
Why do some people think men are weak if they cry?


Well I'm not sure what you mean by this .. I can say this I'm a big boy and if something in my life happens and it affects me depending on what it is if it's about it a family member or a friend or somebody I love and it makes me sad I'm going to cry I could care less what other people think it's not about them it's about me morning a friend or a loved one and how deep my love was for them and I'm hurt I'm in pain and if tears come out of my eyes they are meant to come out of my eyes pic as I am sad I don't care how other people see it I don't care if other people judge me. Honestly it's not their business and I don't care if they see me being weak because I love somebody and I'm in pain as a matter of fact I would rather have somebody think that I was weak because of it because I would definitely surprised them if it if he was to come down and the complete opposite but I don't even care about that it's a matter fact I don't care about anything at that moment except for that loved one's going to be missed and what's going through my mind at that moment is all the best times that we had how much they're going to be missed
I can tell you how weak I am the other day I was answering a question on here it was an upbeat happy question and they got three quarters of the way answering it and all the sudden I got a Vibe and vision and something was telling me something about this person at the question I was answering I was supposed to be picking out songs that were upbeat to make me happy motivated and very last song I had to change it because this Vibe was talking to me telling me to send something else that meant something to him that he wanted her to know and I had tears coming down my face as I listened to the music of this song I could feel him on the other size and I could feel her still mourning him and he just wanted her to know that he was there with her every single day and wants her to snap out of it and I mean I had tears just streaming down my face so if somebody wants to call me weak for that they don't know what week is if anybody was to call anybody week for crying and they don't know what love is they don't know what compassion is they have never found themselves if they're too worried about what other people think about when they cry
It's just how a lot of men are raised (myself included) I think it's something that parents do subconsciously. If a little boy falls and get hurts, he'll get a pat on the back and a "you'll be fine" and girls get comforted. Even when I found out a good friend of mine died, I waited to cry until I was by myself. It's definitely something I'm trying to unlearn. It doesn't help that a lot of women also have the same mentality.
Thank you
Thanks for the MHO 😎
Why is the pain of girls only identified? Why are boys only the bad guy?
Society have very high expectation from men. In previous generations men were considered stronger than women. Women were expected to be soft and vulnerable. In today's world where women situation have improved, the situation of men remains the same because no one really gave importance to men. All just cared about how difficult it is to be a girl because the condition of previous generation for women was like hell but no one really cared about the condition of men who didn't even had any fault in that. Most people have a mentality that if one person is like that then all others of same community are like that. You must have heard of the quote, "All men are same" which is completely false. Present generation men are judged by the previous generation men (heartless, strong) and present generation women are judged by previous generation women (soft, vulnerable). Society doesn't expects men to cry because they are expected to be the stronger one and not really emotional. However logically this have nothing to do with gender. Women can be a bit more emotional as they have high rush of hormones in them but men even have all rights to be emotional. What happened if they are physically stronger? they still have a heart which hurts when they are in difficult situation. People think a man weak if he cries because they belong to old generation mentality when men had all the comforts and no reasons to cry (except stress from their work).
And war like lots of war.
If men cry ladies get disgusted if they don’t like the reason. If men cry it means they’ve been broken by something… you think society favors men and women equally? Society’s always favored women. Even without rights men have had the real expectation. What is expected of you from society right now? At best look pretty at worst be a man… but for me? Make that bag, work 40+ a week or I’m lazy, be okay with marriage even if it’s against not only male nature but also legally speak into a bad investment, be okay with men’s rights currently or else “I’m hurt”, accept women how THEY want to be not what I want from a woman, accept that if divorce happens I lose my family and children while making divorce more common and easy, being a straight white man im the enemy of all of society… when your beaten in the streets it’s a national thing because “women’s right” “this is the misogyny of the patriarchy” “feminism”!… meanwhile I have to be a minority to be heard for my suffering and struggle.
I’m tired of this topic. You women think the grass is greener get your fucking asses over here and ILL stay home with the family. I’ll give up all my bullshit rights and take over your old job and you can die for our country and the family and have all the expectations while society puts you down… and you ladies are just as guilty as society.
@VanillaSalt Society will never change unless such topics is brought over. Society will change if we change ourselves because we are the society only.
@apulu_3 you think it’s that easy? Feminists are the equivalent of MRA so why are MRAs treated so bad while feminists are celebrated? If feminists hate being called names like honey, sugar, and other misogynistic names why do they ask stupid shit like who hurt you, and call men incels and such? Furthermore women wanna be more so when they make it better they expect better… the average women improve from 0 but men are still giving their best but now their not good enough. Hell now we’re trash because women don’t need men?
When women complain people listen… when men complain people say man up… the expectation don’t change. While nobody expects much from women they succeed and if men stop succeeding to complain everyone has something to say… double standards. We don’t even get equal say in the arguments or rights.
@VanillaSalt yeah it's not easy. It have to start in a point though. If we won't face the comforts then at least need to prepare for the future generation so they don't have to go through what we went. Grass won't become greener unless you take care of it. It's never easy in starting. Now people just realized this thing. It's just the start.
