If they like the kind of people that you detest, then you are trying to date the wrong girls and you clearly need to find people who are actually compatible with you.
Most of the time this kind of rant is just some messed up generalization based on the notion that all females behave exactly the same way and think and feel the same way, disregarding the variation in experiences and value systems. Basically, a girl will like you if she appreciates you and finds you attractive. That is how it works from the male perspective as well, last time I checked anyways.
Now, would you like someone is a total tool and makes you feel bad? Probably not.
You're not wanting opinions. You're wanting someone to coddle you by saying you're a great guy, poor you for not having a girlfriend. To be honest, the way you talk in this question, you kind of sound like a dick. "Fat girls don't give me this trouble, wonder why?" I would never say something along those lines.
You are not entitled to having any of those girls you want. They have a choice in the matter too. Let them make their choices, and you can make yours. Would you want a girl who wants to go after assholes anyway? Who cares if you're nice? Who cares if you will fucking compliment the shit out of her? If there is nothing there, THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
not all black girls are dealing with guys who lie cheat and abuse us. most women really aren't, and if we do end up with a guy who turns out to be like that they get dumped quickly. don't generalize all women as chasing after dogs just because that particular woman chooses not to date you. don't make the mistake of thinking if a woman doesn't want you its because she wants an asshole to abuse her. no one is perfect, perhaps there are things about you that turn her off or don't excite her? you admit to be boring and I can't tell you the last time I've ever liked a boring guy. so if you know that's a shortcoming you have, work on that because that is a major shortcoming. being boring is probably worse than being ugly for a guy. like if a guy has nothing to talk about, no life and isn't fun then im not gonna want to be around for long. he probably won't make it past date 2 if I am bored by him.
maybe your not saying anything interesting. when you have a lot of options, you don't waste time hanging out with a guy multiple times if you have no feelings.
instead of talking to a girl about shit she doesn't care about, flirt with her. learn the power of seductive eye contact and body language and make her attractive to you. you might not be ugly but if you aren't sexy in terms of flirting and being sensual then you won't have that spark. sexual attraction and energy can take you far
people base dating choices off of feelings, not logic. well most people do. if a girl doesn't get butterflies or get excited to be around you then she won't give a fuck about you. why would you want to date someone your bored by and have no interest in? for all she knows once you get her and become comfortable with her youd probably cheat to. you can never say "oh this guy would never cheat on me" because shit happens and you don't know what people would do. all she knows is that she isn't interested in you. so if you are not fun and exciting then do your best to become that so you can get the girls you want. don't just say "o well im boring and women need to accept that because at least i won't cheat" lol no they don't and whos to say you wouldn't if another really attractive woman wanted you?
so basically your just friend zoning yourself. if a girl doesn't want to fuck you on a base level, then the odds of her wanting to date you are very low. the problem is you don't understand women and then when a woman does try to give you some advice you argue against it bc it doesn't fit into your preconceived notions on what a woman SHOULD want. the world don't work on shoulds. even if she doesn't have sex with a guy right off the bat she should at least want to. there is nothing wrong with sexual attraction, that's the reason why all of us exist. so if your not going to learn game, or social-sexual skills then don't complain when the guys who do know it get the girls you want. you have all the power to apply the knowledge to get the girls to be interested in you but you refuse to do it, so whos fault is that?
No one said all black girls deal with such guys. But the majority do. People all over YouTube concur with my sentiment. When girls end up with guys like that, they DONT get dumped quickly at all. Not sure what world you're in. It's not just one particular woman. It's many. And I SEE them get with dogs, I don't assume shit. Maybe there are things about me that don't excite her of course, otherwise she'd be with me. But WHAT? She asks for someone like me, and runs after the opposite. Again, it's all over that one should take what a female says with a grain of salt. Even My current girlfriend agrees. how is boredom soooo much worse than cheating, lying, maybe even worse, and knowing he'll never be a husband to you or your kids' father? Only if you loooove drama in your life and don't really care much about your kids/future kids.
But again, girls need to grow up into women before their figures become DISfigured and start making better priorities. Putting fun and excitement of a flame over education, hard work ethic, a plan for life, family orientation, honesty, loyalty, and perseverance isn't exactly the most sound investment for a long lasting bright future especially if you dream of marriage and family or at least dream of not being a washed up old hag in an apartment full of cats. I mean do girls even think "is the little excitement I'm getting with the bad boy now REALLY worth the future detriment?"? besides, 'kinda boring' here still means I still wanna see the world, explore a lot, and I'm into wild sex positions. So don't take 'kinda boring' and go haywire with it.
Everyone KEEPS ASS uming that I only want the young hot bitches. I've been saying over and over that I only want someone who's average looking or above. Hell I am! So how's that unreasonable? If I can look decent and have a good attitude/personality, then why can't decent looking girls? If I can be open minded then why can decent looking girls be?
Your attitude is worse than the Asker's, along with that of all the other females posting opinions here. I'm honestly quite disgusted at your gender, because of the way they all attack a guy like this when he's already feeling down, like a pack of damn rabid hyenas. You should be ashamed.
@ jointhe it's so interesting how the most ignorant and off base users never post their own opinion but they sure know how to uninvitedly jump into other users pinions and spread their yapper and ignorance. That would be you. Have confidence to post your own opinions and back it up. That's right, you can do it!! Now be gone along with your nonsense!!
She's right. Referring to women as young hot bitches says enough about his attitude towards women.
But jointhepatriarchy I've seen more of your comments, you just hate women and think of them as inferior. You're name says more than enough as well. I bet you're an American (USA) lol..
@jointhepatriarchy THAAAAANNNKKK YOOOOUUUU!!! jointhepatriarchy gets it!! I call them bitches because they ARE bitches!! I've always been that gentleman who got done like shit so that some bitch can go be with an asshole who dogs her ass out. Then she's played, left single parent, etc. and wants to blame men in general for this. Finally, she gives the used goods that aren't goods anymore to the nice, deserving good guy. HOW THA HELL IS THIS NOT A STUPID BITCH IN YOUR BOOKS?
I wanted to update my question more but I couldn't (dumb ass regulations on here). You see, the problem with almost all of you is that you DON'T KNOW ME!! I'm ranting here for pete's sake!! OF COURSE I don't talk like this towards potential dating partners. I'm nice to them! I'm a great guy! I'm just pissed at females right now. So all this "I can see why now/you're a douche/dick/asshole/etc" bullshit needs to cease! Why would you say all this to a good guy who's down and out on his luck? I'm trying to find helpful structural criticism and instead I'm getting ripped apart with insults and condescending. How the Fuck is that supposed to help ANYBODY?
@MsFZB6 I'm sure the bad boys these hot young bitches love so much would think of them with soooo much more respect. Again, the asker would NOT say this on dates directly to girls. This is a RANT. A RANT people! Girls turn him down even without him using the phrase "young hot bitches". The bad ones actually treat girls as this phrase suggests; good guys dont. Good guys actually want to commit and be loyal. Somehow, this is perceived as bad. Hence the fucked up world we live in!
Yes, it would be cheaper to higher a prostitute. These hot girls who turn you down now will want you later when they are used up. However, when you make more money, you can go for the 18-22 year old girls. Women like men for power, money, and status. If you have those, you can get any women you want. Hot women want bad boys because they are fun and confident and have good looking bodies. You need to go for older women who may have a few mileage on them, but they can still show you a good time.
I honestly disagree with your logic. This is because most people in this country will not become rich & be able to attract gold diggers, which are the women you are telling him to go after. For the rest of the world who isn't rich, which is like 98% of us, we go for someone who is generally in our league. This has nothing to do with being used up & expecting to get a rich guy when you're older, it's about men & women trying to find someone they are attracted to.
I DEFINITELY agree with this. This is my logic exactly! And going after the young hot bitches when I make enough money is what I'm gonna do!!! FINALLY, someone with some damn sense on here!
to matrix124: Yes, and what women and men are attracted to is usually looks and money. And no one said you have to be a damn multimillionaire or billionaire to score with hot girls. I don't even think anyone mentioned "rich". This is the 2% YOU'RE talking about, but NerdInDenial and I are speaking of being financially stable, such as a lawyer, account, or doctor may be. I'm going to be a doctor. 6 figures is enough. If "women" were attracted to a good personality/good attitude/gentleman, I wouldn't be on here ranting now. I don't like that "out/in a league" bullshit. Why would someone be out of my league, or your league, or anybody's league? We're all fucking human aren't we? All of our shits smell bad don't they?
@matrix124, how do you define rich? I'm not saying you have to be a millionaire to attract gold diggers. People making $80,000 and more can get hot women. There is a correlation between attractiveness of women and income a man has. The more income a man has the better quality he can afford. More importantly, most women want a man who makes more money. Ugly women have to get a good job and career. If you need proof, look at the Forbes list of successful women. Most of them are ugly. The reason why women settle down with nice guys because they are used up and no longer able to get free stuff.
I couldn't care less about money. 1) I'd be happy living in a trailer for the rest of my life, 2) rich people often feel entitled, like you saying you want a 18-22 year old girl even though you would be 10+ years old. I've read only 5% of men make 6 figures, if you want to be in this 5%, you are have all the right in the world to try. As for being "used up," which I find a very sexist & degrading thing to say, I'm personally saving myself for my husband. Personality & looks matter to me, but I believe in going for someone who is in the same league as me, as I think that is realistic.
