Why do a lot of modern women whine about nice guys, defend degenerate men and lie about not liking soft cuck men?

[WilliamPamer446]

Here's the deal.

Nice Guys can be arrogant or narcissistic or manipulative but the nicer you are to women the more higher standard pedestal they put you on to point where u can be gaslighted and abused.

Women coddle degenerate men whine and call u a incel when u criticize them for it

Then when a guy is kind and strong and morals respectful but firm on aggressive or degenerate behavior they whine about this man and call him a incel

[LazerBean]

I have not noticed that happening. All the guys I know who are my age and are kind, strong, have morals, and are respectful are married.

However I do see a lot of people who think that they are the above described kind of guy but are not who struggle.

[WilliamPamer446]

Lol a lot of people struggle if u try to be good like actually try respect you

If u make excuses for toxic aggressive behavior and don't try Ross above it then I'm critical

[WilliamPamer446]

"All the guys I know"

R u annoyed with there kindness and integrity

[LazerBean]

No I'm not annoyed at all by kindness and integrity, that's why I am friends with those guys to begin with. My husband has the most kindness and integrity of any man I know, and I had a lot of girls upset whenever we started dating because they were after him.

[WilliamPamer446]

So my point proven thks girls whine because he is good guy with integrity they collectivize men and put us into two groups "nice guy" and "bad boy" and they assume Good is weak and Bad is strong so the whine about nice or good guys incessantly because they put them on pedestal and get angry when they have integrity or backbone an expect them to tolerate everything but get annoyed/irritated with it to because they respect strong men more

[RedInnocent69]

I don’t they do. We’re no better… Queen on the street, freak in the sheets

[WilliamPamer446]

U mean we want someone to be fake Ladylike Sweet and then edgy freaky "bad girl" bt mask it in public yes

Hypocrisy on both genders is a problem but that's not what I'm asking

And expecting someone to be two opposing things is objectification

[RedInnocent69]

That’s the point. They do like nice guys, who aren't afraid to occasionally pull them by the hair, use them like a fuck doll, and walk out, until they come back with tea and croissants in the morning. The degenerates are liberating because it gives them permission to be degenerates too. They want both. Being the balance between tough and sweet is the paradox of the most high value guys

[WilliamPamer446]

U can be tough and kind AKa strong and kind but they want a kissass and a degenerate strong to abuse them so they can whine about it

[beefcakebradybatson]

And ignore older, astonishingly handsome black cowboys?

[NathanDavis]

did all of that happen to you?

[Chocolatetwopointtwo]

no we do not.

[WilliamPamer446]

not you bud but a lot of other people

[Chocolatetwopointtwo]

we dont