Since I am a woman I am writing from the female perspective to other women. I am holding women accountable with this article. If you fail to see that, then you came to this article with an opinion on it already formulated in your mind. These issues have been addressed at least three times before. I'd appreciate it if people would take the time to also read the comments before commenting themselves. Thank you.
I don't recall once saying that ALL men should be treated as if their intentions are bad. In fact, I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt until they have proven themselves otherwise distrustful. As I've said to many other comments and in my article: "Give the nice ones a chance to be your friend and shut the bad ones down." This goes for men and women. We all need to set appropriate boundaries and have reasonable expectations of people. Men aren't the only ones who creep; however,
Actually - this article merely requires that women take responsibility for the hand they have in nurturing and facilitating creepy behavior. Thank you for adding your own spin on it. I never once outlined what I considered a creep in extensive detail in this article. Being a creep is more than just being socially awkward. It is about crossing inappropriate boundaries (that women need to put up - it's not the mans fault if she doesn't place them) and unyielding borderline stalking behavior.
There is a definite paranoia issue among many girls today in our society....this article further exhibits the fact that girls' should read into everything....and take a respectful kind gesture from a guy...OH Crap, he's being nice to me.....he must want to use me and get in my pants. Ehhhh see this article meant well....but you see it's very biased. All guys are being crucified by this article and its a radical generalization. Thank you feminism
I've seen that palek has gained some fans who aren't very fond of him and that in itself isn't good. I'm not labeling him as anything, it's just distasteful for anyone to say such a thing about anyone here when we, at least most of us-have never met each other face to face. I myself have gotten such cold shoulders before that I think along the lines of, 'Oh, gee, I must be one of those guys'. Somehow, I don't think so-and it's discomforting to say the least.
Like all girls, you consider any guy who gives you sexual attention that you don't want a "creep".
Tragically, guys cannot read minds, and we don't know our attention is unwanted until you have already labelled us, told your friends, and maybe sicced your older brother on us.
Finally, they either withdraw into themselves, or become their label. How would you react if you were made to feel dirty and wrong whenever you expressed attraction toward another person? This, combined with the current "all men are evil/all men are rapists" feminist chant, is the root of a lot of unhappiness for both sexes. Not saying you shouldn't be careful or there aren't genuine wackos out there, but just keep an open mind and don't judge too fast. :)
From what I've seen, girls tend to judge guys on looks, but because saying that is shallow, they'll say he was 'creepy'. If a cute, hot-looking guy had done exactly the same thing he would have probably been seen as fun and flirty instead. So guys who don't have movie-star looks or a ton of social experience will sometimes find themselves put in this category, repeatedly, just for expressing interest and attention towards a woman.
"This obviously is an article that is emotionally charged for some men." - That's probably because many men have had negative experiences being labeled "creeps", "weirdos", "losers" etc, when they were just shy or socially inexperienced, or the girl in question simply didn't find them attractive. Personally I think terms like this are thrown around far too easily, and girls will often label a guy a "creep" just because he's not attractive, regardless of his motives or approach.
Well seeing as the author is no longer a member, does anybody else care to discuss what caused the rise of the "creepy guy" term? Feminism? Pop culture? Media?
You make even me sound like a creeper. I don't want to hurt people but I do try to open them in that same way. It has helped me help others as well as myself through connecting with people.
So what are the odds you will give a chance to a guy who is polite to you (or any girl for that matter) on the internet and who does not say rude, suggestive, or offensive things?
I agree with you Ian_B - I definitely think it is emotionally charged for a reason. I am wondering how often guys are mislabeled and what exactly this labeling does to them.
Palek? A creeper? Nah. Funny, though. It seems I've been labeled one myself. Huh. Imagine that. Or at least, that's what I presume I'm being labeled as. Oh well. Life goes on.
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Since I am a woman I am writing from the female perspective to other women. I am holding women accountable with this article. If you fail to see that, then you came to this article with an opinion on it already formulated in your mind. These issues have been addressed at least three times before. I'd appreciate it if people would take the time to also read the comments before commenting themselves. Thank you.
