I think you are either talking about one woman in particular; a tiny fraction of women; or you're just plain wrong.
I am not saying that no women look at it this way. There's certainly some who do. But I can tell you for a fact, that this is not how women generally view things.
I talk to pretty much only women on here, and I talk to them about relationships. From "does he like me" to a woman in her mid 50's having trouble in her marriage. I talk to lots of different women. Pretty ones, not-as-pretty ones, confident ones, and super-insecure ones, virgins in their 30s and high school girls (on here).
I think that, for a guy, I've got an excellent sampling of how women see relationships. I have 6 ongoing women I'm chatting with in my DMs right now (about their situations).
This is just not how women see themselves in a relationships. It's really really not. Women want a partner. They go for a guy who they feel lucky to be with. If you had any idea how much women feel they DO need to change something about themselves. I'm literally talking to a jet-setting Model who makes excellent income about this exact thing right now.
This is a girl who is confident that she's an attractive girl with a great personality (and she does have a great personality). Nevertheless, there's certain doubts about being good enough.
I have never seen a girl in a relationship where she felt herself the prize compared to the guy (except for relationships that were clearly messed-up... and where the guy was just a piece of shit. And those relationships should have ended... and almost certainly will eventually).
This is really not what I've ever seen women doing (generally speaking)
They overvalue themselves because in the sexual marketplace... they are in higher demand. If they fail to realize that all that extra attention is for sex and just sex... then they fall into this trap of feeling validation from that attention. That's why so many women want to play and not get serious about relationships until they hit the wall and then start wondering where all the good men have gone and why they're now alone... oh, now they want something serious and with no bullshit... where was that when she was 25?
The demand is real though... a 10/10 man can make a Tinder and a 5/10 woman can make one at the same time. That man might get 2... maybe 3 matches with some effort put into it. The woman though will get bombarded with so many matches and messages that she is most likely going to end up not even bother responding to any of them unless it is some superman Chad Thundercock or Tyrone Bigone. Just facts. That's why I suggest to any guy that doesn't at least look as sexy as me or a fitness model level of looks... stick to face to face interactions to find love. I digress.
Basically, a dude can walk into a bar to get laid and it's going to take some work no matter what. A chick could do the same and her work is going to be getting the fat smelly guys to fuck off long enough that she can talk to the one she actually wants.
Here is another factor to consider as well... let's say she has a job, money, and all that jazz. How many "generous" will just hand it over like a man will? That's why men don't usually look at a woman and think..."OMG, she has an education and a good career, this might be good for me."
Yet, because you provided absolutely no reasons why you believe this is true, your statements are not likely to be persuasive except to those that already agree with you. Regardless, the claim that women believe that they're the "prize" in a relationship simply because they're "more beautiful" than the man in the relationship and don't need to change anything about themselves is a broad generalization, not a fact that applies to all women. Plenty of women are merely happy to be in a relationship with the man they love as well. Nevertheless, I am curious to understand the basis of your reasoning, which would allow me to provide a better answer and expound upon my opinion. What are you basing your reasoning on?
What do you expect when women constantly get the message from men they they don’t care about women’s education, career, ambitions, or anything other than their looks?
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Some women, regardless of looks, feel that way. It's ego and hypergamy.
Because we are, period. You know it very well too.
This is why dating apps are flooded with men. Widowed men look to marry much faster than widowed women do. Men's income and life expectancy increases when they are married because they benefit from the work women do in making it easier for them to be healthy and use their time to make more money.
Reproduction is ultimately in our hands that's why you are so eager to control and subdue us.
Men are becoming more and more miserable as women are beginning to realize that they don't have to settle with a man unless they willing choose to do so, and middle-aged single women are the happiest demographic.
Insecurity woman or men will view them selves as a prize, and will need to be put on a Pedestal in order for them to be shown they love. It will never be enough and the moment they are not on the Pedestal the confidence in your attraction or love is out the window.
A healthy woman or man would not look at herself as a prize, but as your partner. They are going to balance your out with their strengths & weaknesses. They want to be respected & loved. This type of live is not Turbulent fickle or easily out the window because they know that they can work through the hard times to be with you.
A woman who knows her worth IS a prize.
If I like her appearance, behavior, personality, values, etc. and she chooses to be with me for the same reasons, she is a treasure beyond value.
Yes, there are guys who want trophy wives. But those guys don't understand value beyond money and status.
There are also guys who simply don't value women for anything but sex and as servants. They think women are inferior to men.
But healthy-minded men DO respect women. And they realize how lucky they are to find a woman who has brains, self respect, pluck, a strong work ethic, is honest, loyal, fun, admires them as much as they admire her, loves sex, and is as concerned about their happiness as they are of hers.
This is true, but it's just the game. All women for the most part believe they are a prize, but obviously most aren't. Truth is, neither are most men. For a man, the key is to one, be a prize yourself by understanding the dynamics between men and women in relationships, and two, knowing how to tell the difference between women that actually are a prize, and women that aren't. It deosnt matter if a woman that isn't a prize acts like she is, as long as you as a man know she isn't, then you can't be deceived.
