How come women lose value when they sleep with a man, but a man gains value when he sleeps with a woman?

[chocolatetwopointo]

its js admitting that men deavalue everything they touch and women do the opposite.. no?

[Finchie40]

Because men for many of years were never considered whores , Females’ on the other hand were, especially back in the day , by throwing themselves at men to take care of them. Females’ would use sex to make money, some still do today. where men were always considered the providers and protectors , by working and fighting wars to protect their country and families. I read a whole article on this topic before. It mainly stems back to the Civil war times where men were fighting for their country risking their lives to protect their families and country , While females’ stayed back to raise their children. l and be care takers During the wars a lot of females’ that were single were seeking men to take care of them , so they would throw themselves at soldiers by offering them sex to take care of them. So in a sense females’ degraded themselves by acting this way and that’s where they got the name Whores. Men on the other hand were t considered whores because they worked and they fought and risked their lives to protect. So when a girl has sex with a guy, then has sex with another guy and another guy , she loses value in herself because she is considered a whore by not settling down with one guy , and yes guys’ on the other hand can be whores as well , but men are considered providers and protectors , so he gets praised for his accomplishments by being a leader and a provider and a protector, So bottomline it stems down from history for the most part.

[chocolatetwopointo]

the only reason they did that was bc they basically had no other way of surviving.

[Finchie40]

Yes understandable but that’s pretty
Much where it all started , History repeating itself pretty much

[RavVid]

I am not sure the hypothesis is correct but there is an element of truth in it so lets try it out.

Quite simply before DNA testing a man could not be certain a woman's child was his child. So a woman's chastity is important to men. If a woman has an all aboard attitude than there will be a high chance that you are not related to her children. So investment in her children might be investment in another man's children.

If she has shown in the past she doesn't sleep around than it is more likely you are the father of her children and your investment is worthwhile. Possibly the worst case is your the father of some but not all of her children.

Obviously a a woman is never in doubt of her maternity of her children. A women could view a sexually well experienced man as preferable because he will be better at giving her pleasure. Possibly a virgin male is the worst choice for her whereas the virgin female is the safest choice for a man.

Mate Copying is a trait the is seen in more than human females. In this strategy if a female sees another female being sexual with a male, then the first female copies her choice and goes for the male also. Inherently in this strategy the female is choosing presumably more sexually experienced males.

Whilst female fidelity is important to males, male fidelity is not so important to females. What is important to females are the resources the male provides to her and her children. Back in 2 Million BC that was mostly animal protein. If he was bringing home enough bacon for her it wouldn't matter if he was giving sperm donations to other females.

[chocolatetwopointo]

well DNA tests exist now so he can test the kid.
ur seriously making 0 sense rn. what the actual fuck is this bs ab💀

[RavVid]

Quite simply - and I would say very obviously - Darwinian selection. Those men and women who had good breeding strategies left more progeny and their instinctual decision making would come to dominate in society.

Female fidelity has importance to men but male fidelity less importance to women due to her guaranteed maternity. In fact Mate Copying is shown by females of quite a few species and human females are one of those that do.

So there is quite a reasonable explanation of those differing attitudes.

[chocolatetwopointo]

women also care a lot ab fidelity💀 not everything is ab kids? ur seriously making no sense rn

[PeachyPie93]

As others have said before it is because the genders value different things. Look how a lot of woman will not touch a guy if he is a virgin but a man usually would really enjoy a virgin.. we just put value on different things that we are looking for in a partner. Tho obviously there are exceptions like some men prefer women with lots of partners because they will be good in bed and some woman would prefer a virgin guy because he is more likely to stay loyal since he only has sex when he is in love.
I personally don't like promiscuous people since they make dating hard because the majority are becoming low value people, male and female.

[Shiprex]

Lots of partners I don't think guarantees quality of performance though especially in anyone who flits from one to another often. Quality of performance would be more likely built by someone who can learn from a partner through commitment and discovery.

[PeachyPie93]

@Shiprex Yeah I guess that's true..

[MzAsh]

People have peddled this double standard for ages, but it’s just a tired old narrative designed to police women’s sexuality while giving men a free pass. Don’t let this bs limit any woman’s personal freedom or self-worth.

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh It's been "peddled" because it's true. If a man is having sex w/ a lot of woman it automatically tells society he's doing something right. In fact this is so accurate that successful businesses have been built on this philosophy. When I worked in the nightclub industry, corporations mandated that young women and rich men had the highest value. If a man wasn't rich then he had to bring in several women w/ him, to increase his chances of gaining access. Since I understand that women use deflection to avoid the truth, understand.
1. This is only one example
2. This policy is still in practice today.
3. Older woman, 26 + had the least value and typically had to pay the most to enter.
I would argue this is a metric designed to highlight male success standards, and since women don't like it, they attempt deflection tactics to justify their feelings. As you have done.

[LogicBomber]

The Breakdown of "Why is it ok for a guy to sleep around and not ok for a girl".

You will always hear girls (generally who have had a busy sex life) whine;

"Why is it ok for a guy to sleep around and not ok for a girl".
There are a few factors in why this can be logically explained.

1. Pre-Selection:
- Women base a male's worth on how many and what kind of other women want him

Generally, women subconsciously like other to make their decisions for them or need to validate what they think with others. This is why girls seldom make decisions without asking their female friend's opinions first.

If a guy is sexually interesting to many other women, then a girl is more likely to find him attractive.

Girls generally want to be "the best/prettiest of all options" so they want a guy who has many options for women but "chooses" her over all the others. This way she "wins" the competition. This is why girls say they want "the nice guy" but generally chase the "bad boy".

A guy who has few women (if any) interested in him, doesn't have a lot of value for three reasons;

1. Why do other girls not like him? He must have something wrong with him...

2. It's to much work and "risky" to have to do the determining if he is good enough by herself.

3. If he doesn't have a lot of options, then she isn't "the best of many", she is simply his only option.

Guys, on the other hand, don't validate their opinions with others. If a guy like a girl, he will like her regardless of what his buddies think. "Pre-selection" actually has the reverse effect for men. A girl who has a lot of male attention generally are riskier because they are getting bombarded by guys trying to have sex with her all the time, she can pick and choose any guy at any time to have sex with and therefore it's a higher likelihood she will cheat at any moment of weakness.

2. Ease of access.
As much as women hate to admit it, they generally hold the power over sex. They pick and choose when and who. Unless they are absolutely hideous creatures, they have a much easier time getting sex. Women don't have to validate themselves to a guy to have sex, they simply need to offer. So a female who doesn't hold that ability to a high regard loses value.

Males have to "play the game", they have to validate themselves to a female before she will allow him to have sex with her. So a male who is able to do this more often has more value to women because he has been validated.

