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I never bought into that BS... if I feel I need a good cry, I do.
Good for you for not being influenced by society's stupid opinions.
Society never said men can't cry? Where did you hear that? It's jus that we don't want to
See even he was about to cry but he had to suck back those tears because people make fun of you when you're crying
“The person who cries is not weak, the person cries because she/he had to stand hardness for a long time”
because those people are idiots full of toxic ideas about masculinity.
Yes, exactly!
i think maybe its because people think men should always be strong and not let his guard down. that if they cry their showing the weak side of their self and others won't find them intimidating. But after all, we are all humans whatever gender we are. we have the right to show our own emotions without being judged by others and i sometimes remind my male friends that its okay to cry and let their feelings out if their feeling down.
I don’t know, it’s not true. I like when a guy expresses his emotions rather than bottles them up
Because women do think that. It's not so much a matter of if women do or not, it's just a matter of where is the line. It's always "well, men can cry... just don't be a baby". There's always some qualifier added to it. The line varies from woman to woman and day by day and according to her mood. And with a mysterious moving line that mustn't be crossed, the safe way to act is to stay far away from it. Hence, don't cry.
Men say that. Not women.
Men say it because women won't. It's good advice.
Trust me it isn't. As long as you have a genuine motive, they won't think any less of you.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Well that's the rub, isn't it. What will they consider "genuine" is the question. But even that doesn't fully articulate it. It's more basic than that. It's: does it bother them emotionally to see it. And "Genuine" reason or not, that doesn't mean it's not impacting them. Of course crying over someone dying is lower risk, but it's always a gamble and obviously there's a bunch of other stuff that is then higher is risk that you can't do. And it extends beyond crying, like taking a punch the wrong way. Just in general there's a need to avoid displays on weakness because you can't trust women to not be bothered by it. Especially if you're single, if you don't already have a high degree of leniency that comes with an established relationship then it's going to go poorly. So at the very least it's good advice if you're a single guy to not put this on display. It's also just bad for mental health if you don't have any support. So again the need is to default to emphasize resilience.
See this
"crying over someone dying is lower risk, but it's always a gamble"
Is where we disagree. It's not a gamble. Not even close. And to answer your question, yes it is impacting them. That impact being that they feel sorry for you and share your pain.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 When things go well.
Arguably we don't want to for the same reason women don't want to be seen as having a big appetite. Other people of our gender would circle us like vultures.
Fair, but it depends what they're crying about.
If his dog passed away; completely acceptable
If it's about the tension between the Ukraine and Russia... no
I agree with you on this one, a man have feelings and emotions too and a man can cry and doesn't have to be weak as long as he doesn't cry on everything like women 🤣
Well it's as if they woke up in the 1920s and had all the social mores and misunderstandings to live up to boys Don't cry I've never known that to be a true statement because I am a male and I do cry you.
I hope future generations will weed this silly notion out.
I hope so too.
Because it's not ok for a man to cry, men are supposed to be stronger and tougher than women, if a man cries he is either weak or gay in general, and plus women don't like it when a man cries because it can be seen as unattractive, no woman wants a weak man on their side, men are supposed to man up and have the balls in the relationship, if a man cries then he is seen as a pussy, women already have a pussy they don't need another one.
Not all women have that mentality so please don't generalize us.
Well weather you say that you know It's the truth.
Yeah well what do you think of man crying over the death of his pet or a loved one? Or how about crying over a sad movie? Does that make him a "pussy" in your eyes?
*a man
Well if a person or pet he knew that was close to him died then he just needs to take it like a man and not get so worked up about it, he just needs to look at the bright side and keep living his life, there is more to life than just a death of a family or pet. And as for crying over a sad movie? I mean come on, why would you cry over a movie I mean it's just a movie come on, Regardless, in any situation a man is in that he cries he is a pussy in my eyes, men need to be tough.
Unbelievable...
It's not unbelievable it's just the way it is, so might as well deal with it.
I don't think you've ever experienced any type of pain, or even have loved another human being. If a man gets a phone call and finds out someone dies while he's at work and he waits until he gets home to deal with that, in your eyes he's STILL a pussy to you?
You're almost as toxic as my father but even he cried when our dog died.
I have experienced that type of pain before and I didn't cry over it, I bottled up my emotions and was strong about it, you may say it's toxic but in my view it's not, men have to be strong no matter what the situation is.
@sirderpsalot123 Don't listen to him. Some people have zero empathy.
I came here and spit out facts about the male gender, everything I said is the truth.
