Is the insecurity of todays woman driving HV men away?

[Vegasrunner]

[Anonymous]

I dont believe so. There's only so many high value men out there and many women quite frankly won't accept an average guy even though they are themselves average and also to be honest many women if you compare them to our mothers, grandmother's and great grandmothers are overweight/obese, can't/won't cook, can't/won't clean, wear too much make up, drink too much alcohol, do drugs, have piercings & tattoos, won't look after any man etc. While our mothers, grandmother's, great grandmothers were average looking in their day but compared to today they would be well above average. All an average woman has to be in 2024 to be thin.

[Vegasrunner]

@Anonymous Interesting points. By definition there's not that many HV men around if there were there would be no such thing as HV. There's even fewer that are going to make the average woman their main and even fewer going to settle for one woman. I do agree that women won't accept an average guy, which has ironically given all the power to the top 20% of men in my opinion. The compared to my grandmother's thing is false, some parts have validity, won't cook, clean however on average thinks like makeup, drinking are similar, median weight of woman was actually bigger back then for numerous obvious reasons. It's simply more a reflection you feel about an era you werent around for. I also think like most women you're a bit confused about what's going on. Yes an average women needs to be thin to get banged, but to actually retain a man that she respects, loves and admires, she needs to bring a lot more to the table. Whats happened however is society has attempted to convince women that them ran through is the same as a man who is having sex w/ a lot of women. Ironically as women do that they just keep adding bodies to HV who have less incentive to keep them.

[Opinion Owner]

60% of women are now obese, so being average and thin makes a girl 8/10 whereas in the past she'd be 5/10. Its top 5% of men that are average. To be a HV man you gotta be:
6ft + tall
Handsome
Intelligent
Wealthy
College Educated
Charming
Athletic/muscular
Six pack
Hung
Under 40
White

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner Lol, that would still be less than it was 2, 3 generations ago. If you're talking about looks most women are 4's or 5's many use makeup to push themselves to 6's 7's. Any guy who's ever woke up to a one night stand knows that. Reasonable mods can disagree about the percentage, mine is 20% based on stats, history, imperical, and anecdotal evidence. Partly because your metrics are flawed. Age and race doesn't determine a man's value. The HC of Bill Belichick is 74 years old dating a college student, and a disportionate number of black, and Latino men are viewed as sex symbols the world over. Also men have two huge advantages.
1. Men can make up for what they lack in one category, by increasing another.- Kevin Hart, little Wayne are under 5'8 but runthrough women on a daily. Broke guys in prison, have girlfriends waiting for them, and ugly billionaires have the hottest women on their arm.
2. Mens bar are lower than women's- You are correct women want a lot of things from men, and you yourself have admitted that only a small percentage of men qualify, what that means is that if one of those men even want you, you would have to share him. Meanwhile all men really want from women is sex, silence and sandwiches, something that all women can provide. I realize because of your inexprience it's difficult for u to understand but think about it logically. If I let one of my women go, she has to go out find, another man at or above my level, who is then willing to keep her, all I have to do is find a woman willing to open her legs for me. I can find that a lot quicker than what she is looking for.

[Ariesman81]

No. It's the dishonesty about their insecurities that's unpalatable.

[Vegasrunner]

@ariesman81 That was profound.

[Ariesman81]

Well, that's cause you and I can separate ego from what's real

[Vegasrunner]

@ariesman81 Agreed, you provided one of the few answers on GAG that made me learn something.

[Ariesman81]

😂 You're still paying half the bill

[Vegasrunner]

@ariesman81 Nah, I'm not a big 50/50 guy. It's my job to provide and protect, it's a womens job to be pretty and submissive

[Ariesman81]

Tell you what, you can grab the next one.

[Vegasrunner]

@ariesman81 The next women? I don't need permission for that, I just take what's I want

[Ariesman81]

Women? No... we're talking about the bill.

[Vegasrunner]

@ariesman81 Gotcha

[Anonymous]

That's why I prefer dominant girls, they are definitely not insecure.