Why have men lost respect for women?

[Anonymous]

[Singing_Hollow]

Good Question, So both have lost respect for each other and most of all, I know ill get backlash for this but it has to be said but Women of today have no respect for themselves. We have lost what it is to be a woman, feminine and graceful. We want to be like men but the fact is we arnt like them. We all have a role to play in life as men and women and right now its a complete mess. Men are absent in their kids lives and women are raising their sons to be emotional confused wimps. A man and a woman need to work as a team and we are instead turning on one another to try and eliminate one another from existence. Thats whats screwed up. Its okay to be a strong woman and have your own business etc but whats not okay is making our men of today feel belittled and ashamed of being a man.

[chloeaimeejensen]

I’m going to get berated for this by other girls no doubt but we have lost respect for ourselves and therefore lose respect for men. But the other reason I think men have lost respect for women is because of the small minority of women that spoil it for the rest of us. Like that woman who was drowning at the bottom of a swimming pool and got rescued by a male lifeguard and instead of thanking him for saving her life, she filed rape charges against him because he touched her near her intimate areas without her consent while he was rescuing her.

[blueonblack22]

There is an evolutionary theory that’s causing so many problems nowadays.

Historically women were at a disadvantage to men and Mother Nature made them more subconsciously selfish for self preservation reasons (and to protect their children). For most of humanity they had limited opportunities, power and rights. So they had to rely on their feminine wiles and manipulation via relationships to survive and/or get ahead.

And historically most men were NOT rapists and/or violent abusers (fuck you feminists for claiming otherwise). If we were then chivalry would of never started. Most men innately have soft spots to love and care for women. We didn’t need to be brainwashed/guilted further because a few bad apples exist (and always will exist).

So now western women have more freedom, power and opportunity in all of human history. I believe they have actually more opportunity and benefits then men in modern western society (when all else is equal). So some of these advancements for women’s rights were well meaning and justified. However what unfortunately hasn’t changed for most women in their subconscious evolutionary thinking. They are still on average much more selfish then men and don’t even realize it. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

Some women are completely aware and disgusted at the sickening double standards. But too many others lack that mental self awareness. They feel little guilt/shame about it either. Just more greed.

But men and women are meant to be bound for the survival of the human species. There is a reason why they say in wedding “now you are one” when you get married. What these modern feminists don’t realize is when they manipulate and harm men and masculinity they ultimately end up harming women. When men fail then women ultimately fail. It’s not a zero sum game where one gender benefits from harming the other.

Sure there is a sugar high and short term benefits to that selfish insanity. However were women meant to be voluntarily lifelong single and childless?

[Finchie40]

Because most women these days are selfish people that only really are about themselves , Most women don’t really know what they want , they say they want love and marriage and to buy a nice home together and have babies and when they receive all of it, it still isn’t good enough , Most girls’ are brainwashed by social media and are drawn to a lifestyle that they think they should have instead of focusing on what’s right in front of them , Most girls will set boundaries in a relationship to keep her man in line but she won’t follow those same boundaries , it’s ok for her to do but not ok for her man , which leads to double standards , most girls’ can’t admit to themselves that they are wrong , Most girls are vulnerable to a man that she feels has status , She can have a great loving man at home that protects her and provides for her but as soon as she gets bored of him she opens doors to a guy she feels has more status then her partner does and will easily spread her legs for him , making excuses to herself that her partner doesn’t treat her right , but this guy does. I am not speaking for all women but a majority of them I can because I been the other man

[hahahmm]

I'm old enough to remember when the vast majority of women (almost all), wanted to be attractive to men. Not just physically but character wise. Even women who had poor character tried hard to have the public image of having a good character. There was ZERO question that a street hooker had less to offer than the average woman.

Today things have flipped. Now the vast majority of women focus on sex and openly make it the most important thing. They don't have the character stuff that guys value and they also had poor role models and friends so the bad stuff is spreading fast like cancer. These women cannot be loyal or respectful of men. They openly mock/hold contempt for men. Now the street hooker actually has better character because she's honest about not being loyal. While the other women will lie and claim to have some good qualities.

When you don't respect yourself, why would anybody else respect you? These women treat themselves like trash but expect a man to treat her like a queen!

