Why are men allowed to be half naked on their profile pics, but women are not. ?

[Anonymous]

The constant sight of men and their man boobs is disturbing. Nobody needs to see that.

[Anonymous]

Do women always get quickly aroused when they see a shirtless athletic man? I mean not just like “oh he’s hot” but actually feeling a tingling in the special area? Just at first glance and with nothing else?

If women were as visually triggered as men then there would be lots of lucrative OF careers for male models, strippers, porn actors and even male prostitutes who service only women. Sure you got chippendales but it’s more about the whole song and dance and being entertaining. Not just about being aroused.

Now yes some women get turned on quickly. Many women might get turned on visually at the RIGHT moment. But nowhere near how it works for men vice versa. This is especially true by how young men vs young women act. Men especially young men can and do get aroused by seeing shirtless women. It hits them so fast it’s literally involuntary.

Also for you “free the nipple” activists out there. You can do what you want. But let me ask you this: Would you go bare chested in front of your dad, brother or son? Also are you going to yell “creep!” if a man you don’t happen to like when he reflexively glances at your bare chest? Huh?

Women who push all this nonsense have very little understanding of men. I’m not giving men an excuse to be creeps. But men have built in biological impulses to notice and get aroused by female bodies including breasts. That doesn’t mean they are allowed to say or do something stupid. But it’s going to hit their minds whether you like it or not.

You can’t control what goes through guys minds and pretending a man is going to react the same way a woman will seeing a girl bare chested (if a lesbian woman) is really stupid.

[Opinion Owner]

*even a lesbian woman. I know they don’t get turned on the same way straight guys do when initially seeing a naked woman. It’s not spontaneous for them like it is for straight men.

[RingOfFire]

Nature designed men to become sexually aroused more easily than women because male arousal is necessary for human reproduction. The male must get an erection to impregnate the female. Female arousal, while helpful, is not necessary to the process. So men are designed to be more easily aroused to ensure survival of the species. And seeing a woman's body shape, skin and private parts is the most powerful form of that sexual arousal for a man. That fact is necessary to understand in order to answer a lot of questions of this type. And it is clearly why there is a different standard of exposure and dress.

[RingOfFire]

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Apologies... I posted the above in the wrong place...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Opinion Owner]

@RingOfFire no worries. You just echoed my entire point.

Women arguing all this “free the nipple” foolishness are really just mentally lazy and naive. They assume men view the world the same way they do. We don’t. Never have and never will. And it’s not like we have a choice in our thought processes either. We are biologically hardwired to think differently. Especially when it comes to what arouses us vs. What doesn’t.

[Apple1996]

Thats seriously fucking sick if you think it's okay for a dad, brother or son to get turned on by their female family members boobs. I whip out my boobs all the time for breastfeeding in front of family and they wouldn't even think about me in a sexual way. Even non family members that are men should be able to control themselves around boobs/naked women. y'all aren't hard wired that way. Your way of viewing women has been sexualized from society and you need to fix yourself. Stop using biology as a cop out and work on the way you view women. Learn when it is and isn't appropriate to view women as sexual.

[Apple1996]

Women do get turned on visually the same way as men. We just know when it is and isn't appropriate to do so

[Opinion Owner]

@Apple1996 I’m definitely NOT talking about breastfeeding. Hell no. Also yes it’s gross for biologically related men to get turned on but that’s not what I was arguing. I’m talking about a 19 year old woman walking around her neighborhood on a hot day shirtless.

That’s going to make any of her male relatives extremely uncomfortable. Not turned on but squeamish. And if she has any common sense she would be extremely uncomfortable too.

[Apple1996]

A woman walking around shirtless could easily be breastfeeding as well. Doesn't change the situation. Why would that make anyone uncomfortable? Women have more of a reason for them to be out then men do

[RingOfFire]

"Women do get turned on visually the same way as men. We just know when it is and isn't appropriate to do so"

Here's the thing Apple1996 with all due respect.

You are equating an involuntary natural reaction with a voluntary conscious choice. Male sexual arousal is involuntary. It's no different than say getting shivering, goosebumps or erect nipples when you are cold... or sweating when you are hot.

Your comment suggests that men can make a conscious decision based on some arbitrary notion of "right and wrong" or "acceptable and not acceptable." And I wouldn't doubt that you are right that WOMEN can control it like that and that's probably why you assume men can too.

But that is an erroneous assumption. There is a vast difference between male and female sexual arousal that is the result of differences in natural biological design, not necessarily the morally and societally acceptable practice du jour.

