Are MGTOW and Red Pill men toxic?

[Anonymous]

Yes

No

[Jubejube]

I am going to say no because there is no maybe or some option, and the question implies all.

Basically, for the most part probably. But there are degrees to red pill and mgtow.

There is the mild version that is basically like 'hey women's issues are great and all but no one is looking at issues men have'. I personally think this version has a good point.

Then at the other end it the ones that you typically associate with red pill and mgtow. These I would definitely consider toxic.

The degrees in-between are up to personal opinion on how toxic or not toxic they are.

[Asker]

I’ve literally never heard any MGTOW or Red Pill say women’s issues are great and all.

[Jubejube]

I am sorry that I am summarizing and not using exact words that have actually been said at some point. The point still stands that there is degrees of red pill and mgtow.

[Asker]

This may be true. However, based on observation, the vast VAST majority are toxic. I wonder if it’s a generational thing- most of them are dudes in their late 30s and 40s. They were over medicated as children for problems most didn’t even have. Over mending of children was a huge problem then. I think it’s hindered their mental health.

[Jubejube]

Even if it is a majority doesn't mean it is all. It is no different from people saying all feminist are toxic.

Actually I think if you look closer you will see that mgtow and feminist are basically the same but with different opinions.

While I think over medication is an issue I think there is a lot more issues that are causing it. There was a documentary that a feminist did exploring the mgtow movement. If you care to expand your viewpoint, check it out. If you just want to cry about how mean someone is and get other people to agree with your viewpoint, then don't check it out and continue to cry in your echo chamber. http://theredpillmovie.com/

If your goal is to try and convince me you are right, then that is not going to happen. I am solid on my point of view and know why I think the way I do.

[shangri-Ia]

if by mgtow you mean men who now refuse to date women completely, i'd say yes and no: you shouldn't disconnect from either sex in general, just learn to distinguish good people from bad people and you'll be fine. the problem is that women in general are now lost cause as they've lost much of their personal responsibility to try to make healthy relationships in general-- just generally rucksacks of entitlement, greed-fueled envy and discontent, and nonsense

[Asker]

So you’re saying we shouldn’t make generalizations yet you just made one about women?

[MrOracle]

A few are, but most literally just go about their day like anyone else, and are simply either MUCH more careful about who they date, or they just don't try to date at all. You'd likely never know.

Of course, there are a few loud-mouth pains-in-the-ass, but there's always going to be a few of those in any large group or movement.

[Asker]

Nope sorry all of them are. Go to any forum of theirs. They don’t deserve a good woman.

[Jubejube]

If you already had you mind made up, why did you ask people's opinion?

[Asker]

@Jubejube to see what others thought.

[Bandit74]

Depends on how you define the term. They may have a negative lens through which they see the world but most are not violent and well behaved in public. I think they just vent a lot online.

[evangeline777]

Saying that MGTOW and red pill men are toxic is equivalent to saying feminists are toxic.
There are a lot of effed up people in the world, but is it worth to look into it why they become MGTOW for a start.

[Asker]

I have noticed there aren’t nearly as many angry toxic feminists as their are MGTOW and Red Pills though. I mean all these dbags do is bitch and moan and try to destroy people’s god given rights as humans.

[evangeline777]

I respectfully disagree. It depends where you look. I see that most feminists are equally angry and toxic.
And while the feminist agenda looks like they set out to turn men into women and shame any women who don't agree with them, mgtow and red pill simply distance themselves from toxic women. I've yet to see a mgtow march or protests.
But this is my opinion only.

I'm curious what you mean by this "try to destroy people’s god given rights as humans."

[Asker]

No many of them are toxic. Ultra feminists, MGTOW and Red Pills. They complain and point fingers until their point is lost. Strange you suggest we should investigate why many of the participants in men’s groups have become toxic but you don’t suggest we ask the angry feminists who pervert the true meaning of feminism. Can’t give compassion to one of you can’t the other.

[evangeline777]

Your question was about men that's why I only said that.

I'm curious what you mean by this "try to destroy people’s god given rights as humans." you didn't answer to this.

