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Because lying is literally in a woman's DNA. Women get mad whenever I post this. This isn't meant as an insult but it's an absolute FACT. Women actually believe they're being honest most of the time when they're lying man. They don't see it as lying to them it's "indirect communication". Most decent women the last thing they want is to reject you (unless your asking them out insults them somehow) so they come up with a million and 1 ways to suggest they're not interested without actually telling you "no". I know it's hard especially if you're an honest guy. But you just have to accept all women lie.
I been around a bit and I've learned a bit and let me help.
If a woman responds to being asked out with anything other then an enthusiastic yes then it's a "no". Good luck man.
That's some red pill stuff right there. Ill look more into it
No dude no pills at all here. The important thing to remember is women don't think like guys it's not malicious. It's quite the opposite. Yes some of it is all preservation on their part because some guys get angry. The reality is all guys get angry being rejected but some show it and some man up and walk away.
You get mho man
It’s not red pill; it’s ocean personality assessment and biological psychology.
Another reason why they might not say they aren't interested is because you might be of some use to her. An interested guy that thinks he still has a chance, is more likely to provide her with assistance in a time of need.
Key to note that a lot of guys dont understand the concept of no
@OliviaOfTheScots women essentially never say no. And while some guys might not understand no, a heck of a lot more dont understand when y'all say "yes but im busy ask me next week" we will assume that means to ask you next week. If you hope we will forget and then leave you alone you just plain dumb.
@Truthatanycost agreed man but my post was written with the assumption she wasn't a parasite. Lol
If that was that case of just saying no then I think most people would in a safe environment, I've done it a few times when I guy persists in knowing every facet of why I've said no.
Can have a proper chat about how much we have to dance around what we say and do
@OliviaOfTheScots see I hate the fact that some guys do that. Because then it gives women the power to come on here and proclaim that as though it was the norm. I'm sure you're aware that rejection hurts. But let me clue you in to this we are bound by gender roles. Men aren't allowed to cry and walk away when they get rejected like women. The only masculine emotion in that situation is anger. But you're no man if you lay into a woman verbally because she rejected you. So what is the only option. You're angry but you swallow it and walk away.
Yes you walk away and swallow it.
Rejection sucks we knew that, I'm also conscious of the fact guys get a lot of shit so more often than not I let a guy down as easy as I can so again a lot of it depends on the situation.
And you're allowed to just walk away, has jack all to do with gender roles and no you shouldn't lay into anyone over being rejected
We get complaints for being shallow if we're honest, leading a guy on if we're nice to a guy, told we're "keeping a guy around for attention" because we tell a guy no to dating but would like to remain friends so how can we "win"
@OliviaOfTheScots OK first of all you " letting a guy down" is like a screen door on a submarine. I know you think you're doing something noble. But if anything YOU'RE part of the problem. You send the guy mixed signals just rip the band aid off and be done with it. It might be your fault to begin with MIGHT I say. Guys generally don't ask women at random. If he asked you out it's probably because he detected a signal from you. And as for your last point if is if you have no interest in the guy why do you care what he thinks of you. I gave up caring what your entire gender thinks of me long ago. 😀
I say letting a guy down in the idea that I can genuinely thing a guy is sweet but I'm just not physically attracted to him.
And that "signal" can range from just being polite to a guy to him seeing analyzing something as flirting, sometimes it's our fault sometimes its guys for reading into something thats not there.
Depending on the situation and whether we care what people think about us
@OliviaOfTheScots I'm kinda late as i haven't been on here in a bit but at this point, i don't trust women & probably never will again. I respect women but I'll never trust them.
Because if they do that men will move on to someone else and deprive them from their additional attention drugs. That's something women cannot allow. The struggle for attention is eternal and the competition is tough.
FACTS, but if I ever get rejected again with out the girl being direct about it she is ending up in my basement. If she is direct about no problem. Just really sick of hearing you're so nice, you will find someone. Maybe someday but now etc. Just say no and move on If she don't want me I don't need her but she doesn't have to be a bitch a bout it trying to sugarcode it and end up hurting my feelings more. They know what they are doing
Damn that sucks but i have to agree
@friendzoned4life, what's wrong with you, they are literally being polite to you. You can't handle rejection and it's on you and I see why they don't want you. How is that indirect, they don't let you wonder, they still reject you and you still know they reject you. Would you rather being told "I'm not interested in you, you're ugly, broke, and have as much personality as a toaster". Just take the rejection and move out, women are necessary for you to stay alive, just get a dog or something they'll love you unconditionally.
Yes I would rather be told is because I look a drowned cat or something.
And there is nothing wrong with me Just sick of hearing your nice but... and then continue to treat me like I am their boyfriend but only the boring parts.
While they go date some asshole that physically beats them.
And the sugarcoding always ends with a maybe later
@CuteLingsAppreciator another dumb slut polluting my opinion
@CuteLingsAppreciator It's funny how you always go to the extremes in both your own comment and also here. How about a simple "I'm sorry, I'm not interested, I'm sure you will find the right girl for you" instead of flat out insulting the dude during the rejection? Not only are you being polite, but you're also being direct. No guy with a reasonable amount of self-respect would want mixed signals or to be dragged along just for free attention/validation (something that happens A LOT). Your comments are full of strawman arguments. Come back when you have valid arguments to give that don't include any logical fallacies.
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I was at the market minding my business. A guy approached me and started chatting with me. I was polite because I thought he was just wanting to discuss picking the best fruit but he then mentioned that I was cute and he wanted my number. So I said to him, I was very flattered, but I had a boyfriend, and then I thanked him for his interest. This guy literally then called me a liar, and a bitch, and walked off.
Straight forward and honest does not always work! Because they've made the effort, some guys only want to hear yes and that you are nothing but open to their advances even if you are completely unavailable or uninterested which is your prerogative to be. And unfortunately on the other end, women are largely taught to be almost overly polite. We often say sorry way too much, we're told we have to smile, blah, blah, so sometimes its a case of not trying to hurt a guys feelings to say they'll think about it, or they accept a phone number even though they know they'll never call.