You and I arnt even talking about the same thing… we didn’t “just realize this thing” women changed the game and expect men to play by both the new rules (women are strong independent and don’t need no man) and the old rules (chivalry tradition and step up)…
Men always have to lead or women don’t like em and when women have a problem it’s a problem for all of society. It’s happy wife happy life… she’s the prize…
This shit “the grass won’t become greener unless you take care of it”… dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. People always want what they cannot have even if it’s not all that good. As long as it’s an improvement from what they currently are…
Your justifying your bullshit with pretty sounding words but the fact remains… MORE is expected out of ME then YOU! I have to step up to be YOUR equal. I have to “man up! I have to get better… “where have all the good men gone?” I’m tired of being told I’m not enough at this point your not enough… you can’t just make shit 50/50 and think it’s fair. I promise I have put more effort into my career the last 3-5 years then you have in your whole life.
Let’s calm down a minute your points valid and your defending men saying We’ve had to work hard at societies expectation and that’s not fair… I agree… but your making a mistake thinking men have to work with women to make a better society and the future generations important. Your wrong. Men made this world and tried to improve it for their families… women benefitted. I know your too young but I can’t imagine 20 years ago women being raped in public middle of the day and there not being 20-30 men killing the son of a bitch that did it on the spot. That’s the direction we’re going now. And I can tell you why.
Your equal… some men are bothered by this it’s like you worked your ass off for a future and then someone else just being given a future for free… in high school Ide fight for a woman being mistreated now though… I’m likely to be sued and actually fucking lose! Back then ide help with a flat tire… today men might get arrested for assault for saying something wrong or touching her inappropriately (on the fucking hips in a non-sexual way)! When a draft happens it’s men that sacrifice if they want to or not! Women get the CHOICE! If marriage ends (and it’s likely it will) it’s men that pay men that lose their kids… when it comes time to work hard it’s expected of men… when it comes time to sacrifice it’s men… when it comes time to benefit it’s women. It’s time women proved their actually equal. Their worth the fight cause I don’t need your career or degree… I make enough. I got family and friends your supports replaceable… your body isn’t anything special anymore… I got prostitutes and porn or hookups if I wanna go that route.
We’re not equal @apulu_3 you just have to be pretty and you get privilege I never will. Meanwhile to be human I have to be tall, good looking, smart, capable, with a future… I will never see us as equals because we’re not. You will never be held to the same standards as me.
@VanillaSalt Not all people are same. Everyone have different personalities and all are separate individuals. Why always judge a person based on gender
Because that’s what society does to us.
@VanillaSalt There are different types of individuals in society. Yes it is true that nowadays women are given more importance. But society does change too. In previous generations this wasn't the case. Men were given more importance, at least in my country. Now maybe due to that past people are giving importance to women only totally forgetting about men. Logically if a person in community is bad then not all from that community are same only because they are relatable. All are different and have unique mentality in their own ways. If we need to change the society then we need to change ourselves first because we are the society only. If we keep agreeing to what society says then it won't change anything. We should be the change instead of waiting for the change.
I agree but for women being pissed was enough… in my country women are given all the consideration.
If I had the ability to kill every human in the world besides the ones That cared about me do you know how many people would be left? Turn that around…
I agree completely with what your saying however you shouldn’t expect men to just join you in trying to make the world a better place. Women didn’t seek to make a better world they sought to make the world better for them. If you think about the difference between them points you’ll understand. Men will make the world better for them because most men are alone. Women don’t care about most men and society like you said only cares about women right now.
To be clear… I hate what women in my country have become. The only right they gained in the last 20 years is the right to get fucked by as many guys as they want and for people to think it’s okay. Everything they do is okay without accountability while I’m held to every standard they deem acceptable. That’s not making me like society or wanna fight for it… on the contrary if I could keep just the people I care about I would be okay killing every single human being in the world right now. Ide still consider it if it was a 50/50 tossup… do you understand how much I hate society now? I don’t wanna work together yo make a better world I wanna make a world without the people that cause this shit storm in it. I wish for the bloody death of every person who had a part in making everyone hate everyone.
I spent years trying to be better and treat people like I thought everyone deserved… I have nothing to show for it. As a matter of fact when I stopped caring about the suffering of others my life’s so much easier. And you want me to give that up for what? A lifetime of struggle to make a better world for who exactly? I’m not having kids. I don’t have anybody I gotta care about besides my niece and… I’ll give her a good life and her alone a good life you and your generation will not benefit from it because I’m much more spiteful then any woman. I’m not going back to being the self-sacrificing altruist. I believe it’s time women took up that role then for the on that cares for me I’ll change… then through my children’s children you’ll start to see a better world.
Idc how dark that sounds or bad it makes me seem. The fact is this is the uphill battle you can expect trying to make others sacrifice for people they feel don’t value them.
@VanillaSalt Oh okay. For me I will still try because I have that much patience level.
I have a 20 year challenge for you… you probably won’t remember but look back 20 years from now… see if the life you live is something a man would have had. Consider the difference in how people would see him making the choices you make and failing where you fail.
I would like you to think about a guy in the same place in life whom made the same choices would be treated in society… 20 years from now when your my age and can understand half of what I’m saying.
@VanillaSalt The man will be treated better than me of course because my country is still men dominated. I have faced gender discrimination.
How unfair… you can understand my suffering then… but idc. You don’t get treated like shit for being a man or woman then go back to being nice just because one person understands you… I understand and feel for you but I won’t expense an ounce of effort to help you.
