Why do men believe in the red pill?

[Anonymous]

[MountAverage]

People fall for demagogues. They feel the need to follow a cult leader who offers simple solutions (that aren't actually solutions) to their problems in their tiny meaningless lives. One key factor here is that they find scapegoats and put all the blame on them. In the case of misogynistic psychopaths like Tate the scapegoats are obviously women. In the case of other demagogues / cult leaders like Trump, the scapegoats are immigrants, scientists, "liberals", trans people, and many more.

Putting the blame on everybody but yourself is very comforting and confirming. And being part of a "movement" (i. e. a cult, like Tate's scam or Trump's MAGA cult) makes them feel powerful and important and enlightened (a phenomenon that also explains most conspiracy myth followers - these people feel like "the chosen few" who know "the truth").
In reality of course demagogues like Tate and Trump don't give a single flying fuck about their followers. They just use them to enrich themselves. Literally. They drain them for their money. Tate is a literal scam artist using pyramid scheme type of tactics. Trump's countless fundraising scams (in and out of politics) are known to anyone with half a brain by now.

If you want to know why many men fall for Tate's drivel specifically, just take a look around in this very forum, in this very thread alone - read what some of the male users say about his (absolutely insane) views and about women. Pay attention to their paranoid conspriacies of how men are being prosecuted in society. If your beliefs are that level of batshit crazy, it's no wonder demagogues will take advantage of it.

[MCheetah]

Because it's accurate? And because most women nowadays have no regard or respect for men other than resources and protection?

I mean, Andrew Tate is a pure huckster and con artist/scammer, but how exactly are most "red pill" beliefs inaccurate? Cause it's going to take more than shaming men for not licking the female boot to get them to "snap out of" the supposedly "wrong" philosophy that men should worry about their own happiness instead of being subservient to women, corporations, employers, and a society that doesn't appreciate them.

Though I can't tell if I'm Red Pilled or Black Pilled. Maybe Blood Red Pilled and on my way to black. Either way, having self respect is a lot better than being some bitch's footstool, like society brainwashes men into being. Men having self-respect is "So misogynist, though! Like OMG! You don't want to be a paypig on OnlyFans and have women treat you like sh*t daily? INCEL!"

[Asker]

Are you a red pill? Usually, black guys sleep with the white guy's wives while they watch with a cock cage on. You must be short or something because I have a hard time finding black guys that cannot get women.

[Sixgunsound]

Mood, facts, and whatever else the cool kids are saying these days

[MCheetah]

@Asker
Reality is not cuckold porn and being black doesn't mean anything unless you're built like Michael B. Jordan. Most women don't even like black men; that's a myth. And yes, I am short.

[Lookingforthetruth]

didn't stats show that like 50% of young black men are childless in the US?

[Part2603]

Lol, the same people advocating feminism are the same people that can't define what a 'woman' is.

[Sixgunsound]

@Part2603 OMFG thank you!!!

[lucas262]

I been mgtow since 2015. So I call myself a mgtow. A man going his own way.

Taking the red pill is essentially what everyone in the ,, manosphere,, has done.

Red pill being a metaphor for waking up to your reality.

I don't know who came up with all the pillz. I think they just describ the different directions men want to take

Blue. Simps
Red. Self improvement
Black. Doomer
Purple. Fence sitter

Then you how save yourself black man SYBM

And male rights activist. MRA

Mgtow is a demonized word in the algorithm you'll get demonatized so f. ing fast. But to me we are all of us men who have chosen to take the rp and go in whatever direction we want our life to take.

That is mgtow. Back in the day those men dreamed one day men would become self aware enough to see the games played on them and determine to live their lives on their own accord. And here it is and it's beautiful.

[MCheetah]

@lucas262
I'm red pilled when it comes to myself and self-improvement, but black pilled when it comes to society. I don't think things are going to get much better, if at all.