Is it wrong that ill never trust women because of this? I'm a man and i know how to handle rejection & respect a no. And it's dumb af that guys can't just accept a no and move on. Like stop being a little bitch because she told you no and just move on. Learn how to take a no and move on. But noe because of that i don't think i can trust women
Because most men can’t take no for an answer and they harass the shit out of them , by thinking they can make her change her mind , it’s her defense mechanism , she doesn’t want to be rude about it but she also doesn’t want to deal with the drama of it either , Some guys turn vicious when they are turned down and she is scared for her life cuz she doesn’t know how psycho the guy could get, So bottom line yes it sucks to be turned down from someone we really like or interested in But when you get denied in a nice way , it’s a better chance you will leave them alone and respect their decision, she is being respectful by not giving a straight answer , Guys do the same shit to girls as well , If a girl is coming on to me and I am not interested in her , I am not rude about it , I just tell her , I’m flattered but I’m sorry I am seeing someone but thank you for showing interest in me , and then I throw a joke in their , Inwill say I don’t know why. But thank you 😆Whether I am telling her the truth or not , out of respect it’s better to deny someone nicely instead of rudely , People that deny people rudely are heartless people , We don’t walk around with signs flashing over our heads showing what we are into or what we are attracted to or what are relationship status is at that current moment. Even if you don’t find that person attractive and not your type you should still deny them nicely out of respect. People that are blunt and straight forward to me are assholes , when someone thinks their shit doesn’t stink , they really need a wake up call
A woman says "I'm not interested" and a man shoots her in the leg:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/world/2021/4/18/1_5392256.html
These 14 women say "I'm not interested" and are all attacked, some even being killed:
https://www.mic.com/articles/135394/14-women-were-brutally-attacked-for-rejecting-men-why-arent-we-talking-about-it
A woman says says "I'm not interested" and is beaten and robbed by a group of men:
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/video/5216760-police-woman-attacked-robbed-after-rejecting-mens-advances
A woman says "I'm not interested" and a man hits her in the head with a hammer:
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-28/singaporean-man-allegedly-attacked-former-girlfriend-with-hammer/11262592
These incidents are common enough that they have a name: rejection attacks/ rejection killings. Women have no way of knowing which men will accept "I'm not interested" gracefully, and which ones will become violent. That's why they aren't always upfront when they turn a man down. Because it could get them killed
Fair enough. I just won't trust any women and just focus on other things in life
That was super not the intended takeaway from what I said, but if that's ehat you wanna gl with, cool
Okay 👍
I'll parrot everyone else here and say it's because they're conflict-avoidant and fear of what might happen if they are outright honest. They never really know what kind of guy they're talking to. Just like you never really know what kind of woman you're talking to. She could be the psychotic, emotionally-baggeged kind, just like he could be the aggressive, stalker, doesn't-take-no-for-an-answer kind. So it's prudent to be cautious.
That being said, a lot of this aggressive behaviour from some guys is due to the difference in dating realities between men and women that I don't think a lot of women really appreciate. Dating for a lot of women is like a buffet where the food comes to you. You can choose to accept or dismiss it whenever you want and you rarely have a shortage to choose from. For men, they got to go out there and hunt or they starve. And constantly being rejected means there's a lot of guys starving out there. I'm sure everyone knows what it's like to be hangry. A person with a lot of options doesn't really care about the odd rejection here and there, but a person who experiences it more often than not will let it get to them. They become more emotionally involved because they don't know when they'll get another opportunity. When a women gets rejected, she can just go back to the buffet but when a guy gets rejected, he's going home on an empty stomach. I'm not sure a lot of women understand the disparity in the dating realities.
Because so many guys take it too harshly and end up making an ass of themselves, insulting and threatening (and even becoming violent sometimes). If every little boy wearing a man-suit would realise that every woman isn't going to fall all over themselves for them, and accept "I'm not interested" as a perfectly valid reason for not going out with them, women wouldn't have to lie to stay safe.
I'm apparently attractive to women (I don't agree, but that's beside the point). I have to reject women all the time because I'm in a relationship. I've seen women get just as shitty, so don't think I'm saying this as some kind of simp or white knight. People in general just need to get some perspective and understand that another person not being interested isn't a gut-shot insult, and also that reacting badly to rejection makes you so unattractive that you're ruining other chances as well. I can't tell you how many dates I've gotten after accepting rejection with a gracious smile and a compliment. Sometimes she's changed her mind and came back for another chance, and sometimes another woman sees it as an ice breaker:
Her: "Looks like you got shot down over there"
Me: "Yeah, no big deal though"
Her: "No big deal? Really?"
Me: "Of course. I don't expect every woman to like me"
Her: "Looks like she doesn't know what's good"
^ and in that particular case, I ended up dating a chick who was hotter than the other. Cool, calm, classy, and realistic are huge turn-ons to women.
I'm going with the unpopular opinion : they fear for their safety.
I know a bunch of women who have been stalked physically and virtually. Some would even receive threats, to the point of getting killed.
There are men who can take no for an answer, but it's a scary world to live in as a woman, so they can't take a chance.
Depends. Are you talking about a guy who is direct about letting a woman know he's into her? You know instead of just being friendly and flirting? Like actually asking her out? If we women aren't careful we get called a bitch because we made assumptions if we say we aren't interested. I've had a few get mad and say, I wasn't even asking geez!
If men think I'm beating around the bush because I don't say I'm not interested when they flirt with me, well I'm sorry but I'm done making assumptions and I can flirt to just be friendly and build each other up no problem. I also make guy friends so if someone is interested they are literally going to have to spell it out for me. I'm a direct person and I respect it in return.
Now if men are direct then yeah I have no problem saying no thank you. If they get mad that's on them. So I agree in this instance then yes there is no reason not to just say no.
I Mostly get feels for women I get in a friendship with first. So when I like them I will be direct about it.
And getting No from that one Girl was a lot easier to handle then the rejections with you're a nice guy but...
Glad to see some girl understands
Yep, I mostly got those confusion rejections until the point i needed therapy
A bit I got bullied a lot before I started dating , and next too getting rejected by Girls I also kept getting rejected for Jobs.
But actual help came from a book I am currently reading the part 2 of that book.
Still can't handle when someone rejects me in the indirect way tho.
It's Just really confusing but good news is is I am a lot less depressed sometimes still have a drawback but that's it
Still single as fuck tho
I'm glad that it helped even a little. What book helped?
Maybe when that happens.. just see it as a straight rejection and move on. You owe it to yourself not to have to deal with that type of behavior. If they are truly interested they will make it known.
😂😂 sorry it's not really funny.. I just felt that!
12 rules for life: an antidote to chaos by Jordan by peterson (all modern feminists gonna be triggered now) it uses biology from other animals and philosophy to make things seem more logical wich makes it easier to comprehend bullshit.
Currently reading beyond order:12 more rules for life, until now I feel like it is more focused on standing up for yourself and when you are not with someone how to make the loneliness your strength instead of your issue.
Only his book maps of. meaning I Just can't get trough it's really complex cause tries to bring logic in to beliefs but also good book.