"If "women" were attracted to a good personality... I wouldn't be on here ranting now. I don't like that "out/in a league" bullshit." You want "YOUNG HOT BITCHES," yet expect women to only care about personality. If you don't realize how hypocritical you sound, there is nothing more I can say.
And don't get us wrong matrix124, we're not talking about you. We're talking about females in general. We calling them used up ISN'T sexist; it's the truth. I've told you, I'm gonna be a doctor. Don't doctors make 6 figs? You don't have to answer that question cause I know the answer. And I don't feel entitled and I'm pretty sure I won't. I'm just saying I'll FINALLY be able to get what I want when I'm making good money. Again, what is this "league" bull crap? Are you some sort of separatist? You believe everyone should be divided into "leagues"? A house divided shall not stand. I said I want AT LEAST AVERAGE looking girls, and I'm only 26. So how is my desire unreasonable? I'm not ugly myself. But what I said is true there. How am I being a hypocrite? Did I ever say looks don't matter to me?
oh and I don't care about JUST looks. NEVER did I say that. I'm just saying there seems to be a STRONG ass direct correlation b/w girls' looks and my failure to get dates with them
Wow, You seem familiar. Look, if you think "fat girls want to be with you simply because they're settling and desperate," then that says to me that you think of yourself as a consolation prize. If that's your attitude, even a little, people will pick up on it. You need to get that out of your head. And don't discount the "fat chicks." If you give them some time you may actually see some other qualities. Trust me, they do have them.
You're really putting those redeeming qualities of yours on display here, aren't you? 👈😉 I'll tell you what; You put a little more effort into not alienating everyone that talks to you, and I bet you'll see a change in how women treat you. How does that sound?
I suspect @WillTreyZongs = @Breman. I can't believe anyone else would willingly wade through this mess commenting on every opinion that disagrees with the asker. @mods?
Hey listen, i know how you feel cause i have gone my entire life unloved by women. and yes i too have noticed that the majority of young girls go out with absolute wankers. their words not mine. but they will reach a point where they want to settle down. you know people used to say that girls mature before guys, but i think thats been reversed. i think there are more genuine young guys out there than genuine young girls. im not a player or a man slut or whatever. i have never even kissed a girl in my entire life, but i must not generalise women. you shouldn't either. becoming bitter is only natural, but the minute you accept that is the minute you accept that you won't find a woman to be with. guys like us just need to wait. i know it sucks, but we must be patient. good things come to those who wait.
Damn. Don't know what girls you're talking to, haha. I admit, girls can be terrible at times. But not all of us are bitches. Maybe try looking for love in different/new places? Or maybe try not looking at all! I once just gave up on guys for a while, and them BAM, I met this awesome guy, haha. We aren't together anymore but I still think he's cool. It also let me know there are still good guys out there! So don't discard all women just yet; keep your head up and you'll be good. Have some fun, lol! Just keep a look out for the good ones. :)
If you only got girls because you started getting good money then they weren't worth it. All you have to do is be yourself, not some pretend perfect guy. and seriously what is up with the young hot chicks- you just mean girls your age who are pretty. - if all you want is an average girl, don't, you deserve better than just some average chick. In order to find the Perfect person for you, you have to be yourself and see through other peoples motives. Do Not become the stupid guy who gets girls pregnant and plays them- it is not worth it.
I'm just saying don't play people because your actions can destroy them, 2- since I don't actually know him I am sorry that I assumed he wasn't being himself. People who settle for average ( pretty but not beautiful, not tall but not short, not fat but not skinny) usually are putting themselves down. most guys who think they are average looking are only average looking in their eyes, in someone else's eyes they could be perfect. "better then average"- who you define is more pretty then just the girl down the street.- it kind of depends on the person. But I guess if you would want to settle for "average" go right on ahead.
- there is nothing extraordinary about that person- average looks average hair average laugh average smile... wouldn't you want something better then just a plain person. you want someone you think is special. - at least that's what I think.
Wow this is a really long post. To be blunt you sound like some guy who's given up on love because you haven't found it yet. Maybe women just don't find you attractive. Maybe it's your personality or maybe it's your looks. I don't know. There's something about you that the women you're attracted to don't find attractive. Have you ever approached any of these women you find attractive? Do you have confidence? How's a woman supposed to know that you're this nice, amazing, gentleman that you say you are if you don't go up and introduce yourself. By the way I know everybody has already mentioned this but big girls are beautiful too.
I get they don't find me attractive. The question is why. I'm not bad looking (5'10", 18% body fat, workout often, bald, mixed race) IMO. Everyone says I'm a handsome guy. Have I approached them? Of course! How would I be able to bring this up or debate this if I didn't? I have GREAT confidence. Who told you I didn't introduce myself/try to talk to her? Again, this is why I'm ranting in the first place, b/c I've done this and got rejected. I've tried big girls, and I couldn't perform in bed with them. This is why, instead of disappointing them and me as well as waste our time anymore, I've chosen to stop dating them altogether.
Also, sweetheart, when someone rants, they're pissed. Just a little tip there. Now if I'm pissed, am I gonna sound like I always do? Of course not! Why do I think girls suck? Cause the ones who look worth a shit are assholes to me for no reason. Now the big girls, they're nice. Know why? They're compensating for lack of looks. You and I know good and damn well that if they filled the attractive girl's stilettos instead, they'd be mindless pricks too.
@jointhepatriarchy nowhere on this site does it say that you HAVE to be helpful. :) I don't care that he's fed up with all girls. It's not my problem. I just pointed out that maybe he's not as lovely as he thinks he is.
Is that a reason for all you females to attack them like a pack of hyenas though? Seriously, you females are nothing but vicious whenever some frustrated guy posts a rant like this. It doesn't help your gender at all, just makes you look like a bunch of heartless bitches.
@jointhepatriarchy how the fuck am I supposed to sympathize with a guy who more or less gets offended when only overweight girls pay attention to him? How the fuck am I going to sympathize with a guy who thinks that he can basically "buy" all the hot chicks he wants once he becomes "rich and successful"? He basically admitted that he likes hot and shallow girls, and then wonders why they don't want him. Gee, wonder why? Maybe because they're shallow? I don't sympathize with stupidity.
@jointhepatriarchy no, I've actually never dated anyone. But I wouldn't sit here and act all offended if an overweight guy told me that he wanted to date me. Neither would I sit here and say that nobody would ever want to date an overweight person, since that's obviously not true.
@jointhepatriarchy I initiate conversations, ask him if he can hang out, tell him I like him etc. I baked a cake to a guy I liked once, too. Basic stuff like that. Not sure how this is relevant, though.
Wait you look like that AND you bake cakes for people? I'm actually kinda shocked, that you've never had a bf. Unless of course they like pies, that could be your problem. Also I found this conversation hilarious simply because jointhepatriarchy went from calling you an "sarcastic antagonistic bitch" to being all friendly and sympathizing with your relationship struggles. Lol
@jointhepatriarchy I agree with @rocksongwriter you two should get married. you're a condescending dick and according to you she's a sarcastic bitch. Plus considering the fact that you're both inexperienced, this could be a match made in heaven. Think about it, 10 years from now you could be telling your kids how you met their mother on gag. This could be a cheesy romance novel.
@jointhepatriarchy Aw don't say that. Don't let her be the one that got away. If you don't like the way your kids are going to turn out, you could just adopt. Also don't forget, she will bake delicious cakes for you. Now if that doesn't sound like happily ever after then I don't know what does. Marry Her!
@lumos don't be soo mean. If you've been reading our conversation, you'd realize that you and patriarchy are perfect for each other. He will actually appreciate your cakes unlike those shallow inconsiderate bastards in Finland. Marry him
@lumos Alright I'll go away, but it's a shame to know there won't be a lucky guy that gets to enjoy your chocolate cakes. Also in my honest opinion, you and patriarchy would have made such a cute couple. So sad things didn't work out for the two of you :(
@jointhepatriarchy @Bandit74 wtf? Mudcake = anal? Who the fuck is that perverted. Also, anal doesn't exactly sound very pleasurable to me. No thank you. You can keep your anal mudcakes and I shall keep my regular actual-cakes-mudcakes.
@jointhepatriarchy That's why you two would have been so good together, she's defensive, and your offensive. You'd balance each other out perfectly. Maybe you two can compromise, you're not into chocolate cake, so maybe she could make you vanilla cake? You two lovebirds might still have a chance :)
this is one hell of a conversation. Right when i thought lumos and jointhepatriarchy couldn't be more polar opposites, things start getting sweet between the two of them. Then bam. back to square one. I am a very confused onlooker
@lumos I've got a serious question for you? Have you been even romotely entertained by this conversation or are you just outright annoyed. The optimist in me hopes that it's the former rather than the latter but the realist in me is saying that you just think we are annoying/immature. Could you put my mind at ease, which is it?
@lumos That breaks my heart to hear that but look on the bright side, because of our conversation you were forced to take a 3 hour nap. So now you are well rested and therefore you are physically/mentally prepared for whatever life throws at you.
@lumos Well you will be even more well rested for tomorrow. With all this extra energy you're going to be able to take the day by the horns and make it your bitch.
