Why do girls overestimate their value?

[Anonymous]

I read this on another post here and I agree. Most girls HIGHLY overestimate their value on the dating scene despite having nothing tangible to offer.

Many of them use their "looks" as an excuse to do this.

What causes them to think this way?

[homies]

U should have much more respect for women. I didn't understand how important it was to have so much respect for a woman till i was in a relationship. They dont havr to do their hair all nice, which takes hours for my girlfriend. They dont have to wear makeup, do their nails, dress up, lipstick all that stuff. They dont have to do it. True, they do it mostly for themselves because they are ladies! And they like to look pretty, but when they arrive at a dinner date at a big fanxy restaraunt, u would probabaly rather see them all dressed up! Of course deep down u love them for who they are and not their looks, but the looks are like the icing on the cake, and u shouls always appreciate it when they go the extra mile to do things like that! And u should tell them how stunning they are all the time, but especially when they put sooo much work for it. Same thing for guys, girls dont like guys just becuz they have big muscles, (if you do have muscles, this is just an example) . But u feel really great if a girl compliments u on ur ripped calves or big biceps, right? U feel appreciated, ur happy that they noticed how much work you did to get your body in shape. Body building is a lot of work. and makeup and hair is just one if many examples, think of the sweet texts they send, the selfies, everything... they are giving you their lives, they are letting you be a part of it. Thats whats most important. And same goes for you! When you look at someone as a whole, and know that you can learn something from them, and how much of an honor it is to be a part of their life, thats when you will realize a lot of great things about them. When you have this ideology and respect for every person on this planet. Thats how you become the greatest person you can be and thats when you will be able to greatly impact peoples lives. Is it possible for women and men to overestimate their "value"? Of course! But you should still give them your attention and upmost respect, especially if it is your girlfriend. Now, it ain't always gonna be rainbows and sunshine in every relationship, there will be times when you will lose some respect for your partner, but this is why the little things are important, the sweet texts, the time and energy to be there for one another, the hair and makeup. These things are the glue That hold the big pieces together, always remember them when going through tought times. respect your girlfriend and respect your relationship And respect yourself.✌️

[FromAshes]

It shouldn't impact what you choose to do with your life. I work with girls with super inflated senses of self worth because of how they are treated on a daily basis by men who offer cheap compliments.

At the same time, they don't work hard and get easily distracted by self lust, and after 5-6 years of not working hard and building a real sense of worth, they won't be near your level.

[Anonymous]

Society loves to teach girls and young women that they're princesses. Oh boy! What the fuck. While her beauty and breasts are all that she has. Yep. So inturn most women are shallow vaginas that think of shopping, her nails, hair and tits. No moral values or respect for themselves what so ever. Shouldn't her mind be the best thing to offer? And why not finish school, go to college get a job make her own money be the first on the list instead of a damn 14 yr old child thinking that if only I had big boobs then my life would be fulfilled. Thank society for this. I did hair for years and this is what I heard all day long: what shoes to buy, oh my boobs aren't big enough, can't you hurry I've got to go shopping. Never ever ever did I have a stimulating convo with a female client. It got sooo boring and tideus I quit. Or I'd've puked all over their 400 carat diamond ring and her $2,000 purse and her uggs. Yes. So I'm going annon with this just because I don't need the backlash from you people whom know I'm wrong. Thank you. Have a wonderful day! ;)

[Asker]

Straight from the horses mouth. (Not that you're a horse), but thank you!!!

So what SHOULD the value of a woman be? I really don't think that all girls are that materialistic as the extreme examples that you stated.

[Opinion Owner]

No not ALL but most are and I'd love to say a woman's mind. If she's capable of real thoughts that is. And no I'm not a bull dike, I'm married with children.

[Anonymous]

I kind of think you may feel that way because you've never experienced both sides of it because there's a good bit of men who look very average or below average, yet have ridiculous standards for women when it comes to appearances.

Also most women i've personally been around, which is a lot, under value their looks and have low standards if you ask me. They will be attractive, be really sweet girls who do anything for the person they're with and their below average-looking husbands will treat them like trash.

I do know what you mean though, i've seen a select few- on this site, be kind of snotty. I've also seen a few women irl do it as well, they act very arrogant and entitled and to be blunt, just think that they look a lot better than they actually do.