The guy that wrote these has dealt with depression a lot as victim of it and as clinical psychologist
I am obeying the first 12 rules as much as possible, gives me a lot of stress reduction
Some things u must take literall as well as figuratively
some are so selfish they dont feel being honest matters and it does. i think some woman also string guys along with some situations, like dont wanna say hey im not interested because then they can always have you as a backup plan for anything. i had a guy say he liked me after time of just being acquaintances, i said i was not interested i had someone in the next breath that same conversation and in person, he was disappointed but, i dont play with peoples emotions.
i am upfront as the situation unfolds, life is so much easier that way and this way someone doesn't get their hopes up. but it is not all woman a lot of woman are like that but not all of us are, have faith brother
See you got 2 dislikes from doing the right thing and speaking the truth this would have made it so much easier to walk away from the girl or actually make a friendship instead work
I don't think ignorance is bliss in this one. Cause if they don't find out the truth before lets say 22 they will be the ones that have multiple Kids from multiple fathers and still have ended up alone
Offcourse sometimes relationships Just don't work out but I think the majority of those is these ignorant girls
nice to see a female actually give a thoughtful response, obviously you said not all woman are like that so you must have offened the two girls that are like that lol
Holy shit. A woman that has an unpopular opinion i can agree with
For safety mainly.
we had one of our social group turn down this guy, he then got all stalker like, started being outside her work, he was in same pub as us etc.
We had to dissuade him forcefully.
I honestly do not know why but for some reason guys become all delicate when a girl rejects them, it’s like hardly the end of the world.
I don’t think many guys I know really care overly if we burn it, you simply put it down to experience and move on.
what you really do not do is start blaming girls, not everyone is compatible, we bomb out now and then it’s called life.
No one likes being rejected. It is an uncomfortable thing to do for both parties. If a man approached me and I could spare his feelings by telling a little white lie AND get the message across why should I be brutally honest instead and have a negative impact on his self esteem? An excuse such as "I'm flattered, but I have a boyfriend." will sting less than saying "I'm not attracted to you. You aren't my type." Trust me, I've been in both scenarios and judging by the looks on their faces it offended them. Women do this in good faith and are being sensitive to the other person's feelings.
Lying isn't being nice though. And just hypothetical, but what if that lie is exposed and the guy confronts you about that? But yeah i actually prefer a brutal rejection over sweet lie. Lies hurt more and if a girl rejects me honestly, i actually thank you and tell her that i appreciate the fact she can be straight up and not bullshit. And at this point, if girls lie all the time, it just isn't worth it to keep on pursuing them & trust whatever they tell me
@Mika1999 I dont know about all that. They hide behind their friends though and mind you a guy doesn't have to crazy but women will avoid confrontation at all cost even for the littlest things
Why does it matter? If she isn't interested in you, move on. You don't have to know the reason. Stop crying about it and over analyzing why. It really does not matter. She doesn't owe you, as a random guy hitting on her, an explanation. She isn't interested, move on. That's all you need to know. End of story.
And this is why a lot of guys don't trust women. If you can't be honest over little things like a rejection, i can only imagine how much big fat lies women tell over really important things too. It's in their nature and DNA i guess. Lying for survival
I don't give a fuck if i get rejected. It's the lying that's annoying ad fuck
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They can't because a lot of men don't handle rejection well. They become angry and threatening. When a woman is approached by a man she doesn't know well and doesn't want to know better, the safest thing for her is to give him some external reason she can't date him. "Thanks, but I'm not looking for a relationship" really means "I'm not looking for a relationship WITH YOU". "Thanks, but I'm seeing someone" may mean "I'm seeing my sister tomorrow. I'm not seeing YOU."
Men with a clue understand that there are only two answers: yes and no. If a woman turns them down, they just move on.
We don't do that because we either:
1) want to be polite & make sure us rejecting you doesn't hurt your self esteem. Like imagine if you hit on a girl and she just said "no, sorry", you'd probs think something's wrong with you and i guess we don't want that?
2) don't want to piss you off or get a bad reaction. because yea, guys do sometimes react badly to being turned down. So you have to give them excuses so they're chill
3) want to avoid you pushing, insisting, or becoming forceful. A lot of guys will push when you turn them down, even with good excuses, so imagine if you just said 'no'
1. But we need to know what's wrong with us. Because otherwise how will we know how to fix it?
Just because someone isn't interested in you doesn't mean you assume there is anything wrong with you. You have to understand that you aren't for everyone and not everyone is for you. I get how it can be annoying when a women isn't blunt, but there are some men get become violent after being rejected. You really can't blame them. If you actually care enough to pay attention, you'll know when someone isn't interested even if they don't directly say so.
@sirderpsalot123 Exactly!
Id rather hear truth which is reality than a sweet lie which is fallacy
And she'd rather not risk being assaulted. You want to know what's wrong with you? The fact that several people have already explained that women are fearful of being honest and direct because there are men out there who will become violent if they feel disrespected. Your feelings are not more important then her feelings. This grown man beat the fuck out of my 18 year old sister because she declined this strange man's offer to pay for her food. So stop crying because you're oblivious to body language and can't figure out why you suck.
@sirderpsalot123 To an extent i feel like a lot of women just use that as a cop out because they don't want to be straight up and lying is easier.
I feel like you're an idiot and you're probably going to die alone. I'm sure if women were physically superior they would have no problem letting you know how much of a prick you really are. Scumbag.
@sirderpsalot123 I mean i dont want to act like blue pilled mangina either and put them on a pedestal
I'm not putting anyone on a pedestal, including myself. A women does not have to put her safety in jeopardy just to spare my feelings. You're a fucking clown and I'm done with you. Here's your chance to get the last word in you winey insecure manbaby
@sirderpsalot123 Dude, relax. He was just expressing his feelings. You don't have to be so mean.
I am very sorry about what happened to your sister, but he isn't the one that did that. 😥
I'm mean? This man is trying to make women feel guilty for doing what they can to prevent to being assaulted but I'm mean? Lmfaoo ok bud. And I tried to be nice about it, but he still disregarded everything I said to him. He's crying because women aren't straight up with him. I'm being straight up with him and letting him know that he's a scumbag. I'm also letting you know that you are also a scumbag. If a women told a guy to fuck off and was attacked, you'd still probably blame the girl for it. The problem isn't them not being honest or them being "rude" the problem is that some men feel that they are entitled to women. If a girl isn't giving you the same energy, she's not into you. Move on with your life.
@sirderpsalot123 Yeah im being the asshole but i just don't care. If women don't want to be honest and feel like they have to lie all the time, i just won't trust their words anymore and move on to other things in life
I'm sure these women are devastated they are missing out on such a great guy 😂
@sirderpsalot123 I don't expect women to care though lmao. It's a relief for me too
Then wtf are you crying about lol. Really made this whole post because "it's a relief" for you. You're unbelievably cringey. It's not even funny anymore
@sirderpsalot123? So I'm a scumbag now? What the hell did I do? 😱
"I'm sure these women are devastated they are missing out on such a great guy"
@sirderpsalot123. You're an asshole. You tell him to move on, he agrees to move on, and then you gaslight him.
You are the problem, man!
@sirderpsalot123 Because i wanted to know why girls can't just be straight up dipshit
You're a scumbag for sliding with a scumbag. Acting like women are overreacting about something that is very real. " I don't have to worry about it so it isn't a problem." Keep telling on yourself.