[Agape93]

Because they feel entitled to certain things or behaviors, and when faced with reality that it's not how the world works, they get resentful. Funny, they think it's rational and normal, but if we act the exact same way for the same type of reasons, we are seen as hyper emotional bitches.

[Anonymous]

I think it's easier for people to blame others for their own problems rather than looking inward. Not to say that some of these red piller's don't have a point but we live in a world where everyone has a point, it doesn't those points apply to everyone in the population.

[FilmGuy93]

The red pill is actually separate from Andrew Tate and the kind of thing you're asking about. The Red Pill is a massive compilation of data made from tens of thousands of men around the world about dating, career, etc.; it's not any kind of ideology, just data.

As for the question you're actually asking; young men believe in it because it makes them feel vindicated and powerful.

[lucas262]

Been mgtow since 2015. Long before tate was even an idea.
It's not a movement or ideology. It's a philosophy.

It's awareness and coming to terms with the hard truths about women, society and yourself. That is the red pill. Taking the step from indoctrination to self sovereignty. And it's a long painful process. So much so that I look back and wonder if I'd be happier being asleep in the blue pill. Because once you know, you will never unknow.

[StormPigeon]

Vindicated and powerful? How about safe and secure? Blue Pillers get destroyed in life and in the dating market and by women. The Red Pill can save you a lot of trouble.

[lucas262]

Saves lives.

[FilmGuy93]

@lucas262 there are a lot of ways to deal with women that don’t involve treating them like constant liabilities

[msc545]

Except that they ARE constant liabilities and a chronic danger.

[Part2603]

@lucas262 My mgtow... do you mean that you never ask women out on dates? I get how it works philosophically, bitches ain't shit, but how does it work practically?

[msc545]

Prostitutes. They cost less they don't treat you like crap you get exactly what you pay for and they're nice people for the most part. Obviously, they are also for the most part extremely good at sex and enjoy it.

[FilmGuy93]

@Part2603 you could definitely go the pay to play route. I personally found a lot of success by figuring out how I can honor the women in my life, setting the terms of my relationships, and learning how to be a man women feel good about following. In my observation, the vast majority of women want to submit to men and will be fine with whatever they are given, as long as they feel appreciated, respected, and find the man emotionally satisfying to be with.

[msc545]

I think you know as well as I do that essentially no man ever gets sex for free. One way or the other we all pay for women to spend time with us to have sex with us to do anything with us at all. I find it paying for sex directly is a much more honest way to go and doesn't involve a lot of manipulation and subterfuge.

[FilmGuy93]

@msc545 Yeah... just depends on what you're looking to get out of the situation, I guess. If all you want is sex, then prostitutes are probably a good way to go.

[msc545]

I admit it isn't a complete solution but it sure as hell beats having to put up with some entitled bich who acts like her vagina is made out of solid gold and you have to pay for it every time you use it.

[FilmGuy93]

@msc545 It's weird how much value women place on their vagina. They really think it's their golden ticket in life

[msc545]

It often is actually.

[lucas262]

There are mgtow who are married, dating or swear off women altogether and go ghost
Like I said its whatever you make it.

Taking the proverbial red pill and Learning male and female nature/psychology, westen society It's veiw of you as a man, coming to terms with the hard truths and deciding what your life is to be now.

That is a man going his own way. MGTOW He's now making informed decisions on how he lives his life.
Before the red pill he was asleep. Post rp he is awake.

It isn't hating women, it isn't picking up women it isn't about inceldom or celibacy or self improvement really tho that is the path most people will take and encourage. It's entirely up to you.

Once you know western society has made women a privileged class and men disposable. you'll never unsee it.

And don't think oh women elsewhere aren't western women.
All women are women just not all are feminist.

[TwinTonyz]

I was raised exclusively by women. They'd taught me to be all the things the progressive talking points are circulating now:
Get in touch with your emotions
Be kind
Listen to other people's ideas
Always offer to help others
Make sure you put your woman first
Don't be scared to ask for help
You don't have to be manly
It's okay to be obese

I spent the first 23 years of my life being soft-spoken, servile, attentive, generous, and loving. My friends thought I was gay for much of my life. I'd accomplished nothing. People walked all over me. Women used me for moral support then cast me aside. I doubted everything about myself. My mother and family resented me. I wanted to die. I tried to kill myself twice.