@VanillaSalt I'm not asking for help anyways. I can stand up on my own.
And you’ll have to. Nobody’s going to be there to help you now. The men that would have gave up a long time ago.
@VanillaSalt yes I know
To be fair. It’s really easy to say that you think men should cry online where you can’t you can’t see him crying or know why.
I believe many women like the idea of this. But when it’s happening and they know the reasons for said crying. It all depends. Also women say hurtful things to men intentionally and if a man started crying then and it was your fault I dono how accepting of the tears would be. Anyways point being it’s very circumstantial. Crying is part of emotions but I agree there is a time and place where it’s acceptable and that goes for Male and female. Cuz women judge men pretty harshly regardless of their natural caring instinct.
Which could also be a reason why men don’t cry as often. Cuz they are friends mostly with other men usually. And men are By nature less empathetic so crying isn’t something that gets a lot of care from their counterparts. Anyways that’s my opinion.
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Because they have been brainwashed by sociality to be thinking that. Just like when you hear a certain things that someone said on a news story and the other ones are saying the same thing that most people not all believe it. Even if it was nothing but a lie. You can imagine how much the world will be if they were all being honest with themselves and their emotions and feeling like to say anything about a person being weak. One of those is not going to have a good day if they see the strength to focus on the fact we are going to cry at one point where the next isn't. The only one that is weak is the only one who is not being honest with themselves and their own problem. You are not holding your emotions in to put them on someone else to deal with their own way being cowards. If I'm going to cry for my own reasons I say fuck what anyone says. You are going to always see people who follow the whatever one certain way people say that it should be. Nice to think like you are and you are way ahead of the others that think that way.
Look at the way social media and news channels are. My opinion on the way social media has only made the world anti social and has changed the way people are now. I remember when FB came out and I was on there for no more than 30 minutes and I have never even touched a social media site not going to. They are almost run by the same corporations is unreal an alder doing is pushing what they want to in peoples minds if they don’t agree with somebody’s opinion they remove gum from their entire start until they get everybody to think the same it’s like sheep you put them all together and put them in the film they all run together and Nelson and their continue walking together into slaughter house because they’ve been taught that way in push that way in brain works that way from for existence and that’s one thing I think that is worse that cancer and slowly killing people from thinking about themselves first and I suggest question everything before you do like everyone says it is. You are going to see more bullshit going on and how it will change how you think. You will be shocked to what you see and learn.
Girls are being brainwashed by society because they wear pink and like Barbie.. y'all should be playing with action made and like boy things if you wanna stop being brainwashed to like girl things
Or do girls play with and do girl things because they want to.. and men don't cry because they don't want to? Hmmm think about it
When I left my FIRST really nice corporate employer, The Firestone Tire and Rubber Company, I had been there 8 years, and started after college graduation. I had many, many friends, lovers, tennis partner, basketball teammates, volleyball teammates, and wonderful work associates over those 8 years. In addition to that, I was leaving home and moving to California. The day I left, I CREID LIKE A BABY, all over all of those mentioned above, including my tennis partner. Additionally, to make it more emotional, it was at Christmas time, and everyone was going after to the Firestone Country Club for Christmas dinner and celebration.
My boss was a bomber pilot, I believe in Korea, and was considerably older than me, and when we got to the country club, he met me at the entrance. and said:
"Don't worry about the tears at work. As far as I 'm concerned, a man that doesn't have any emotions is not worth a shit"!
I never gave my teary 'goodbye' another thought.
Bruce
It's a stupid thing that has been out for countless generations. Like how people think guys wearing pink is gay or something even though throughout men was the first ones to wear pink but a couple of generations later they changed because a woman wore it better than a man. Crying is allowing ourselves to experience our natural response has immense value, as well. Crying releases tension lowers blood pressure, and stimulates the production of endorphins which is a natural reliever that makes someone feel better. Crying is a healthy way to deal with emotions, it allows for a release of tension, sadness, even intense anger. This is far, far healthier than bottling things up inside to fester. What's more, showing you have emotions allows for a deeper connection to other human beings. This stereotype that crying and emotions are weakness, and that men shouldn't be that way is the reason that suicides are higher among men. There is no difference in the emotional capacity of the sexes, society just tells men to 'suck it up, 'boys don't cry, 'man up’ so they suppress emotions and seek no comfort or help from other people. It is damaging, it is fucked up, and it has to stop.
Thank you for saying that. It's just also something I was part of. I was told that I shouldn’t cry or even show emotions as a kid or I would have been disowned and other stuff. It's just I understand these things, learned from other people, etc. It's just an issue that makes no sense whatsoever and people dare to treat people like trash because of something like this. It's so stupid and it just needs to stop.
The general notion as to why it is seen as weak for men is because it doesn't solve problems. We are supposed to be stoic and logical when it comes to facing life and obstacles that get in our way.
Sure, we are human and all have breaking points, but there better be a legitimate reason why a man cries. My exceptions would be death of family member/close friend/SO/pet and severe physical pain. It feels good to let it out, but it should be done in private to allow release and a second to regroup.
People feel uncomfortable when others cry because it can be seen as pathetic or overdramatic and something not worth crying about. The exceptions can be for reasons I listed above. People respect resiliency and calm individuals who can overcome adversity instead of crying or bitching about minor inconveniences.