Asker SEVERAL women have already explained this to you and you disregarded it because you feel it's not good enough lmao
@sirderpsalot123 They can learn how to shoot guns. Buy a little 9mm handgun and learn to defend themselves
You do know shooting someone, even when justified would be traumatic, right? I'm not against more women carrying, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't continue to avoid upsetting men in case they are crazy. Again, you aren't important enough to risk being assaulted. I don't know what chemical in your brain makes you think otherwise. You wanted an answer to your question, you got one. You don't get to tell them that their answer is wrong. You don't get to invalidate an issue that actually happens a lot. But I'm bored of this. You don't seem like a reasonable person and so this is pointless. You won't get it.
@sirderpsalot123 I encourage people to learn how to defend themselves against crazy people. That includes guys that can't handle rejection and act like dumbasses afterward. I get it though mr blue pilled
So, women are expected to potentially put themselves in a dangerous situation, potentially have to shoot someone and then spend the next several years in therapy to get over that just so you don't get upset lmaoo again I'll say I'm sure women are devastated that you are losing interest in them lol.
@sirderpsalot123 I guess all the million of gun owners that defend themselves from dumbasses, go through some kind of traumatic effect even though you were defending yourself against a crazy person. It's either you or them. If you're not willing to pull that trigger to defend yourself, then a crazy person will do something bad to you. What other rebuttals do you have mr blue pill?
I know two people who have had to shoot someone, one killing the intruder, and it messed him up for awhile. Normal people don't enjoy having to kill someone and would rather avoid doing so. You really want me to acknowledge your corny weak "mr blue pill" shit, so I'll do that real quick and let you think you actually did something lol. Tag me again when you can actually put together any sort of compelling argument.
You somehow got me all figured out because you don't even have the self awareness to figure out why women don't want you😂
@sirderpsalot123 Women being attacked and assaulted happens a lot less than they make it out to be. Now yes there are men out there that are babies that don't know how to handle a no and act stupid. But girls and dudes like you make it out to look like all dudes assault women for saying no. To an extent i do feel like a lot of people had behind the idea that all men will attack you for saying no and it's more convenient to just lie instead of having to be straight up even when the dude presents no danger.
I have no problem with rejection and actually prefer straight up rejection. But if you lie, then it gets annoying
How are they supposed to just know what kind of guy you are? That's the issue. Women are mean as fuck to each other. They have no problem being mean, they are just afraid of men. Even if a guy swears up and down he won't get mad, the second she says something he doesn't his behavior COULD change. The fact that it happens at all is why they aren't going to chance it. And like I said, if you pay attention to body language you'll have a better understanding if they fuck with you or not. They really don't owe you an explanation. If I go up to a girl, and she's being short with me and looking at her phone the whole time she's clearly not interested. But really I'm done blowing up this girls shit now lmao. It's like I'm talking to a brick wall anyway.
@sirderpsalot123 And we can't always tell though from their body language. Some girls even gaslight you and make you look like the bad guy. I don't even fully blame women for this. I also blame society for conditioning women to behave a certain way
Same way men lie to get what they want. You’re making a double standard and using women as a oxymoron. Men and women lie I’ve come to this conclusion- I’m a part of the LGTBQ community and I know how women are entirely. There are real people out here, but my thing is these same people who expect you to keep it real can’t be real themselves. This is why I don’t do any majorly investing in a person until they prove themselves to me and even still can they match my standards. So if their actions and words don’t match don’t waste your time.. same for me. I recently friend zoned someone that lied to me and I’m waiting on her to actually come clean about the lie..
Because it can be potentially dangerous. See: women murdered by men they rejected. Also, it's called being polite. However, I do not care for my own safety, so I just straight up reject guys I'm not interested in and it usually ends with them threatening my safety.
Are you American?
I'm Canadian. also @CasaNorba, It is women's reality everywhere, do you want sources cited in APA 6th edition format?
Men can and do murder women who reject their advances, other women are clearly smarter than me for beating around the bush and being polite and not flat our rejecting those men, they are less likely to be threatened.
Sources:
Statistics: CDC (2017) Homicide of adult women, at: https:// www. cdc. gov /mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6628a1. htm.
Concrete examples: Kutner, J (2016) These 14 Women Were Brutally Attacked for Rejecting Men — Why Aren't We Talking About It?
Compilation of women killed after rejecting men, with sources attached to every post: http:// whenwomenrefuse. tumblr. com/
See also: Stratmoen, E., Greer, M. M., Martens, A. L., & Saucier, D. A. (2018). What, I′m not good enough for you? Individual differences in masculine honor beliefs and the endorsement of aggressive responses to romantic rejection. Personality and Individual Differences, 123, 151–162
Addition: Baumeister, R. F., Dhavale, D. (2001). Two sides of romantic rejection. In Leary, M. R. (Ed.), Interpersonal rejection (pp. 55–71). New York, NY: Oxford University Press.
Addition: Bushman, B. J., Baumeister, R. F. (1998). Threatened egotism, narcissism, self-esteem, and direct and displaced aggression: Does self-love or self-hate lead to violence? Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 75, 219–229.
Now, are you able to redirect me to statistics that consolidates your ideas? I'm willing to see your point if you can properly argue and prove that it is not a possibility.
@CuteLingsAppreciator I guess this means that I'm gonna stop taking a shower if I read some statistics on how a few people have slipped and bust their asses in the shower.
Dang if you were American, you could buy a 9mm handgun and learn how to shoot
@CasaNorba I can agree that i think a lot of women over exaggerate and use the whole i reject him and he'll kill me as an excuse just to not be honest because it's a lot easier to lie and more convenient
@CasaNorba, a few? There are hundreds of studies on it, hundreds of statistics that are way higher than the number of people who died after getting out of the shower. Also, you are equating men to showering, showering is literally necessary for our health and our lives, men are not. Have you consulted the statistics? It seems that you are just purposefully understating the dangers of rejecting men. also, @asker, no one is saying that all the men will threaten or kill us, just saying that it's a risk that we are not willing to take, the same way people won't put run on an oiled and slippery surface to prevent injury. 80% of men self-reported feeling anger, and 62% have self-reported involved in one of the studies I cited have reported to respond with aggression to rejection. I guess 62% is too low for you, also 45% of marital murder are due to rejection from the women. A 2014 study by the Australi Institute found that 25% of women when threatened after rejecting a man. How many more women should be threatened and assaulted after rejection for you to not minimize the risk?
The worst is that I base everything I said on data, statistics and studies that can easily be found online (although they take time to read), while you two only base yourself on emotion and abstract notions.