I've only been a man for 4 years. In that I'm stunted compared to those who were allowed a father figure, but starting late is better than never starting at all. Only "toxic" male role models ever told me it was okay for to set standards for the people I allow in my life. They were the only ones who would expose the truth in that acceptance and desire for soft boys isn't real. It's a lie pedaled by cowards who can't grapple with the reality of their own desires, that the things they hate are also the things they crave. I embraced the reality that no one is coming to save men, that no one cares what your struggle is. If you're a man you must prove you're valuable as a human being and that is evidenced only in what you can do, not what you want to do, or what you think about doing.

They acknowledged what I'd came to know but had been trained to disbelieve: Men have no place in society which is truly accepted. If you listen to the programming you're this weak unlikable bot just like everyone else worshiping the ground that your assigned betters walk upon. Not even your own people like you, because they believe every man is just a potential predator. Alternatively if you live for yourself and have some pride and purpose focusing on what fulfills you they target you as a toxic sexist predator because you rightly recognize that women are of all varieties being good and bad, and are in fact not objectively demigods and queens.

I've been the way they designed me to be, the boy they want to turn all boys into, and it didn't work. They still hated what I was, and I hated myself in what they made me. They still hate me now, but I'm secure and confident in the way I'm living. I'm always improving and striving for better things, training my mind and body to uphold the kind of excellence they'd wanted to reserve for their protected classes. As a man I know I can only depend on myself. For the first time in my life, I'm perfectly content with doing it on my own, as I know I can figure this out, simply because I must.

[ZackBan]

Because for the past 15 years every day men are being demonized for being men.
We get called names, accused of things we would never do even accused of thinking in ways we would never think and no matter what we say we are always the villain.

It's easy to sway a generation of men that have had to live through that since they were kids. Just tell them "I hear you" "I'm here for you" "I belive in you" and they are yours to control. THAT'S the red pill in a nutshell.

Even on your post the one women that answered as of this minute casually threw shades at the entire male population just for existing.

The fact is "men cannot win" and the red pill is the only movement saying "yes we can" and no one outside likes that hence even more hate and more sexism

[lucas262]

You have a poor understanding if your knowledge goes back 15 years.

I think most critics take a look at mgtow or what it's become and laugh at pick up artist and scammers.

Mgtow is more than a boy gaining self confidence at the hand of a con man its a philosophy of living your life on your terms. Whatever looks like. Making and informed decision after years of propaganda and bullshit.

[ZackBan]

My experience goes back 15 years since 15 years ago I turned 10 and began to integrate society and see how men are treated even teenagers.
I get that MGTOW is an older movement and the question was about the red pill which is not quite MGTOW but follows that path as well.

Pickup artists have also changed over the years and yeah they were never truly popular but in a way I found that they preach the most positive of all the messages. At least the new wave of PUA's are actually teaching men how to become better socially by learning how to talk to and flirt with women but also by learning how to build a social circle and how to deal with people in a positive alpha way throughout your life in order to become a higher value guy.
Difference is while the Pills point out a problem and cry about it and preach a message of hate. PUAs actually try to fix the problem as best they can and offer people the chance to live the life they want.

[lucas262]

There is definitely a difference in mgtow and whatever the redpill community has made of it because it began simply enough.

Puas from the most iv heard measure your worth and ability as a man on how many women you sleep with. I hate the usery I respect them teaching game, female nature and self improvement to men but it's all geared towards getting what you want and makes their whole message feel disingenuous

[ZackBan]

Pua is a mixed bag I agree that a large portion of that industry is filled with scammers and guys with no grip on real life dating but there are a few hidden gems and those guys can really someone's dating life I know I got some good value from them

[lucas262]

Even a stopped watch I'd right twice a day.