It's the idea of the American with an abundance of food vs the starving African.

An American who has endless options of food and can pick and choose when and what they eat should have some restraint, they shouldn't be hungry all the time, and they should be more selective about what they eat. Otherwise, they are a glutton, a pig, etc. If they are making poor choices they will affect their health.

A starving African has to constantly search for food, is always hungry, and when they find food, they have to take it even if it isn't the best food. If they don't, they may not find food again anytime soon. They can't be as picky about what they eat, and any food is better than no food. An African that is capable of finding more quality food or showing that they are able to get food more easily than others would be considered god-like. He would be seen as someone of value because he (unlike the others) is capable of producing food that the others have to struggle to get.

All in all, MALES are not the ones who "slut shame". Girls who put out easy may not be of long term value, but they are of short term use.

Women are the ones who aggressively shame girls who have been with many other guys.

Because girls are (like I said above) competitive towards other girls to become the "best" woman to a higher value male. Which is why women are "catty".

An attractive "slut" makes it harder for a girl to win the attention competition, so they slut shame to gain an advantage in the game.

Since higher value men want a female who also has value, and 'sluts' are generally not good for anything long term. A girl will attempt to devalue another's social capital by 'slut-shaming'.

Even if the girl isn't a 'slut', if she is prettier, or catches the eye of a guy the girl has an interest in, it's a common practice for a girl to try and paint her as a 'slut' or similar vernacular. Be it by calling her the name outright or by making up rumors. This is the worst and most common form of female bullying.

[chocolatetwopointo]

women do not base a males value on other women💀 where did u get that from? a girl likes a guy if she likes him, not more complicated than that. women want nice guys, not bad boys, still dont nnow what ur getting this from. if a woman can pick and chose so can a man. ur not making sense rn. nope, women dont get sex easier. still dont know what ur getting this from. men js have to be hot and nice for a woman to sleep with him, most of the time not even nice. men can sleep with whoever they want, whenever they want without any concequences. men aren't called whores r they? women have to think ab that every time they talk to a guy. when a girl is jealous she calls the other girl a slut. making those rumors is based in jealousy.

[LogicBomber]

It’s a studies and provable thing called preselection. Just because you don’t think you do, doesn’t make it untrue.

[LogicBomber]

I will also add that your simplistic statement about a Women likes a guy when she likes him and nothing more is also a blaintant fabrication.
Women make decisions based on what thier friends think. Like a hive mind. Which is why a girl will ask her friends their opinion on literally everything and they will sway their opinion based on the group think.
If a girl likes a guy and her friends all tell her “ewww really” she will often times change her mind.
And in regards to girls liking “nice guys” over bad boys… the actions of the majority of females proves you wrong yet again.
Women time and time again will do and say that a guy is “to nice” or will pass on the nice guy for some douche bag. Which is also why women love criminals and write serial killers in prison.
99% of men can NOT just sleep with any women he wants. If this were true, hookers would be out of work.
You live in the typical delusional bubble of female bias.

[oldpigg]

In reality slut shaming was created by women, in the Middle Ages women arrived as virgins to marriage, this with the aim of forcing the man to marry if he wanted to have sex with a woman, and this in turn with the aim of marrying a man and obtaining his money and assets for life, however there were promiscuous women who had sex with men without having married, virgin women saw promiscuous women as enemies, since they knew that if men got free sex, then they would not be interested in getting married, and that is why they stigmatized promiscuous women.

In my case, I am young and not interested in getting married, but if I were forced to decide, I would choose a virgin woman anyway.

[chocolatetwopointo]

well its not really the middle ages anymore lol. and why would u chose a virgin? r u one urself?

[BaronVonBarron]

@chocolatetwopointo why would you choose a tall man? Are you tall yourself? Why would you choose a man? Are you a man yourself? It is ok to choose something we dont have, your take is ridiculous

[chocolatetwopointo]

i wouldn't choose a tall man. aslong as he's over 165 (my height) im fine with it, and there's not a lot of men in sweden who r shorter than that. nah im pretty average tbh. lmao💀ok so u expect a woman who has no experience to be with a guy who has a bc of 10? u can't expect somebody to be a virgin if ur not one urself. the same way im leaving the tall guys for tall girls.

[BaronVonBarron]

@chocolatetwopointo if I was a woman I would not accept a man with bc of 10. I would suspect that it will be difficult to build intimate world with him. But many girls dont seem to care, I think it's dumb, but that's what it is.

[Darklydarkened]

Such things are cultural, people don't change that quickly.

The last 50 years of human history saw more change to human lives than last 400 years.

It's not that quick a process

Besides, this old mentality is servicable to the ruling elite.

[chocolatetwopointo]

@BaronVonBarron ok thats ur preference idc, i agree i wouldn't either. trust me, many girls do care, I don't know where u got that info.

[Shiprex]

I don't think a man gains value BUT in the eyes of other women because a woman has CHOSEN him he becomes valuable (think married guys are a target for women who just want a shag). Women who choose to sleep around get a reputation as being easy among men and that trait is not something many guys want to make a commitment to.

Each has their own experiences that the other groups see as valuable (women see fukbois as worthy champions who must have something other women want while guys see s! uts as easy and of low morality so won't commit to them and it's men who generally seek relationships more as they're the ones generally gatekeeping them) and almost opposite appeal for long term relationships.

[chocolatetwopointo]

trust me women dont think men gain value by sleeping with a woman.
yet men usually cheat and sleep around smh?

[Shiprex]

Why is it that women have been known to chase men with a ring on when women are not known for making the first move but with a ring, a man has something about him a woman has chosen. The men who cheat are the ones engaged in hook up culture which is like others say, the 5% club of those who bother with game and it's single women' whose sexual activity has increased in the last couple of generations not single men. That says it's the same men getting even more girls.

[OneViewpoint]

"its js admitting that men deavalue everything they touch and women do the opposite.. no?"

NO! It's a manifestation of a patriarchal society and the fact that the average person is not that bright but harbors plenty of insecurities regarding sex. Personally, I attach no stigma to either a man or a woman satisfying their natural sexual needs in responsible ways. It's completely hypocritical to have that dual standard.

Nor do I read anything into a woman approaching me to initiate a conversation or telling me what she wants in bed. No judgement. It's actually so refreshing to run into a woman who is honest and direct. Including saying NO! So much better than wasting time dropping cryptic hints. In my mind that's more valuable, not less valuable.