“showering is literally necessary for our health and our lives, men are not”
I hope you don’t eat those words 10 years from now when you’re hit 30 when your biological clock starts ticking and then feel like starting a family. But yeah if anything keep believing all the studies you feel like believing and feeding your fearful and delusional perceptions on the world. 😂😂😂😂 if all men were psychos then dating wouldn’t be as common as it has been.
Till then I bet you also believe that so called STATISTIC made in Singapore back in 2009 claiming that people who drink more than 2 cups of soda a week have an 87% of developing pancreatic cancer
Well it ain't worth it to approach anymore if you girls will lie all the time
exactly @asker! women will always lie without limits unless they know that what they say won't cause any repercussions. I also love how she is assuming that her reasons are true just because there are STATISTICS on what she said but doesn't bring actual personal experiences to the table. like seriously is it really that hard to assume that statistics are not always 100%? how do we know those statistics aren't funded by feminists or other "all men are the devil" type of advocate
@CuteLingsAppreciator You make it sound like anyone who approaches a woman is a potential killer. Sure there are many creeps out there. Hence why it's important to make sure as a woman, you take precautions to lessen the odds of getting approached by one. Starting with the way you dress (as an example). Dress like a prosititue and you'll get a bunch of creeps flocking to you. Also, making sure not to be out at night on your own is also a wise decision not to get into trouble.
To educate you on another matter, often women who do the rejection follow it wiht "we can be friends". Translation: "I don't want to fuck you, but I want to use you for free attention/validation to boost my ego."
There are far more car or street accidents in the world than women getting killed because they rejected a dude who approached them. Does that mean I should stop getting out of the house or stop getting in a car? Which leads me to my next point: Women who often get in danger are the same ones who lead that dude on for a period of time only to reject him later down the line. The odds of being murdered by rejecting the stranger there and then is far lesser than exchanging contact information, hanging out and reject later on when he feels like he invested.
Argue with the statistics then, also, it's not about murder only as it was only an example of the most extreme manifestations, although it is a possibility. Most often it's insults and threats which is better than being dead. Doesn't change the fact that many women would rather not be exposed to that.
@CadaNorba, "biological clock", anyways I'm attracted to women and there are a wonderful subtype called trans women who could potentially be involved in pregnancy if I do not get a hysterectomy. I used statistics because I know my experiences aren't universal and prefer to have objective measures to corroborate them, also I did share my personal experience with men in the very first reply. You'd rather believe your delusional preconceptions of women rather than to see our reality. Nobody is saying all men are psycho and to pretend I did is intellectually dishonest and a gross strawman, I simply stated that 62% of men have reported to respond with aggression when rejected. If you can't read a study, or refuse to take the time to understand their methodology, just say that.
@Asker, you asked why women didn't outright voice their rejection. Many women answered. Your question wasn't genuine if all you will be doing is accusing us of being liars. Men like you not approaching women is far from being a punishment, you're not a prize.
first off you gotta spell my s/n correctly if you want me to read your responses. talk about "if you can't read"
"anyways I'm attracted to women and there are a wonderful subtype called trans women who could potentially be involved in pregnancy if I do not get a hysterectomy. "
so you're a lesbian, why am I not surprised that not only do you not know shit about men and how we react to things but also assume that we are all the devil. till then I hope your kids dont grow up to be violent psychos themselves growing up all confused knowing that their parents are a lesbian and a tranny; that's if you two succeed at starting a family of course cause a lot of trannies do remove their reproductive system in order to avoid producing the hormones that make them their actual birth gender.
". I used statistics because I know my experiences aren't universal and prefer to have objective measures to corroborate them, "
something tells me you used statistics because you have no experience of your own, otherwise you would realize how irrational those statistics sound.
"You'd rather believe your delusional preconceptions of women rather than to see our reality. "
you're one to talk miss I'm a lesbian and have 0% experience with men so I must find any irrational statistics out there to proof my point
"Nobody is saying all men are psycho and to pretend I did is intellectually dishonest and a gross strawman"
is that the main reason why you brought up your hyped up statistics in the first place?
"I simply stated that 62% of men have reported to respond with aggression when rejected."
again I highly doubt that's 62% of the men in the world. there is no way those people you brought up in your statistics have the time and the money to study ALL MEN IN THE WORLD
I just don't trust women to ever tell me the truth.
Learn this.
They are untrustworthy.
Doesn't want to take responsibility of what they do/create.
(ignorance is a bliz)
Think they are entitled.
Want others shall bend to them.
Blame others to hide.
Make up exuses to justify.
With other words.
They are immatur.
Have low developed social/communication/understing others skills.
Overgrown children.
It's a choice they have made to be.
(Also learn that there are rare exceptions)
Some red pill knowledge
So woman don’t straight up reject men because they are entitled and immature, and has nothing to do with the fact that some men will harass, insult, degrade, threaten and even harm a woman for rejecting him.
Tell me again how woman are the immature ones?
@OrallyFixated Learn how to shoot guns. Defend yourself against pussies that don't know how to handle a no
God forbid men should learn not to victimize woman.
Must be too mature for something like that, huh?
@OrallyFixated We're evil. I know
Thankfully, you can only speak for yourself.
@OrallyFixated I was being sarcastic. a lot of women think we're evil
@OrallyFixated
I understand why you think that way.
The twisting technique doesn't get you anywhere here.
Very simple math.
If you can't comunicate in a proper way that makes you understud in a way you want the other one to perceive you massage your lacking communication skills with that kind of person.
(you always have exceptions that are manipulative that actually did understand but tries to get something else out of it. just like you tried to do now... )
What the hell are you trying to say? That if a man gets aggressive after being turned down, it’s because the woman didn’t communicate properly?
Did I read the right?
Lol@ it’s simple math?
What equation brought you to that conclusion.
To all the Girls saying it is to avoid hurting us more than necessary or we can't handle the rejection it is beating around the bush and not being upfront about not wanting us what is making it difficult to handle rejection cause we are never sure u really don't want us or wanna keep us around until its time wich is even worse.
I think if you can't reject a guy directly u should not be allowed to date.
This playing games bullshit is exactly why I gave up on dating
I feel like giving up too. All this lying shit or beating around the bush just isn't worth it to keep trying
Well its been 8 days since I gave up I waited till the gyms opened overhere and build myself a schedule of 7 days of working out a week, trying to gain weight that kinda means I have to spend the rest of my time eating and resting/going to work.
I Gave up and made sure I don't have time for dating too.
I am 26 now as soon I hitted puberty I wanted one girl for the rest of my life.
Got cheated on by the first
Got replaced at date night by number 2 and yeah date number 3 we don't talk about her but she ghosted me after making sure I knew it was a good date.
So do yourself a favor If you feel like giving up on dating do it
It doesn't mean you have to be alone for the rest of your life but you can make sure u will never care about a girl again unless she is your girlfriend.
I tried that.