You can learn something from anyone even if it's only what not to do.

[chicosuave]

true. because of feminism> Pua, the red pill was born.

[Summeroflove]

Depends on what you mean by red pill. That could mean a lot of things depending on who you ask.

If you mean MGTOW, incels, and other similar groups. Because they use women for sex or want to use women for sex. They have a problem with women as well.

So good women avoid them and if they are with them. They run. So they wonder why they get stuck with shitty women. Because they are shitty men.

You can’t want to marry a virgin and whore around yourself. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

a woman whose saving herself. Wants a man with the same values.

[lucas262]

Mgtow isn't about using women for sex. That is more of a pick up artist thing but even they will say it's about pick up not usery. Which I doubt.

Mgtow is about self awareness and self sovereignty. Waking up with the red pill truths and determining what your life is to be now.

Like a cover all title. Pua? Sybm? However you now decide to live your making informed decisions.

[Summeroflove]

@lucas262 I don’t know what self sovereignty has to do with anything. This is the same thing feminists say.

Look dude. Nobody cares is someone doesn’t want to have a relationship. A lot of men and women think that just them refusing to date someone is going to stick it to the other sex.

When in reality they are simply sexists and hate people for the way they were born.

I don’t do hook up culture. Believe in saving myself for marriage. A lot of MGTOW people as well are some of the biggest man whores there is out there. I have seen their videos where they ramble on and on about sleeping with women.

Most of them are pieces of shit and wonder why no halfway decent woman wants them. The same as feminists who hate all men wondering why no decent man wants them.

Sure in these days in some areas (I’m blessed in a good area) good people become harder to find sometimes. I get that.

Most “red pill” truths are absolutely true about some women. The same as there is negative behavior in men that feminists speak about. That are also not all men.

Red pill truths are waking up to a lot of other things MGTOW has just a psychological operation and controlled opposition. Has hijacked it.

[Summeroflove]

They want to control both sides. But most of the right isn’t like that. They think having man hating feminists will make men angry with women.

Sure there are some incels and you have piece of shit men who attract pieces of shit such as themselves. But that’s another story.

[lucas262]

I also believe in waiting till marriage. The puas have infected this community since the beginning. Self sovereignty in that men learn to prioritize themselves in their lives.

It's not about hating women i Certainly don't.

Mgtow is commonly mistaken as this anti relationship movement it isn't. As iv said some are married or have gfs or choose to go full on ghost mode from women. It's whatever you make it upon hearing the red pill truths.

[Summeroflove]

@lucas262 well. It’s part of life. You HAVE to interact with women at some point or another. It’s not like you can refuse to talk to all women or life would be pretty hard.

Both men and women should have morals, values, and standards

[lucas262]

Of course not, but you'd be surprised the length some men will go to.

[Summeroflove]

@lucas262 to have sex? Sure. Those men who only want sex. Wonder why they get low quality women. Because they’re low quality.

A woman with any morals or standards is going to stay away from someone like that. Even if he got a date she would not go on anymore after he just feels entitled to sex.

Yes. There is bad women out there just like there is bad men. Who start off really really good and abusive behavior comes later on down the road.

[Summeroflove]

I don’t really date online. I don’t like meeting strangers. I don’t like someone I don’t know very well in my house and I don’t want to go to their house.

I like to know someone a bit before I have that level of trust

[ronaldo75]

MGTOW/Incels/Redpillers/Mansophere are a creation of woke feminism. WOMEN created this shit. These guys act exactly the way millennial and Gen Z feminists have been acting for close to 10 years now. Entitled, bitter, self-absorbed babies that think they're owed the world simply for existing. That was taught to girls and women starting from 2013 or 2014 and is still going strong today. What did you think... there wasn't going to be a population of loser males that were going to act the same way? Y'all created this mess, now dont complain.