[Anonymous]

because men are the gatekeepers of relationships and women the gatekeepers of sex

the more you can gatekeep what you offer and retain more of what you want, the more value you gain

many women want a relationship with Leonardo Di Caprio, Leonardo Di Caprio only wants sex but no woman has successfully locked down Leo while he has fucked so many women thus Leo has more power

on the other hand you have Elliot Rodger you is in no position to gatekeep relationships because he can't even get what he wants thus Elliot has no power

now let's go to women

Lily Phillips who slept with 100 men in 24 hours and not a single one of those men promised to wife her up. she has been gatekept out of a relationship thus has less power

likewise Hailey Bieber locked down Justin Bieber and stopped him from pursuing more sex with more women thus Hailey has more power and she didn't have to give her power away to other men previously

[chocolatetwopointo]

but both genders can do both yet only women lose value?

[Opinion Owner]

women can get laid much lesser than men. women only need to fill one criteria to have sex and that is spread their legs. men have a laundry list of criteria in order to get sex

it's the same reason why tall people dunking a basketball isn't as impressive as short people dunking a basketball even though the action is the same

women getting male validation isn't the same as men getting female validation

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmao ok, so first off, when ur saying this ur js proving how desperate men are for sex. and you know damn well you wouldn't fuck an ugly or obese girl💀 women fuck and date guys usually if they’re tall but still ugly. like all u have to do is be tall, normal, and have hair. and if ur not tall, u can be funny, girls love funny guys.
from personal experience id say men get more female validation than any woman does💀

[Apple1996]

It's not easy for women to get sex. I don't know why men think this shit

[Opinion Owner]

@Apple1996 put up a Tinder dating profile and bio that says you want hookups only and you'll get plenty of matches

[Opinion Owner]

men being "desperate" for sex is due to society shaming them for not having it. there's entire term "incel" directly meant to insult such men.

you're deflating men's looks on purpose to fit your narrative of hot girls with ugly guys. yes there are girls who think Lizzo is hot and Ryan Gosling is ugly.

"girls love funny guys" lol now that's a funny statement given how much they hate Bill Burr, Patrice O'Neal, Matt Rife, heck even Trump is hilarious

from your personal experience as a girl? the personal experiences of men say otherwise. majority of men get ignored by the majority of women. men who aren't ignored are either hated or beloved by women. they don't give a shit about the postman, the garbage collector, the farmer, the electrician

[Staximus]

@Apple1996 in the real world it is, I don't know what Fantasyland you're living in. I worked in bars for years. If one ugly woman and one equally ugly guy came into a busy bar, and the ugly woman asked every guy if they wanted to go get a hotel room and the ugly guy asked every woman the same question, then the ugly woman would be going to the hotel and the ugly guy would be getting beat up.

[Apple1996]

@Staximus your saying ugly. Like yes ugly women get more attention from men because men see them as none threatening. A mid or pretty woman men are too intimidated to even look in our direction

[Apple1996]

@Asker I've had many of my friends complain about guys from apps planning hookups but then not going through with it lol

[Opinion Owner]

@Apple1996 did they swipe right on all the profiles or only those of hot guys?

not getting hookups from certain guys is not the same as not getting any hookups at all

[Apple1996]

No idea. I just have a friend who tried looking for sex on there when she was single. Apparently multiple men there were all talk but no real action 😂 she's very attractive as well so I don't know what their issue was

[Opinion Owner]

@Apple1996 well, that's as far as we know which can not be verified whether it's the numbers or her actual attractiveness

[Apple1996]

Yeah I've never been on apps or anything so I just go off what I've heard. It's just overall not easy for women to find sex like so many men assume

[Apple1996]

Also you have to realize that men like hunting so men will go after women for sex who don't want sex from them. A woman who desperately wants sex there is no chase/hunt for the men so she'll get overlooked

[Opinion Owner]

@Apple1996 where are you getting this idea men want sex with women who don't want sex from them? if this were the case there'd be no pornstars

we don't even know what profiles she swiped right on and they might be catfish profiles

[BaronVonBarron]

@chocolatetwopointo yes. Do you know statistics say, that unemployed men are almost undateable, while unemployed women are still dateable? Each gender has its priorities

[chocolatetwopointo]

@BaronVonBarron and did yk fat men r more likely to be in relationships than fat women. im js saying, men care ab looks and women care ab money/him being able to take care of himself. and its not really hard to get a job lmao

[BaronVonBarron]

@chocolatetwopointo so you do accept differences in preferences between genders. Why is it so difficult to you to accept that sexuality is just another one?

[chocolatetwopointo]

what sexuality r u on ab now? literally all im saying is, u can't expect someone to be a virgin when ur not one urself

[Opinion Owner]

@chocolatetwopointo fat men are not more likely to be in relationships than fat women. fat women like Lizzo are told she's beautiful all the time while Jonah Hill is a disgusting pos

[BaronVonBarron]

@chocolatetwopointo I disagree. The same way a short girl has the right to be with tall man, or a poor girl can want a rich man. You may like college professors while being just a student. An unorganised person might want someone organised. Your idea that you have to be the same as the person you want does not really make sense. You probably require this symmetry in preferences only in sexual behavior and no other area of life.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yh bc she gets support from other women. and both of them r in relationships rn.

[chocolatetwopointo]

my point is u can't expect somebody to be a virgin if u aren't one urself, u gotta imagine if the roles were reversed. like if ur a man whore u can't hate on female whores.

[Opinion Owner]

@chocolatetwopointo preferences aren't hate. that's like saying someone is racist for being attracted to white people over black people or black people over Asian people

people are entitled to their preferences. short women are allowed to be attracted to tall men and not be attracted to short men. doesn't make it hate

[chocolatetwopointo]

when did i say it was hate? literally all im saying is, u can't expect somebody to like u for something u wouldn't like on them if the roles were reversed. is it that hard to understand? when did i say it was hate?😭 idc what ur preferences are, do what u want im js letting u know.

[Opinion Owner]

actually you can be attracted to something you're not attracted to on yourself

plenty of fat men and fat women are attracted to athletic men and athletic women but repulsed by each other. women wear dresses but aren't attracted to men who wear dresses

if the roles reversed, it wouldn't matter because men and women are different

many short women are repulsed by short men but love tall men (height can't even be controlled)

many virgin women are repulsed by virgin men (they call them incels by the way) while fawning over promiscuous men like Leonardo Di Caprio

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah but im talking about EXPECTIONS. not attractness.
ok good for them idgaf.

[Opinion Owner]

preferences aren't meant to be consistent. if virgin women expect a virgin man, so be it but they don't, if fuckboys expect a slut, so be it but they don't

is it equal and fair? no but dating has never been equal or fair

[chocolatetwopointo]

then u can't expect virgins to want u if ur not one urself. WHY IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND FOR U.

