Girls, Ladies, who is the greater threat to your rights and freedoms?

[Sixgunsound]

A man who makes an inappropriate joke from across the room;

or a man who was socialized in a culture where beating women into compliance is normalized and honor killings are ok?

I ask this because there seems to be no problem from mainstream feminism with opening the floodgates to industrial scale immigration with preference to societies which have a very different understanding of women’s rights than the western world does, but men have been deprived of the ability to provide for their wife and children over words. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense in consideration of the danger to women of potential beating rape or death vs potential hurt feelings.

[Bratsondanielle]

You're talking about immigration from muslim countries. Somehow muslims are spilling into every country on the planet. And yes it's super dangerous. They have zero intentions of integrating and assimilating in society. Most never learn the language. Look at Europe!! Look at London and Sweden!! That's what Trump did which is why he made the "muslim-ban" . Biden of course removed it 😒 🙄. In London the muslims have their own "police" telling British women how to dress in the "muslim areas" .. don't believe me? Go to YouTube and search "muslim patrol london" . I guarantee you won't believe your own eyes!!

[Julie4]

I suppose you are thinking of Islam. Indeed the modern feminists have difficulty in denouncing the actions of Islamic extremists. Because these movements tend to want to abbatre the patriarchy of the white man and even more if it is Christian.


I think that these left-wing movements have replaced their proletarian electorate by the immgre.


However, I don't think that an immigration that would accept Christian fundamentalists is a good thing too.


For me, the best thing to do is assimilation as far as immigration is concerned

[Sixgunsound]

Neither of our countries require assimilation, which is only going to hurt us both in the long term. But you didn’t answer my question.

[Sixgunsound]

I don’t only mean Islamic countries, though that does seem to get a lot of negative press in the UK about Islamic families murdering their daughters. Pretty much everywhere outside the west seems, at least for an outsider looking in, to believe that women’s rights end where their husbands fist starts.

[Julie4]

The answer to your question is automatically biased by the wording of your question lol. That's why I took the liberty of expanding my answer slightly.

It is as if you had asked the following question: "Which religion is less dangerous between Christianity and Islam? "And that in your argument you presented things in the following way: "On the one hand you have Christianity, which offers you chocolates at Easter and gifts at Christmas, and you have Islam, the religion of Osama bin Laden, which commits attacks and kills thousands of innocent people, so which religion is the least dangerous?

You understand that such a formulation poses a problem, and it is for this reason that I allowed myself to develop a little more my reasoning with your question.

For the assimilation is well it was something that was practiced in my country. But unfortunately it is not the case anymore

[Sixgunsound]

If you want me to get back to you on a source I will, but it probably won’t be today: some ranking officers in the French military went on TV to state that there gravely concerned about a coming Civil War between immigrants who refused to assimilate, and native born French citizens who just can’t deal with the violence murder beatings theft and general lack of positive contribution to France’s economy and culture. The UK is less honest about the negative effects of allowing people to act the same way they did back home. In all three above mentioned countries it is usually women who suffer more than men from the violent predations of those whose cultures do not respect women’s rights.

[Sixgunsound]

For the record I think all religion is dangerous.

[Julie4]

Ok my English must be really bad, because you don't seem to have understood correctly what I was trying to explain lol.

Assimilation is indeed no longer practiced in France, and I have never denied the problems caused by massive and uncontrolled immigration.

However I was trying to bring some nuance to the formulation of your question.

In short, I do not believe the populists who promise us zero immigration. However, I think that we can impose a controlled immigration that would be based on assimilation and that would send back the non assimilated immigrants and the delinquents.

[Sixgunsound]

I think I understand you better now. And I wish what you are saying would be realistic in either of our countries! In the interest of fairness to you your abilities in English are better than mine in French.

[Julie4]

Haha thank you, well I think that would be a good thing, but I don't know if assimilation would be something that would work in the US in relation to your history.

I believe that the US has many communities that are not assimilated but integrated which means that the various communities work and respect the American laws but still tend to live among themselves and often with their own way of life. This is possible because the US is not a nation based on "ethnicity" but on values. By exaggerating a little the line, to adhere to the American values and here you are become American citizen lol.

For France it's different, we have an old culture, with old traditions, but which has since the revolution also become a nation with universal values, like the USA. So we have a mixture between an old culture and values. Therefore if a foreigner does not assimilate we have the consequences that we know today.

So I wonder if for the USA an assimilation would be really relevant? at least as I understand it

[Agape93]

Of the two, B.

[Sixgunsound]

Thank you for having the courage to answer honestly. That is uncommon these days.

[Agape93]

That's because people are either too cowardly or too delusionally PC. I don't give a damn if someone makes inappropriate comments, freedom of speech is a thing even if I don't like it. But anyone that uses tyranny and oppression is automatically the bigger threat, and like all threats, needs to be destroyed.