[Oigit]

Eh, I took the red pill, blue pill, purple pill and black pill. Just threw them together and called it the chaos pill. Since in one way or another everyone taking said pills is creating chaos or adding to the chaos that is present, why not just embrace chaos? Let's just summon beings like Aries, Lilith, Hel, Eeris with The Chaos Gods and get the party started?

[MCheetah]

Everyone knows Lilith is a f*cking whore!

[Oigit]

@MCheetah And that's one of her best qualities. Also don't act like Adam wouldn't be tempted either.

[inhua]

because there's truth to the red-pill that can be backed up by countless studies, data, anecdotes and by simply observing the world around you.

it's got nothing to do with cults, ideology, radicalization. it's just facts, science and simple rationalization that can be hard to swallow if you're too emotionally invested in believing the lies told to you since birth

[D_Bone_Steak]

I would first ask what's up with blue-pilled men and then look at how the red pill is different. Take a glance at the purple pill and even the black pill. Once you understand where they overlap... throw in the PUA's and you start to get a picture.

[lucas262]

Not really. The blue piller is a man still asleep. It's not necessarily all his fault, he's not a bad guy for being what he's been conditioned to be.

Red piller is a man who is now awake to his reality. Female nature. And western society's view of him as a man.

Mgtow is what you are a man going your own way. Once you decide to make informed decisions from now on in how you live.

That is it. Being asleep, waking up and self sovereignty.

The black pill is I'm touchy on but it's seems to be very doomer like.

The puas I think of as an infection in the mgtow community they always where.

The purple piller is just a man who still holding our hope not all women are like That. And he's right not all women are these vindictive, petty bitches. But.

All women are women. And once you under human psychology you'll never unsee it. At that moment he'll be red pill. Full acceptance.

And the swear off women think is taken too literally. It's a philosophy not a lifestyle there are married mgtow and ones who date not just picking up and using women no.

[chicosuave]

why dont you do your research first before you start judging. or anyone in general. 70 percent of women initiate most divorce. Men are treated horribly in the system. We fight wars, we get put down by society. Women are always shaming men for anything they do and they are never happy of what we do. So What does andrew tate do. He is trying to defend our masculinity and our nature.

[BigschlongEnergy]

Because you gotta protect yourself I’m all about Fucking Girls and If that makes me a chad So be it but I Ain’t ever gonna enter a girl without having a condom on unless of course She’s gonna suck my dick then I’m fine with No condom and I hope for the best.

[Lookingforthetruth]

Men believe the redpill because there are too many real life examples where its theory holds true. Most men join the redpill because the advice and information they got from blue pill teaching does not line up with what happens in real world. And often men get into the redpill to understand why their failing in dating or understand why girls say one thing but their actions are the exact opposite of what they preach.

[TheSpaceGnome]

A bit of a long way to say that most men want real love, and that the problem is most women aren't willing to give that to anyone (even though they want to recieve it).

But he's right. If you pick based on utility, rather than love, you will never recieve love, because you're not a good person.

[lucas262]

My friend. Iv been mgtow for 7 years. Studied male and female nature. The hardest red pill I ever took was this.

Men and women love. They love each other.

But women do not love men like men love women.

They do not. They cannot. LOVE like men. It is far more opportunistic and conditional never unconditional love.

This is why cris rock said only women, kids snd dogs are loved unconditionally

Whereas a man is only loved as he provides.

[TheSpaceGnome]

@lucas262 Mgtow is a crock of shit, as is feminism.
People are individuals, they love people who are likeminded, and the mistake people are making is trying to get love from someone they can't relate to.

[lucas262]

Maybe your right. But iv yet to hear a powerful enough argument to convince me otherwise

[TheSpaceGnome]

@lucas262 While most women are selfish, so are most men, they both want to recieve real love, but neither will give it, because they aim their sights at incompatible people, or at least a chunk of them do.

The reason women are less often genuine, is not because they are women, and not because they can't love, it's because most modern women lack a sense of self.