[Opinion Owner]

why not, if a virgin woman can accept a non-virgin man? it goes both ways

[chocolatetwopointo]

sure do what u want but im talking about EXPECTIONS. WHAT DO U NOT UNDERSTAND.

[Opinion Owner]

oh I understand completely. nobody has to give a shit about those expectations though

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok so whats ur body count?

[Staximus]

@Apple1996 you're delusional. If a good looking woman was at the bar asking guys if they wanted to go get a room, she'd be out the door with one of them within 5 or 10 minutes and not have to wait till the end of the night when everybody's shitfaced like a fat or ugly chick.

[Apple1996]

@Staximus maybe that kind of stuff was true in the past but current day no. Men can't even have a conversation with a good looking woman

[Shiprex]

@Apple1996 I find that hard to believe. I think though these days any attractive woman alone would be most likely thought to be waiting for someone and since men have been told for the last 2 decades to "leave us alone" by the common narrative the risk of being asked to leave the premises by security is way too high and be labeled as a predator.
Maybe attractive women should be out there like men and make the first moves on average men and make their day where they may even find someone more valuable behind the aesthetic of height, clothing style, physique, income. etc..
Another thing is a lot of men would avoid really attractive women because they KNOW they're not top rank in looks and that woman may just be parking with him until the Bentley or Ferrari came along. So sure there is that risk but then SHE would have to prove she was authentic to make him sure she was interested.

[Apple1996]

@Shiprex women do approach men. That's the only way most relationships are formed now a days. It's the way it should be. Men should know their place not to approach women like a creep

[Apple1996]

@Shiprex like I'm saying tho the problem that creates is men like women who play hard to get so that's just some shit men need to fix. They refuse to give those women who approach a chance. They want the control yet can't do it properly

[Shiprex]

@Apple1996 Nowadays because men have quit approaching them sure but I think women are finding this too challenging because of rejection as they don't like it. That men find that less appealing is also a factor as they are now feeling they (like women in the past) could also hook up and be validated thus keep looking to upgrade.

[Apple1996]

@Shiprex no woman cares about being rejected lol

[Apple1996]

@Shiprex they can't hookup cuz they don't even look at the women approaching them 😒 it's like they only see women who they're interested in and want to chase but can't see the other willing women around

[Shiprex]

@Apple1996 because they seldom experience it.

[Apple1996]

@Shiprex nah even trying to talk to a man casually for any reason its hard for them to notice women. Its like they're deaf and blind by how clueless they are. I've had that experience with so many men. Like they see through me like a ghost

[Apple1996]

@Shiprex also a bar is not a place to find women for a hookup. Women go to bars to have fun. Not for sex so that's a huge part of men's problems as well

[Pohjolan]

Firstly a guy has to be high quality to be able to have a lot of short term relationships so it's not as much gaining value as signaling value.

However a woman's ability to have short term relationships does not reflect nearly as much her ability to get a long term one.

Also the higher her body count the less likely she is going to stay in a relationship. Whether this is a cause or just a symptom of promiscuity is irrelevant to this discussion.

Moreover DNA tests weren't a thing for most of human history and women could always count on their child being theirs.

To put it simply men are trying to avoid divorce and/or becoming a cuck.

So don't be a slut if you don't want to be treated like one. Its quite simple really.

[Darklydarkened]

This is a faded logic. It's a general traditional value that, for men alluring women is a success, but also for men, a woman that slept with too many men is easy to get laid with

Also women become less attractive with age, wheras men can be good to go up until their mid fourties if they've the looks and physical health

This mentality is an offshoot of agricultural societies, don't dwell on it

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmao the attraction part is different for everybody, but id say older women r much more attractive than bald fat guys💀

[Darklydarkened]

You're only fooling yourself if you think a 45 year old average woman has the same sort of social capital on such matters.

I can easily say a jaded old gal is way less attractive than a decently kept man of her age

[Apple1996]

@chocolatetwopointo 100% agreed. Older women take better care of themselves compared to older men

[Apple1996]

45 year old women are at their peak dude. I don't know what your on

[chocolatetwopointo]

thats personal preferences bro. but there's loads of

[chocolatetwopointo]

-young guys who like older women.

[Darklydarkened]

There are a lot of young guys who listen to mumble rap

They don't mean a thing

And there are even more girls who date older men

[chocolatetwopointo]

yeah cuz of money💀

[Darklydarkened]

You sure? And why do you think older women date young men? Because of their super tight hips?

[chocolatetwopointo]

probably bc they’re pedos💀 wdym super tight hips?

[Apple1996]

Younger men are better at sex so it makes sense why older women want them. Older men don't have a body or good sex game anymore. They only have money and things to offer women. Some women like that but not many

[Darklydarkened]

@Apple1996 You're not very sexually active, are you?

[Apple1996]

I don't need to be active to know these things. I've had many older men tell me that they can't go multiple rounds and take a long time to cum. There obviously ED. Like men just die down sexually with age

[Darklydarkened]

@Apple1996 Are you talking to 60 year olds? And if so, why?

And you need to be active to know certain things

[alice55]

Actually men lose value too when they go with too many women. For a man having had 2 / 3 experience is good meaning he know what he's doing but if he get with too many women then he's losing all value as women would see him as not serious and not relationship material. He would be considered a fuckboy so he's definitely losing value.

[pragmatik]

For starters that is not a general truth. Our culture (many countries, probable all of them) establishes the idea that a woman should be a virgin and a man should have sex with every possible woman out there. This idea is f*cked up, obviously. But it explains you question and many other things around.

Now, this is not necessarily true for everyone out there. There are lots and lost of people who don't think that way. There are lots of women who won't engage with a guy that sleeps around.

A lot of people contribute to the idea that I pointed out in the first paragraph even when they don't believe that. But just because it's something established.

[Joshydavid25]

Nobody really gains value sleeping around. It's just that sex is work for man.. Even a handsome man won't get it as easy as an average woman is able to.. For women sex is as easy as breathing.. Why would something so easily obtained be of the same value as something worked for? Plus women don't particularly care for virgin men, whereas it's different for men with Virgin women..

[chocolatetwopointo]

where r y'all getting this from? how do women have it easier getting sex?

[Joshydavid25]

Well, it's common knowledge.. I mean you literally complain about men or boys wanting that from you..

[chocolatetwopointo]

i have never complained ab that💀 how is it common knowledge?

[Joshydavid25]

I could probably find a post where you complain about that.. But, even if it's nit you per say, women complain about it all the time.. On here especially..

[chocolatetwopointo]

sure go on. not at all. men do it too by the way.