[Opinion Owner]

@RingOfFire spot on.

Also @apple1996 breastfeeding a baby is completely different story. Im actually glad you are doing that too because there studies that breastfeed babies have better brain development vs. babies who only got fed formula. I know there was brief time in history (in the 50s) where it was considered “exposure” and inappropriate for women to breastfeed their own children. That was stupid. Very stupid. Women having been breastfeeding their children for all of human history.

@ringoffire and I are talking about women who are not mothers who have this “free the nipple” attitude. Yes I know having to wear a bra and not being able to expose your bare chest on hot day can be inconvenient. But for reasons discussed above this does visually impact men differently vs other women.

by the way I have an athletic chest and still have visible abs. But even being a man I don’t feel comfortable going shirtless in front of my family unless I am jumping in a pool or something. It’s something I think twice about.

[Apple1996]

@RingOfFire men and women get turned on in the same ways. If we can control it you guys can control it to.

[Apple1996]

You shouldn't feel uncomfortable to be shirtless around your family tho. Men have nice chest I think they should be showed off more

[RingOfFire]

@Apple1996

Again you are conflating two different things. There is a difference between arousal and behavior based on that arousal. Civilized society demands that even though men are involuntarily aroused, there are certain behaviors they are not permitted to take to act on it.

They cannot control their arousal, but they are required to control their behavior. Some are better at that than others.

You yourself said that women can control whether or not they are aroused based on the circumstances. That is what you have been arguing here in this thread. I think that is probably true. But men, on the other hand, cannot, or at least far less capable of it since their arousal is involuntary.

So I must disagree with our assertion that "men and women get turned on in the same ways." Yes, there are some similarities, but there are also some big differences.

Whenever I get into a discussion like this I like to illustrate the point by giving an example of what it would be like if both men and women are equal when it comes to sexual arousal. And that example would be that there would be people fucking on every street corner. Men are far more easily aroused than women and far more involuntarily otherwise that would be what you would observe.

[Apple1996]

You shouldn't feel uncomfortable to be shirtless around your family. Men have nice chest they should show them off

[Apple1996]

My bad put the same thing twice. GaG wasn't posting then posted both🙄

[Apple1996]

@RingOfFire are you serious? Do we not live in the same world or something? Obviously women get turned on just as easily as men do. That is how we've kept mating over thousands of years.

And personal I've never met a man that is aroused more easily than I am. Women have more nerves, stronger orgasms and hormones driving us to have sex compared to men

[RingOfFire]

Growwwwllll... you're turning me on... 😛

[Screenwriter]

Well, I don't know about the rest of the female population, but there are hunky men running past my house and who I work with who are killer hot, young things and are clueless about their hotness, in my opinion. I react to them the same way I did when I was 18. "Whew!" And it's not just a man being young. There are pretty, sexy males of all ages roaming around.

Summer is my fave time of year because I get to see all the hot legs and butts and occasionally bare chests... It's a nice picnic.

My point is, women just can't GUSH about seeing all this fauna or we'll be taken the wrong way. So we keep quiet about it and talk amongst ourselves.

I think women are JUST as visually stimulated as men, but we keep that close to our "breasts" ha ha.

Men can't get pregnant. We keep it on the DL about how men affect us. If men DIDn't affect us so, nobody would be having sex.

[Opinion Owner]

@Screenwriter oh I’m well aware of women gush. I know fantasize. I know they talk about it among friends.

But do find yourself getting aroused within seconds of seeing an attractive man who showing his muscles and skin? You know what I’m talking about.

[modeunae]

@RingOfFire Well said. Well said, mate.

[Opinion Owner]

@screenwriter @apple1996

Let’s play a devils advocate position here. Let’s pretend all the guys on this thread argued the opposite position with the same vigor. Pretend we are all like “oh hell yeah it’s fine with women are shirtless. Hell there is cute next door neighbor who I wish would walk around shirtless. Free the nipple ladies!”

Would you believe guys saying that are really being genuine for is of best interest of women? Would you really believe they had pure motives? Something tells me you wouldn’t deep down believe that at all.

[Hell_boy]

You must have already got these replies that, "You can also do that, nobody stopped you." But let's think about other perspectives why this happens--


First of all, there are no such a one sided rules in any democratic country that allows men to show their men's boobs but prohibit women to show their. Then who stops them doing that? Let's think about it..


There can be two reasons certainly we can think so, that
1) Society
2) Others Men's reaction.