It is also seen as a feminine behavior across the board. So when a man breaks down, both men and women have a track record of saying things like, "what are you crying about?", "did you die?", "quit being a pussy!", "man up!", "quit being a little bitch!", etc. It has set a standard that men are really only allowed to have two passes on an emotional level with being stoic or angry.
A man who cries is deemed as weak, not respectable or to be taken seriously by others. You get punished via disrespect and isolation.
There's this odd behavior some girls have where they facilitate an environment for a guy to slowly weaken himself overtime, making himself a less appealing option.
To the point he is no longer attracted to him and ends up wanting another man who didn't let her corrupt his masculinity. That aside
No man is judged simply for crying. He's judged
based on what he is crying about. If somebody dies in your family and you cry no one will perceive you as weak as a guy.
If someone teases you at work and you cry, then you're seeing is sensitive and weak by everyone around you guy and girl. Like you're a little animal that needs to be protected because you can't handle life.
I opened with my first statements on the subject, because the message is more important than just simply saying it's okay for a guy to cry.
Yes. It's okay for a guy to open up yes. But in most cases crying in a man is seen as weakness by all women around him aswell as men and he should avoid it for his own sake.
Because even if they don't give him s*** for it. Their view of him as a man will be shaped by him crying in front of them
They have been successfully infected by toxic masculinity beyond repair. Those, who preach so obviously don't want to change, so I recommend respecting that and let them be and let them practice their toxic masculinity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity





Now I'll be waiting for someone to call me a member of feminism or a woman using a blue account.
From a man's standpoint, crying comes off as being broken by the weight you carry. So we picture a military general crying because things got stressful, so it looks like a detriment to his ability to carry out his duties.
I've been pleasantly surprised by women in my life who have talked about men crying, though. Like, they've generally said that it carries all this extra weight because it's more rare, or it's rare to see his vulnerable side. And honestly I find that heartwarming.
But also keep in mind men cry less in general. I've been enormously sad and wanted to cry, but couldn't. It's like the wiring is harder to trigger. Supposedly men actually cry more easily for positive feelings than negative ones. Maybe it has to do with hunting or something. Either way, all else being equal, men will still cry less. We just need to be a little more empathetic when they do.
Because they argue that crying is letting others dictate how you feel, and see that as a weakness.
However... it makes more sense that hiding or supressing instinctual emotional reactions to things that upset you, is a sign of weakness, because you are only hiding it because you are afraid about what people might think of you, thus you are letting those around you be in charge of your actions, and to me thats weak.
Basically, people who say crying makes you weak, are ignoring that being upset about something is self governed, no one's forcing you to feel upset, thats your own thing.
So not ever crying about anything, either means the person is a sociopath, and is therefor weak at surviving in social situations, or is a follower, and is therefor weak at self expression and leadership.
My father always said that decisions have to made with your head, and that you can't base your choices off of emotional feelings.
That's how it is. Men are just expected to be logical, rational, get shit done, earn money robots.
Meanwhile women are encouraged to explore their emotions and people are much more patient and caring towards a woman going through an emotional experience.
If man gets emotional he's told to such it up, stop being a little bitch, pick yourself up right away, and get back on the grind.
Men are a sign of strength. When the enemies at the gate… the sharks are circling… the family is suffering… men HAVE to be there. Women haven’t for all this time had to man the wall, fight the predator, and be the pillar.
There’s a reason a woman’s first instinct is to shield her child with her body while the man’s is to grab a weapon. It’s easy to forget this with today’s easy world.
I know what your thinking… “I have to struggle and suffer all the time. Life’s not easy.” Perspective. It used to be that voicing your opinion got you killed now you get defended for having the dumbest viewpoints. Women didn’t have tampons they just bled on themselves. Child birth had a mortality rate of like 30% for the mothers and 50% for the children. You woke at dawn plowed the fireld and worked (children included) until dusk went inside and slept to start over tomorrow. The idea of fun is something new to the last century.
Why have men had to be strong?
It´s sounds dumb in such situations people react differently. If a guy is weak it requires the woman to be strong, if she´s not ready to be that way either things go badly.
The problem is that by terms of society guys are meant to be the strong ones no matter what.
The simple answer for your question because some people can´t handle such a situation.
Some women say they want their guys to be emotional near if it happens they realize it´s too much for them. The burden that keeps with it is too heavy.
Because guys being crying are in an emotional distress such situations are rarely to many people so instead of figuring out how to handle such a situation they call guys that cry weak/pussy/crybaby...
Well to be honest its mostly the friends that think he's a pussy for crying i dont mind when guys are emotional why hide how u really feel let it out am there for them when they cry mostly in a relashionship i like a man to show his emotions he's more of a man for showing them instead of hiding them just because men or friends say u pussy ure weak i like when the show it it shows you they love you in a relashionship to be honest the ones that hide are the pussys and have no emotions at all
Thank you its so true if you love a women show her be the man you are suppose to be loving caring not hide if you can't show ure feelings because of stupid friend uwl be more the pussy for letting the women u love donw the most
Well, in my opinion it is okay for men to cry but that should be an exception and not a regular thing.
Indeed if a man is emotional like a woman or keeps crying often then he will come off as weak and no woman will ever find such a man appealing. No woman will ever like such a man even as an acquaintance.
A woman tends to lose respect for a man if he is mentally weak, gets emotional easily and can moved to tears.