@WillTreyZongs and you sound like you've made 10 accounts just to defend yourself. Let it go already, this question is almost a month old... you're literally the only one who still cares.
People don't take serious things seriously anymore. How good men are treated kinda matters. Of course the majority of first world females can't see that. You think the asker actually talks like this on dates? He's obviously ranting! DIFFERENCE!! Looks like you're avoiding the main argument too their honey cakes. He made excellent points about the fat girls. Why is it that fat girls date him and slim ones don't? Girls need to quit asking for good guys when that's not what they really want. Fucking leader ons. Why don't you just take the argument for what the fuck it is instead of trying to call him out for not being as nice as he says he is? Again, avoiding the argument. Why don't you think about wtf he's saying for once? If a girl won't date him for a reason that's one thing. Not dating him for no reason is another. Get it?
@TheFullestThrottle harsh truths? The harsh truth is that you won't get anywhere in life if you generalize people and chase those whose standards you don't meet. If you chase shallow bitches, expect a shallow bitch response if you don't meet her standards. Crying about it on gag and acting as if all women behave this way is petty and childish. He was here whining about how women go for the "wrong men" who are "douchebags" yet he admitted himself to wanting to score with hot and shallow chicks who also happen to be assholes themselves, gold diggers too. THAT'S hypocritical. And if you can't see that, then I can't help you. Being offended at someone wanting to date you is like the epitome of narcissism and shallowness. Stop bugging me on this old ass question already and sit the fuck down.
Vast majority of girls will chase bad boys when they can IS a harsh truth. Who says he's chasing people who's standards he doesn't meet? And if he don't meet their standards, question is what are their standards, and why do they contradict with what they say their standards are? Real women aren't shallow and they aren't ashamed to admit what they really want For what they really want is a good man. A bitch is what he and I are complaining about now. A guy often times won't know if she's shallow until he talks to her. Then he finds out she's a shallow bitch, and you wanna say it's HIS intentions to chase a shallow bitch? He never said this would get him anywhere; he's discussing it (or trying to). I don't know how in the hell people keep getting that connected in their fucking brains. He wants to fuck these shallow bitches to let them know that's all their worth, a fuck, and he's right. And since soooo many females are like that, he doesn't have much choice!
And I see someone has her ass stuck in the air about this question, dismissing it like its a non issue and THEN you have the audacity to command me to do something. Yeah, you sound lovely yourself; surely no real men want anyone with an attitude like that!! If there were good reasons As to why we got turned down, then we wouldn't say shit. But there aren't any. Bottom line, too many of you bimbos chase the wrong guys down for the wrong reasons and dismiss the good guys for horribly shallow reasons (yet you call asker shallow). Then you have the nerve to complain when you're all washed up, fat single mothers cause you can't get anybody. The good man would've still been with ya even at that stage if you would've been with him during ya prime to show that you really love him and not just with him when it's convenient (I. e., when you're not so hot anymore). So what you look like getting with him only when you're washed up?
You only fuck with the bad ones when you're a hot commodity. You come around one day when you're washed up and want a good man then (conveniently). How dare you care so little about a good patient man that you "love" so much when you're washed up that you made him wait while you got fucked and emotionally destroyed by low life niggas? Now the good man is gracious enough to help take care of kids that aren't biologically his. But real women are RARE. So this is why more than likely asker would just have to fuck em and leave em when money makes him more attractive so he can have sex with someone attractive; unfortunately, physical female attractiveness usually doesn't come with a good heart. So she's good to fuck, but ain't shit to marry! So really, asker is NOT a hypocrite but he's rather responding to what he's subjected to.
I always tell people this: There are two versions of me 1. DoucheBag 2. Nice guy
1. Douchebag - doesn't give a s**t, does what he wants, gets into fights, extremely extroverted, very confident, drinks, parties, dances and sings and treats women like shyt.
2. Nice guy - treats women nice, doesn't go out as often, more cautious, respectful.
Guess which one gets cheated on and guess which one get more girls? The nice guy gets cheated on and douchebag has multiple partners and has fun at the sametime. Over the course of my life I've switched about 3 to 4 times and the results are always the same.
@rthomas43 I know it sounds crazy as hell, especially to all those butt hurt females who voted up for your comment here since they found my question offensive regardless of my explanation, but I don't see anybody, especially females (chuckles), being better than I am or too good for me.
It's an awesome world we live in, isn't it? Everything you've said is true, but why not save your money and your dignity? I've been in the same situation so take some satisfaction that they're hurting themselves a lot more than they can ever hurt you. By the time, they realize their mistake, they won't be desirable to the good guys out there anymore and then they'll have to settle for whatever they can get. Honestly, I think being single is way better than being in a relationship.
Great advice! But I can't be celibate for the next 5 1/2 years until I'm a doc, when I can finally get them. This is why I say prostitutes are a good option... in Nevada at least.
Wish people would learn it goes both ways. Guys do the same thing. Nobody's perfect. Just worry about what you can control. Be the best you that you can be, the girl for you will come around eventually.
Oh, ofcourse you're not. Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself of it more than us. Everybody is flawed, even you. So get off your "nice guy" soap box and figure out what's keeping you single and FIX IT!
Uuuhhh... WHAT DO YOU THINK I'M TRYING TO DO HERE? I AM trying to find the problem. I am a good guy (with spine and assertiveness), but I can't find a bad personality flaw. Oh yeah, I'm flawed alright: I may be a bit boring sometimes, but that's nothing! No way that can outweigh all the good things about me. And how is a lying, cheating, child neglecting, verbally/physically abusive, unambitious fuck justified by being interesting and fun? It's hard for me TO be interesting and fun if the girl won't even bother to write back or go out with me anywhere. Face it, females like to pick out the small negativity with good guys and run with it while the pick out the small positivity in bad ones and run with it.
Because genetically women presume YOU HAVE ALREADY KNOWN these stuffs, they don't want to teach men about these stuffs as a general rule we couldn't believe what they're saying at this topic (women are reacting emotionally not words) so stop whining and learn from experiences.
Oh, so now people who are recently from other countries are putting me down now? Can't understand shit you said. Learn from experiences? Ok, this is what I've learned: be a player, don't give a fuck, treat her like shit, and then she'll wanna marry and have kids with your ass. GREAT American lesson to get an American female!
And again, I'm NOT fucking whining! Why does everyone keep saying that shit? I'm just telling my problem and trying to get USEFUL feedback on this situation since I can't get the answer out here in the real world from myself or people around me. That's what healthy people do when they can't find an answer: they TALK TO OTHER people ABOUT IT!! Or as you and so many others call it, THEY WHINE!!! I guess you won't be WHINING to the doctor when your heart is acting up or you have a stroke!
What you have learned (being a complete badass player) doesn't work. Everything should be in moderation. So what u were complaining about: never available (because she don't want to misunderstand the relationship) lead me on (because u're too weak in her eyes) don't respond on dating sites (it's their choices, they are constantly being bombarded by many guys, they want someone who are outstanding especially good looking) don't give me a good reason why they don't want to talk to me anymore (because you turn them off) are always too sick or busy to go out with me anywhere (because they already put you in friend zone)
And EVEN if you don't fuckin whine, what's the point of writing here? THOUGHT OF JOKE WITHOUT TELLING doesn't work! You have to get yourself into the field!
Can't see what my problem is. No one ever told me I had a problem. They'd just say I'm not their type or "it's not you, it's me". I've never been called ugly except by one girl I slept with who got pissed at me one time for something pretty stupid but then again she was bipolar as hell. So no, I'm quite sure it isn't me.
@coaxmetal Can't see what my problem is. No one ever told me I had a problem. They'd just say I'm not their type or "it's not you, it's me". I've never been called ugly except by one girl I slept with who got pissed at me one time for something pretty stupid but then again she was bipolar as hell. So no, I'm quite sure it isn't me.
"Don't get me wrong, I love fat women b/c they're so nice and friendly, but I'm not romantically attracted to them." Just change fat girls to good guys and you have the female equivalent of why they dont give you the time of day. Women will say they want one thing, but just open your eyes and look around you and you'll see their actions showing a completely different reality. It won't produce a long lasting relationship but it will produce the drama women seek. Women want their life to be like a reality tv show/soap opera. Bad boys add thrill and excitement like a roller coaster. Bitches be crazy.
I'm not racist but I generalize based on skin color. I respect and cherish women, but I think they're all horrible. I love fat women and I'm not offensive, but all fat women who try to date are desperate. Man, what a catch you are.
No, you don't understand what I'm saying at all. Let me be the great courageous guy who speaks the 'horrid truth' and be clear: I'm saying you're a self-absorbed, arrogant hypocrite who assumes the Truth reflects perfectly your own limited experience. I'm saying that you're making it very clear you don't respect nor cherish women, and that saying you're not offensive doesn't at all make you inoffensive. You're generalizing women, black women, fat women. Everything you wrote makes you palpably unlikable. It's a whiny, antagonizing, misogynistic, unattractive rant. No self-respecting woman would date you, and it's not because of some imaginary, convenient stereotype. It's because of you.
I feel sorry for the chubby girls, having to date n obvious ugly-duckling like you. I'd the fit girls don't want you it's because they think they are out of your league, the chubby girls are settling for you and you're settling for them...