[Joshydavid25]

I don't know maybe I was mistaken, it's not a hill I'll die on.. But like I mentioned, it's common knowledge.. You're a teen, so it's not as prominent right now.. And no I don't see a lot of men complaining about too much female attention..

[chocolatetwopointo]

its not common knowledge tho. source? I've seen loads. personally I've never seen women do it… sooo

[Joshydavid25]

I don't think I need a source for that.. 😆😆.. And you've never seen women complain about men only wanting them for sex?

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes u do, go on, ill wait. u said TOO much attention. not anything ab men only wanting sex.

[Joshydavid25]

This whole thing was about how easy it is for women to get sex and how they complain about that attention from men many times.. I don't evidence for something so easy to find.. You can look it up..

[chocolatetwopointo]

u made a statement, u need to prove it. either give me a link or a google search. ur making no sense. u said women complain ab men only wanting them for sex, and THEN u say women have it easy getting sex

[Joshydavid25]

"u said women complain ab men only wanting them for sex, and THEN u say women have it easy getting sex."

You're making it sound as if those 2 statements are contradicting each other, when they're actually complimenting each other.. Women have a much easier time getting sex from men than the other way around. To the point where many complain about unwanted attention and men just wanting sex from them.

[Joshydavid25]

I don't have to prove something that's common knowledge.. Unless you truly are naive enough to think that men & women both have an easy time. I know you're young, but you ain't that young.

[chocolatetwopointo]

THEN GIVE ME A SOURCE IF ITS TRUE. if it was true you’d have NO problem giving me a source. so im js assuming ur lying. im not retarded like men r yk.

[chocolatetwopointo]

then maybe if you’d stop giving women such unwanted attention they’ll stop complaining, ever thought of that?

[Joshydavid25]

I'm not providing a source for that.. Look it up Ms. Smarty..

I don't give any woman unwanted attention, but a lot of men do Unfortunately.. So I wish it were that easy..

[chocolatetwopointo]

PMFG holy shit u cannot be this fucking retarded man. then give me what to search, give me an exact sentance to search so ik what kind of info ur talking ab, hurry up im waiting.
yeah bet.

[Joshydavid25]

Just Google "Is sex easier for men than women".. And "do women complain about unwanted attention more than men".. Since you can't really seem to grasp an easy concept..

[chocolatetwopointo]

SEE it wasn't so hard was it? u need to learn if u make a statement u need to be able to prove it. its common knowledge, which u obvi dont have.

[chocolatetwopointo]

i googled and i found nothing saying women have it easier getting sex? all i found was that men have and want it more frequently💀
and the second one, i didn't really ask for a source for that one but thanks anyways. ik its true, i never denied that so lol but how would u feel if u got touched, catcalled everyday? would u want that attention? ill wait.

[Joshydavid25]

Yeah, unless you live under a rock or are not out in the population there was no source needed.. It's good that you haven't did the tango yet in order to know this.

It means that sex is easier for women.. Since, you know, most women like men.. And yes you denied it..

"i have never complained ab that how is it common knowledge?"

Stuff like that..

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes there is bc u can't make a generalisation and then say ”its js common sense” bc its not. esp if its not true.
yes I meaning ME, i dont think i equal 4 billion women? retard💀

[Joshydavid25]

It's true.. you need to put 2 and 2 together..

And you also said "I see more men complain about it than women"..

So no, it wasn't just you.. Your dislike for men goes so deep that it's outside of reality.. A crush must have rejected you or something.

[chocolatetwopointo]

its not tho. if u make a statement u need to be able to prove it.
and I don't know if u missunderstood or smth, could u give me the context of when i said that? i remember i said it but not in that context.
it was js me tho lmao never really said any other women do it. never asked anyone out so dont know how i could’ve been rejected🤷‍♀️

[Joshydavid25]

What are you saying.. It definitely is.. Maybe you're sheltered, but it's common knowledge and is even said on here all the time.. Look at "Apple1996", she's always saying something like that.. Maybe you just need to grow up a bit more..
And no I'm pretty sure it was in the context we're talking about now.. Look through it yourself..
And okie dokie.. 👌..
And well there's a reason your so anti-man at only 16..

[chocolatetwopointo]

its not tho, idc what she says, if i was talking to her id also ask for a source. ok so i need to grow up for not believing u? yes bc of men. what else?

[Joshydavid25]

I knew she's not a reliable source, but she's still a woman and other women have done it on here as well.. And, no because of some of the name calling, and not knowing the dynamics between men and women it seems..

[Staximus]

Unless they are very religious, most women want a more sexually experienced guy. Most guys don't want the old town bicycle. Most women with high body counts don't value themselves and have mental problems. More promiscuous people are more likely to cheat, man or woman.

[chocolatetwopointo]

define high body count

[Staximus]

High body count- having many previous sexual partners

[chocolatetwopointo]

many could be different for people. tell me a number retard.

[Staximus]

If you need the term high body count defined for you, you're the retard. It depends on age, too. Use some common sense. You obviously know nothing or else you would be able to grasp the concept of a high body count.

[chocolatetwopointo]

OMFG JS SAY A NUMBER WHY IS THIS HARD? some say 1 is too high, while others say 10 is too high. WHY IS THIS HARD FOR U. its personal u idiot.

[Staximus]

It depends on religion, culture, country, and age group. I'm not going to write a 3 page essay on all that, make a big chart and plan a presentation for you to figure out it.

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok so how high would be too high in a woman for YOU to date? is that easier to answer?

[Agape93]

Societal sexism. That's why some schools still treat non virgins and sometimes rape victims as being like prechewed gum nobody will want

[Apple1996]

They don't but if men think this they're litterally just saying that they as men are dirty and easy and that women are valuable and powerful

[beefcakebradybatson]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...

[Summeroflove]

Men and women loose value. They just shame the opposite sex because they’re ashamed of themselves. It takes the blame off tjem for the choices they made

[lil_will_12]

Bc a lot of men are hypocrites who dont hold themselves to their own standards

[Atd21970]

This all depends. The man is almost always the one initiating the contact, therefore “chasing,” if a woman gives in, he is the “winner!” And if the woman “gives in” or “gives herself” she is the “loser,” and or the “weak one or the slut!”

[chocolatetwopointo]

okay so for agreeing to have sex she's a loser? wtf? and if the woman asks is it the same but switched roles?

[BaronVonBarron]

You need to ask women about it. It is women who value men who slept with plenty of women. Allow each indivdual and each gender to have their own preferences for their partners, including their previous sexual behavior.

[chocolatetwopointo]

no woman sees more value in a man who sleeps with loads of women💀

[BaronVonBarron]

It a man can be proud of his body count, that means, that women at least tolerate it. Otherwise he would be ashamed.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym?