Biologically, males attract towards the curves of females, even if they are covered. If they are open, that can hugely turn on a man ( not towards everyone) and he will take some steps to get closer with her, which might occur some troubles in some cases.
Not every man there will do that. Some people are open minded and will take it normal but some people, whether it's man or woman, have old people's mentality. And because of these kind of people, society wants female to cover their private parts in public places.


A girl always taught from her childhood to cover her private parts while there were no such restrictions for boys.
That's why men can easily shw their boobs in public places while women find it hard to show their boobs in public places.

[modeunae]

It's not an "old people's mindset", it's a: "women-should-have-their-sexually-recognised-organs-out" mindset because if they do, they lower their value. They look cheap and aren't worth the while, unless the while is the night, as I like to say.

Tits aren't a man's chest. Those 2 things are very different.

[Anonymous]

In some schools in Japan there are rules against a girl having her hair up; because the nape of her neck is too sexually arousing and distracting to boys.

There's a lot of people commenting, "oh men are just naturally aroused by breasts" but that's hardly true. There's many country's where women walk around shirtless most the time and it's very normal. It's completely social.

I'm uncomfortable with men walking around shirtless, because I was raised in an environment where that didn't happen. Men are more arousing in suits. While with women I find them more sexually arousing with a bikini or sexy deess on than I do seeing her naked. (I feel uncomfortable seeing her naked as well) the targeted sexuality towards me that I saw In media wasn't nudity until I was almost an adult and first saw porn. It's not inate. It's learnt behavior.

I think everyone should cover up or everyone shouldn't. Just whatever is normal culturally should be the rule for everyone when it comes to modesty.

[cyclingkmi]

You find fully clothed men more arousing than semi naked? Why

[Opinion Owner]

@cyclingkmi because a naked body isn't as attractive to me as a well dressed person lol.

[cyclingkmi]

Who's more sexually attractive... a woman's body or a man's body z for you?

[Asad1ONE1]

Someone isn't straight

[modeunae]

Desiring breasts is not a learned behaviour and whatever countries those are and especially *were*, men are still aroused by breasts. That doesn't change.

[Opinion Owner]

@modeunae yeah and a woman can be aroused by a man's arm lol get a life

[cyclingkmi]

@Opinion owner? What? Woman can be turned on by a man's arms? Seriously serious?

[Opinion Owner]

@cyclingkmi yes lol if a man has strong arms? Seems kinda obvious to me as a thinking person. Anything can be sexualkzed

[cyclingkmi]

But women don't sexualize men. If anything they are also sexually attracted by other women

[StarWarGirl]

In the process of equality among genders and faminism etc we forget few basic difference how we are different biologically. For a guy it's easier to get raised sexually than a female. And guys are visually controlled but female emotionally. That's why a semi naked male body would be less intriguing less sexually tempting for a female than the semi naked female body for a male. But yeh a semi naked male body can be having same effect on a Gay (i guess so I'm not sure) but they are less in number so by majority it becomes like this as it is now what's acceptable and what's not.

[molonski2]

Great summary , I cannot improve on that.

[coachTanthony]

Men rule the world is the simple answer.

[Screenwriter]

Sad, but unfortunately, still true.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

More like women let men rule the world and it's not even an easy thing to do

[modeunae]

@Screenwriter What's sad about men ruling the world?

[Screenwriter]

@modeunae Cuts out the valuable input of half the people on the planet.

[modeunae]

@Screenwriter Women are led by emotions. Sure, one or two may have something valuable to say, but women just often aren't realistic in their thinking. It sounds bad, but it's true. Even simple things like agreements with women take left turns from the topic of the argument. What more when it comes to dealing with countries?

Women just aren't built for that. It's simple and it's good that the world worked this way, but it work'ed' this way. It isn't that way anymore. Women "run" the world.

[Screenwriter]

@modeunae Women in the halls of power don't operate this way. This is likely why there are fewer of them, in general. But being rational and reasonable is always the way to work through arguments. It's called diplomacy. it works just as well in personal relationships.

I wouldn't generalize. Maybe the women YOU know are like this. It's your experience. But working out logical ways to deal with problems, filtering them through consultants, such as therapists or friends you trust, usually leads to better outcomes.

Emotions blind you to best practices and fair outcomes. It's why we have lawyers, judges and courts. But humans are subjective. And sometimes they're myopic. I do my best to not operate that way.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You may have no idea how much men are actually treated like shit in the work place like women. The only difference is that men just tend to persevere and not even give up as easily like women do bringing up the gender victim card even if it may have nothing to do with it. What you all only see is men in power but you don't wanna see how many men fail, are getting fired, going homeless and being at a low rank which is more common for males. If you complain about how much "empowered" men are, then why did women even let men do it in the first place? They could have also just man up and show men whos boss from the start. It's just that women before are just different and more appreciative than women today. Appreciating men's work because leading is not an even an easy thing to do. You may think leaders just have it so easy and they haven't been through a lot but you are so wrong for thinking that way.