Ha! What a lovely, mature response you've given. I'm assuming you aren't that physically attractive (at least not as attractive as you think you are) because you are getting zero responses online and that medium is all about looks. If you really were in the same league as the women you're pursuing then what else could be putting them off? Perhaps your charming personality? You seem to be basing your relationships purely on looks, if this is the case then no wonder they aren't working out. You have implied your settling for chubby girls because you refer to them in a derogatory manner and say that what you really want is a proper hottie.
Oh no, I'm just called attractive, handsome, sexy, cute a lot for no fucking reason, I'm sure. And look who's talking about mature responses... Who said I was getting 0 responses online? AGAIN, ASS uming. STOP THAT!! What's putting them off? THEY'RE SHALLOW AS HELL!!! They're stuck up, and they think just because I'm only 5'10", yet they're just 5'7" themselves, and b/c they're accountants and I'm a med student not making any money yet that they're too good for me, or as you put it, "out of my league". Me saying that no one is out of my league is saying I HAVE CONFIDENCE!!!
Why couldn't you have come at me with a more tactful response? You gave me an asshole response first, so I came at you with one myself. Fair. I don't just care about looks; a girl could be hot as fuck, but if she's a bitch, then fuck her. All I'd do is bang and leave if given the opportunity. She's not worth anything else. I've tried getting with the nice, sweet big girls, but "it wouldn't work". I want someone who's just AVERAGE looking or above since I myself am AVERAGE looking or above; I know that may not make any sense to you, but wtf ever. I only told the truth about fat girls. They are fat, and no one else wants them. This is obvious common sense.
"Why is it that the attractive girls (this means slim, pretty, nice curves, soft skin, pretty hair... heck they can even be just average looking) are never available, lead me on, don't respond on dating sites, don't give me a good reason why they don't want to talk to me anymore, are always too sick or busy to go out with me anywhere" That's why I assume you're getting nowhere, because YOU told me! And the reason a responded as I did is because your sucky question was phrased like a true asshole, I'll tell you now: it's not them, it's you. You come across as an absolute dick and I'm not surprised people won't date you. And don't tell me you don't care about looks, that's what your whole post is about, or is it just fat? Your attitude stinks and girls can smell it a mile off.
This is just what they do generally speaking. Yes I’ve gotten a few and far in b/w responses…ONLINE. Now did these girls who responded to me KEEP responding, or did they CONTINUE to text me back? NO. My question ISN’T sucky! You’re just butt hurt about me telling the damn dirty truth! Excuuuuse the hell out of me for being a gentleman, being nice, courteous, respectful, loyal, and honest. Oh yeah, I’m a true asshole!! I have a few female friends who would tell you right away that I’m a GREAT GUY! I have family (mom, cousins, brother, etc.) who will tell you the same. You just don’t know shit about me. YES I care about looks, but unlike most females at least I have the gall to admit it!
My post is ALSO about girls loving the wrong fucking ones! Oh but you missed that part didn't you? OF COURSE! You're too damn busy trying to antagonize!!! I have one of the best attitudes a person can have! I've ALWAYS been nice and open minded with these girls. I've tried fat girls, and it didn't work out. I've tried many times. You have to be physically attracted and I wasn't. But that was me trying to look passed looks. Again, what an asshole am I!! "and being called handsome, attractive and cute doesn't count when it's your mom saying it. " VERY mature and UNTRUE response there gal!! Oh yeah, no, you're not a troll, you're not a troll at all!! (rolling eyes).
Finally, your little hot tempered antagonizing ass and all your little dumb ass advocates who don't think/read well need to take tips from the following people who have also commented on my post WITH A LOT MORE TACT AND CONSIDERATION!!: Loveisbeautiful, falling4UTC, cphiecekslee. And what's sad is that, in spite of you being in your 30's, they're from under 18 to like mid 20's and have a MUCH MUCH more insightful perspective on what I'm saying here!
My responses were not antagonistic, yours seem to have been removed... So I wonder who was really being antagonistic and nasty? Look, you don't want answers you want people to agree that it isn't you, it's them and that simply isn't true. Until you realise that you won't get anywhere.
Finally, your little hot tempered antagonizing behind and all your little dumb advocates who don't think/read well need to take tips from the following people who have also commented on my post WITH A LOT MORE TACT AND CONSIDERATION!!: Loveisbeautiful, falling4UTC, cphiecekslee. And what's sad is that, in spite of you being in your 30's, they're from under 18 to like mid 20's and have a MUCH MUCH more insightful perspective on what I'm saying here!
I'm not being nasty, just truthful. But that's too much for you obviously. My comments that I sent you last WERE NOT removed! I see them! And I got no message that they were removed. Seems to me you just don't want to HEAR my truth. Yes, I'm looking for opinions and answers, but NOT at the expense of tactfulness!!! If I AM the problem, I'd sure as hell like to know how! I'm talking to you like this right now b/c you were a total bitch to me from jump. I'm not like this with the girls I try to date, so that "it's not them, it's you" bullshit is out the window! TRY AGAIN!!!
I just don't see how being a good guy to these girls is sooooo wrong! I also don't see how they're soooo right for shooting me down in spite of them SAYING that I'm a good/great/nice guy and then run after some supreme douche who plays her ass and sends her home crying, saying "all men are dogs" and all this bs. She had a man who WASN'T a dog, and she treated him like one! Yet she just LOOOOVES the unemployed, uneducated, cheating, and/or lying ass loser who wouldn't even give a damn about his own kids he had by her.
Haha! I've just read your other responses, not just me who thinks it then eh? General consensus seems to be that you're an immature jackass and that's why you can't get a woman...
How am I so horrible for being a good guy and being turned down for no good reason at all and then the bitches go after the fucking jerks and then boo hoo about there being no good guys left? And I'M the bad guy somehow? I really think you need to get your shit screwed on right there scout.
By the way, you DO know this site is a general amalgamation of assholes right? Maybe that's why they're on consensus with you. Ever thought about that? Seems to me you're just gonna keeeep disagreeing no matter what, whether I'm right or wrong. Happy trolling.
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If they like the kind of people that you detest, then you are trying to date the wrong girls and you clearly need to find people who are actually compatible with you.
Most of the time this kind of rant is just some messed up generalization based on the notion that all females behave exactly the same way and think and feel the same way, disregarding the variation in experiences and value systems. Basically, a girl will like you if she appreciates you and finds you attractive. That is how it works from the male perspective as well, last time I checked anyways.
Now, would you like someone is a total tool and makes you feel bad? Probably not.
You're not wanting opinions. You're wanting someone to coddle you by saying you're a great guy, poor you for not having a girlfriend. To be honest, the way you talk in this question, you kind of sound like a dick. "Fat girls don't give me this trouble, wonder why?" I would never say something along those lines.
You are not entitled to having any of those girls you want. They have a choice in the matter too. Let them make their choices, and you can make yours. Would you want a girl who wants to go after assholes anyway? Who cares if you're nice? Who cares if you will fucking compliment the shit out of her? If there is nothing there, THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
Ooooh, butthurt much?
not all black girls are dealing with guys who lie cheat and abuse us. most women really aren't, and if we do end up with a guy who turns out to be like that they get dumped quickly. don't generalize all women as chasing after dogs just because that particular woman chooses not to date you. don't make the mistake of thinking if a woman doesn't want you its because she wants an asshole to abuse her. no one is perfect, perhaps there are things about you that turn her off or don't excite her? you admit to be boring and I can't tell you the last time I've ever liked a boring guy. so if you know that's a shortcoming you have, work on that because that is a major shortcoming. being boring is probably worse than being ugly for a guy. like if a guy has nothing to talk about, no life and isn't fun then im not gonna want to be around for long. he probably won't make it past date 2 if I am bored by him.
I mean how do you know? have you done surveys? asked all the attractive women you know about their current relationships?
maybe your not saying anything interesting. when you have a lot of options, you don't waste time hanging out with a guy multiple times if you have no feelings.
instead of talking to a girl about shit she doesn't care about, flirt with her. learn the power of seductive eye contact and body language and make her attractive to you. you might not be ugly but if you aren't sexy in terms of flirting and being sensual then you won't have that spark. sexual attraction and energy can take you far
people base dating choices off of feelings, not logic. well most people do. if a girl doesn't get butterflies or get excited to be around you then she won't give a fuck about you. why would you want to date someone your bored by and have no interest in? for all she knows once you get her and become comfortable with her youd probably cheat to. you can never say "oh this guy would never cheat on me" because shit happens and you don't know what people would do. all she knows is that she isn't interested in you. so if you are not fun and exciting then do your best to become that so you can get the girls you want. don't just say "o well im boring and women need to accept that because at least i won't cheat" lol no they don't and whos to say you wouldn't if another really attractive woman wanted you?
so basically your just friend zoning yourself. if a girl doesn't want to fuck you on a base level, then the odds of her wanting to date you are very low. the problem is you don't understand women and then when a woman does try to give you some advice you argue against it bc it doesn't fit into your preconceived notions on what a woman SHOULD want. the world don't work on shoulds. even if she doesn't have sex with a guy right off the bat she should at least want to. there is nothing wrong with sexual attraction, that's the reason why all of us exist. so if your not going to learn game, or social-sexual skills then don't complain when the guys who do know it get the girls you want. you have all the power to apply the knowledge to get the girls to be interested in you but you refuse to do it, so whos fault is that?