[BaronVonBarron]

It seems that women dont really punish men for sleeping around. If they did, men would controll or hide high body counts. Women tolerate it, do men dont feel ashamed of it. It is women, who drive the difference in perception of sleeping around between men and women.

[chocolatetwopointo]

what would they do?💀 spank them? men dont punish women either, they js call her a whore for having sex once. how is it women?

[BaronVonBarron]

That's the point: men punish women by calling them whores and refusing commitment. Women don't do anything negative to men who sleep around. You did not even come up with a popular slur.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yes they do.. they also refuse to date them and refuse commitment💀 and sometimes call them names, but usually dont bc they’re normal human beings.. why would i need to come up with a popular slur?

[Chthou95]

You may not and a lot of other women may not but plenty of women do find men who have sexual experience more attractive than men who are inexperienced. Its part of the matr choice copying selection found in females of different kinds of species. Women are no exception.

[Chthou95]

Mate*

[chocolatetwopointo]

@Chthou95 and why is that? and u have to understand when women say they want someone experiences they dont mean somebody who’s a whore.

[Chthou95]

Women can those men whores all they want but that's not gonna stop other women from wanting to still sleep with them

[chocolatetwopointo]

define whore for me pls

[Chthou95]

Why is it so important to you

[chocolatetwopointo]

go on. ill wait.

[Chthou95]

I don't know what it is. Please tell me

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg🤦‍♀️ i want YOUR definition of whore. how many people does a person need to sleep with to be a whore? these retards istg

[BaronVonBarron]

What is your problem? Is it that you dont like men with high body count? Or is it, that you want to (or you have) high body count and you dont want it to be a problem?

[chocolatetwopointo]

nah i dont have a problem with them, the part i have a problem with is those r the same men who shame women who do the same as they do.
nah i dont have a body count im 16.

[Chthou95]

Yes men can be hypocrites and what?

[chocolatetwopointo]

and those r the men i have a problem with, if ur not one of them, no need to get offended

[Chthou95]

How are you going to stop them?

[chocolatetwopointo]

i can't. but i can try educating them, and other men. fucking whore.

[Chthou95]

Why the hostility there?

[chocolatetwopointo]

guess

[AnonAndrew]

Because of stupid, old-fashioned values.

In reality women also gain value when they sleep with men. Promiscuous women are by far the best.

[GrantArmstrong]

It's sexism handed down from a culture that saw women as property and men as owners.
To me, we both gain value from gaining skill and experience. I was happy that my wife had experience already when we got together.

[2inthepink]

"It's embarrassing to read these comments, especially from men in their 30s and older. The men who think less of a woman due to her sexual experience are just insecure about themselves. It's not a woman's 'body count' that matters

[andreasderjuengere]

Last evening I 'slept' with my girl.

It added to her ''value'' ... :D

I think it depends on the manner in which we look at things.

[HungTexan]

I think this concept it totally wrong. If I sleep with a woman her value goes up exponentially in my book. I consider myself lucky to get in her pants.

[JonCobretti]

"'A key that can open many locks is called a master key, but a lock that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock.'”

[chocolatetwopointo]

and?

[JonCobretti]

Whore is a female prostitute.

[JonCobretti]

Logic flaw.

[chocolatetwopointo]

not really

[JonCobretti]

A male cannot be a female prostitute.

[JonCobretti]

The quote is not very hard to understand. Try it.. key.. lock.. analogy..

[chocolatetwopointo]

wanna know smth? idc. ur a fucking whore bc u sleep with loads of people in my world so accept that

[JonCobretti]

Only women can be whores in the real non delusional world.

[JonCobretti]

To put it logically, An average women can get sex much more easily than an average man.
An average woman can get lots of men to run through her if she decides to let them.
Average man is not getting any woman. Only top 1% men can get tons of women to sleep with him.
So there is no equality here, which however does not mean that sleeping around is something to be proud of.

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok so what r men?

[chocolatetwopointo]

nope, js go to a bar and hit somebody up. ur literally also saying men r desperate for sex with women.
nope an average woman can't get laid easier. where r y'all getting this from? source?
average man can get a woman if he tries hard enough, same goes for women. why is this hard to understand for u💀 LMAO ok so wheres ur source for that? when did i say it was smth to be proud of?

[JonCobretti]

1) Yes I am saying men are desperate for sex with women , much more than women are.. this in turn proves that it's easier for women to find a man to bang than it is for men.
2) Your assumption that "Man gains value" is not always true either.

Here's a little social experiment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjR9F9tPNhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBtF3I7fDfU

[chocolatetwopointo]

1) lmao ok so you ARE desperate whores, got it.
2) yet men like u tell me they do? and whats ur point with the video?

[JonCobretti]

1) No one ever claimed men more "gain" value with each women they sleep. You started off with a delusional assumption.
2) Video proved that women can get sex much easier than men. Too obvious.

[JonCobretti]

If you don't mind , we can transfer our quarrel to your new question...

[WhitneySnow]

Because in conventional gender roles guys are seen as hunters and girls as prey. I do not like that. It shouldn’t be that way.

[douglas_1170]

She loses elasticity and tightness, kind of like a pair of old underwear.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wouldn't ur wife too?

[Cormac995]

Some people see it that way, but I don't. I don't care if you're a man or a woman, sluts are gross regardless.

[Sevenpointfive]

not true. a man sleeping with a loose woman does not elevate him

[chocolatetwopointo]

how?

[Sevenpointfive]

it might be a notch for some blokes but it doesn't make sense to me. you fucked an ugly fat girl and that makes me lose respect for them

[Filthy_Immigrant]

like like Confucios once said

[chocolatetwopointo]

and?

[Apple1996]

But did you know a mouth brushed by many toothbrushes is a clean mouth but many mouths sharing the same toothbrush just being dirty and spreading diseases?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@chocolatetwopointo The quote has double feelings

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Apple1996 very true, but I bet the gum will be all scratched up

[Apple1996]

The more you brush the gums the stronger they get lol

[chocolatetwopointo]

@Filthy_Immigrant explain

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@chocolatetwopointo substitute keys with penis and locks with vaginas

[chocolatetwopointo]

that makes no sense

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@chocolatetwopointo I just realize you are 16. still no excuse in today's world but maybe you will find out in 2-3 more years.

@Apple1996 Yeah, it’s a double standard, but it exists because men and women bring different things to the table. A man who can attract multiple women demonstrates competence and value. A woman who sleeps with many men loses her exclusivity, which is what society values in women. It’s not about toothbrushes or hygiene—it’s about how humans instinctively evaluate worth

[chocolatetwopointo]

@Filthy_Immigrant ok so its ok for men to be whores but when women talk to a guy she's a witch? got it.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

who said anything about talking?