[modeunae]

@Aiko_E_Lara You are correct. There's definitely some victim card at play and that here.

[modeunae]

@Screenwriter YOU might do your best to operate this way but not all women are like women. Being reasonable and rational in arguments is the way to go but women don't get this. You should actually be telling WOMEN this, not me, because I know. Women in general behave and act emotionally all throughout their days and think it should be put up with in every circumstance. THAT'S crazy. The only people on this planet who can be emotional and get away with it are women, children and animals. Anything else, with that 'anything else' being 'men' is not allowed. You wouldn't generalise but rules and conclusions can't be made on anomalies, they're made on the general public or consensus of things based on how they generally are. Women, too, don't generally have friends that behave properly throughout their days, what more giving relationship advice. Most women are hopping from cock to cock, and/or exist in an aura of feminism such that if you were to have an issue with your boyfriend/husband/man, the advice they'd give you is more than terrible. Emotions make people myopic which is why women can't [shouldn't] be in power because they operate through their emotions. It's your biology, not something you can argue with, therefore, it disqualifies women as good leaders in general. You may say: "Then just don't operate through your emotions." Women who generally do this aren't happy, because this draws them away from their femininity. This is why wealthy, important women of important companies aren't happy and look 99 when they're 42. Because they've switched their mindset from a feminine one to a masculine one, which is the kind of mindset that helps you elevate in the economic world. They've tapped into something they weren't built for. You can't be led by your emotions and expect to increase in the world of business regardless of what you do.

[Screenwriter]

@Aiko_E_Lara I understand what you're talking about. Only the top dog men are AT the top. The majority of male workers are in modest positions, and sadly, some in absolute power abuse that power absolutely and denigrate lower-ranked males.

It is the old biological imperative of having the most toys: be they women, cars, power, access et al. The top male also puts down the lower males to keep them in check of the lower-ranked males will attempt to take away their power. This is the sneaky fucker rule.

This is an actual biological term. The top ranked male in a herd of say, mountain sheep has his harem, but he can only fuck one ewe at a time. While he's occupied fucking his one ewe of the moment, the lower ranked male, or, the sneaky fucker, will come out while he's occupied and fuck another available ewe. This means the sneaky fucker gets a chance to spread his genes, and it really doesn't affect the top sheep who can't get around to all those ewes in heat anyway. He has enough of his genes spread in the long run.

But what's terrible is the stress under which the sneaky fucker has to live. He's in fear for his life if the top sheep ever catches him. He's smaller, not as genetically gifted or fit and would lose in a tete a tete battle. Better to sneak and get the job done.

In the workplace, low ranked males may also resort to sneaky fucker activity, though it won't be involved in LITERAL fucking. They may seek to fuck the workplace manager to relieve stress or to gain a leg up. This could lead to them getting fired. And constant stress shortens a man's life.

It might be lonely at the top, but high power men live longer than low ranking ones. Their jobs might not be easy, but, it's good to be king, as they say.

The point is a man has to find his kingdom outside of the workplace. In a hobby, in being a Scout Master, in his garden, building things, taking care of his home and children. Giving to his community or church.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You know that kind of mindset can also be applied to women. Which is basically feminism wanting to bring down men for thinking they are so privileged. It's only natural for people to do whatever it takes to climb on top for survival and to have a leader to control society so what do you think would happen if there are actually no leaders? Do you think humanity would actually survive? We'd be long gone getting swallowed by nature or getting eaten by other bigger predators if none of us lead. All you are thinking about is leading is only about controlling but you're ignoring the responsibilities leaders have which is what shaped the world.

[modeunae]

@Screenwriter Now, you're talking sense. Not the shit you're saying before about my experience with women.

As for sneaker fucker behaviour, that's evil. It may not effect the big sheep too much but such behaviour will get you fucked in human life. If I were the big sheep and I found out, that nigga's done.

[Screenwriter]

@modeunae Actually the sneaky fucker behavior puts more diversity into the gene pool. Diversity protects from disease and strengthens the gene pool. And of course if the big sheep ever found out, the littler, younger guy is a goner, but he never does! Big sheep's too occupied.

And your personal experience is anecdotal. It is not a statistical research study. This is not to say that your experience doesn't matter. It's only to say that it is limited and doesn't represent the general experience of a broad swath of men, which a statistical study aims to mimic. And I did say "aims."