I am very sure of what I am saying.
Hence if a man is crying in an exceptional situation then it is okay but if it is a regular thing then it is highly unattractive to others, especially to a woman and will be seen as weak.
Just so you'll know, men were not taught that crying is "weak" per se.
We were taught to *know when it is appropriate to cry.* Because men generally aspire to become leaders, providers, and to be self sacrificing. We believe maintaining a strong, confident demeanor in the face of disaster or even in the face of certain death will ensure those around us will feel some semblance of hope in our presence. That everything will be all right. We are taught to always try to look for hope when things seem hopeless, because if we don't, we'll succumb to our emotions and your emotions CAN cloud your reasoning.
Yes, it's OK for men to cry. Maybe there are some men out there that interpret "strength" to mean they should avoid crying *at all cost,* and perhaps that's why they respond with violence. THAT's weakness.
I still cry when I watch movies like The Lord of the Rings. I cry when I see something beautiful. Lol.
I tend to think it's contextual and gender-neutral. If someone gets upset to the point of bawling their eyes out in front of everyone over something very small or throwing an epic tantrum, then I do think their thinking patterns might be counter-productive regardless of their gender. The tears or anger are just symptoms though as I see it; the root problem is being inclined to dwell on very negative and counter-productive thoughts.
On the flip side, if something truly traumatic happens, or if it's a very benign sort of crying like happy tears which aren't necessarily accompanied by very counter-productive thinking patterns, then I think it's very understandable and forgivable regardless of gender.
I don't believe in shaming anyone though. Yet if someone comes to me (man or woman) and says they have the worst boss in the world, the worst job in the world, their life is the worst, etc, covered in tears, then I think it's worth trying to help them develop stronger and more productive and more realistic thinking patterns with whatever tone seems appropriate to encourage them to start thinking in a healthier way.
I tend to think with these sorts of subjects that popular ideas of masculinity have taken on a far too superficial form. For example, consider the way "Stoic" is used in the vernacular these days to describe a man; the vernacular definition is like a man who is unfeeling or represses his emotions deep inside. That is so far removed from the original idea of the Greek and Roman Stoic philosophers! The actual Stoic sage was someone who radiated a sense of inner joy and cultivated a sense of inner peace, similar to a Zen Buddhist monk.
A true Stoic type in this sense will find fewer reasons to cry and complain in life not because they repress their tears or anger but because they find more ways to stay positive and to find the silver linings in the clouds. They are people who find their way towards calm and cheerfulness even in the face of great stress and adversity. Yet I think this grave vernacular misunderstanding of a Stoic is often used to superficially pressure men into repressing their negative thoughts and emotions rather than cultivating them towards positive thoughts and positive emotions.
Because of societal expectations. If they saw a guy crying in front of them, they would start picking on him simply due to the fact that society views it as a weakness. I remember people were laughing and saying things like "ugly ass" or "weak mf" to will smith when he was crying over his ex wife cheating on him. I even heard that some would go overboard and send death threats to him (fucking death over a poor dude crying 😂). Whether that's true I dont even know. I personally just think crying is a normal human emotion. If i see one of my guy friends crying I would try and cheer him up.
This is something that is in our DNA to push down as deep as it will go. Or at least it was that way. Not sure anymore. We are not suppose to have visable feelings. Physical pain is weakness leaving the body. You rub some dirt on it and walk it off. If you have that mindset, feelings are not suppose to be anywhere near the surface. It's confusing, to me at least, when I get emotional about anything. I don't know exactly what to do. My move is keep my head down. I quickly find an exit, if needed, and find anywhere to be alone. I try to get it out of me as quick as possible and push that shit down deep in hopes to never experience that again.
Well I mean it's hard not to... It's like saying. "If a girl likes action man and playing in mud... She's more boyish than most girls... Well yeah , that's true... She is more boyish.. n the same here... If s guy cries a lot and very emotional... He's more girly than most boys. That's jus true... I'm not saying men aren't allowed to.. if you want to cry go ahead... It's jus that.. typically... Men aren't very emotional and crying isn't something we ever feel the need to do... Unless the male in question is more emotional and girlie... In which case it's jus true that he's more girlie... I've never felt the need to cry since I was like 6
It's not a stereotype that men are less emotional generally, it's jus a fact that we are.. we are you trying to deny our nature?
Is it a stereotype that girls like pink and Barbie?
It depends on what they are crying about. Men are supposed to be the protector/provider. A crying man will be seen as incapable of doing those things, and instead needing to be protected/provided for themselves. A LOT of women find it unattractive if their man cry. Now if there is a death in the family or traumatic experience, thats ok. It just depends on why they are crying. But it should be a lot.
No you're not alone in thinking it's dumb. I totally agree with you guys have feelings too! We teach boys to be strong and tell them to "man up". It's as if society is saying "boys you have to be strong for girls " If a girl hits a boy he's expected to just take it and people think it's a joke. Sorry if I rambled on I just think when it comes to boys and girls boys don't get a fair chance.
Thanks for your question. I agree with you as a Male I cry easily and often worry about what people think. Like when my late Mom went in an ambulance I was crying and the paramedic said, sir don't cry, it's like how can't I cry some people have the nerve
@Cherry234 Yeah, mom spent total of about 14 days
in 2 hospital stays and 1 week in the local nursing home
before she passed away she went too soon.