Part of that is because we teach women that they are or should be, and teach men to regard them as the same. It's not necessarily wrong, but it has become out of control, yes. To make it worse, women believe that their gender is inherently good, more moral, or better just because they're women. So they don't want to believe that there's ever a such thing as women needing improvement, needing to see men as any kind of important prize, or having to be humble and realize that at the end of the day they aren't made of gold.
You also have to take into account that a lot of women don't really want to be seen as much more than a prize. It's just about image. They want to be seen as important just for being a woman who is pretty or provides sex, but still not having a lot of value in brain matter, character, or life skills. Women on TikTok and Instagram show us this all the time.
Why are men constantly enabling that behavior by complimenting us on our looks, sleeping with the first woman who gives him the time of the day and even stating how they don't care about a woman's education, personality, her goals, salary nor other things beyond just being young and giving him kids?
I think you are full of it. To a man, the female IS a prize. Why do you think every animal/human male seeks a female and considers it finding a prize when they do? Kingdoms have been lost for the love of a woman and secrets have been told for the same. If you don't think so then you had better stick to men. But I reckon your results will be no different.
Because girls like to be persued, bro.
But in good humor.
Pursuing is different from being chased.
Let's think about the phonetics and context of "chase"
To chase something is to sometimes instinctually pursue with agenda. If I chase my dog, it could be due to him running away or misbehaving. He gets fearful of me and it will negatively impact the relationship of my dog and I. My dog will forever be scared of me, thanks for that lol.
To pursue something is to follow, study and learn the workings of something. Pursuit of happiness, right - to be happy we want to find out how we can do that in a healthy way. When you pursue something, you have the big picture in mind, but you want it so bad, you're careful not to lose it. Pursuit is important.
When you pursue a woman, you're actually interested in WHO she is not what she is.
I'm not a prize.
I'm a woman, a good woman who doesn't cheat, is clean, has a life, a home, a job.
She's stable, not here there and every where.
I'm family orientated.
I'm just waiting to meet someone like me who's ready to settle down and start their committed life.
Is he a prize now.
Hopefully just my life partner.
I tend to agree with @MzAsh , women have always been revered as trophies by guys, where do you think the term "trophy-wife" comes from?
It's like a badge of honor with most men.
So if they become the prize in the relationship, they are a biproduct of an ask and yea shall receive type scenario.
Women always think their pussy is the single most exquisite, sacred, perfect, beautiful pussy that you can ever, ever have. You should be thankful to even get a look at that pussy! It’s one in 10 billion!
While men know, “I’m just one more swinging dick out here. I’m disposable. Replaceable. And just about any other swinging dick will get a crack at that pussy. It’s a numbers game. Plain and simple. Men want women more than women want men. They automatically regard themselves as something valuable. It’s their default setting. While men, well, we have to PROVE ourselves. Put in the work. Be charming. Be romantic. Funny. Vulnerable. Successful. Smart. (Because that’s really what they mean anyways) and yes, you’ve got to go to the gym and do your crunches. And wear nice shoes.
A sea of dicks, all trying to get that one single vagina. Because we all know there aren’t billions of other vaginas all around the world right now, just hoping to be filled.
Hmm I actually don't know. Not all women do this, but a lot do. I was always taught to be humble. That there is always going to be someone who is better than you in something so show humility and be a partner not a trophy. Everyone needs a reality check tbh. You may be better than most, but there is always someone out there that can out do you. Man or woman. Be humble and respectful. Be a partner, be a friend, be everything your partner needs. That's what will set you apart from everyone else.
I would like to be with someone, where we both feel like a prize to one another.
You shouldn't have to change who you are as a person and change your core or your values.
And then it's also a question of whether you're compatible with each other.
Because guys generally have to make the move to win them over, so they are in that sense.
Plus, some have over inflated egos with guys acting as if they're perfect because they look good with fake crap on their face, like who wouldn't, on top of all these marketing campaigns and body positivity movements telling them they're perfect no matter what.
Let's talk pragmatically... in PURELY PLATONIC friendships there's 'equality'.
If there is a potential for pregnancy under ANY circumstances, ask yourself "WHO harbors the eggs, ... whom possesses the womb and is inconvenienced for AT LEAST nine months? Whom does society task with single parenthood in most circumstances?" Non-platonic dating is an 'audition' NOT a hook-up.
Parenting, media. Don’t get me wrong women should be cherished and treated like women, however there is definitely a lack of humbleness in some women, and that is unattractive.
I don’t mind holding the door for you or being a gentleman, but when you feel it’s owed to you or your better then me, then I stop because I do it out of kindness not because your better then me.
Not all women believe this but majority of them do because throughout their lives because of female empowerment bullshit they are told that they are the more entitled gender. That they deserve more than men. Yet claim to want equality with men. They’re hypocrites
I think that every woman should consider herself a prize to be won. Not all women are the same. There can be brains and beauty and that combination is amazing to find. However an woman has her own personality and therefore should be considered as a prize
Because we are. We carry on your lineage. We comfort you when you come home from delaing with cutthroat men all day. We have boobs.