I was followed, begged to reconsider, harassed, and made to feel so uncomfortable whenever I was around him that I stopping going places I knew he would be. I also had a friendship ruined because he wanted more and I didn’t.
You want honesty, which is totally understandable, who doesn’t. But we woman take a risk being honest with some men, because they can’t handle honesty.
So what do you suggest for us when we have no idea how he’ll react and if it will fuck up our lives just for being honest?
It isn't that.
The little bits of attention she already got as a teenager. As she did with flirting and even adventures, if that is her upbringing.
Past 17, basically - it is a matter of 'do you want to marry her/have children with her'
Any other reason, for a smart girl, is a waste of time (and money, plus a risk of STDs or other diseases - guys not looking for the long haul have some problems they are not dealing with).
So, before you blame it on 'women' - sort yourself out to get to a place where you seek something that makes sense for a woman to engage with.
Most don't have the energy/time/money to be your therapist, best buddy, sex buddy, girlfriend for a while or an emotional punching bag.
You do have to deserve one to get one.
The same reason why men are not honest with their intentions when it comes to dating, and use dating a way to fuck women and leave them after sex but also complain why women get higher bodycount. If you dont like such generalizations, then dont make a such a stupid generalization about women. Some guys dont understand no, and so dont accept rejection to the point women have to lie to them. A guy i dated is still texting me and harrassing me for almost a year despite ignoring/blocking him
Men are more straight up though. Women use emotions over logic more than guys do. So of course you're going to more empathetic
I am a direct person actually but ok.
I dont get your point here
In general men are straight up. Key word General. Good for you though 👍
I never play games. I am honest person but i may lie for safety reasons if the guy dont understand rejection
At least in my experience, guys haven’t been willing to take “I’m not interested” or “I’m just not into you” as an answer (but that’s all I’m willing to give as a reason anymore). I’ve had guys press for details, and those times I’ve given them then they got hurt, angry, or both.
Same guys take it waaaay to personally sometimes
Also it can be a bit dangerous to turn someone down if they’re the aggressive type i find too
u @Watermelony Fortunately I've never had to deal with anyone that aggressive or potentially dangerous, but I'm sure it can happen.
Well i can understand that but then a lot of guys have trust issues or don't want to approach anymore because they feel like women just lie
@Watermelony okay this one I’m not letting go. Rejection is personal. It is intensely personal. Long term and regular rejection can cause the development of injury to the ego. When a man is asking why he’s being rejected it isn’t so he can be better for you, it’s so he can be better in general. Rejection without the ability to express any justification for why is like failing a test but gettin no feedback and when you ask for clarification being told that we are taking the response too seriously. I reject women all the time; I don’t date addicts, fat women, or trend chasers. I am honest with all of them. The least you can do is have the decency to actually understand why you’re not attracted to a guy. Because regardless of what you think, rejection is extremely personal. If you don’t believe me look up some research about what happens when a woman is rejected in relation to how it affects her interaction with men. Do the research, watch some videos, and come back and tell me it isn’t personal.
@DeltaCharlieEcho Exactly! I agree 100%! That was very well said.
u @Jamie05rhs. No, Jamie, it isn't necessarily wrong, but it's also not "wrong" of me to give a polite no without diving into an explanation. As I mentioned, that's just based on my experience. I could regale you with a litany of stories that brought me to where I stand on it, but space limitations wouldn't allow it. And yes, I know, rejection (whether it's rejection on an employment or scholarship application, or in dating) is personal - I've experienced enough of each to know, and it stings.
I'd personally thank you if you rejected me straight up and i would say thank for you for not wasting eachother's time
@Anonymous Same here.
u @Asker I do politely decline straight up so as not to waste my time or his. But I don't feel compelled to give lengthy explanations if a guy asks "why not?" The reason: damned if I do, damned if I don't. I've learned the hard way that giving a reason, more often than not, either elicits more questions or snotty/snarky remarks (or both). One refusal ended up with a guy harassing and stalking me. I think it's enough to say "no, but I'm flattered you asked" and leave it at that rather than discuss reasons why not; either way, the outcome is going to be the same.
I've said before and I'll say it again. A great deal of women (not all) are overgrown children who refuse to be responsible and they have a very weak (if any) moral compass.
True man
Many men react poorly to rejection. And a poor reaction can quickly become dangerous for the woman rejecting.
Some people feel that hurting someones feelings is far less important than being honest.
These are just two explanations. The better question to ask is: how do i adapt to what appears to be a consistent behavior among women?
Lmao there was a case in my country where a guy asked a woman for her number and she said nope not interested he stabbed her. I wonder why women can’t be straight up and honest 💀💀 if y’all stop actin like entitled douchebags we might. Every time a guy asks for my number i give him my phone and i say sure thing give me ur number ill def contact u. And i end up ignoring the person but i can never reject because of fear.
Alright fair enough. I won't trust women though and just give up on trying to pursue anything with them
Honestly this is nonsense. If one instance made you do this, why do you still drive? Dont you know all the people dying all the time in car accidents? Smh.
@bamesjond0069 yes I don’t run into car accidents as much as i run into creepy men... it’s completely different the amount of numbers i have from random men in the streets who probably think i owe them smth is insaneeeeeee I wouldn’t risk my life because I couldn’t give my number to a guy lol, and yes how u know I've been in a car accident once it traumatized me i still can’t drive to this day and im 22 i use public transit and uber cause i always think imma get hit or hit someone with the car 🏃♀️ We are allowed to have trauma no?
@bamesjond0069 There's no point in continuing to try if they'll lie all the time
Y’all think we’ll be mad if u stop trying? PLEASE DO. That’s exactly what we want.
Okay liar. Will do
I've been followed after rejecting a guy bc he was butthurt about it. I wasn’t even rude I just let him know that I’m not into having a relationship with anyone except the guy I’m talking to. He followed me for 5 blocks. It was so scary.
@mintbloo oh the irony in that 😂
@WAT88 Are you being a blue pilled mangina?
Are you American? If you are, the 2nd ammendment exist for a reason. You can buy a 9mm handgun and practice how to shoot to protect yourself
we don't want to hurt your little sensitive feelings
no but in all honesty, we are taught to not be rude to others and unfortunately that goes over into our dating life
you should really start trying to read body language. why are you asking women out if they are giving not hints or signs of being interested in you? that automatically means rejection... if you want honesty, you should only hit on women who show interest
also it's hard being a woman out there with guys going after you. i agree with the fear of safety. we don't want any conflict so we just try to be neutral and nice
So should i not trust women and give up on pursuing them and just focus on other things in life?
@OpinionOwner
Our sensitive feelings can handle it, and we would respect you more if you were just honest and told us you aren't interested. I have trouble believing there are widespread physical attacks on women from guys they rejected...(at least in the US)
I can read body language pretty well, and it's never foolproof. So what do you suggest? I'd say approach men more, but we all know that ain't happenin.