No one said all black girls deal with such guys. But the majority do. People all over YouTube concur with my sentiment. When girls end up with guys like that, they DONT get dumped quickly at all. Not sure what world you're in. It's not just one particular woman. It's many. And I SEE them get with dogs, I don't assume shit. Maybe there are things about me that don't excite her of course, otherwise she'd be with me. But WHAT? She asks for someone like me, and runs after the opposite. Again, it's all over that one should take what a female says with a grain of salt. Even My current girlfriend agrees. how is boredom soooo much worse than cheating, lying, maybe even worse, and knowing he'll never be a husband to you or your kids' father? Only if you loooove drama in your life and don't really care much about your kids/future kids.
But again, girls need to grow up into women before their figures become DISfigured and start making better priorities. Putting fun and excitement of a flame over education, hard work ethic, a plan for life, family orientation, honesty, loyalty, and perseverance isn't exactly the most sound investment for a long lasting bright future especially if you dream of marriage and family or at least dream of not being a washed up old hag in an apartment full of cats. I mean do girls even think "is the little excitement I'm getting with the bad boy now REALLY worth the future detriment?"? besides, 'kinda boring' here still means I still wanna see the world, explore a lot, and I'm into wild sex positions. So don't take 'kinda boring' and go haywire with it.
YOUNG HOT BITCHES? wow
Good luck with that attitude. I can see how it's working for you.
Everyone KEEPS ASS uming that I only want the young hot bitches. I've been saying over and over that I only want someone who's average looking or above. Hell I am! So how's that unreasonable? If I can look decent and have a good attitude/personality, then why can't decent looking girls? If I can be open minded then why can decent looking girls be?
Your attitude is worse than the Asker's, along with that of all the other females posting opinions here. I'm honestly quite disgusted at your gender, because of the way they all attack a guy like this when he's already feeling down, like a pack of damn rabid hyenas. You should be ashamed.
@ jointhe it's so interesting how the most ignorant and off base users never post their own opinion but they sure know how to uninvitedly jump into other users pinions and spread their yapper and ignorance.
That would be you. Have confidence to post your own opinions and back it up. That's right, you can do it!!
Now be gone along with your nonsense!!
She's right. Referring to women as young hot bitches says enough about his attitude towards women.
But jointhepatriarchy I've seen more of your comments, you just hate women and think of them as inferior. You're name says more than enough as well. I bet you're an American (USA) lol..
@jointhepatriarchy THAAAAANNNKKK YOOOOUUUU!!! jointhepatriarchy gets it!! I call them bitches because they ARE bitches!! I've always been that gentleman who got done like shit so that some bitch can go be with an asshole who dogs her ass out. Then she's played, left single parent, etc. and wants to blame men in general for this. Finally, she gives the used goods that aren't goods anymore to the nice, deserving good guy. HOW THA HELL IS THIS NOT A STUPID BITCH IN YOUR BOOKS?
Amen, Asker. Keep preaching the bitter truth.
I wanted to update my question more but I couldn't (dumb ass regulations on here). You see, the problem with almost all of you is that you DON'T KNOW ME!! I'm ranting here for pete's sake!! OF COURSE I don't talk like this towards potential dating partners. I'm nice to them! I'm a great guy! I'm just pissed at females right now. So all this "I can see why now/you're a douche/dick/asshole/etc" bullshit needs to cease! Why would you say all this to a good guy who's down and out on his luck? I'm trying to find helpful structural criticism and instead I'm getting ripped apart with insults and condescending. How the Fuck is that supposed to help ANYBODY?
25 up votes.. I think this might be a record for me
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@Toad-1The asker is RIP LOL
@MsFZB6 I'm sure the bad boys these hot young bitches love so much would think of them with soooo much more respect. Again, the asker would NOT say this on dates directly to girls. This is a RANT. A RANT people! Girls turn him down even without him using the phrase "young hot bitches". The bad ones actually treat girls as this phrase suggests; good guys dont. Good guys actually want to commit and be loyal. Somehow, this is perceived as bad. Hence the fucked up world we live in!
Yes, it would be cheaper to higher a prostitute. These hot girls who turn you down now will want you later when they are used up. However, when you make more money, you can go for the 18-22 year old girls. Women like men for power, money, and status. If you have those, you can get any women you want. Hot women want bad boys because they are fun and confident and have good looking bodies. You need to go for older women who may have a few mileage on them, but they can still show you a good time.
Sound logic
I honestly disagree with your logic. This is because most people in this country will not become rich & be able to attract gold diggers, which are the women you are telling him to go after. For the rest of the world who isn't rich, which is like 98% of us, we go for someone who is generally in our league. This has nothing to do with being used up & expecting to get a rich guy when you're older, it's about men & women trying to find someone they are attracted to.
I DEFINITELY agree with this. This is my logic exactly! And going after the young hot bitches when I make enough money is what I'm gonna do!!! FINALLY, someone with some damn sense on here!
to matrix124: Yes, and what women and men are attracted to is usually looks and money. And no one said you have to be a damn multimillionaire or billionaire to score with hot girls. I don't even think anyone mentioned "rich". This is the 2% YOU'RE talking about, but NerdInDenial and I are speaking of being financially stable, such as a lawyer, account, or doctor may be. I'm going to be a doctor. 6 figures is enough. If "women" were attracted to a good personality/good attitude/gentleman, I wouldn't be on here ranting now. I don't like that "out/in a league" bullshit. Why would someone be out of my league, or your league, or anybody's league? We're all fucking human aren't we? All of our shits smell bad don't they?
@matrix124, how do you define rich? I'm not saying you have to be a millionaire to attract gold diggers. People making $80,000 and more can get hot women. There is a correlation between attractiveness of women and income a man has. The more income a man has the better quality he can afford. More importantly, most women want a man who makes more money. Ugly women have to get a good job and career. If you need proof, look at the Forbes list of successful women. Most of them are ugly. The reason why women settle down with nice guys because they are used up and no longer able to get free stuff.
I couldn't care less about money. 1) I'd be happy living in a trailer for the rest of my life, 2) rich people often feel entitled, like you saying you want a 18-22 year old girl even though you would be 10+ years old. I've read only 5% of men make 6 figures, if you want to be in this 5%, you are have all the right in the world to try. As for being "used up," which I find a very sexist & degrading thing to say, I'm personally saving myself for my husband. Personality & looks matter to me, but I believe in going for someone who is in the same league as me, as I think that is realistic.
"If "women" were attracted to a good personality... I wouldn't be on here ranting now. I don't like that "out/in a league" bullshit." You want "YOUNG HOT BITCHES," yet expect women to only care about personality. If you don't realize how hypocritical you sound, there is nothing more I can say.
NerdInDenial, nailed it again!
And don't get us wrong matrix124, we're not talking about you. We're talking about females in general. We calling them used up ISN'T sexist; it's the truth. I've told you, I'm gonna be a doctor. Don't doctors make 6 figs? You don't have to answer that question cause I know the answer. And I don't feel entitled and I'm pretty sure I won't. I'm just saying I'll FINALLY be able to get what I want when I'm making good money. Again, what is this "league" bull crap? Are you some sort of separatist? You believe everyone should be divided into "leagues"? A house divided shall not stand. I said I want AT LEAST AVERAGE looking girls, and I'm only 26. So how is my desire unreasonable? I'm not ugly myself. But what I said is true there. How am I being a hypocrite? Did I ever say looks don't matter to me?
oh and I don't care about JUST looks. NEVER did I say that. I'm just saying there seems to be a STRONG ass direct correlation b/w girls' looks and my failure to get dates with them
Wow, You seem familiar. Look, if you think "fat girls want to be with you simply because they're settling and desperate," then that says to me that you think of yourself as a consolation prize. If that's your attitude, even a little, people will pick up on it. You need to get that out of your head. And don't discount the "fat chicks." If you give them some time you may actually see some other qualities. Trust me, they do have them.
You're really putting those redeeming qualities of yours on display here, aren't you? 👈😉 I'll tell you what; You put a little more effort into not alienating everyone that talks to you, and I bet you'll see a change in how women treat you. How does that sound?
Sorry, alienating wasn't quite the right word. What I meant to say was that you have all the charm of an inflamed hemorrhoid. You should work on that.
For once i got to agree with @Shusername. Even though i do think his wording was always the best, there is truth in what he says here
Thanks buddy 👊
You're welcome
And suddenly @terminator88 has shown himself to be @breman. That sound you hear is the sound of nobody being surprised.
I suspect @WillTreyZongs = @Breman. I can't believe anyone else would willingly wade through this mess commenting on every opinion that disagrees with the asker. @mods?
Hey listen, i know how you feel cause i have gone my entire life unloved by women. and yes i too have noticed that the majority of young girls go out with absolute wankers. their words not mine. but they will reach a point where they want to settle down. you know people used to say that girls mature before guys, but i think thats been reversed. i think there are more genuine young guys out there than genuine young girls. im not a player or a man slut or whatever. i have never even kissed a girl in my entire life, but i must not generalise women. you shouldn't either. becoming bitter is only natural, but the minute you accept that is the minute you accept that you won't find a woman to be with. guys like us just need to wait. i know it sucks, but we must be patient. good things come to those who wait.