You look at most men, they have a strong sense of their hobbies and interests, its diverse, it lets them express individuality.

But more often than not, women are basic, with being a mom or wanting a guy as their "indentity". Their hobbies often limited to dolling themselves up, traveling, housework, or talking about other people.

Rare is the woman who has interest in video games, art, engineering, science, etc. these are mostly men interested in these things, things that asd that extra layer of "this is who I am".

[Chthou95]

Because what society teaches you and your parents as a young boy doesn't work later on for a lot of men. So the red pill wakes you up to a harsh reality on how things really work and what it actually takes to be attractive as a man and to always work on your value

[Hypermotard1916]

It is because like feminist they are narsciscts who dont care about other people but themselves. but blue pilled men are alos the same who want validation. so everyone in west is a parasite, and it will take the collapse of the western corpse to fix it...

[msc545]

Men believe in the red pill for many reasons but the most important one from my point of view is because the red pill describes accurately the oppression we all experience particularly coming from women and coming from society in general. I used to think women were important. Now I know for a fact that my brothers and myself are far more important than women are.

[normalice]

Right wing misinformation has been trying to crack the formula for converting normal male sexual frustrations into votes for tax cuts for the rich. This red pill nonsense is just what they came up with.

[mark000h]

Left wing terrorist

[normalice]

We're not the ones who stormed the capitol, sweetie 🤷

[normalice]

Oh, and here:
open.substack.com/.../andrew-tate-the-misogynist-larp-radicalizing

[Anonymous]

All this different color "pill", MRA and MGTOW stuff is nothing more than males standing up against the overwhelmingly gynocentric nature of today's western society as it becomes increasingly clear no one gives af about them.

As long as women's problems are society's problems but men's problems are men's problems, society will continue to break down as it is now.

[Anonymous]

My guess is... there are some crazy people in this world... including some very manipulative women whose actions damage people. This leads some guys to wanting an answer and the red pill ideology provides that.

It is the mirror opposite of women being scarred from dating men of poor character and then feeling abused and traumatized.

[lucas262]

It's not an ideology. It's a philosophy. Very different from feminism in that it'll never be socially acceptable and supported by big business, education or government. Why do you suppose that is? If it's no different than feminism?

Says your 45 plus. With what you've head these men say about women particularly western women and society can you say they're wrong? Even halfway wrong?

[jamartheg]

Because it’s factual the government wants to control us

[Asker]

That's for sure.

[Subarugirl]

Because it makes them feel vindicated and powerful. Essentially it is a mentality that allows them to blame the very people they are trying to attract because they do not have the characteristics those people are attracted to.

[lucas262]

Then you have a very poor understanding of mgtow

[Subarugirl]

@lucas262 really? Then when do so many MGTOW spans so much time taking and complaining about women instead of just going their own way like they claim they want. Wouldn’t just be easier to call them voluntary celibates?

[lucas262]

Mgtow isn't about celibacy that is a common misunderstanding. Some are married, have gfs or go monk/ghost women altogether it's whatever you make it after you take the red pill.

Women make up a big part of a man's life and his motivations we built this world for our women and children. Teaching men to live for and prioritize themselves is counter culture because in our society men aren't supposed to care about themselves like that. Men do for others.

Me personally I am celibate but that because it's against my faith to sleep with someone I'm not married to. If I wasn't I would want to even being a mgtow.

[Subarugirl]

@lucas262 you must not understand what MGTOW is. The acronym literally stands for men going their own way, the whole purpose of the group is The men of the MGTOW movement aim to live their lives with no female contact…. You can’t strive for no contact with women and not be celibate.

If you want to get married than you aren’t MGTOW

[lucas262]

Like I said it Is a common misconception.

A man going his way? What way? He decides. He's taken the red pill now he can make informed decisions and will choose which way he wants to live.

There are married mgtow, mgtow with gfs and yes men who go ghost and break all contact they call them mgtow monks. Going monk mode. Ir because puas/fuck bois and say women are for play only not relationships.

people VERY often get it mixed up but it's a rather mixed bag because people take this information in many different ways.