@spartan55 i was the one who approached my boyfriend, so...
@OpinionOwner
That's honestly nice to hear. You are one of the rare cases.
@spartan55 thanks. if i'm interested in someone, i don't really like playing the waiting game or playing games. i've dealt with too many as*holes and too many games and they wasted my time.
@OpinionOwner
That's the reason it pisses me off, it's just a time waste. To me, it's worse because it's difficult to be the one who (9/10 times) has to summon up the nerve to ask a girl out. Even for confident guys rejection takes a mental toll.
women can't stand men being honest to them in this same scenario, you'll be surprised how many bimbos in tinder I pissed off when I told them I was looking for hookups and no damn relationshits.
so if they can't take honesty then I highly doubt they will be able to give it as well
As a woman I can say she probably fears your reaction. She might need to see a therapist to work on her decision making and do some introspection. he also sounds immature because any grown mature woman will say how she feels regardless of how one may react.
Even after I've told her that's it's okay to be straight up. I've been rejected a lot and im use to it
Yeah I wouldn’t take it personal. It sounds like she is battling with anxiety and is probably struggling with being straightforward and upfront with you. if I were you I would just drop her and move on.
Is it okay not trust to trust women and give up on approaching them and focusing on other things in life?
Repeated myself
No not all women are like that. Maybe you should try dating more mature women. Or change where you are meeting them.
You sure? I feel like most are
Yep. At this point I’m just speaking for myself in the circle of women that I know. We’re typically more straightforward when it comes to expressing our feelings.
That reminds me of that phrase "im not like other girls" 😂
I mean, if that’s how you feel! Good luck!
Thank you. Im going to educate myself about true female nature
Because a lot of men can't handle rejection. We have to be careful about what we say. The good result is you accept it and move on, the bad result is you end up insulting us and calling us names which really just makes you look stupid and then the worst case scenario is you stalk us and assault us. Best way around it is to simply take initiative and tell us that you are cool if she's not that into you.
All men live their lives in near constant rejection. It’s women that lose their fucking minds after rejection.
@DeltaCharlieEcho a lot of women don't initiate so rejection is a rare thing. But yah know women might get upset at being rejected but it's far less likely for us to murder someone over being rejected 🙃
No, women just become far more aggressive in their rejections of men every time they get rejected. God forbid a man does something that makes the woman feel rejected after they have kids together, since you know, women love going straight to drowning his kids in the tub.
@DeltaCharlieEcho sounds more like a case of untreated postpartum depression. Andrea Yates is who you are referring to right?
there’s a bunch of women that have done this; for what it’s worth, I believe every high profile incident like this has been white women.
Is it fair to say that women just use the whole "He can't handle rejection" as an excuse not to be straight up?
@DeltaCharlieEcho yep and I bet most are related to postpartum depression/psychosis
@asker it's fair that women are careful about how they approach these situations.
@Aimée__LJ Next woman that is "carefull" about rejecting me is gonna end up in my basement or something. NO is all i need to hear if a girl don't want me.
Yes the point that this being carefull about it is making is the shit creating more d. angerous men.
I Have intense hate for the Girls that were "carefull" about it.
The one that Just bluntly said no I have huge respect for and she is the only one I never texted again after that.
The ones that were so "carefull"
Never really said no but always made it seem like there was a chance and kept flirting with me
@Aimée__LJ in the same way we men are supposed to know wich girl will not gives an answer that will make us feel worthless.
You can't know, so you Just will have to take the risk. Everytime I ask a girl out I risk my dignity. Cause women are not willing to just say no but only willing too say stuff that don't make sense or will make us feel bad enough to call the suïcide hotline
Only thing u are doing with the "carefull" method is creating more men that can't handle rejection.
I Think I have been rejected about 30 times allready but only one time it was an actual rejection. The other 29 times it was you're a nice guy but... yeah I been on the train tracks cause of that
I am not gonna start asking Girls out with saying it is okay if you say no.
Cause to be honest it ain't okay for me. Yes I will accept the rejection when it is Just NO or at least something Just as clear as that.
But I won't be feeling okay for a while after that. I Don't have options If I ask you out you are the one I want baby's with and want to grow old with.
Actually you women are really good at rejecting guys that want a family and going for the guy that Just wants sex.
So yeah That method I can't use it sounds like I got more options I don't have that the woman I am asking out at that point probably isn't even an option.
And saying it is okay to reject will be lying to myself cause it would feel like I am saying that am not gonna feel bad about it
But offcourse the rejection it self is okay
Read back I have
Maybe I should try the traintracks again
She didn't answer yet
For real I have been there before
😅dude I am not even in america. i meant I tried to off myself once before I didn't take her yet
I have no problem with rejection and will even thank the girl for being straight up. It's lying though & leading people on because you're too scared to hurt people's feelings that's annoying
If only telapthy was a real power
If only women said what they really meant
@DeltaCharlieEcho if men would only listen 💁🏼♀️
Contrary to female belief, men can not read minds and neither can women.
... because many women have been conditioned through experience that many men do not take or accept rejection so how they proceed is just easier for them. Whereas you may take a ‘no’ well, this does not hold true with ‘all’ other men. Try not to take it personal.
Women don’t mean what they say. They have 14 different NO’s.
And they’re full of a jealously and dramas and emotions and a lot of other bS!
And they love arguing without wanting to fix the problem.
With all that, you want a direct answer?
Y’all act like women don’t get stalked, harassed, and/or killed just for telling men no. Loved ones are mourning the loss of their mothers, daughters, sisters, etc. all because a man couldn’t handle rejection.
This is nonsense. Men 99.9% aren't going to be crazy if you say no. Its when you lead them on for 3 months and then tell them no. Literally girls will go on "semi dates" like get to know you dates when the man has explicitly said he's interested. Then after like a month or two they will then say "i have a boyfriend" when you try to get sexual or something. Wtf. I had a girl do this to me and i made it seem that she cheated and i told her boyfriend so he dumped her. She lied to me so i lied back. No big deal. Not my problem.
@bamesjond0069 Yeah if anything guys will get mad being lead on or being lied to over being rejected
I can handle rejection. Example: there was a girl that I liked who I worked with and not once did I ever make it even obvious that I liked her at all. One day when we were both at work she says “don’t ask me out” then I said I won’t/I’m not then walked away. My brother, me, an old neighbor and her friend was at a park just hanging out. I was trying to talk to my neighbor’s friend and she said she only likes girls. Just say you not interested. Is it that hard?
@ayomanwya Congratulations
@Rina_colada Such maturity from your side
@TruthBringer I mean I really don’t care because I said what I said.
Women tend to be extremely non confrontational and think they are sparing a guy's feelings by doing that. It's actually far worse.