[chocolatetwopointo]

men usually. whenever a girl does anything with a man she's called a ”bop”

[Apple1996]

Sorry but I don't value a man whore 🤢 most women are disgusted even if their man had a ex girlfriend in the past. This double standard seems to be online BS more than what's acutally going on irl/what's normal for nature

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Apple1996 unfortunately action speaks louder than words

[Apple1996]

There are actions showing this lol it's honestly just a incel thing to be thinking this stuff 😂

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Apple1996 not sure what universe you live in but here in reality man whores and fuckboys are the ones that get the most pussy

[Apple1996]

I'm pretty certain that men in relationships get more sex than man whores lol

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Apple1996 man whores are the dirty toothbrush

[Apple1996]

Okay and slutty women are bad locks to you but they still get men 🤣

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Apple1996 yeah obviously because they are easier to open. But they are only good for short term release

[Vegasrunner]

It's because barrier for entry is higher for men. Men have to become in order to sleep w/ a lot of women, a wom simply has to exsist.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so youd fuck an old, fat, poor woman? ur js admitting men r desperate as hell rn..

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo If you're speaking of me personally, I wouldn't fuck an old or fat women. I'd bang a poor chick, as women aren't valued on their resources. However, I have options, and currently am banging multiple chicks. The average man doest have options and would definitely bang a fat, old or ugly woman. That's part of the reason why so many women believe they are special.

[chocolatetwopointo]

so men r desperate and only want sex? got it.
and most women dont have any options lmao.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Yea, if it wasn't for the possibility of sex most men proably would deal w/ women. Why do you think most women don't have optiona?

[chocolatetwopointo]

bc many women dont live up to mens standards, the same way many men dont live up to womens.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo I think I see your confusion. Men have way less standards of men vs women's standards of men.

[chocolatetwopointo]

LMAO yeah right💀

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Glad I could educate you, it's well known thar most men date down most women date up.

[chocolatetwopointo]

look, we both know thats not true man.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Nah, anyone w/ a basic understanding of intergender dynamics understand this, it's pretty accurate.

[chocolatetwopointo]

give me an example

[Vegasrunner]

@OneViewpoint Ah so you're saying you don't have a basic understanding of intergenerational dynamics?

[chocolatetwopointo]

nope i js want to see if we’re on the same side ab this

[OneViewpoint]

@Vegasrunner, No I'm saying you probably get laid about once a decade and there are no repeat performances.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo What side are you on?

[Vegasrunner]

@OneViewpoint That only proves that you understand the value a man needs to have in order to become sexualy active w/ a lot of women.

[chocolatetwopointo]

we’ll see when u answer my question, which ur obvioudly avoiding bc u dont know.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo If you don't have a basic understanding of intergender dynamics than any answer will simply be to difficult for you to understand. Maybe once you're more educated on the subject we can dialog.

[chocolatetwopointo]

who says i dont? im still waiting for examples💀

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo If you did then you shouldn't be asking the question. This is simply an example of female deflection tactic. You don't like what you're hearing so you ask questions designed to deflect from the information. You need examples of men dating down? Yet are the ones who asked about why men gain value when sleeping w/ women?

[chocolatetwopointo]

oh god🤦‍♀️ how stupid r u?

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo You should read my take on the 3 E's of female behavior. This is an example of emotional argument. Granted you are a teenager so it is to be expected, however when womem struggle to articulate a POV the use the three E's in this case emotion. I hope this helps.

[chocolatetwopointo]

what r the other E’s💀 and how am i emotional?

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Go read the article. The fact that you think your entitled to get this information highlights your emotion.

[chocolatetwopointo]

what article? u never gave me a link or any such. still not emotional

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Simply go to the profile and read My Take.

[chocolatetwopointo]

not sure which one ur refering to but, being on ur account i saw mostly sexist posts so that explains a lot

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Not sure what's sexiest but the article is titled understanding the 3 Female E's

[chocolatetwopointo]

sexist* by the way

[chocolatetwopointo]

uhm okay so most of that and people r calling it bs and dumb. so u can generalise women, but when i say ”men rape” i should be burned?

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo I didn't see many men calling it bS on my take as most men who deal w/ females understand this to be true. Who said you should be burned?

[chocolatetwopointo]

who said men? i saw women saying it mostly. men usually. when a woman says smth bad ab men she's a witch but when men say smth bad ab women they’re angels.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Lol, the post is about female characteristics, women are always going to be upset when their flaws are pointed out, hence the E for emotion. As a man it's your job to recognize these traits and adapt accordingly.

[chocolatetwopointo]

but when i say anything like that ab men im getting bashed smh. tell me why that is.

[chocolatetwopointo]

who says u have to adapt? there's loads of women who dont do this, find one of those.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo I can't speak to that, I don't what you said and I'm not the one bashing you.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Actually this is standard behavior of most women, you're exemplifying it in this conversation. For men success w/ women mens having a lot of women, so you need to understand how they behave in general.

[chocolatetwopointo]

you would be tho.
give me ur sources, and i really doubt you’ve talked to 4 billion women.
men r js as emotional as women actually in that case. but with anger.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo This actually falls under the Exception category for women. When women don't like information they attempt to deflect, one way is by using the exception tactic. They claim that unless everyone agrees than the information is false. I don't need to speak w/ every women in the world to understand women. Not everyone votes yet we elect officials based on the majority. Men can't afford to be as emotional because we will face instant consequences, women do not.

[chocolatetwopointo]

ur making seriously no sense, ur js spitting bs since u can't give me ur sources. talking to 5 women doesn't mean 4 billion r the same. what concequences do u face instantly exactly? u do have to speak with all women before making a generalisation tho.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo It's not going to make sense to you because you're a woman and a teenage one at that, and this is a subject you're not educated on. The assumption that this information is based on talking to 5 women is a random one w/ no baring on the conversation, and falls under the emotion category. You don't need "all" of anything to generalize, thats literally what a generalizations is. It's simply a deflection tactic, by your logic no one knows anything about anything because they haven't spoken to every person on earth. It's a low IQ comment which allows a justification for information that makes you feel bad.

[chocolatetwopointo]

no its bc ur MAKING NO SENSE. anyone could see that. ok so how many women would u say if u had to guess?

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo You're kinda proving my point. It makes no sense to you because you're a women and women intpret everything through their emotions. How many women what, have I banged?

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok so first off, where did u learn that? and what emotion am i interpreting it through then. ofc the man always thinking ab sex. and im the retarded one?

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Where did I learn what? You're intpreting through your feelings. You don't like what I'm saying therefore you're making the argument that it's wrong. Who are these people that are calling you retarded?