Your opinion is not an undeniable fact. You even said yourself, that is your view. I'm not saying a man should cry because his boss yelled at him. We're talking about a loved one dying. Crying is a normal response. You will never be able to provide any sort of credible source that suggests otherwise. Being completely emotionless is not healthy. Completely understandable if you don't want to cry in public, but there's nothing wrong or "weak" with crying behind closed doors in situations where that is beneficial. Most men (even men who believe men shouldn't be emotional) at least agree on this. I hope you don't have a son.
There doesn't seem to be anything unhealthy about not crying to me, and besides crying is seen as a weakness and that's why most guys including me don't do it, women/girls on the other hand can cry as much as they want because they're not as strong as men, and I will have a son and I will raise him to be a man like me and his grandpa.
Are you also going to tell your future son that if he died that would just be a minor inconvenience to you? You'd just be able to get over it because shit happens? This is beyond "toxic masculinity" you have as much empathy as a serial killer. This is my last comment. Feel free to get the last word in.
Of course I would get over it, shit happens and we have to get over it.
Cos it looks weak, it's jus a fact, you can't honestly say a man crying looks manly.. it looks girlie...
It's like me saying a girl playing with a action man covered in mud is girlie... It's not.. it's the opposite,... Same here... Crying is a girlie thing
If you can't understand how it looks girlie... Come back to reality and take a look at it seriously
@gladtasmearpootin no woman wants a bitch ass nigga who cries all the times a mouse on the counter would have both of you squealing like girls
@TsAubreyKate yeah
Nature made us tough, it's nothing to do with society pressuring us to act tough like many think.. cos even in caveman days before we could communicate... I doubt men really cried that much back then too... Because naturally we are fixers.. if we have a problem... We solve it instead of crying about it
It's all because of testosterone
Honestly I can kind of understanding girls wanting to remove gender stereotypes/ gender roles and having girls be able to play football without judgment, or guys cry without called girlie.. or so on and so on... It is kind of dumb
But at the end of the day... Gender roles are there to differentiate between the two genders... If there was no gender roles and girls had short hair.. guys had long... Guys liked pink... Girls liked pink and blue.. girls liked motorbikes and Barbie.. and no one ever followed gender roles... We would all look like genderless trans, you wouldn't be able to tell which gender is which, we'd all look like those short hair lesbian dikes... That's not a good thing... It's good being able to tell the difference between genders... So at the end of the day.. trying to make girlie things like crying manly.. is jus stupidity
Crying is weak whether you are a man or a woman.
It doesn't solve your issues, it's just a lack of ability to handle your emotions.
Exactly. There's no point in crying. Only stupid people cry
@Ihatevegans So crying over something devastating like death or a fatal accident makes a person weak? Stop being a jerk.
Oh so it's wrong to cry over someone's death? That makes someone weak in your eyes?
Crying over death is a natural response because it's an overwhelming emotional situation.
I cry over the loss of pets and loved ones too.
But I'm sure you are not talking about that, since men cry equally as much in overwhelming situations.
You want us to cry about pointless crap that women cry about, well I'm not going to cry about that, to me those are non issues that it's stupid to cry about.
I don't think many people would think that if a man cries over the death of a close relative or friend. If he cries because he stubbed his toe, that would not go over well.
Because according to what people think, men should be strong and be brave. In the real result a man that can cry for whatever reason is a strong man shows he is vulnerable
We've been conditioned to this way. It's the way our fathers and grandfathers and their fathers we're conditioned.
Because their mental ability do not allow to think out of box
It is ridiculous, they are strong whether they cry or not
I think they are. Sorry. It's because they're supposed to be able to handle tough situations without breaking down.
I guess it depends on the situation. If it's over something sad like a friend or family member passing away then I understand that. But I still don't like the stereotype about it. I have a three year old cousin who's turning four this year and I wouldn't discourage him from crying when it's appropriate. Hopefully his parents teach him the same.
Or even crying over something happy is fine.
@Cherry234 Crying when you're happy is okay once in a while. But if this happens, it's usually a sign that your life is very dark and cold. The happiness causes this emotional reaction because it's so rare to feel happy.
Also, I'm sorry, but I completely disagree. I think that kid shouldn't cry. (But maybe I'm wrong; I don't know. Maybe he should just stop crying when he's 7 or 8. I admit that I don't have all the answers when it comes to raising children.)
@Jamie05rhs Tears of joy are thing. I don't have the answers either so I'm not sure.
I think life is tough, and its not supposed to be easy. But as long as you know when to put the tears away and buck up then its fine. But too many people think tears solve some type of problem. They don't, they may be a healthy way to deal with emotions... but if your counting on sympathy to get through life, then you put that shit away and buck up.