[nalaa]

Well there have been surveys and they found that it's actually men who overestimate their own attractiveness, while women underrate theirs. So pick something else to make yourself feel better

[cccp777]

BALONEY! The majority of the research indicates the opposite!

[deusexmachinaa]

Lmao just as how guys overestimate their value. I've seen a lot of guys ugly that try to aim for their prettiest girls. Take a seat, men love trashing girls.

[snowangle]

This.

[Asker]

I didn't mention anything about looks. A girls value, nor a guys value, is based on their looks. It's based on their behavior.

An example of girls with an inflated sense of value is bartenders in the United States. In other countries, bartenders don't even get tipped, but here, you would be hard pressed to convince a bartender that she wasn't queen of the world.

[deusexmachinaa]

So the losers that don't have a job don't overestimate their value either? I've seen it all the time, where the guy would work at a McDonalds and think he was the shit. Again, take a seat, stop trashing girls.

[Asker]

But I don't work at McDonald's. I flip houses and make over $200,000/year, which I taught myself how to do.

YOU NEED TO TAKE A SEAT, LITTLE GIRL!!!

[deusexmachinaa]

And I work in the tech industry, and make just as much.. your point now?

[anonman32]

@duesexmachinaa i dont think prettiness is the only value one can have.

[Asker]

I doubt you make $200,000/year. What company do you work for? What exactly do you do?

I bet I eat healthier than you do and get more exercise.

[deusexmachinaa]

I said just as much... I'm not going to disclose where I work on this website. I do take care of my body lol, diet and exercise is pretty important to me. We can keep going back and forth, or we can both agree that girls and guys can be on the same level.

[Asker]

I guess they can be. But I still think a lot of girls overestimate their value. Or maybe I just underestimate them.

[Crimson79]

How about you take a seat little boy.

[cccp777]

Sorry, the "evidence" seems to indicate quite the opposite!

[Rocket_Queen]

Am I the only one who doesn't care what value sign is hanging over my head, or what number I fall on a zero to ten rate me scale, of if I'm actually curvy or actually fat, or alpha enough in a beta world? These gag world problems are hilarious.

As crazy as it sounds... I just want a good man, and to be a good woman, and to raise a good family, full of good memories.

I mean seriously, some of y'all don't even see people anymore. Just numbers and categories.

[somebodysaycheese]

We overestimate? We make our own money , are independent, and what is that you can offer that i dont have or can't get? Men overestimate themselves you still beleive your wallet will get you somewhere. Its your looks now homie that count.

[Scared_Banana]

I lol'd @ independent.

[somebodysaycheese]

@Scared_Banana still living at home bro?

[cccp777]

PURE GARBAGE! The data strongly suggest that past 30 or so the preferences that women that women reveal are "oriented" around status and financial success.

[Scared_Banana]

Because guys made them that way by putting them on a pedestal. Most of them are completely average looking and have nothing to offer besides their pussy yet have ridiculous standards when it comes to dating.

[Asker]

Yes, indeed.

[Scared_Banana]

Why women overrate themselves.
Veronica: Why do you have to be such a mega-bitch?
Heather #1: Because I can be.

Most men understand it when the most attractive women consider themselves too good for the average joe. Because, in short, they are, and few men have much of a problem with that. Where men get confused and irritated is when a woman who is manifestly NOT too good for them by any reasonable objective metric acts as if she genuinely believes that she is. The reason is exactly as Occam's Razor suggests. She does. And here's why.

Women have a strong preference to date and mate up. Men, on the other hand, are much more inclined to date broad-spectrum and mate down. And while most men understand that the definition of "up" varies according to sex - men placing extra value on looks and sexual history, women placing emphasis on social status and wealth - they don't understand the logical consequences of women dating up and men dating down.

[Scared_Banana]

And these Consequences are further exacerbated by men generally being the pursuers and women the pursued.

Look at it this way. A woman who manages to attract the passing attention of a higher-status man, even if she does so through taking the role of the pursuer, is quite reasonably, if incorrectly, inclined to consider herself worthy of the attentions of higher status men in the future despite the declining marginal utility of her youth and sexual history. This is why a woman will always identify her status by the football star, the surgeon, or the singer in the band with whom she once spent a few hours rather than by the nondescript fellow who was her boyfriend for several years, regardless of how long ago it was. Roissy had an amusing post about a woman who had dated Anthony Kiedis a long time ago and actually carried around pictures of them in order to show them to people she had just met.