Damn. Don't know what girls you're talking to, haha. I admit, girls can be terrible at times. But not all of us are bitches. Maybe try looking for love in different/new places? Or maybe try not looking at all! I once just gave up on guys for a while, and them BAM, I met this awesome guy, haha. We aren't together anymore but I still think he's cool. It also let me know there are still good guys out there! So don't discard all women just yet; keep your head up and you'll be good. Have some fun, lol! Just keep a look out for the good ones. :)
If you only got girls because you started getting good money then they weren't worth it. All you have to do is be yourself, not some pretend perfect guy. and seriously what is up with the young hot chicks- you just mean girls your age who are pretty. - if all you want is an average girl, don't, you deserve better than just some average chick. In order to find the Perfect person for you, you have to be yourself and see through other peoples motives. Do Not become the stupid guy who gets girls pregnant and plays them- it is not worth it.
I'm just saying don't play people because your actions can destroy them, 2- since I don't actually know him I am sorry that I assumed he wasn't being himself. People who settle for average ( pretty but not beautiful, not tall but not short, not fat but not skinny) usually are putting themselves down. most guys who think they are average looking are only average looking in their eyes, in someone else's eyes they could be perfect. "better then average"- who you define is more pretty then just the girl down the street.- it kind of depends on the person. But I guess if you would want to settle for "average" go right on ahead.
- there is nothing extraordinary about that person-
average looks
average hair
average laugh
average smile...
wouldn't you want something better then just a plain person. you want someone you think is special.
- at least that's what I think.
Wow this is a really long post. To be blunt you sound like some guy who's given up on love because you haven't found it yet. Maybe women just don't find you attractive. Maybe it's your personality or maybe it's your looks. I don't know. There's something about you that the women you're attracted to don't find attractive. Have you ever approached any of these women you find attractive? Do you have confidence? How's a woman supposed to know that you're this nice, amazing, gentleman that you say you are if you don't go up and introduce yourself. By the way I know everybody has already mentioned this but big girls are beautiful too.
I get they don't find me attractive. The question is why. I'm not bad looking (5'10", 18% body fat, workout often, bald, mixed race) IMO. Everyone says I'm a handsome guy. Have I approached them? Of course! How would I be able to bring this up or debate this if I didn't? I have GREAT confidence. Who told you I didn't introduce myself/try to talk to her? Again, this is why I'm ranting in the first place, b/c I've done this and got rejected. I've tried big girls, and I couldn't perform in bed with them. This is why, instead of disappointing them and me as well as waste our time anymore, I've chosen to stop dating them altogether.
Don't mind him. He's from another country. I say that.
You sound lovely. Can't imagine why girls don't want to date you.
Well You could see just how lovely I am if you'd actually get to know me instead of making a prejudgment based off of a rant.
Says the guy who assumes that most/all girls suck just because they don't want to date you. Don't be such a hypocrite.
How am I a hypocrite? There are girls who'll date me alright... THE FAT ONES!! Wonder why? Any explanation for that one?
Also, sweetheart, when someone rants, they're pissed. Just a little tip there. Now if I'm pissed, am I gonna sound like I always do? Of course not! Why do I think girls suck? Cause the ones who look worth a shit are assholes to me for no reason. Now the big girls, they're nice. Know why? They're compensating for lack of looks. You and I know good and damn well that if they filled the attractive girl's stilettos instead, they'd be mindless pricks too.
I'm not going to even bother talking to someone who calls me "sweetheart" in order to belittle me. Lol.
@jointhepatriarchy nowhere on this site does it say that you HAVE to be helpful. :) I don't care that he's fed up with all girls. It's not my problem. I just pointed out that maybe he's not as lovely as he thinks he is.
And maybe women really are as bad as he says they are?
@jointhepatriarchy Nah.
Then why are there so many questions like this, every goddamn day?
@jointhepatriarchy because quite a few people in general get hella pressed when they don't get what they want.
Is that a reason for all you females to attack them like a pack of hyenas though? Seriously, you females are nothing but vicious whenever some frustrated guy posts a rant like this. It doesn't help your gender at all, just makes you look like a bunch of heartless bitches.
@jointhepatriarchy how the fuck am I supposed to sympathize with a guy who more or less gets offended when only overweight girls pay attention to him? How the fuck am I going to sympathize with a guy who thinks that he can basically "buy" all the hot chicks he wants once he becomes "rich and successful"?
He basically admitted that he likes hot and shallow girls, and then wonders why they don't want him. Gee, wonder why? Maybe because they're shallow? I don't sympathize with stupidity.
So I take it you date fat guys all the time?
@jointhepatriarchy no, I've actually never dated anyone. But I wouldn't sit here and act all offended if an overweight guy told me that he wanted to date me. Neither would I sit here and say that nobody would ever want to date an overweight person, since that's obviously not true.
Never dated anyone? You poor thing. Even I've had dates before.
@jointhepatriarchy I don't care. It'll happen when it happens. Unlike some people, I don't start whining about it on the internet.
Actually, it's not likely to just happen if you don't put forth any effort or at least make yourself available for guys to ask out..
@jointhepatriarchy I put in plenty of effort.
Like how so? What kind of effort?
@jointhepatriarchy I initiate conversations, ask him if he can hang out, tell him I like him etc. I baked a cake to a guy I liked once, too. Basic stuff like that. Not sure how this is relevant, though.
And yet you've never been on a date? You're obviously doing SOMETHING wrong because you're not really ugly.
@jointhepatriarchy haha idk, usually the guys I end up liking tell me that they're not ready for a relationship. Oh well, whatevs.
Damn commitment-phobes.
@jointhepatriarchy I guess I simply end up liking the wrong guys.
Eh, common mistake. Plus nowadays most people just want to screw around.
Wait you look like that AND you bake cakes for people? I'm actually kinda shocked, that you've never had a bf. Unless of course they like pies, that could be your problem. Also I found this conversation hilarious simply because jointhepatriarchy went from calling you an "sarcastic antagonistic bitch" to being all friendly and sympathizing with your relationship struggles. Lol
@Bandit74 *flips hair*
Lumos, you should date him!! qqCan
*Can I play piano at the wedding?
@rocksongwriter ew. No.
@jointhepatriarchy I agree with @rocksongwriter you two should get married. you're a condescending dick and according to you she's a sarcastic bitch. Plus considering the fact that you're both inexperienced, this could be a match made in heaven. Think about it, 10 years from now you could be telling your kids how you met their mother on gag. This could be a cheesy romance novel.
@Bandit74 Our children would be so evil...
@jointhepatriarchy Yeah they would! Just the thought scares me. They could be sarcastic, condescending, bitchy, assholes.
*would*
They would look like this. @Bandit74
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@jointhepatriarchy and your daughter would look like this...
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@Bandit74 Well you've convinced me not to marry her. XD
@jointhepatriarchy Aw don't say that. Don't let her be the one that got away. If you don't like the way your kids are going to turn out, you could just adopt. Also don't forget, she will bake delicious cakes for you. Now if that doesn't sound like happily ever after then I don't know what does. Marry Her!
@Bandit74 Will said cake be chocolate? o_O
@jointhepatriarchy
@rocksongwriter
@Bandit74
I don't want any kids in the first place so stop.
@lumos What about said cake?
@jointhepatriarchy I can't say for sure, but it's certainly a possibility. But to be sure you should ask your future wife for clarification.
@jointhepatriarchy you don't deserve my cake.
@lumos I don't care if I deserve it, only whether or not it's chocolate.
@Bandit74 his future wife is nonexistent.
@jointhepatriarchy I mainly bake mudcakes.
@lumos don't be soo mean. If you've been reading our conversation, you'd realize that you and patriarchy are perfect for each other. He will actually appreciate your cakes unlike those shallow inconsiderate bastards in Finland. Marry him
@Bandit74 I will never marry anyone. Go away.
Mud as in chocolate or do you mean wet dirt?
@jointhepatriarchy chocolate, you dumbo.
Okay then, this might actually work out.
@jointhepatriarchy no. Go away.
I'll consider it.
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@lumos Alright I'll go away, but it's a shame to know there won't be a lucky guy that gets to enjoy your chocolate cakes. Also in my honest opinion, you and patriarchy would have made such a cute couple. So sad things didn't work out for the two of you :(
@Bandit74 I'm still waiting on my cake, dude.
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@jointhepatriarchy She seems serious, I don't think you'll be getting any cake from her in the foreseeable future. Better luck next time :/
@Bandit74 Are you sure? Maybe she just can't really bake, and the cake was a metaphor for something else...
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@jointhepatriarchy Well she said "I only bake mud cakes" so I guess this little metaphor is more perverted than you originally thought ;)
Sorry @lumos, I'm not really into anal.
@Bandit74 Tagged so you can see my last post. :P
@jointhepatriarchy Aren't you the one that originally specified that you wanted chocolate cake?
@Bandit74 Yes but I actually meant cake, not ass. I'm not a pervert like @lumos is.
@jointhepatriarchy Well i guess you dodged a bullet then. Some guy in Finland is probably going to end up getting her chocolate cake.
@Bandit74 I doubt it, she's too defensive.