But at it's core its about self sovereignty. Your the one deciding what direction to head in.

Because men have been conditioned to be blue pill.

And from 1st hand experience whem you take the red pill and see the world's true face it can be a very jarring thing to feel you've been programmed and lied to your whole life. I'm sry this was long.

[Subarugirl]

@lucas262 no that is the definition. Are you referring to a different one?

[lucas262]

I was just explain what mgtow actually is, part of why it is and the common misunderstanding about it

[Subarugirl]

@lucas262 that description is more a kin to led pill philosophy no MGTOW

[TroyDT2]

"Red Pill" seems like an overly broad term to me, as I see it used as a catchall for everything from fully-blown misogynists to guys who are simply opposed to marriage under current laws.

[genericname85]

i don't even know what "red pill" means anymore. originally it meant waking up from delusion instead of choosing to stick with delusion. what does it mean now?

[kespethdude]

The "red pills" are not men, they are incels. Enough said.

[BlueScorpio]

I'm sorry can you explain what the red pill means again for men?

[Minxxie]

It's easier than taking personal responsibility.

[ronaldo75]

MGTOW/Incels/Redpillers/Mansophere are a creation of woke feminism. WOMEN created this shit. These guys act exactly the way millennial and Gen Z feminists have been acting for close to 10 years now. Entitled, bitter, self-absorbed babies that think they're owed the world simply for existing. That was taught to girls and women starting from 2013 or 2014 and is still going strong today. What did you think... there wasn't going to be a population of loser males that were going to act the same way? Y'all created this mess, now dont complain.

[lucas262]

Mgtow/red pill Is all about personal responsibility.

This guy is comparing mgtow to 3rd and 4th wave feminism

Except our philosophy is rooted in cold logic and hard truths.

I don't know who you've been listening to and I can say there are a lot of numb nuts no one should hear but the philosophy stands true.

[Minxxie]

@ronaldo75 Again all you are doing here is blaming women... that is the *definition* of not taking responsibility. A lot of these manosphere guys think that a 10/10 supermodel should love him even though he doesn't bathe as often as he should. It's ridiculous and childish.
The manosphere and incel shit is for unstable little boys.

Real men, real ADULTS of either gender, follow stoicism. If your life is not going the way you want, if women don't want you, it's your fault and only you can change it. ranting at random women on the internet will never bring you fulfillment or happiness.

www.youtube.com/watch

I won't be wasting any more time on you. I hope you get well soon.

[lucas262]

Neither of you understand what your talking about.

I shower nearly every day and maintain my hygiene besides that so that sound very specific.
Never believed a 10/10 is what I deserved not what I asked for most of all I hope she's a good person too few of em nowadays.
I agree victimhood is the wrong mindset, nobody takes enough personal responsibility for their own shit and mgtow is a big pusher of self improvement.

Ranting about women?
I could rant about men to. If you want to be technical I blame the men who built and maintain our society more than the women who live in it.

[LimitedBenefits101]

Same reason why women believe in astrology signs.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

because it keeps us safe and free from all the hell and traps the politics and society has put on us men since the day we are born

[Anonymous]

The belief that not all men are worthless pieces of rubbish destined for extinction…how extremist.

[hafinjun]

You mean the one in that star trek movie that if your planet took one it broke out in a black hole

[grega239]

Maybe it reflects their personal expefience

[AngryCarl]

It's in a movie (The Matrix). Why would Hollywood lie to us?

[archnightt]

People would rather blame the world than work on themselves.

[Deserter]

Blue pill is for betas

[Joker_]

you're asking why men believe in reality

[Fuentes]

Sneako Is a reject and so is Tate lol

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Best nobody else has a better idea

[pascalfornalz]

cos your pastor taught you.

[postaldudePL123]

Because of Morpheus

[Anonymous]

Because it’s true.

[Rockstarrrrr]

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