[chocolatetwopointo]

where did u get ur bs information. what feelings, and how am i doing it exactly? bc what ur saying is complete sexist bs and u have no source. you can see in a few of my questions, usually men

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Lol, I think you mean where did I get this factual information from. The fact that you have no sources but are asking for sources is an example of you intpreting this information through your feelings.

[chocolatetwopointo]

none of my questions were answered with this response. im still waiting.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo If you have some many questions have you considered perhaps this topic may be to complicated for you?

[chocolatetwopointo]

im still waiting.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo That's awesome, it's good to have patience, most women don't. As you get older this information will become more obvious to you.

[chocolatetwopointo]

and im still waiting and no answer. if ur not responding the next time u reply im gna end this conversation. we both know ur excusing sexist generalisations. yeah neither do men by the way.

[Vegasrunner]

@chocolatetwopointo Lol, it's unfortunate that you are still waiting. Hopefully you will learn these lessons sooner than later. GL to you.

[Nazgol]

Because she's not saving it for the worthy one whose supposed to marry her and be with her in life providing , the one she will rely on heavily

[chocolatetwopointo]

why would she rely on him? and why should he be her first?

[Nazgol]

Well if u think about it what's the purpose of marriage? You gain and share things equally

[chocolatetwopointo]

so ur thinking he’ll be the breadwinner and she a housewife?

[biraileeşkadını]

The only praise for those who have nothing but their lust.

[ehatsham_hussain]

Actually you are thinking over than just your age. Focus on making your future bright.

[chocolatetwopointo]

wdym by that? i am focusing on my future too

[ehatsham_hussain]

Who said you that men gain value by sleeping with women illegally?

[chocolatetwopointo]

who said anything ab illegally💀 men say men gain value by having sex and women devalue.

[ehatsham_hussain]

It's just social defect you know

[ehatsham_hussain]

Both genders are same valueable in that case

[chocolatetwopointo]

obviously not according to men. look at the replies from my question and you’ll see a few.

[masterSir]

MOST men like pure, untouched girls. be a slut for just me.

MOST girls like guys with experience. she doesn't want to teach him.

[chocolatetwopointo]

how is she gonna be a slut if she doesn't know how it works?

[masterSir]

men don't mind teaching or letting a girl learn on the job. she'll be our trained slut.

[chocolatetwopointo]

hell no💀 no girl will be ur slut

[Chthou95]

Because typically a man who can have sex needs to work for it. And if it a man is getting laid a lot, it means he's doing something very right.

[MrTaboo]

Guys don't like used rags. Girls want guys with experience.

[chocolatetwopointo]

how many is too many for a girl and how many is too many for a guy?

[MrTaboo]

depends on age. if she's younger than 21, 0-2 at most. if older, 3-4 at most. for guys it should be the same. women need to tell their man what they want and like. And not expect guys to just know what to do.

[captain_voidwalker]

Because it takes skill and game to bed down a girl. All it takes is saying ok to bed down a guy

[chocolatetwopointo]

what makes u think that?

[captain_voidwalker]

Observable reality?

[chocolatetwopointo]

ok so u met one woman?

[captain_voidwalker]

Sweetie I've been on this earth for 40 years you couldn't fathom the amount of women I've met

[chocolatetwopointo]

oh yeah and how many have u slept with?

[captain_voidwalker]

6 of them

[chocolatetwopointo]

and women r the ones who have it easy?💀

[captain_voidwalker]

Ohh you ment to ask how many I've propositioned, in that case thousands

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmao and women r whores?

[captain_voidwalker]

When did I ever say that if anything I was calling men whores.

[chocolatetwopointo]

u said men have it harder to get girls?

[captain_voidwalker]

They do. Not because we aren't whores but because women aren't.
If you don't belive me conduct some field research go ask 10 men and 10 women if they wanna have sex with you and tally the responses

[chocolatetwopointo]

yet you’ve slept with 6 and asked thousands💀 if i asked 20 people if they wanted to have sex with me they’d be pedos. and people my age wouldn't wanna have sex with me.

[captain_voidwalker]

Well i wasn't aware of your age that's my bad, definitely no field research than lol but still my point is men will pretty much have sex with anyone. Women are a lot more picky about it and for good reason. The burden of pregnancy is on wen after all

[chocolatetwopointo]

then how are women easy and whores? if men literally have sex more and with anyone? it makes 0 sense.

[captain_voidwalker]

I never said they were, I said the opposite

[chocolatetwopointo]

then how come everybody else say it

[captain_voidwalker]

Don't ask me,

[chocolatetwopointo]

omfg useless man

[Anonymous]

A man gains value when he sleeps with a woman? That's news to me. Do you have any proof of that?

[Anonymous]

Because a lock that can be opened by any key is a pretty crappy lock. But a key that can open any lock is an awesome key.

[chocolatetwopointo]

yet a toothbrush who’s cleaned a thousand mouths is dirty.

[princeofromance]

That is just how society views that whole situation.

[Nightmoon23]

I don’t think women lose value when they sleep with other men

[chocolatetwopointo]

then why r u responding?

[Nightmoon23]

Why not

[MikeRJ]

It has to do with a concept called anisogamy.

[Deserter2]

Men and women are different. A man that sleeps around has options, any woman can sleep around, those that don't are deemed valuable for this reason.

[IWILLPLEASEYOU]

Every woman never ever will lose value unless she is not rational

[Curious2324]

Honestly it doesn’t bother me when a woman sleeps with a guy or make a difference in my opinion.

[LazerBean]

Most people don't actually thinks that

[chocolatetwopointo]

then this isn't for them.

[LazerBean]

It's not for anyone, because it's not true

[chocolatetwopointo]

yet some do. maybe js not u, the world doesn't revolve around u hun.

[LazerBean]

It doesn't revolve around you either, but obviously that doesn't stop you from acting like it does

[chocolatetwopointo]

how did i act like it does?💀

[LazerBean]

If you get your grades up in school, maybe one day you'll have the brain capacity to see 😂

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmao ok so tell me where i said the world revolves around me? and i alr have good grades lmao

[dustybiker2]

Depends on the man 😉

[lucass120]

I dont think a woman loses value

[Anonymous]

I see no value in fuckbois

[chocolatetwopointo]

didn't really ask

[Pterodon]

I don’t make the rules I just enjoy them

[Anonymous]

It's cause of the patriarchy.

[1920s_Vamp]

Sexism.

[Anonymous]

U again with your fucking bull shit 💩

[chocolatetwopointo]

lmao, mad?

[Anonymous]

Cause touching penises is gay.

[zombiewoof]

Not so fair

[sodomanie]

mens's world