@jointhepatriarchy @Bandit74 wtf? Mudcake = anal? Who the fuck is that perverted. Also, anal doesn't exactly sound very pleasurable to me. No thank you. You can keep your anal mudcakes and I shall keep my regular actual-cakes-mudcakes.
@jointhepatriarchy That's why you two would have been so good together, she's defensive, and your offensive. You'd balance each other out perfectly. Maybe you two can compromise, you're not into chocolate cake, so maybe she could make you vanilla cake? You two lovebirds might still have a chance :)
@Bandity74 fuck no, I'd never date a misogynist.
Yeah right, you know you can't really bake. :p
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@jointhepatriarchy except that I can. I work at a catering firm, that also hosts cooking classes, you dumbass.
You're not even married yet and you're already arguing like an old couple... Soooo cute 😄
this is one hell of a conversation. Right when i thought lumos and jointhepatriarchy couldn't be more polar opposites, things start getting sweet between the two of them. Then bam. back to square one. I am a very confused onlooker
@lumos I've got a serious question for you? Have you been even romotely entertained by this conversation or are you just outright annoyed. The optimist in me hopes that it's the former rather than the latter but the realist in me is saying that you just think we are annoying/immature. Could you put my mind at ease, which is it?
@Negrodamus You took the words right out of my mouth. This has been one HELL of a conversation but I fear that for lumos it has just been HELL. 😈
I meant that she and Breman (the original poster) should date.
Yeah, she must think I'm actually serious. @Bandit74 XD
@Bandit74 this conversation was so bad that I had to take a 3 hour long nap
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@jointhepatriarchy first things first I'm the srsest
@lumos So you weren't even mildly entertained? :(
@Bandit74 no
@lumos That breaks my heart to hear that but look on the bright side, because of our conversation you were forced to take a 3 hour nap. So now you are well rested and therefore you are physically/mentally prepared for whatever life throws at you.
@Bandit74 which would be more sleep, considering that it's 23:29
@lumos Well you will be even more well rested for tomorrow. With all this extra energy you're going to be able to take the day by the horns and make it your bitch.
Wait, you took this seriously?
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So pressed. :D
What in thhe actual hell did i just read? dude, people are weird...
Don't mind him. He's from middle east or something like that
@MsJustice I've given plenty of serious and thoughtful answers. However, a stupid question deserves a stupid answer in my opinion.
@WillTreyZongs and you sound like you've made 10 accounts just to defend yourself. Let it go already, this question is almost a month old... you're literally the only one who still cares.
People don't take serious things seriously anymore. How good men are treated kinda matters. Of course the majority of first world females can't see that. You think the asker actually talks like this on dates? He's obviously ranting! DIFFERENCE!! Looks like you're avoiding the main argument too their honey cakes. He made excellent points about the fat girls. Why is it that fat girls date him and slim ones don't? Girls need to quit asking for good guys when that's not what they really want. Fucking leader ons. Why don't you just take the argument for what the fuck it is instead of trying to call him out for not being as nice as he says he is? Again, avoiding the argument. Why don't you think about wtf he's saying for once? If a girl won't date him for a reason that's one thing. Not dating him for no reason is another. Get it?
@TheFullestThrottle good bye, this post is over a year old
As old as it is, I'm still right and your way of thinking is still fucked up. You sound like someone who doesn't want to admit to harsh truths
@TheFullestThrottle harsh truths? The harsh truth is that you won't get anywhere in life if you generalize people and chase those whose standards you don't meet. If you chase shallow bitches, expect a shallow bitch response if you don't meet her standards. Crying about it on gag and acting as if all women behave this way is petty and childish. He was here whining about how women go for the "wrong men" who are "douchebags" yet he admitted himself to wanting to score with hot and shallow chicks who also happen to be assholes themselves, gold diggers too. THAT'S hypocritical. And if you can't see that, then I can't help you. Being offended at someone wanting to date you is like the epitome of narcissism and shallowness. Stop bugging me on this old ass question already and sit the fuck down.
Vast majority of girls will chase bad boys when they can IS a harsh truth. Who says he's chasing people who's standards he doesn't meet? And if he don't meet their standards, question is what are their standards, and why do they contradict with what they say their standards are? Real women aren't shallow and they aren't ashamed to admit what they really want For what they really want is a good man. A bitch is what he and I are complaining about now. A guy often times won't know if she's shallow until he talks to her. Then he finds out she's a shallow bitch, and you wanna say it's HIS intentions to chase a shallow bitch? He never said this would get him anywhere; he's discussing it (or trying to). I don't know how in the hell people keep getting that connected in their fucking brains. He wants to fuck these shallow bitches to let them know that's all their worth, a fuck, and he's right. And since soooo many females are like that, he doesn't have much choice!
And I see someone has her ass stuck in the air about this question, dismissing it like its a non issue and THEN you have the audacity to command me to do something. Yeah, you sound lovely yourself; surely no real men want anyone with an attitude like that!! If there were good reasons As to why we got turned down, then we wouldn't say shit. But there aren't any. Bottom line, too many of you bimbos chase the wrong guys down for the wrong reasons and dismiss the good guys for horribly shallow reasons (yet you call asker shallow). Then you have the nerve to complain when you're all washed up, fat single mothers cause you can't get anybody. The good man would've still been with ya even at that stage if you would've been with him during ya prime to show that you really love him and not just with him when it's convenient (I. e., when you're not so hot anymore). So what you look like getting with him only when you're washed up?
You only fuck with the bad ones when you're a hot commodity. You come around one day when you're washed up and want a good man then (conveniently). How dare you care so little about a good patient man that you "love" so much when you're washed up that you made him wait while you got fucked and emotionally destroyed by low life niggas? Now the good man is gracious enough to help take care of kids that aren't biologically his. But real women are RARE. So this is why more than likely asker would just have to fuck em and leave em when money makes him more attractive so he can have sex with someone attractive; unfortunately, physical female attractiveness usually doesn't come with a good heart. So she's good to fuck, but ain't shit to marry! So really, asker is NOT a hypocrite but he's rather responding to what he's subjected to.
@TheFullestThrottle oh my god go away.
I always tell people this: There are two versions of me 1. DoucheBag 2. Nice guy
1. Douchebag - doesn't give a s**t, does what he wants, gets into fights, extremely extroverted, very confident, drinks, parties, dances and sings and treats women like shyt.
2. Nice guy - treats women nice, doesn't go out as often, more cautious, respectful.
Guess which one gets cheated on and guess which one get more girls? The nice guy gets cheated on and douchebag has multiple partners and has fun at the sametime. Over the course of my life I've switched about 3 to 4 times and the results are always the same.
ergo. become a douche brah.
Sounds to me like you're trying to out-kick your coverage.
huh?
You're going for girls out of your league.
Define "out of my league"
@rthomas43 I know it sounds crazy as hell, especially to all those butt hurt females who voted up for your comment here since they found my question offensive regardless of my explanation, but I don't see anybody, especially females (chuckles), being better than I am or too good for me.
It's an awesome world we live in, isn't it? Everything you've said is true, but why not save your money and your dignity? I've been in the same situation so take some satisfaction that they're hurting themselves a lot more than they can ever hurt you. By the time, they realize their mistake, they won't be desirable to the good guys out there anymore and then they'll have to settle for whatever they can get. Honestly, I think being single is way better than being in a relationship.
Great advice! But I can't be celibate for the next 5 1/2 years until I'm a doc, when I can finally get them. This is why I say prostitutes are a good option... in Nevada at least.
Wish people would learn it goes both ways. Guys do the same thing. Nobody's perfect. Just worry about what you can control. Be the best you that you can be, the girl for you will come around eventually.
Of course I know it goes both ways. But I'm not like other guys... no really, I'm not!!
I'm speaking of only girls here because I ONLY GO AFTER GIRLS!
Oh, ofcourse you're not. Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself of it more than us. Everybody is flawed, even you. So get off your "nice guy" soap box and figure out what's keeping you single and FIX IT!
Uuuhhh... WHAT DO YOU THINK I'M TRYING TO DO HERE? I AM trying to find the problem. I am a good guy (with spine and assertiveness), but I can't find a bad personality flaw. Oh yeah, I'm flawed alright: I may be a bit boring sometimes, but that's nothing! No way that can outweigh all the good things about me. And how is a lying, cheating, child neglecting, verbally/physically abusive, unambitious fuck justified by being interesting and fun? It's hard for me TO be interesting and fun if the girl won't even bother to write back or go out with me anywhere. Face it, females like to pick out the small negativity with good guys and run with it while the pick out the small positivity in bad ones and run with it.
Because genetically women presume YOU HAVE ALREADY KNOWN these stuffs, they don't want to teach men about these stuffs as a general rule we couldn't believe what they're saying at this topic (women are reacting emotionally not words) so stop whining and learn from experiences.
Oh, so now people who are recently from other countries are putting me down now? Can't understand shit you said. Learn from experiences? Ok, this is what I've learned: be a player, don't give a fuck, treat her like shit, and then she'll wanna marry and have kids with your ass. GREAT American lesson to get an American female!
And again, I'm NOT fucking whining! Why does everyone keep saying that shit? I'm just telling my problem and trying to get USEFUL feedback on this situation since I can't get the answer out here in the real world from myself or people around me. That's what healthy people do when they can't find an answer: they TALK TO OTHER people ABOUT IT!! Or as you and so many others call it, THEY WHINE!!! I guess you won't be WHINING to the doctor when your heart is acting up or you have a stroke!