Of course there's SOME smart women who have old school values and still get respect.

[hahahmm]

And the so-called feminists are 100% self-centered. There is nothing they can bring to a relationship except a vagina and a man can get that from anywhere. Why should he invest anything in a relationship with what amounts to a blow up doll.

[monorprise]

The players have via their domination as our "cultural leaders" turned the entire female population into whores for them to take advantage of.

[hahahmm]

@monorprise I heard some theory that the guys who backed feminism initially were rich guys who wanted to sleep with as many women as possible and the social norms of the day made that impossible. So they found a way to mass produce women who will sleep around more. Basically weak men lead to the decay of civilization and men today are weak. Women fill the void. I also think a lot of these feminists are trying - in some ways - to be men but they are just aping the worst qualities of some men in many cases. And ignoring biological reality. What's good for some guy isn't necessarily good for a woman.

[monorprise]

@hahahmm
Men have collapsed because we stopped educating and raising them. Education techniques and policies were changed in the 90's to better appeal to what interest girls, thereafter boy's lost interest and started dropping thou the floor.

Those boys are now men, who can't support themselfs let alone a family so women have no choice as they all chase after the ever smaller share of men who somehow persevered anyway.

Yes feminist did this and they did it with the help of our cultural and political leaders who changed the policy.

[hahahmm]

@monorprise Sure. There's a lot of things that 'coincidentally' contribute to civilization going downhill. Very likely the masterminds of this collapse had it all planned 100+ years ago and worked on that plan slowly. For example, the whole concept of public schools was to create easily controlled people. They just waited a long time to flip the switch and start really trying to modify how society works in an obvious way. Before it was very gradual

[monorprise]

@hahahmm
You should get to know many of the people in the sub-culture that generally pushes theses policy changes. I think you will find a bit of a crusader myopic focus on their goals ignoring all others.

100+ year plans require the conspiracy of large numbers of people and tend not to hold together so well. Thou Public education was indeed invented for the propose of controlling populations, original in Prussa simply to make them good soldiers of the State. With New England politicians soon adopting the same idea probably for similar reasons thou rebranded as necessary for good citizens.

Theses were all relatively short term goals for ideological ends, thou leading in the same direction of greater control this was not nessarly part of any plan beyond the control they themselfs sought.

For a long term plan to be carry ed out it must be documented as an ideology like Marxism.

[hahahmm]

@monorprise "For a long term plan to be carry ed out it must be documented as an ideology like Marxism." ... Or it's simply necessary for the biblical concept of a spiritual war between good & evil being true.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Certainly not all women. I'd prefer no use of "women" actually as the ones I've lost respect for are children, regardless of the amount of time they've spent on this planet.

There are two types that bother me, the kind that have no concept of money, a champagne taste with a beer budget that wants a man only to pay her bills and help with her massive credit card debt, and the type that brings virtually nothing to the table but insists that she's "all that" and 9 out of 10 times can't even articulate something she brings to the table. There's 8 billion people in the world. Gracing us with the glory of your presence is not enough to get me to make it though appetizers much less dinner.

Either of these coupled with a bad attitude and/or entitlement and I'm already arranging alternate plans for the evening before the check has arrived.

I had a woman get mad on a first date once because I wouldn't buy her kids shoes. They weren't even there (not that I would, had they been there), but apparently I should buy $400 shoes for each of her three kids to send home with her. I was like two of them are in high school and have jobs what is wrong with you? She made quite the scene in the store about how she's got no time for broke men. I told her the reason I'm not broke is because I don't do stupid things with my money. I do hope she made it home safely. This was before Uber.

[razelove]

I think that's more small slices growing and getting louder. Even 15 years ago, something like the pick up artist community, Andrew Tate, or Fresh and Fit would have flopped.

In my opinion it was the advent of Tinder and the like that really changed the landscape. It gave men and women the illusion of infinite choices. A few years go by and women start finding serious relationships are difficult to find there, while men find it's a lot of effort for less returns compared to women.

