some girls don't care about height or income or only care about one of them.

[Asker]

How would women care about income if most men who are dating or have a wife have avarage incomes? I do get that certain women do look out for height. I wouldn't date a guy myself who is way too tall for me over 5'6 ft. because I would feel otherwise pretty uncomfortable. But income? Most people ain't billionairs. Especially in this economy. I know more guys who worked at MC who have already had 5 gfs then none.

[Anonymous]

Most men will be interested in a woman as long as she takes basic care of herself. I'm talking don't be fat, don't have rotting teeth, have long hair, literally just basic things that aren't difficult to achieve. The men who go on about women looking like Instagram models would be too imintinadted to even approach one.

It's women who really impose beauty standards on other women because y'all compete with each other and are just in general mean as shit to each other for some reason.

[Asker]

Strange. I am not overweight and I still got bullied by boys and men for lacking certain assets on my upper body that appeariantly I would requier to be recognized as a woman. But sure. Those men were probably women then in drag.

[Opinion Owner]

I said "most men"

Men are people and some people are assholes.

Generally speaking, most men (unless they're like a rich super chad with options) don't have as high of standards as women say we do. I'd even argue that A LOT of men don't have standards, at all. They don't care where you work, if you even work, what you drive, if you don't drive, etc and appearance wise, go back to covid, men were trying to get with women when they couldn't see their face, for all they know these women could have rotting teeth under that mask.

Most women are average and look how many women complain about being approached by men.

But sure, we'll ignore these facts because you've had some bad experiences with men.

[indissoluble]

Everyone has their own standards. Why beauty standards can be imposed on you, is because you lack depth of human character. You are a shell of a person that depends on own vanity to attract people. People that are developed have many attractive features, where as you are deepening on the youth of your body and really have nothing else going for you.

[Asker]

The point... literally wasn't about me. Why are you attacking me when the post literally wasn't about me? Dude, seriously. Seek help.

[indissoluble]

Like I said, you have nothing else going for you. You have a bad personality and abusive tendencies. Women that have more to offer are not pressed as hard on their looks as someone like you. When you are a human dumpster in a candy shell, then your candy shell is your selling point.

[HawkPerception]

I'm sorry, but that's absolute nonsense.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/FKyFMnXkXWYhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/THf71Cg_mgE

[Asker]

FreshAndFit? Really?

[HawkPerception]

Is what he said wrong there? I don't agree with everything he says. He's definitely on the extremist side of things, but with this particular take, he was bang on. Are you going to dismiss every one of his opinions just because you don't like him?

[aaron13547]

I dont have an answer to your question... but I do have a very good female friend who married the prom king years after we graduated. He looks great physically and on paper, but she calls me to complain all the time because he basically cares about himself more then he ever will her or their kids.

Looks can be deceiving.

[Asker]

Thats definitly true. I am sorry you have to bear the burden of the drama. Feels familiar, so I absolutely get you.

[MrChinaski]

Women impose stronger beauty standards on women than men impose on them, on average. https://bonytobombshell.com/ideal-female-body-according-to-men/

Seriously.

It isn't men frequenting beauty websites or endless tiktok scrolls.

Most men like only light makeup, yet $50 billion of makeup is bought each year.

Shaved, waxed, lasered: Most of us don't care. (Okay, I prefer some degree of manicuring, but those extremes are not required).

And don't even get me started on stockings, push-up bras...

If it makes you feel good about yourself to do these things, go for it. If it makes you feel bad, don't buy into it.

It's not mainly men imposing this nonsense.

[MrChinaski]

*like

[whosnumber_1]

Agreed. Lip fillers, $1000 at the salon all this stuff is not necessary. Simple makeup.

Most important thing for me would be take care of yourself, go to the gym and be healthy. I'd prefer some braids over a $1000 hairdo any day.

[MrChinaski]

@whosnumber_1 Yes. Nothing is sexier than good health.

[Asker]

Sadly this does not match my experience, cuz more men bullied me for my looks then women. Women just didn't bother with me cuz I was no competition, I admit. But men more often then not called me a try hard, boy disguised as a girl merely because I am flat and because I do not wear make up, even despite taking care of myself. So there is that. Most men definitly have prefferences. Men are humans too, and humans are visually stimulated. Maybe men don't care for xy, but thats usually because the woman is already conventionally attractive. If she is not, they will definitly be awful. Every ugly woman can sadly nod their heads to this.

[MrChinaski]

Well if you have been surrounded by guys that are a-holes, I am sorry for you. I don't believe that is the norm.

[Asker]

Asshole or not, if men were truelly more forgiving with looks, they would not have bullied me literally everywhere I went in every school, just to watch them be nicer to more attractive women. Dunno. Sadly thats what I know.