[Asker]

Many MGTOW and Red Pill men don’t feel women should have the same god given rights as them. They say women who do want that are trying to be men. There’s even some who feel hitting women, rape and even denials of voting rights should be the new thing.
Joeblow123 is a prime example.
Beyond that though 1 out of every 10 of these men are decent. The rest blame women for everything. Go to any forum of theirs. I’ve looked at feminist forums and there may be one or two who dehumanize men. However, there are plenty of people there who will call them out. Not with the men’s groups though. Most of them deluge when they hear about bad things happening to women. I’ve done my research.

[Anonymous]

Some are, some aren't.

Some of the meb don't hate women but have had enough of dating and have just given up and keep to them selfs.

Others are the "all girls are whores and only go for chads" and yes they are toxic since they convice men that are lonely to give up.

Am just glad that when i was teen (before the age of 16) this wasn't a thing since i often thought to myself why don't girls like me and could have easily become one of these idoits.

[Anonymous]

This is the best way to know if you are a dumb slut or not, because mgtow men are so, so gracious to the rare respectable woman, but so scathing with the legions of godforsaken sluts we liberally apply the term ‘woman’ to in this modern age

[Jerkface4444]

Incel ^

[Opinion Owner]

@Jerkface4444 say that to my face fuckhead ud get smacked so hard u wudnt know what hit ya

[Jerkface4444]

No you wouldn’t do shit loser.

[Opinion Owner]

@Jerkface4444 yeah I would and if you saw me you wouldn’t even think about saying what u just said

[Opinion Owner]

@Jerkface4444 im a grown man kid and I have friends with mob connections don’t fuck with me

[Jerkface4444]

You have no fucking friends

[Opinion Owner]

@Jerkface4444 i am well liked actually lol I never have enough time to chill with all my friends im always turning them down im a busy guy

[Opinion Owner]

@Jerkface4444 people respect me

[Jerkface4444]

Whatever you say just don’t write moronic shit online because it’s gonna temp me to make fun of you thanks

[Opinion Owner]

@Jerkface4444 u got a problem with me shaming sluts? Stupid little cuck can only get some from dirty whores and doesn't want em respecting themselves so they won't touch men like you?

Yeah too bad bitch men should have to work to get laid, women giving it up easy are actually letting you down because you won't rise to any standard, you'll just be enabled trash

[Jerkface4444]

You got a problem with me calling you an incel little man?

[Jerkface4444]

You got a little dick also lol

[Opinion Owner]

@Jerkface4444 Lol I'll be straight with u, it's 7+ inches and 6 in girth, most women find me literally perfect, but keep trying loser

[Jerkface4444]

Bullshit

[Jerkface4444]

You gotta baby dick and ya gettin defensive now

[Opinion Owner]

@Jerkface4444 lol dude ur making all these assumptions about a person you don't even know XD stop being so jealous

[Jerkface4444]

Oh I can tell you got a wittle baby dick and no pussy goes near it.

[Asker]

No actually every forum I’ve ever been in all they do is put women down. They even glorify beating and raping women. Even if a woman is a hard core feminist- which most straight women aren’t- doesn’t mean they deserve any harm to come to them.

[Asker]

No they absolutely do. Get on any forum of theirs. I’ve done my research.

[Jubejube]

@Jerkface4444 don't mind me, just sitting back and watching you slap around a little bitch baby.

[Asker]

Grow up guys. Worse than junior high girls calling each others skanks.

[Anonymous]

Why, becaue they hate feminists? You seem to hate them. My sister in law is red pill. She is appalled at what feminism wants to do the little boys and she has a son/

[Asker]

I was just told By MGTOW follower women should be raped for wanting to vote. I have gone to many of their forums and it’s all the same. Hatred for women in general. It’s sad because there are some very nice ladies out there.

[Opinion Owner]

I dont endorse raping women for wanting to vote. That's a crazy person

[Asker]

You also shouldn’t have Ill feeligg B. V. s towards someone who simply wants the opportunity for provide for their families. That’s all true feminism is. It’s the ability to reach your full potential in and out of the home. As children of God, we were born to reach our potential. You have no right to hinder someone either.

[Opinion Owner]

I dont hinder anyone. Most feminists are man hating shrews. that is what I object to. they are who I hate

[Asker]

I think you’re talking about lesbian feminists, not straight. Not saying all lesbian feminists hate men.
Some do just like some gay guys hate women. 🤷‍♀️

[Opinion Owner]

yes but isn't it hypocritical to hate on men's rights activists when you claim that is all feminists arew doing?

[Asker]

I think you need to read what I said.