That's natural, but add on to that women posting so many gotcha moments, cancel culture promoting that, DEI initiatives, a civil legal system loaded against you there too. Many men are choosing not to compete. Some of it is completely unrelated to women, like the guy charged with murder and mob justice encouraged for defending himself on a subway.

Society is being pushed to make men stop being men, so many are doing just that, but then get pissed when exactly that happens.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-say-riders-didn-t-help-woman-raped-train-does-n1281998

https://www.ndtv.com/topic/woman-stabbed-daylight

You can make an argument for not interfering in a shooting, especially if you don't have a gun. For large crowds to do nothing when someone has a knife, around the world is indicative of a large change though. It was seen as an outrage in New York in the 1960's, now it's a matter of course almost.

[OfMiceandMen]

All I see is bunch of whiny ass men that have been hurt by women and blame/take it out on every other women for it.

She crushed my ego... Boohoo!

I respect every woman until she does something to disrespect me, but I don't automatically lump every woman in with the woman that disrespected me in the first place and hurt my feelings.

There's still lots of great women out there that have a lot of love to give, it's a bit of a challenge and just takes some finding. If you wanna be lazy and lump em together then you'll likely die a bored and alone individual.

If you wanna put your big boy pants on and try, then give it a shot but don't whine when it doesn't work out.

The same thing applies to women though. One should not assume all men are assholes just because a few guys treated you poorly.

[Sufrata]

So I guess it's a bit of the same with the opposite sex lol
Some months ago I've made a summary/bullet points of a video on YT and decided to share them with the others. Video was about about red flags in dating and things like that, targeted to female audience.
Some random woman of 50 ys old decided to post a comment under my post complaining that ALL men are the same and that theyre ALL out ONLY for sex. Which was her experience and she made it sound like it was some sort of universal law. By which I replied that it was statistically impossible that billions of men are ALL out for sex and only sex. By which she replied that she dated for decades and implied that she knew better because of her age and all men are pigs.

My opinion is just one word: bullsht.

But there was one thing that really stood out about what she was complaining about and it's the lack of respect.
I think both genders would book a lot of progress if people just taught their kids the basic human decency and respect for each other, but I think that's a long way off from reality.

[OfMiceandMen]

@Sufrata I agree, and that is what I was getting at. It bothers me when people think their opinion trumps everyone else's due to a bad experience (s). It happens, dust yourself off, move on and hopefully the next one will be better. If it happens often, then I would venture out on a limb and say it may not be the other sex that's the problem? Most people have this innate sense to point the finger the other direction, rather than pointing it at themselves and owning it.

[mobiusforniner]

Amen man. Couldnt have said it better.

[DarkLegacy]

Because women these days are largely selfish, small minded hypocrites, snowflakes and childish. Feminism is to blame for this really. They are always playing games think it is attractive to go for bad guys or going for guys with unnecessary large muscles. They demand to get their own way all the time and continuously mess men around or use them. Plus women are obsessed with fashion statements and refuse to take responsibility for anything. They are also entitled, especially the single mums.

And what is with all this snowflake nonsense with animal welfare. They are genuinely stupid to believe that animal cruelty should be treated as seriously as child abuse and they put an animals life above a humans life.

[Stoner710]

Not all women but most. I respect the ones that don’t take their close off for onlyfans or ticktock. Do I like the image of women in bikinis shacking their ass? Yes do I respect women who do that No.

i remember making the point a few years ago. There are women men want to have sex with vs the ones we want to marry. The ones who take their clothes off and dance around in sexy bikinis. Do you want to have sex with the ones that don’t do that we want to marry the body style want Mary is the same because we don’t want to marry a girl looking like Lizzo. But we don’t want a slut showing themselves off on the internet. We want a girl/women ( I personally use the words interchangeable for women under 30) who we can take home to our mother a TikTok hoe we don’t want that

[Anonymous]

There are two primary reasons. First, women have largely turned their backs on the things that have always made women valuable to men, including their natural feminine nature.

And second, men have been treated disrespectfully by society in general, and feminists in particular, for about two decades. And there are very, very few women willing to even acknowledge that, let alone stand up against it. It's hard for men to maintain respect for women when that has been the case for so long.