[OneViewpoint]

LOL, no man can talk about women being shallow. Yes, we judge women largely on appearance a lot of the time. At least initially.

[Asker]

Thanks for the honesty, at least a few can admit that.

[OneViewpoint]

I mean as far as initial attraction goes, there really isn't much to go on other than looks. Maybe her smile. Maybe the way she is interacting with other people. But mostly all we have are visual cues at the beginning. That goes for men and women.

[MrOracle]

1. Men are FAR more accepting of a wide range of physical features than most modern women are.

2. Women don't just want beauty standards, they also want age, education, careers, income, status, attention, priority, and on and on and on. When you ask a woman what she wants in a man, many start with "I just want..." and then proceed to list 20 things - and they only stop there because they become aware that they have a whole laundry list of requirements.

3. Nearly all of the things men want from women are things within the woman's control. Requiring things like height or "a full head of hair" are completely outside of a man's control.

[Asker]

A little bit of insight of my life: I am an unattractive woman, at least by men's standarts because I have an avarage face, barely any tits and I am short. Surprisingly as "forgiving" as guys online seem to tell me to be about looks have proven to me quite the opposite. Got bullied for my looks and never chosen (hell I am not even overweight, I am slim) so I abandoned dating all together. So... yeah, no men are not. They are humans too, and humans are visually stimulated. Especially men. So... Yeah.

[Nikki1989]

Men think that by just being male they have the right to control everything.

[Shy_Steve]

So your saying Women don’t pose any standard on Men?

Height, confidence, income, status, social skills, experience, ambition, body type, these are all standards women openly expect, and most men get filtered out by them before anything even starts.

The difference isn’t that men impose standards and women don’t, it’s that men’s standards are judged as shallow, while women’s standards are framed as preferences or what they deserve.

Your example actually proves the opposite of what you’re saying. Men say what they want and get called unrealistic or toxic. Women say what they want and it’s accepted, but men aren’t allowed to push back.

So it’s not that women can’t impose standards, they do it just as much, if not more. It’s that only one side gets socially protected from criticism.

[Asker]

You didn't read my post and it shows. I won't even bother to explain it again, cuz y'all guys wanna say whatever you want at this point. Learn to read, learn to interpret a text, buy glasses and then maybe people will concider your argument. Till then you are just wasting water for each comment you write.

[Shy_Steve]

You’re missing your own contradiction.

You say men impose standards and women can’t, yet your own example shows a woman clearly stating height and looks requirements. That is a standard.

The real issue isn’t who has standards, both do. It’s how they’re judged. When men say “90-60-90,” it’s called shallow. When women say “5'8–6 foot with a nice face,” it’s called a preference.

So it’s not that women can’t impose standards, they already do. You’re just labeling one side negatively and excusing the other.

[Pohjolan]

Its handsome and height standards with men. Also nowadays all a woman has to do to meet current beauty standards is take care of her teeth, basic hygiene, not stuff herself with junk food daily and do some sport twice a week.

A pretty low bar really.

[Anonymous]

how often do you see 25 yr old women dating 40 yr old men? almost never. go take a look on the streets.

its just that old men pick the internet to be a place so they can spread their lies and be in denial.

[ohsheeT]

I think your talking to the wrong type of man or someone that is calling himself a man because if a man truly likes him self he can find beauty in everyone and it starts on the inside not the out side of a person

[ABC1x1x]

Power. The world revolves around men and their needs. Your question proves it.

[Asker]

Thank you for the honesty.

[LiamJHayden]

Unless you live in an Islamic Republic or some other totalitarian nation, no one can impose such standards upon you. You might feel societal pressure to conform, but that is not the same thing.

[AviatorTom]

Beauty standards on women are mostly set by women on themselves.

I know that I am far from alone, as a guy, in preferring a natural look on a woman.

[Anonymous]

This is the hypocrisy of damned patriarchal system.

[Asker]

Hypocrisisy seems about right...

[integrale77]

Are you saying women not dating any guy who pays interest in her because he doesn't meet her standards isn't the same?

[Asker]

No? I am saying that by now every guy she has met and spoke to has had a list of requierments about women how to look like, otherwise they are unwomanly. Those guys even made degrading comments about those type of women, meanwhile she just stated her prefference everytime like: "Thats fine. I preffer men over 5'8 feet too with thick hair too on their heads cuz I am on similar height anyways and have thick hair too" and those men did not take it well. Many of them did not meet her standarts either, while a small fraction that met hers still raged over it that its shallow. When she... literally stated prefferences that she is meeting herself and even more because she is the universal beauty standart to men. Curvy, pretty, nice voice and hair.

