What’s with all this support for Luigi Mangione? Especially by women?

[Anonymous]

Ok so you ladies find him attractive. He still killed someone. How can support a murderer? Maybe I’ll start supporting Casey Anthony because I think she’s cute.

it’s clear on camera he shot that CEO. Nothing to dispute. It’s scary nowadays women would support a murderer

[SteveSmith1985]

I am not going to go into my opinion about this. Why? Because I literally had someone end a friendship; because they were unwilling to 'agree to disagree' about Mr. Mangione. It was actually an off-hand comment. It was... kinda nuts. But it came as a complete surprise.

So I'll just say. I don't "support" him. But I get it. And I'm gonna leave it at that.

I won't be replying to comments on this one. Evidently it's a topic some people feel surprisingly strongly about. I might have said too much already.

[Asker]

Fair enough

[Chazmatazz269]

I doubt you have ever met a person who would be comfortable with a society in which any person can murder another based on a value system wholly unsupported by law and societal norms.
The challenge is simple. Would you support the murder of your favorite person in the whole wide world based on another person’s individual values?
What if thousands or even hundreds of thousands reiterated that value system?
I highly doubt you or anyone you’ve ever met in your lifetime would answer ‘yes’.
It’s a purely subjective and hypocritical position by any reasonable standard.
It just so happens to also be the very foundation up on which all of free society was based.

[SteveSmith1985]

@Chazmatazz269 You seem to be reading a whole lot into "I get it."

[Anonymous]

I support Luigi for the same reason I would have supported the peasants who stormed the Bastille, the Revolutionaries who threw the tea into Boston Harbor, or the slaves that rose up against their masters.

When you have oligarchs charging you for a service that they then don't provide, denying coverage so they can keep your money, and essentially getting rich off of your suffering, people are eventually going to fight back.

Class wars are inevitable when upper class treats the lower class like dirt. Eventually, downtrodden citizens get fed up, and revolt.

Is murder bad? Generally, yes.

Is it understandable? Sometimes.

Is it justified? Occasionally.

[Asker]

Why not get him out as ceo? Do it the right legal way?

[Opinion Owner]

I don't disagree with that, in theory, but how, exactly, would one random person go about doing that?

There aren't exactly avenues to pursue that course of action with any legitimate possibility of success. Besides, what's to say the next guy is going to be any better?

As objectionable as cold blooded murder tends to be, this particular act caused BCBS to reconsider their absolutely baffling decision not to pay for anesthesia, because their CEO got scared.

So, one person died, but thousands, if not millions, of others were spared unnecessary pain. I'd call his deathba net positive, for that single reaction, alone.

It's unfortunate that I have to say that about a man's death, but when a murder prevents others from suffering, then maybe the murderer isn't the bad guy.

[Asker]

We reject violence no matter what. I don’t want violence in my city. Do you? Now does united healthcare pull this crap of denial claims even before Brian Thompson? I never had that as my health insurance, so I dunno.

[Opinion Owner]

Let me ask you this, hypothetically:

If someone broke into your house, and was threatening your family, would you shoot them in self defense, or would you prefer not to get involved, because you don't like violence?

Now, I'm not equating premeditated murder and self defense, as those are two wildly different things. However, I can see where Luigi was coming from, as United Healthcare was, in a sense, harming people by denying healthcare.

If viewed in that way, then killing Brian Thompson was similar (but not the same) to defending another person from harm. That doesn't necessarily justify his actions, but if someone is desperate enough, it's understandable how Luigi could do something like that.

Also, to answer your question: yes, United Healthcare was notorious for using an AI to approve/deny claims for medical care, and it had a massively high error rate, resulting in something like 70% of claims being denied by mistake.

[Asker]

If someone was attacking me, yes I’ll defend myself. That’s life or death. So united healthcare always pulls this crap before brain thompson. How did killing him change anything? They won’t change overall as a company no matter who the next ceo is. That’s the thing with insurance, we hate them because how they behave. But we need them. There’s no winning

[Opinion Owner]

I agree with you, there. Insurance is, unfortunately, a necessary evil, and the little guys (us) will always get the short end of the stick.

While Luigi's murder of Brian probably won't have any lasting consequences, nor actually end up fixing anything, I think the act itself was a sign, and the surpsingly positive response was, as well.

People are getting fed up with the people in power, and while most haven't acted on that anger, yet, I believe it's simmering just below the surface.

I think the US is headed for a class war sometime in the near future, and Luigi was just the first one to act out.

I don't glamorize violence, and I don't look forward to it, so I genuinely hope that I'm wrong. Unfortunately, unless the oligarchs make some changes before more violence erupts, I think it's inevitable.

History repeats itself, and we've seen the same thing happen more than once throughout the ages. The more the ruling class hoardes wealth, and shits on the little guy, the more inevitable it becomes.

[Chazmatazz269]

So you’re good with people murdering you, your family and your friends so long as they can justify it despite the rule of law and societal standards?

[Opinion Owner]

@Chazmatazz269 It depends on the specific reason, but If I, or my friends/family gave them a one that could be considered justifiable, then yes.

It's the "specific reason" that's the problem, but there are a handful in which I think it could be considered justifiable to act on, and I were engaged in any of those practices, then by all means, off me.

[avery58]

I don't actually support him, but I don't care for the guy he killed. Sorry. Nor his wife, only feel bad for the children.

[Asker]

I don’t care for that ceo either. Just looking at his smug smile disgusts me. But it’s still not right to take a life.

[Anonymous]

You boo hooing because dude gets more attention in jail than you do irl? 🤣

[Asker]

I can careless. If you’re saying he gets attention by other guys he’s jailed with, well hell if I know! Ok I support Casey Anthony!

[Chazmatazz269]

He’s attractive and rich, that’s all that needs to be said.
There’s nothing on Earth more flexible than a woman’s value system, so long as her social and economic statuses aren’t compromised.

[beefcakebradybatson]

He's a hot white boy. They'd want the death penalty for a black chap.

[Asker]

They are pursuing that against Luigi.

[beefcakebradybatson]

I know, but the racist white broads would want the death penalty against a black lad.

[Asker]

Racist rednecks aren’t worth my time

[beefcakebradybatson]

Or mine, but they are in the ascendancy in America.