[Scared_Banana]

This creates an essentially Austrian problem of false signals leading to malinvestment. Because women do not distinguish between the quantity of male attention and the quality, the conflation encourages them to a) overrate their own attractiveness, and, b) invest their time and attention in men who are not likely to have any interest in them beyond the immediate term. So, the female 6 considers herself an 8 by virtue of the times that a male 9 decided that she was the best available at the moment, and quite logically feels insulted when she is approached by a male 5 or 6. Meanwhile, the male 6 is standing there in astonishment, staring at what he believes is quite clearly an appropriate counterpart and wondering who in the world she thinks she is.

What this means is that thanks to modern hook-up culture, the average woman now tends to consider herself a 7 or 8 rather than a 5, which is one of the many social factors that make it hard for her to eventually "settle".

[cccp777]

Sounds like Vox Popoli!

[VomitV]

Feminism. It teaches even the fattest, ugliest heifers of the female sex that they deserve a perfect partner, and that guys need to quit having "unrealistic" perceptions of women, making them settle for said heifers.

Irony much?

[Asker]

Hahahaha!!!

And how about the new trend trying to convince us that "fat women are sexy,"...

Yea, that's what I want... A triple bypass waiting to happen.

[VomitV]

Even worse are the cucks that defend the "fat acceptance" garbage, saying it's a lifestyle choice and not unhealthy and bullshit. Not that they'd ever date a fatty themselves anyway, but they're just helping to propagate that cancer.

[Asker]

Exactly.

[Crimson79]

I’ve seen men who were butt ugly and work at 711who act entitled to, and pursue women way out of their league. I’ve had some approach me too! I much rather be alone than with any of those guys. 🤢🤮

[PurpleTeardrops2]

I mean I guess it's due to the attention they receive due to their looks and that gives some of them a superiority complex.

[Asker]

Exactly. Even if their looks are just average.

[ShaeNielson]

And I suppose you're just a nice guy who have been stepped on by vile women?

[Asker]

I'm not nice at all. I'm downright sadistic.

[ShaeNielson]

Then you've got nothing to complain about.

[Asker]

Me being nice or not has nothing to do with the question.

[LeFrogDog]

That is weird most of the girls I talked think that they are not good enough or have a lot of insecurities.

[Bandit74]

Because of how desperate men put them on a pedestal and inflate their egos.

[Asker]

Bingo

[Maxemeister]

Girls may respond badly but it's actually true. They overvalue themselves and in the process men undervalue themselves.

[Asker]

Yea but not all men are worth something. Some are drug addicts, pedophiles, etc.

A lot of them are just plain lazy and their dick doesn't work to save their life.

So maybe girls think they are "above," these type of "men," and this causes them to think they are worth more than all of them.

[uhhihello]

It's funny because usually the ugly ones act like that

[Asker]

No, hot girls with no real life skills

[Asker]

Not in my experience.

[Joesyyyywhales]

Cause of beta white knights telling them they're beautiful when they're not

[Asker]

Exactly

[LaVilaine]

I don't think that's a solely female problem.

[Asker]

Which didn't answer the question.

[LaVilaine]

Why does anyone think they're valuable when in favt they are not? Ego, generally. That's why the serial killer potato thinks he's hot shit.

[Asker]

Who is serial killer potato?

[LaVilaine]

Can't say his name but he's one of the extra ugly miscers.

[Karōshi]

Dudes reap what they sow, girls are taught it's all they need.

[TacosRAwesome]

Experience , either their own or of other women of similar value.

[D2X_ANYA_IS_INSANE]

they don't realize guys on tinder are super fucking shotgunners

[Asker]

What is a shotgunner?

[D2X_ANYA_IS_INSANE]

like they just say yes to everyone

[lovely_lola]

Most girls underestimate themselves, the ones that I've met.

[anonman32]

does it matter? just let them think they do.

[Asker]

It upsets the balance of what society should be. It's one of the plagues of the United States. I haven't spent much time in other countries.

[anonman32]

you know the ego is the self, if one values oneself more than what value one has that means that they overestimate their ego. overestimation of giving oneself more credit than one has. in other words they inflate their self or their ego. you dont want to have anything to do with these people because thats a trait of being a manipulator or a control freak.

[TonyRyanAgain]

Cuz betas let them do whatever they want, obvz.

[Usernameisnttaken1]

Do you think guys don't do the same thing?

[Anonymous]

Who cares what they do? Fuck them...