[Iron_Man]

Because we are the chosen ones, of pure beauty and like a fine wine we get better as we age. But unfortunately, for you, girls men need to have a beautiful woman by their hip side you know how the world works

[Asker]

How do men age like fine wine if majority lose hair in their early 20s and get wrinkled early with beer bellies? Respectfully, I rarely met a guy above 20 that looked like fine wine. Not trying to offend anyone. Its just what I observed. On top of that, men rarely take care of themselfs, so that doesn't really help them.

[Iron_Man]

Stop trolling you know that’s not true maybe the balding part but they make up for it in other ways. Anybody can have a stomach depends how much you exercise. As far as the balding it’s because of a lot of testosterone.

[Bricealan]

You can't demand qualities in someone else that you don't possess yourself. That sword cuts both ways.

[Asker]

That was literally the point of my post. Why do so many dudes seem to have an issue reading it?

[Bricealan]

Well, my guess is that they don't want to accept that fact of life. Men are basically ego driven and just don't want to look in the same mirror as every woman looks into. I don't think women are as blind as men in that regard. For whatever reason, many very plain men feel that they should be able to attract a very attractive women, simply because they are men, and I see that attitude expressed many times. I don't think women feel that way.

[Asker]

I see. Thank you so much for your honest answer, I really appriciate it.

[Bricealan]

Thanks. My opinion only for what it's worth.

[Anonymous]

Oh this is comical.

Lady beauty standards aren't imposed by men. They are imposed by women and women owned beauty mags.

Most men's only standard are that she not be obese and practice good hygiene, and have a personality.

Stop playing the victim.

[Asker]

Weird, till now 4 men have confirmed my post at least truthfully that yes, men care largely about looks more then women. But whatever makes you sleep at night. I am not overweight myself, I take care of myself. My personality is more shy and introverted then intrusive and I still got bullied by men for being build like a little boy out of the lack of bust. Plus on face I am avarage too. So there is that. Men are humans too, and humans have prefferences, because we are visually stimulated species. Beauty pagans are also literally controlled by men, wealthy men at that. So I don't know what to tell you.

[Opinion Owner]

Bullies suck. And as one introvert to another, I get it.

Most men I have known I've had similar preferences to mine.

[Asker]

Thank you. I really appriciate the honesty.

[Opinion Owner]

Welcome!

[blackeagle007]

How many men came up to you and told you how to look?

How many women came up to you and told you how to look?

Come on, just today what’s happened?

[Asker]

Since the question was aimed at me personally. I am sadly a victim of bullying, that has caused me years of bdd that even to this day I struggle with. Mainly because men bullied me for my face and for being flat chested. I got often told that I look like a little boy, gay or p3d0 bait, underdeveloped or a guy in disguise. While some girls tried to help me, some girls didn't even know how to help me. So yeah. Men did not tell me directly how I should look like, but they did tell me how I should not. Otherwise I am not a real woman.

[Smegskull]

They can and do.
They probably don't need to, because a man's beauty doesn't really help a woman, it's a luxury standard.

Generally, people need standards for things valuable to them.

[Asker]

A man's looks can definitly help her. Help her get wet. Yup, women are visual too. Shocking, I know.

[Smegskull]

Not shocking. Irrelevant.
Arousal is an excellent example of a luxury standard in women that isn't a luxury standard in men though, thank you.

[Asker]

So women's biological response to mate selection and pleasure is irrelevant to you, as long as you get your dick at least wet? That sounds gay, no offense. A straight guy would care for a woman's pleasure. Gay men? No.

[Smegskull]

I don't care about getting my dick wet. I care about producing offspring.
A woman does not require arousal to reproduce, she does require safety and resources.
You can have whatever standards you like. You just need to recognise which ones are a luxury of peace and prosperity (thank your closest man for that), and which ones are essential to survival and reproduction (thank god for that).

[NathanDavis]

douchebags and men are not the same thing...

[Asker]

Then too many guys are douchebags. No offense but you cannot meet so many men from equally "humble" and more asservative chategories who do the same thing.

[NathanDavis]

on that I agree... a lot of men are douchebags and they sure like to make themselves more present

[Asker]

Sadly, yeah...

[beefcakebradybatson]

Women impose financial standards on men, though many lasses do prefer tall, dark (but not black), handsome lads.

[Asker]

Finencial standarts? I believe that was a standart made by the upperclass men too because they decided wealth means power and wealth for men means power over women finencially. More so women work too nowourdays. Nobody is expecting you to be a billionair. Just to work so if you wanna have a family to support that with her. How does this even corelate to my point? Dude... no need to get your panties in a twist.