I don't recall once saying that ALL men should be treated as if their intentions are bad. In fact, I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt until they have proven themselves otherwise distrustful. As I've said to many other comments and in my article: "Give the nice ones a chance to be your friend and shut the bad ones down." This goes for men and women. We all need to set appropriate boundaries and have reasonable expectations of people. Men aren't the only ones who creep; however,
Actually - this article merely requires that women take responsibility for the hand they have in nurturing and facilitating creepy behavior. Thank you for adding your own spin on it. I never once outlined what I considered a creep in extensive detail in this article. Being a creep is more than just being socially awkward. It is about crossing inappropriate boundaries (that women need to put up - it's not the mans fault if she doesn't place them) and unyielding borderline stalking behavior.
There is a definite paranoia issue among many girls today in our society....this article further exhibits the fact that girls' should read into everything....and take a respectful kind gesture from a guy...OH Crap, he's being nice to me.....he must want to use me and get in my pants. Ehhhh see this article meant well....but you see it's very biased. All guys are being crucified by this article and its a radical generalization. Thank you feminism
I've seen that palek has gained some fans who aren't very fond of him and that in itself isn't good. I'm not labeling him as anything, it's just distasteful for anyone to say such a thing about anyone here when we, at least most of us-have never met each other face to face. I myself have gotten such cold shoulders before that I think along the lines of, 'Oh, gee, I must be one of those guys'. Somehow, I don't think so-and it's discomforting to say the least.
Like all girls, you consider any guy who gives you sexual attention that you don't want a "creep".
Tragically, guys cannot read minds, and we don't know our attention is unwanted until you have already labelled us, told your friends, and maybe sicced your older brother on us.
Finally, they either withdraw into themselves, or become their label. How would you react if you were made to feel dirty and wrong whenever you expressed attraction toward another person? This, combined with the current "all men are evil/all men are rapists" feminist chant, is the root of a lot of unhappiness for both sexes. Not saying you shouldn't be careful or there aren't genuine wackos out there, but just keep an open mind and don't judge too fast. :)
From what I've seen, girls tend to judge guys on looks, but because saying that is shallow, they'll say he was 'creepy'. If a cute, hot-looking guy had done exactly the same thing he would have probably been seen as fun and flirty instead. So guys who don't have movie-star looks or a ton of social experience will sometimes find themselves put in this category, repeatedly, just for expressing interest and attention towards a woman.
"This obviously is an article that is emotionally charged for some men." - That's probably because many men have had negative experiences being labeled "creeps", "weirdos", "losers" etc, when they were just shy or socially inexperienced, or the girl in question simply didn't find them attractive. Personally I think terms like this are thrown around far too easily, and girls will often label a guy a "creep" just because he's not attractive, regardless of his motives or approach.
Well seeing as the author is no longer a member, does anybody else care to discuss what caused the rise of the "creepy guy" term? Feminism? Pop culture? Media?
You make even me sound like a creeper. I don't want to hurt people but I do try to open them in that same way. It has helped me help others as well as myself through connecting with people.
So what are the odds you will give a chance to a guy who is polite to you (or any girl for that matter) on the internet and who does not say rude, suggestive, or offensive things?
I agree with you Ian_B - I definitely think it is emotionally charged for a reason. I am wondering how often guys are mislabeled and what exactly this labeling does to them.
I definitely agree on that one. Fortunately they haven't been creeping on me though :]
Maybe we can get these creeps together so they can leave people who are incompatible with them alone lol.
Thing is if you like them back = theyre cool, if you don't like them back = they're a creeper
So it is hard for a guy to know, does he not even try incase he is labeled a creeper?
Palek? A creeper? Nah. Funny, though. It seems I've been labeled one myself. Huh. Imagine that. Or at least, that's what I presume I'm being labeled as. Oh well. Life goes on.
She isn't telling girls anything with this article that their mothers shouldn't have already told them several times growing up.
I flirt with just about every girl, but then again, I don't cling (well, I naturally want to, but I know that gets me...labeled...)
Maybe I'm being dumb, but I can't seem to find what you're defining as a 'creeper'. Care to explain what one is (to you at least)
There are a LOT of really disgusting perverts on the net and in RL. Penaltys are getting stiffer though as in the case of the sex offender registry.