Well guys , its your fault for allowing the situation to arise towards a rejection in the first place. You yourself invites and positions a rejection coming your way regardless. And to add insult to injury , try being honest with yourself first about yourself. Most of all my adult life I've been the rejector , but a few rejected me too. Those who rejected me , I latter looking back at it... did me a big favor in the long run which led me to actually respect them in such a way.
Lots of men won't take no for an answer, so we have to make up another answer, Ave sometimes they won't even take that.
You know how to shoot guns?
To leatrn how to protect yourself. I believe that women should practice and learn how to shoot firearms. If a dumbass can't handle rejection and tries to do some stupid shit, put one in his leg
Learn*
@Zelda_5, this asker seems to be highly frustrated by women being polite to men because we know that potentially it can be dangerous.
@CuteLingsAppreciator Lying is considered being polite?
You can just say you're not interested. You don't have to be rude about it. But even then call me crazy but id rather hear a fuck than a sweet lie
Usually I would say it. But it also depends too some men cannot handle rejection well and there's a hesitant around it. It all depends on the individual case I suppose
Couldn't agree more, dude! Real men do need to face rejection and hear what is wrong, maybe it's her and maybe it's you. A girl rejected me after a date, and I said YOLO I have nothing to lose, so I asked her why and she told me I need to get more assertive. Respect.
They don’t want to hurt your feelings. I know long term it’s probably less hurtful to be blunt, but they hate to see the man look defeated.
Yeah newsflash this what you think is trying to not hurt or feelings. Is playing with our feelings wich makes it harder to deal with the rejection and makes us end up suicidal Just be blunt.
Yes we will feel bad but for a Day maybe 2 cause you were honest.
If we have to find out on our own it is not gonna happen that is mental abuse.
Yeah id rather be rejected honestly than be lead on or told something that seems nice which isn't true
The guys that go Batshit crazy with a normal either have been trough this beating around the bush rejections for years or were allready one of the maybe 7% if not less of men that are actually dangerous
Some guys can't take no for an answer and decide to become very aggressive.
They are scared to hurt your feelings
Or
They want to keep you as Plan B
So anyway you are willingly hurting is his feelings and playing with his emotions.
If you really wanna not hurt us Just say no.
And if you wanna keep us around as plan B kill yourself
@friendzoned4life I'm not talking about myself I'm already taken
And
3) They like the attention and don't want it gone
Yeah Iknow but the next girl that is gonna reject without being completely blunt about it is gonna have a really bad time
Too bad. Women are not entitled to our attention. It's all or nothing. When women keep wondering why a guy hasn't called this is why. If you can't be bothered to be straight and honest with a guy he will ignore you like you don't exist.
Hmm maybe because a lot of you are annoying and won’t fuck off regardless
a lot are. Even though women are more afraid of rejection, i can agree with that
Oh don’t forget how some of you will assault or even sexually assault women for rejecting you. Don’t forget that disgusting part.
"The men are evil and women are wonderful effect"
“The reality that too many of you are pieces of shit effect”. Truth hurts huh dude? Oh well.
And women are angels with halos over there heads right? You girls do no wrong once so ever right?
Because women are conflict avoidant by nature due to an inherent higher agreeableness level due to a lack of physical stature and a general inability to force their way.
So i shouldn't trust any of them or trust what a woman tells me?
Why can't some men just take the hint and read the room. It's really not difficult to tell when someone isn't interested.
How hard is it to say no?
I would imagine it's pretty difficult for women who are unsure of how you will react. The problem with you is that you think your feelings are more important then someone's safety. You sound like a wuss tbh
Okay Mr blue pilled. I already said that i feel like a lot of women just use the whole "he'll kill me" as an excuse to just not be honest because lying is easier
Whatever, dude. You're miserable, insecure, and insensitive. I can't imagine why you have trouble with the ladies. You're the whole package 🤡🤡🤡
You're right. Im glad im not a white knight that puts vagina on a pedestal 😁
because some men don't react well to that. they get angry or aggressive. so they adapted to that by doding and ghosting.
So dont trust women from this point on. Cool
don't trust anybody by default... trust is earned. i mean normal people make conditions for other people to meet so that they can trust them right? that's normal isn't it?
I will thank a girl if she straight up rejects me. She didn't waste eachother's time and i can handle a no like a man and move on
yeah sure. nothing wrong with that.
Because if we do, we get stalked and followed and begged and harassed
So yeah...
Because some guys won't accept that answer like my girlfriend keeps having guys hit on her no matter how many times she says she is already taken
Does your girlfriend know how to shoot guns?
no but I almost wish she did
You guys should go shooting. Learn how to shoot and if your girl learns how to shoot, she can defend herself. Buy a little 9mm or 45acp
look at Eve how she tricked Adam into biting the Apple 🍎. So you see even from the beginning of time honesty is not the best policy of women.
https://youtu. be/bFOSRcFArjM
They are too afraid that you will react extremely and they have a compelling desire to conform to social norms unlike men. Society expects them to be nice and they force themselves to be nice, but not rejecting which is plain silly in my opinion.
Sounds like a great plan, guy... never trust any woman ever again because - how many tried to let you down easy? Brilliant plan.
Most of the time we are but a lot of guys don’t want to hear it
Boys don't want to hear it. Men do
Not all of us are freakos who can't take no for an answer. But like women, it's hard to tell which men are good and bad.
I just don't trust any of them. It ain't worth if they have to lie all the time
Agreed.
No, not like women. You have to assume women are passively malicious at best and actively man haters at worst. With men you can assume these dudes are beyond rare because they are.
Because they enjoy seeing what guys would do to get them.
Because many women don't know pressure points to ward off an attacker even though the best of living life to the fullest is on the brink of danger.
Tell me about it, i dated a girl and she wasn't even interested.
Took her a month to tell me that and she didn't even dared to say straight.
Well how do you know she’s not intrested? What did the girl say to you? I am asking because usually if not interested they will say so, it’s possible she didn’t lie but it depends on what she said.
Because I’m scared of being killed? Lol. Rather say I have a boyfriend
So is it okay to not trust women then and give up on trying to pursue anything with them?
Why are all of these guys so sensitive, if you want a girl to approach you first- download bumble
This backfires because now we know its a lie half the time and the other half the time y'all cheat on your bfs... like we going to just never try again because you have a boyfriend... oh please. Lmfao
@bamesjond0069 And yet they want honesty from guys lol
Because women have emotions but don't realize that the vast majority of men don't have emotions
They deal with guys as if they are also women
Same reason why men can't just be straight up and say they're not interested
Because they'd rather play games for the most part.
Many reasons but some of them don't want to hurt men feelings
Ever had a girl that you worked with tell you not to ask her out and you really never was? I have and my feelings weren’t hurt. Ever had a girl that you wanted to talk to tell you that she only likes girls? I have and once again my feelings weren’t hurt. Then again they were straight up 🤷♂️
It would be nice but people tend to take rejection very poorly
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