[Bbblittle]

And yet upper classmen are the ultimate deciders on which woman they keep. Never the other way around.

[beefcakebradybatson]

I don't wear panties, I go commando, and how many hot birds are with poor lads?

[Asker]

@Bbblittle So my point is right? Thanks for proving it.

[oldman26]

Double standards in many areas when it comes to men and women

[Summeroflove]

Really? Women have standards too for men. Not all men do this and neither do all women. It goes both ways. Be 6 foot tall….. have abs and money. Yada yada. Not even saying it’s bad to be attracted to certain people but.

[Asker]

That was literally one of my points. Please read my post troughly next time.

[Summeroflove]

Asker, let me just be blunt about it. Let those women be unreasonable because they’re not wasting a decent man’s time being single. Unfortunately, many people end up “settling” and wasting someone times in the end but that’s another story.

[Vegasrunner]

Its because beauty is the only thing that matters to men when it comes to women.

[Asker]

Noticed. Thanks for the honesty though.

[Vegasrunner]

@asker No worries

[Bbblittle]

Because quite frankly women don't truly have anything else going for them. So men a lot of times have to turn to looks only

[Asker]

Thanks for proving my point again

[Bbblittle]

Yeah no problem. Because I mean what else y'all got?

[Sal_Monella]

Women always do that and more stringent than men do

[Asker]

How come? Its literally the same thing? Except for my friend it was a realistic expectation because she was on the same height as her prefferences, she is 5'9 foot and conventionally attractive. I think its fair for her to want a guy between 5'8 - 6 foot without looking like a child. But the guys still raged at her.

[Bklynbadboy12]

This isn't true women impose beauty standards on themselves. Most of the nonsense women think is beautiful men dont even like

[Asker]

Uff, goodluck with that explaining it to all the men who disaprove your comment.

[Anonymous]

Actually women impose more standards on men.
But afraid to admit.
We live in a delusional state, even me 😂😂😂

[msc545]

Because for the most part, women live on their looks and men live on their wits.

[Anonymous]

Men like boobs and butt. Dont mind everything else.

[Asker]

Women also like certain things about men. But somehow men have a harder time to accept that.

[Opinion Owner]

what do you like that men cannot accept?

[Asker]

Me personally? I do not date. Lost interest quite some time ago because I was never really popular amongs boys and men. No matter how they looked or how much I was even willing to date down. So my sexuality also went kinda out the window.

But my peers repeatedly share that they like taller guys then them (they are mostly avarage to tall height unlike me, so 5'5 to 5'9 foot) with smaller waist ratio and wider shoulders, plus a proportioned jawline and good amount of hair on the head is what gets them going. Veins, volume in chest, posture plus a shapey bum etc. Its kinda exhausting listening to all the sextalk but yeah. These are pretty popular traits I have to listen to during "girl talks". Plus a hot voice. So many men, when these opinions get voiced, or when oftentimes do not meet even one of these prefferences, get defensive and even angry at it. Even though they would have gotten a chance from them. Mind you that all of my friends are conventionally attractive, in shape, pretty, clean, youthful looking, pretty face and body. So their prefferences are kinda justified. But even then the guys get angry.

[Anonymous]

Fake pink alert.

[Asker]

What does that mean?

[Jeff51]

Women want handsome men. So they do.

[foxsquirrell]

Who put this in your head?

[Asker]

Experience sadly as I said

[foxsquirrell]

I think you are wrong.

[Asker]

Wow, didn't know we shared the same body. But sure. Lets believe your assumptions about me over my own experience. Very stable idea.

[foxsquirrell]

Your experiences are one thing. Drawing a general conclusion from your experiences is another. And that is where you are wrong. Put this in your head too. lol

[Asker]

You are dismissive. The pattern is repeated. And this is a very common behaviour online too. By devaluing that, you are not better then those people who belittle others. You are just putting the blame on people who are the target. Get that trough your skull.

[foxsquirrell]

I am not trying to belittle you. It is not the case. I tried to explain something, but you take it as an attack on you.

[Asker]

You didn't explain anything. You only said that my experiences are wrong, along all the other women's I mentioned in my post. Only when I called you out did you go to "explain it". And your explaination was to tell me not to draw a conclusion of a REPEATED PATTERN ever since I grew up and went from school to work, and not to draw from online forums a conclusion too where people in general say things they believe deeply because the anonymity allowes them to. Thats surely not dismissiv.

[foxsquirrell]

I guess I will live it here.

[Asker]

*leave.

[foxsquirrell]

Yes I think I have some dyslexia. You did not need to correct me to try and make some statement.

[Zionne]

yes it should