[Lionman95]

I would say because we live in an over-sexualised world where it´s easy to view women as pleasure objects. The other reason is because they never had respect for women in the first place. They always had problems in communication with women and so they never spend enough time with women to figure out to have a good understanding of women.

[DermalPunch]

Mho here

[Lionman95]

Thanks I take that as a compliment.

[Unit1]

I love women but i have no respect for those selling themselves on Onlyfans and participate in so called foodie calls (women going on dates just for free meals) and especially gold diggers.

I have absolutely no issues with matters like piercings, tattoos, colored hair or them outearning me even by 10 times.

[hahahmm]

Not disputing your right to preferences but using cars for an analogy... if a relationship is a car, then having something like a woman who makes 10 times more than a guy is an issue. A potential sore spot since lots of women expect their man to give them gifts and be protectors even if they are hardcore feminists. Or they expect the guy to pay for 100% of his own stuff. Even in marriage & yes I know of cases. These relationships have issues like a used car with a busted oil pump & leaky coolant system.

[Unit1]

@hahahmm i have never experienced these relationship issues and i have never witnessed such a case in others either.
I have faith in that there is a common denominator when any relationship falls apart. And stuff like money is not part of it for me.

[hahahmm]

The marriages I know of where the guy made less that work are ones where they met very, very young and have been together forever. In all cases I know of where they met later in life it's a mess. Just what I've seen.

[BlackJeep]

If I date outside my race they say I have a fetish. If I only date white women they say I am racist. If I date traditional women they say I am sexist. If I have any preferences they say I am closed minded. Those are the women I have lost respect for.

[Massageman]

Too many people of both sexes have lost respect for lots of others, of both sexes.

Respect? Responsibilities? No. But, rights? Yeah, those they expect.

[Anonymous]

They have not. I don’t know what type of men you are around, but the men in my life are very good role models and like women. I’m not sure if you hate women, if you do, your mother will be very disappointed in you. It is your fault for choosing to interact with women who have shitty personalities. Of course, it’s not always a choice, and I’m sorry if you have had a terrible childhood, but it is not a justification for hating almost half the population.

[Agape93]

Because they can no longer control us like they used to.

[provokeesmokee]

Lmao, you say that like men didn't originally stop women from being able to vote or own property.

[WhiteBoyChill]

But men also allowed those 2 things to happen

[Chthou95]

That's pretty fucked up to compare your life to the women 80, 90 years ago

[DarkLegacy]

Lol another pathetic woman trying to make out she is the victim of something that happened before she was born. It is fucked up

[ManOnFire]

Meh. Neither men or women have much respect for each other today. Women are pretending that they don't disrespect men, or they will admit it but only if they can try to justify their disrespect.

[Vegasrunner]

@ManOnFire I actually believe most men respect women, if they didn't they wouldn't spend so much time creating the modern conventions that women use.

[ManOnFire]

@Vegasrunner Well, in that sense I feel the same. I think men of today probably respect women more than 15 or 20 years ago, especially since so many women have bitched about male behavior.

On the other hand, women disrespect men much more now than 15 or 20 years ago, because they feel like they have a right to or that no one should tell them how to behave.

[Vegasrunner]

@ManOnFire I agree however I think men have to take some blame for this. in my opinion too many men especially younger men are ok w/ being disrespected by women. Over the course of time it becomes normal and the woman just assumes she can treat All men like this. I just had a similar situation like this come up w/ a young guy I'm mentoring. Where I had to convince him of his own self worth.

[ManOnFire]

@Vegasrunner That is 100% right, a lot of young guys do let women disrespect them, because they're scared they'll lose the pussy if they stand up for themselves. And it's literally as if women today think they SHOULD disrespect a guy and like it's wrong for him to hate it.

[Account]

Because we are no longer possessions to be used as they see fit. We are no longer depended on them and a lot of them don't like that.

[Faith18letsgo]

I don’t get the impression that they used to respect women more. They didn’t let them vote. Didn’t let us work. And didn’t let us be in charge of our own money. If that’s your idea of respect…

[mobiusforniner]

you're digging for incel responses to justify your perspective.

I respect many women. Other men do too. you're either looking in all the wrong places or you're too cowardly to do anything worthwhile beyond your phone or game screen.