@Cherry234 Thanks , for your kindness
Pretty sure its because they have no soul. I have been know to shed a tear or two usually at the cinema when watching kids films with my own kids.
These kinds of movies know exactly what they are doing of course. Usually its a storyline such as in "Onward" when the sons lost their father years ago. They get a chance to bring him alive for 24 hours and things don't go quite as expected but then the movie turns the story around and we find out that one son has been like a father to the other. Well, what was I supposed to do? Mostly my kids just start pointing at me saying "Mum, he's crying again"...
Because those men are invariably fuckwits that have not really experienced much.
A guy coming back from a tour in Helmand, shedding tears at his daughters wedding.
other guys at various funerals or memorials raising glasses to absent friends.
Anyone saying guys don’t or it’s gay, hopefully they remember saying that if they are ever looking down at a loved one on life support.
Because that is how they were raised. Both men and women enforce it. It's not just men telling other men. Ladies expect us to be the same. Most anyway.
I broke down once with a woman I was dating... will never happen again. The quickest way to end your relationship...
Socialization.
Men are strong and protectors of the weak (women & children).
Women are soft, sensitive and supposed to be nurturing, caring.
- This is implemented deeply into our culture, our mindset and how we act and without realizing it: parents pass it on to their kids.
The past generations have made changes for us - now it's us that need to make changes for the next generation BUT we've to also remember that the next generation is going to have to make changes too.
I agree with you but that doesn't mean that if a man cries it means that he's weak!
Absolutely not. We've to stop teaching boys that being sensitive is inherently for women or a sign of weakness but in fact is often a sign of strength.
When everyone guy is a queer flamboyant fagg like James Chile's jus don't complain "where have all the masculine men gone". You girls brought it upon yourself
Because crying is said to be feminine and the greatest insult to a guy is being called a girl. Go figure. And the most people you're talking about, a lot women are accepting and feel it's only natural if guys cry... It's men mates who say "he cried like a little girl" like it's the funniest joke ever.
Testosterone and the size of our tear ducts makes it more difficult for us to cry. We are different to women so men that act in a similar way will be called out, just as they should be. I was in a situation where everyone was crying but someone had to hold everyone together. All of the women were crying... if the men were also crying what good would that have done? So yes, if I see a man crying in certain situations I am going to assume he is weak. We are less emotional by nature, and for a reason, just as women are more emotional for a reason.
Well said
the rules for men crying are still quite tight in society. like there's somewhat established events where it is absolutely ok to cry for a man and most men do actually cry and not feel bad crying in those situations. this is when your mom dies, or your dog or your own child. however outside of that, crying is a gray area. if you cry in the wrong situation, even your freaking wife can think of you as a bitch. and this is not "him feeling like a bitch" out of blace. this is litterally how men are still judged. you can go on and on about "it's ok to cry", when the reality proofs that it's not.
@Valso probably number one on the list
I've never spoken about my divorce with my friends and they don't talk about thiers with me.
Did you know that men NEVER talk to each other in a restroom? Ever.
Women are %100 clueless about men. Men understand women much better than women understand men simply because women don't even bother to try. I find this oddly comforting.
@Slartybartfast well i personally am perfectly fine with not talking to someone while taking a piss or shit xD i mean there's all that time where you're not currently pissing or shitting that you can talk to people.
i don't know if the thing about men knowing women better than vice versa is true. i have no opinion on tha ttho.
Men crying is both a negative and a positive thing. Depending on the situation and or circumstance he is in at the time of crying. If men shouldn’t cry god would have created them without the capability to do so. However, men should choose their moments of weakness accordingly and be wary of who they are around when doing so.
For example a man crying in front of a woman he barely knows and she will see it as an opportunity to manipulate him to get what she wants at his weakest and most vulnerable.
The only people who would have any reason to think this are women because last time i checked they don't find crying constantly very sexy.
As far as the practice of stoicism goes, it's fine to cry but it's helpful to know that it's not very productive.
Apparently not, judging by the comments from some of the men who answered this. It isn't very productive to cry over everything. This applies to women too, not just men. There are legitimate reasons to cry though like over a breakup, a death of a friend, family member, pet, etc. and even over happy things. Tears of joy are good too.
@Cherry234 I agree but in dire situations where you need to keep moving or you die if not seriously injured, crying is the last thing you want to do. That's what i mean by productive. This kind of discipline is taught in self defense classes, military (or other weapon discipline classes) and for leadership positions in general and is there for a reason.
If you let your emotions control you, you will use your weapon be it your body, firearms and the like or your authority, poorly and and could cost lives.
This is what really bugs me about the concept of toxic masculinity. It's not just a strawman about stoicism but it's the entire farm because it is often used to demonize masculinity in general while putting on a charade to say that it isn't.
@Asad1ONE1 I get it but it definitely happens and there's no textbook sign that it will happen and for a marriage that can come with pretty serious consequences if the wife wants to leave for any reason so I can totally understand if the husband doesn't want to tell his wife what he really thinks.
@Snakeyes7 Thank you for insight. I didn't think of it that way. We can't pretend that people don't have any feelings but people should control their emotions to an extent.