What you have learned (being a complete badass player) doesn't work. Everything should be in moderation. So what u were complaining about:
never available (because she don't want to misunderstand the relationship)
lead me on (because u're too weak in her eyes)
don't respond on dating sites (it's their choices, they are constantly being bombarded by many guys, they want someone who are outstanding especially good looking)
don't give me a good reason why they don't want to talk to me anymore (because you turn them off)
are always too sick or busy to go out with me anywhere (because they already put you in friend zone)
And EVEN if you don't fuckin whine, what's the point of writing here? THOUGHT OF JOKE WITHOUT TELLING doesn't work! You have to get yourself into the field!
Get myself into the field? I do! It's hard to get her ass to see what a great, strong man I am if she won't even give me a chance.
Maybe the problem isn't that "girls suck".
Maybe the problem is you.
Can't see what my problem is. No one ever told me I had a problem. They'd just say I'm not their type or "it's not you, it's me". I've never been called ugly except by one girl I slept with who got pissed at me one time for something pretty stupid but then again she was bipolar as hell. So no, I'm quite sure it isn't me.
@coaxmetal Can't see what my problem is. No one ever told me I had a problem. They'd just say I'm not their type or "it's not you, it's me". I've never been called ugly except by one girl I slept with who got pissed at me one time for something pretty stupid but then again she was bipolar as hell. So no, I'm quite sure it isn't me.
"Don't get me wrong, I love fat women b/c they're so nice and friendly, but I'm not romantically attracted to them." Just change fat girls to good guys and you have the female equivalent of why they dont give you the time of day. Women will say they want one thing, but just open your eyes and look around you and you'll see their actions showing a completely different reality. It won't produce a long lasting relationship but it will produce the drama women seek. Women want their life to be like a reality tv show/soap opera. Bad boys add thrill and excitement like a roller coaster. Bitches be crazy.
I'm not racist but I generalize based on skin color. I respect and cherish women, but I think they're all horrible. I love fat women and I'm not offensive, but all fat women who try to date are desperate. Man, what a catch you are.
Shut up! He's a NICE GUY!
.. right
No, you don't understand what I'm saying at all. Let me be the great courageous guy who speaks the 'horrid truth' and be clear: I'm saying you're a self-absorbed, arrogant hypocrite who assumes the Truth reflects perfectly your own limited experience. I'm saying that you're making it very clear you don't respect nor cherish women, and that saying you're not offensive doesn't at all make you inoffensive. You're generalizing women, black women, fat women. Everything you wrote makes you palpably unlikable. It's a whiny, antagonizing, misogynistic, unattractive rant. No self-respecting woman would date you, and it's not because of some imaginary, convenient stereotype. It's because of you.
I feel sorry for the chubby girls, having to date n obvious ugly-duckling like you. I'd the fit girls don't want you it's because they think they are out of your league, the chubby girls are settling for you and you're settling for them...
Ha! What a lovely, mature response you've given. I'm assuming you aren't that physically attractive (at least not as attractive as you think you are) because you are getting zero responses online and that medium is all about looks. If you really were in the same league as the women you're pursuing then what else could be putting them off? Perhaps your charming personality? You seem to be basing your relationships purely on looks, if this is the case then no wonder they aren't working out. You have implied your settling for chubby girls because you refer to them in a derogatory manner and say that what you really want is a proper hottie.
Oh no, I'm just called attractive, handsome, sexy, cute a lot for no fucking reason, I'm sure. And look who's talking about mature responses... Who said I was getting 0 responses online? AGAIN, ASS uming. STOP THAT!! What's putting them off? THEY'RE SHALLOW AS HELL!!! They're stuck up, and they think just because I'm only 5'10", yet they're just 5'7" themselves, and b/c they're accountants and I'm a med student not making any money yet that they're too good for me, or as you put it, "out of my league". Me saying that no one is out of my league is saying I HAVE CONFIDENCE!!!
Why couldn't you have come at me with a more tactful response? You gave me an asshole response first, so I came at you with one myself. Fair. I don't just care about looks; a girl could be hot as fuck, but if she's a bitch, then fuck her. All I'd do is bang and leave if given the opportunity. She's not worth anything else. I've tried getting with the nice, sweet big girls, but "it wouldn't work". I want someone who's just AVERAGE looking or above since I myself am AVERAGE looking or above; I know that may not make any sense to you, but wtf ever. I only told the truth about fat girls. They are fat, and no one else wants them. This is obvious common sense.
"Why is it that the attractive girls (this means slim, pretty, nice curves, soft skin, pretty hair... heck they can even be just average looking) are never available, lead me on, don't respond on dating sites, don't give me a good reason why they don't want to talk to me anymore, are always too sick or busy to go out with me anywhere"
That's why I assume you're getting nowhere, because YOU told me! And the reason a responded as I did is because your sucky question was phrased like a true asshole, I'll tell you now: it's not them, it's you. You come across as an absolute dick and I'm not surprised people won't date you. And don't tell me you don't care about looks, that's what your whole post is about, or is it just fat? Your attitude stinks and girls can smell it a mile off.
and being called handsome, attractive and cute doesn't count when it's your mom saying it.
This is just what they do generally speaking. Yes I’ve gotten a few and far in b/w responses…ONLINE. Now did these girls who responded to me KEEP responding, or did they CONTINUE to text me back? NO. My question ISN’T sucky! You’re just butt hurt about me telling the damn dirty truth! Excuuuuse the hell out of me for being a gentleman, being nice, courteous, respectful, loyal, and honest. Oh yeah, I’m a true asshole!! I have a few female friends who would tell you right away that I’m a GREAT GUY! I have family (mom, cousins, brother, etc.) who will tell you the same. You just don’t know shit about me. YES I care about looks, but unlike most females at least I have the gall to admit it!
My post is ALSO about girls loving the wrong fucking ones! Oh but you missed that part didn't you? OF COURSE! You're too damn busy trying to antagonize!!! I have one of the best attitudes a person can have! I've ALWAYS been nice and open minded with these girls. I've tried fat girls, and it didn't work out. I've tried many times. You have to be physically attracted and I wasn't. But that was me trying to look passed looks. Again, what an asshole am I!! "and being called handsome, attractive and cute doesn't count when it's your mom saying it. " VERY mature and UNTRUE response there gal!! Oh yeah, no, you're not a troll, you're not a troll at all!! (rolling eyes).
Finally, your little hot tempered antagonizing ass and all your little dumb ass advocates who don't think/read well need to take tips from the following people who have also commented on my post WITH A LOT MORE TACT AND CONSIDERATION!!: Loveisbeautiful, falling4UTC, cphiecekslee. And what's sad is that, in spite of you being in your 30's, they're from under 18 to like mid 20's and have a MUCH MUCH more insightful perspective on what I'm saying here!
My responses were not antagonistic, yours seem to have been removed... So I wonder who was really being antagonistic and nasty? Look, you don't want answers you want people to agree that it isn't you, it's them and that simply isn't true. Until you realise that you won't get anywhere.
Finally, your little hot tempered antagonizing behind and all your little dumb advocates who don't think/read well need to take tips from the following people who have also commented on my post WITH A LOT MORE TACT AND CONSIDERATION!!: Loveisbeautiful, falling4UTC, cphiecekslee. And what's sad is that, in spite of you being in your 30's, they're from under 18 to like mid 20's and have a MUCH MUCH more insightful perspective on what I'm saying here!
Did you get that one? You called me an "ugly-duckling". THAT'S NOT ANTAGONIZING?
I'm not being nasty, just truthful. But that's too much for you obviously. My comments that I sent you last WERE NOT removed! I see them! And I got no message that they were removed. Seems to me you just don't want to HEAR my truth. Yes, I'm looking for opinions and answers, but NOT at the expense of tactfulness!!! If I AM the problem, I'd sure as hell like to know how! I'm talking to you like this right now b/c you were a total bitch to me from jump. I'm not like this with the girls I try to date, so that "it's not them, it's you" bullshit is out the window! TRY AGAIN!!!
I just don't see how being a good guy to these girls is sooooo wrong! I also don't see how they're soooo right for shooting me down in spite of them SAYING that I'm a good/great/nice guy and then run after some supreme douche who plays her ass and sends her home crying, saying "all men are dogs" and all this bs. She had a man who WASN'T a dog, and she treated him like one! Yet she just LOOOOVES the unemployed, uneducated, cheating, and/or lying ass loser who wouldn't even give a damn about his own kids he had by her.
Haha! I've just read your other responses, not just me who thinks it then eh? General consensus seems to be that you're an immature jackass and that's why you can't get a woman...
If this is helping you then please carry on venting.
You didn't read the posts associated with the names I gave you did you? I bet you didn't. They're sooooo much more understanding than you are!
How am I so horrible for being a good guy and being turned down for no good reason at all and then the bitches go after the fucking jerks and then boo hoo about there being no good guys left? And I'M the bad guy somehow? I really think you need to get your shit screwed on right there scout.
By the way, you DO know this site is a general amalgamation of assholes right? Maybe that's why they're on consensus with you. Ever thought about that? Seems to me you're just gonna keeeep disagreeing no matter what, whether I'm right or wrong. Happy trolling.