Crying over a death or something else really traumatic is acceptable. Both men and women should have the freedom to at least do that w/o judgment or ignorant comments. It's a normal way to react. We're not robots so you can't expect people to hold back their emotions all the time. This is directed at both you and Dave.
* a thing
@Cherry234 I agree with Dave in what he said.
It's definitely okay to cry if you're grieving or feeling sad, though. That's just something that women do more than men.
@Cherry234 well given that there's no context to question other than asking about crying in general. I stand by my remarks, of course crying is acceptable in given situations. But in general men or women that cry at the seemingly drop of a hate are probably emotionally immature or insecure.
I have dated people that cry at a drop of a hat about some pretty petty reasons because honestly they lacked the emotional maturity to express their feelings in a healthy way. As far men go thats not a good look for a man. And for a women it can become a bit much at times.
@DaveJord I understand what you're saying. You made some good points and I agree with them.
@Jamie05rhs Yes, it certainly is. Only a psychopath has a problem with that. Some people really are morons (there's at least one person like that on here).
Because it’s true… nah I’m just kidding. Just a stereotype that has float around, that all men should bottle that in and be tough lol
I don't see it as weakness. But I'll fall in love with a guy that cries for me and before me
Men... if you must cry... cry alone and talk to the most high about it.
The only Being that matters: God
There is a interesting story about this. But i m thinking to share it in public
They think we're weak if we cry at certain things. Crying over burnt fries seems silly. Crying because a loved one just died is legit. No-one is out to get you. That's why crying over burnt fries is silly
Because they are. This chap puts it more eloquently, however:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/t6dALp4VPU8Because they are? Common sense. Why do people call a beat up nasty car a piece of shit? Because it is? Im not even sure what you're asking tbh.
My question is pretty self explanatory.
So is the answer. Clearly anyone who cries and can't hold it in is emotionally weaker than one who can't hold it in. Your question is like asking why is water wet? It is the answer to itself.
*can
Because of gender roles and generations of social conditioning.
Sensitivity is genderless, it's time the society understands that it's better to have guys who cry than those who are reason for others to cry.
Toxic masculinity basically
I just dont care how it looks anymore. Touching or emotional Things make me cry lol it just happens sometimes
@Still-alive That's normal.
Indeed. Just some still view that as being weak or ‘too sensitive’
I've never felt the need to cry since I was a child, nothing bothers me... Whether it's girlie or not I jus have no desire to cry.. so doesn't that mean generally men are less emotional?
Sure some are more emotional like a girl but I think that's why a lot of men see it's as odd for a man to cry cos it's typically not in our nature to do. We are fixers. If have a problem, we fix it.. not cry About it
@Ihatevegans i dont see it that way. I try not to generalize the sexes anymore and see it as an individual thing instead. Some people are more probe to emotions than others make or female. They aren’t lesser because of these traits. Im just not believing in all these gender descriptions anymore
It likely has something to do with the fact that only weak men cry
Because of toxic masculinity
if its like your dad dying, OK, go ahead, but if you cry like a girl over some bullshit then you deserve a beating to uhem... man you up.
Ask a macho guy it's because you're an beta male. Ask a beta male and we cry because we can't take the pain of life. Plus women think you are weak. And that means you aren't good enough for them.
Men are supposed to be strong and able to keep their emotions in check.
Depends on why you are crying.
Broke a nail? Get a grip.
Parents died? Have a hug.
Old, outmoded social convention
It’s childish and immature a man should have better control over his emotions than that
Yes at the end of the day we just don't want to cry. It's as simple as that
I’ve heard more men saying this than women.
Like sometimes, I’d be watching a movie or show with a guy and when a male actor started crying, the guy would start making fun of the actor and saying how lame he looked.
It depends what they are crying about
Because some people are right.
Good way to know you're part of the problem...
Cuz were taught not to by friends or family
i think guys should cry when they get hurt
It’s toxic masculinity.
Because it's not appealing to most women
They aren't weak they are psychos.
You sound like the psycho here. And you really had to go anon to say that... says a lot about you.
@Cherry234 I think she's saying that the people who say are psychos.
I'm trying to give her the benefit of doubt here lol
@sirderpsalot123 Maybe I'm misunderstanding what she's saying. If she clarifies then I'll apologize. Is she saying that the people who say men are weak for crying are psychos? Is that what you mean?
*I think she's saying that the people who shame men for crying are psychos.
That's what I meant to say. @Cherry234 I could be wrong. Some people really are this dumb.
@sirderpsalot123 Oh okay. I still don't know what her intention is with this answer so we'll find out.
Its called tears of passion and strength!
Ignorance
Because they are
So you're part of the problem too...