Well I am not sure, I personally don't think men are weak when they cry, I mean I like my man to be able to express his feelings and emotions with me, to always be able to share and be free when I am around cause I won't judge him, I would only think he is stronger and trusts me enough to know that he can always lean on my shoulders when he needs it and I won't be judgmental to it. Because he always will be the shoulder I lean on to when I need it and the chest I cry into when I can't take hold it anymore.
Crying to men is at a higher percentage seen as one being weak n that men do not cry. But I see nothing wrong if men do cry it is okay.
Because crying improves moo.
Crying can one way or another reduce on tension thus stepping up on the feelings of relief.
So men do not be scared incase you do feel like things are out of your hand n power.
Thank you cherry I had to at least put out a more helpful comment on here, sinve even the question was a big one.
So you have been thinking about how possible it is for some people to view crying as weak move on the guys side. People can be weird lol but no evil in crying. Hope you do find better explanatory comments on hear dear.😊
Wow then cool 👍
I guess some people don't understand that it's a normal human function that everyone does, regardless of gender.
They are told by “some” other men, and their brain washed families that this is true. It isn’t true of course.
Because some people think crying is a sign of weakness. The answer is in your question.
If you mean why is a man crying a sign of weakness to some that's a different question. To that I'd say because traditionally and stereotypically a man showing emotion is not appropriate for his gender. Traditionally men are supposed to be strong on the outside and crying would be more of a feminine trait.
No one said such things. The truth of the statement is that people perception of you changes when you decide to be publicly vulnerable. You'll be seen as less stable, less masculine and less able to protect others from emotional or phisical harm causing your perceived value to deflate in general and with women. This is at the core of that issue.
Ok fine fair enough, I'm just saying their are real reasons why people may think that way. No matter how understanding you may like to think you are it ultimately changes how you feel about someone, not always for the better either.
In my past, growing up as a man, the people who told me to be strong and not to cry, maintain frame for the people around you because they need you to be strong. These are people who had my best interest at heart. They knew better than I.
If you want a man to open up to you you need to build his trust it's not as simple as reassuring him. You need to be his ride or die is you want that kinda clearance. Cuz people dip on us for showing our cards or letting our walls down, that's why they went up in the first place.
This is why we are the highest in Heart attacks its unhealthy to hold emotions in at a certain age (I belive 40 or 50 from what i was told) we are at risks of heart attacks if you need to cry then cry your eyes out i know for myself I'll be in the risk of heart attacks if I'm around people I just wait till I get home or somewhere without people to cry by myself
Its also scary knowing that you'll probably get it in a few decades I hope I'm not in that waiting list
Probably because it is indeed true that the (noticeably) weaker types of me more frequently & openly cry. Then people can interpret it how they will while seeking certain behaviors that are more attractive. Understandably so. Life is a game & a brutal one at that.
Ahhhhhh... I don't know if guys acting more like girls is a good thing. I think men and women are best off when they balance each other out. Pretending that there are not differences between genders or exceptions on being a man or women is ridiculous.
Like I said below there's time and place for everything. When life get tough maybe tears help bring some closure or healthy resolutions to your emotional state... but I do not think people look to cry babies to resolve problems.
It might be a stereotype... but people do not look to men to cry about thier problems. So as a man you need buck up and act like one. Say is true for women as well.
Because men are taught by society that being string neans showing no emotion. In reality it takes a strong man to show emotions and experience the pain.
Women are repulsed by it. If you look at some of the comments on this forum and others from women about any man crying, the first thing you see is them talking about how uncomfortable it makes them feel and how negatively they view the guy. Women will literally run in the opposite direction from a guy who cries, despite what they "say" to be politically correct.
The women who run away from men for crying over something emotional or traumatic like a death or even something less devastating like a sad movie aren't worth it in my opinion. Even crying tears of joy isn't a bad thing. People have emotions. We're not robots. Only a narrow-minded person thinks like that.
That's the way it should be, but a whole lot of women say men should "man up" and "act like a man" and I've even read "if i wanted a pussy, I'd touch mine" in describing guys who have shown emotions. So many women will give men hell for merely complaining about something, never mind actually crying.
Women are not the ones saying that. Other men are. Just look at the comments here.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 The 10 comments from women proves that absolutely zero women think this way?
You'll also see a handful of men here saying it's because of the way women react.
@sirderpsalot123 not absolutely zero. Of course not. Not what I meant. If you cry for a fair reason, women won't look at you as weak. Don't cry over a splinter. Cry over losing someone important. No one will see you as weak.
There are plenty of women who will see men as weak. Struggling with survivors guilt and night terrors for several years after surviving a house fire, I received absolutely zero sympathy from most of my family, including female relatives. My aunt told me that I was selfish for being depressed because I was the man of the house. I was 17 when she said this me. I guess my problem isn't really with being seen as weak, it's more of the overall lack of sympathy we have for men. Men are just expected to be able to handle everything on their own. Just saying, your experience isn't everyone else's experience.
I do agree that men and women shouldn't cry over small things, at least not in public. To a point, everyone should be able to control their emotions.
I'm not putting all of the blame on women. Men started this stereotype but there are women who reinforce it. This is one thing you can't just blame men for.
@sirderpsalot123 I agreed that those women exist. Both men and women shame men for crying. And this now will depend on what our experiences are. I have seen it men doing it far more than women.
If you agree I'm confused about why you're trying to convince this man (opinion owner) that he's wrong. Sounds like you're back pedaling.
@sirderpsalot123 because the women who are repulsed by it are a tiny minority.
Right. Forgot people don't actually believe that we have just as many shitty women as we have men.
We aren't supposed to talk about that lol. Men bad, women good.
@sirderpsalot123 oh we do have a lot of shitty people in this world. But I don't take them as standard.
Jesus Christ wept. Hernando Cortez the Spanish conquistador wept. Both were portrayed as manly men. People who think that men shouldn't cry at all are stupid.
@Dchrls78104 Agreed.
@Dchrls78104 Jesus isn’t manly he died like a bitch
I don't think a lot of girls are so comfortable crying or showing emotions in public either lol. It's human insecurity. But yes, generally men might be more insecure with this. Two words: history and nurture.
As a girl I don't know who thinks that but i actually get mad if the man never shows me his emotions i want them to cry if they’re feeling like it other than keeping it inside. I mean i never think a man is too weak for just crying they’re human and they need to let it out sometimes…
Because men are expected to be tough, and crying is not tough.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MenDontCry
that's just how some dudes are raised... and then some of them really believe in it and it greatly depends on how and where you grew up, then it will be more present or not
because yes, these are just stereotypes and not a generalized thing
I am "some" people.
Crying solves not one problem.
So: why - instead of "freely expressing my feelings" - not focussing on finding a solution?
I don't condemn others for being unable to tackle a present problem; but I don't admire them either.
Depends for what reason they are crying. If a woman or man cries over something so trivial and stupid I will think they are weak. If they are crying for something more serious, like they lost somebody they loved then they are not weak.
Cause people are crazy asf they think cause we're men we don't have feelings and emotions and its sad that in the eyes of society if we cry we're considered weak
I guess so just because I'm a man lol
I hope you realise... That even if society was different, and crying men was a norm.. and all men cried and it was accepted.. that I would still think it's weak for myself to do... So this idea that men crying is weak isn't something brought on by society.. it's something natural in a man's head to think.. that he's weak.. so no matter what year it is you would never see men crying much.. cos even in caveman days before society judgement was a thing.. the cavemen themselves even thought it was girlie and weak. Even before they learnt to communicate
It's jusbour nature bro, god made us tough
That's why it good to march to the beat of you own drum I do me and I could care less what anybody thinks that's strength everybody cries and if you say otherwise its a lie my mom died I cried I still cry sometimes when I think about her
Fucking society has taught us that if men cry, they aren't men at all but fucking boys who are weak. The thing is we aren't robots; we have emotions and not only death of a loved one hurts us, we let the waterworks flow when our girlfriends or boyfriends whom we loved has broken us
It’s something society did generations ago that we haven’t fully erased yet.
The process is slow, but one day that lie will die and men will be treated like humans by everyone.
Wym by everyone? Nobody treats men worse than women
@TsAubreyKate
Yes, they do.
It’s becoming more and more common to talk about how men‘s mental heath has been ignored for generations.
Men make up the majority of suicides.
I don't know which country you’re from or how it is there, but in American “real men don’t cry” is how our parents and grandparents were raised and is how they tried to raise us.
Crying makes you weak, it doesn't mean you are weak. Crying just uses up energy and makes your eyes bloodshot and gives you bags underneath along with all the slobbering. But sometimes it just comes on spontaneously. It is claimed that it does some good, but I don't see it. For women and children it can be highly useful though to get what they want. It doesn't work for men to do it so that's why it is useless.
Oh please, if women really didn't look down on men for expressing emotion, men would do it. Men trip over themselves every day of the week on what we can do make ourselves more appealing to women, and literally no one ever as has, "Oh, just cry in front of her!"
Get the fuck out of here. You need only to watch this Joe Rogan excerpt to nuke your opinion from orbit:
If wearing a pink tutu got positive female attention it would be dress code for the military.
Never heard of this. I keep hearing it is a stereotype but never met anyone that says or feels this way. Yes if a man gets upset easily over something insignificant he is called a pussy as an insult.
It depends on the reason they’re crying. If it’s a sad situation like someone dying or someone who’s seriously hurt, it’s fine. If it’s because he’s not getting his way or he’s trying to manipulate someone else’s emotions, then that’s weak.
Yeah or if he cried because a movie sad part lol
Well, I think that's rubbish, guys are human too, I think if a guy doesn't cry their a robot
@onlylonelygal okay how would you feel about a man crying because his football team loses
Nothing wrong with that, men are emotional too, social convention says man up men don't cry, same as women should be thin and blonde
Nobody likes a whiny ass crybaby grown man
@onlylonelygal are you okay with men raping women because they’re human too and emotional and their emotions get the better of them do you keep that same tune when men beat or hit their girlfriend/wives I doubt it
Short simple answer:
1) People just say it to others without thinking because that's what they have been told since young age.
2) Some expect us to deal with the problem and not cry about it because crying means asking for attention (in their opinion)
3) Nice trick to get clout on your account lol
not a sign of weakness sign of being themselves not a fake but someone who cries all the time that's different
May be. Crying is a kind of natural emotion and it is allowed both genders. My personal opinion is do not be judge mental.
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It is ingrained in our society. Boys are taught at an early age that only girls cry. I try to tell myself that it is normal and sometimes healthy to cry about something really profound.
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