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Another thing you don't realize is that if women being is a sneaky fucker, they are most likely going to succeed as they are more likely to get away with it and experiments shows how much society is so lenient to women than to men. And even shorter sentence for the same crime a man do.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Because it's disrespectful to everyone involved. The woman devalues her body which at this point, society has devalued it so much I can understand why it doesn't seem to make a difference.

People aren't supposed to be running around fucking eachother this much... It's too out in the open and what happened to having a relationship?

You want to walk around with your tits out, be my guest. I'm not gonna tell you anything or treat you any differently, but I think you're making yourself seem emotionally numb to the point you couldn't possibly love anything other than yourself. Sometimes not even.

After dating a few of that type, that's just a pattern I've picked up on over time.

[RingOfFire]

Nature designed men to become sexually aroused more easily than women because male arousal is necessary for human reproduction. The male must get an erection to impregnate the female. Female arousal, while helpful, is not necessary to the process. So men are designed to be more easily aroused to ensure survival of the species. And seeing a woman's body shape, skin and private parts is the most powerful form of that sexual arousal for a man. That fact is necessary to understand in order to answer a lot of questions of this type. And it is clearly why there is a different standard of exposure and dress.

[BadApple69]

I agree! Man boobs are…. Are… well heck, not even real boobs. They are more like place holders for where real boobs should have been!
Joking aside… yes it’s sexist! Men can do while woman can not. Not fair but it’s a hold over from time past. The big issue is in many countries they are still living in that “time past” stage. In many muslim countries women have completely cover themselves. So while we might be more progressive in this country and don’t have an issue with the female form many countries do. Again not fair but there we are.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Ok then why do you even annoyed if anyone compliments your boobs? I mean i'm talking about women in general feeling "harassed" when that ever happens. And you all have the power to point out and shame all those creepos who do and even potentially have their lives ruined in the name of justice. Men don't have the power to do that to women being "creeps" to men. So, if you wanna show your boobs in public and anyone makes "sexual" comment about it, suck it up and be a man. Being a man is what you want isn't it?

[Darkrainbow]

Would you be okay with a gay man openly expressing his desire for your body?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I never said it's ok. Nobody is ok with having a creep doing those. If a gay man is openly expressing his sexual desires to me, it wouldn't be ok. However there's nothing else i can do but i could try and beat him up. Unless she is a woman, there's nothing i could do about it because no society would care if anyone does that to a man. You women have society to care for you if ever you call some creeps for expressing their sexual desires to you. Men don't have that luxury. But if you really want to be like men, then take that privilege female away from you.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You can say you are not ok with it but let's not have society care about you if you want to go topless casually like men do

[Darkrainbow]

Many eastern societys wouldn't work that way.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Men in the eastern society are more oppressed than men in the western society as well. Meaning everyone is just more oppressed in the east than in the west. But this topic is not only talking about the eastern society.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And even if we are talking about eastern society, it is still biologically hardwired in everyone to protect women and that applies in the east too. Maybe what you are looking at is that eastern women don't have the same privileges western women just by comparison, but if you think about it, any oppressions they face are much more addressed than oppressions men face anywhere else in the world. Which is why men's suicide rate is 4x higher than women's globally.

[Darkrainbow]

In which Eastern countries are you living? Stating that men are more oppressed there is a literally insane statement. In most Eastern countries, women don't even get to choose whom to marry. Search about women who are forced to marry their rapists

[Darkrainbow]

The suicide rate among men isn't higher than that among women. In fact, the rate of successful suicides among men is higher because they tend to choose more brutal methods.

[GodsPinkyToe]

@Darkrainbow yep. Happens to me often. I just say thank you and move on.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It doesn't matter where i live because if you're talking about certain countries, that's cherry picking. I'd rather speak for the global average than certain groups. You say men's suicide rate is not higher but you say more men succeed in doing it is contradictory because that would just basically mean men's suicide rate is higher. Unless you are just trying to say more women attempt in doing it than men? Then guess what, in every successful suicide there had always been attempts in doing it and even having thoughts with it is considered an attempt. The difference would be just women get addressed a lot if they talk about it and you cannot guarantee all attempts are genuine because it can easily be faked objectively. However you can guarantee all successful suicide are genuine.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I can also talk about in a certain culture men are forced to keep their rapist's children, getting sued for child support after a sperm thief stole his spermery, being forced to protect women at all cost, lising 1/3 of his income after divorce, getting convicted after getting raped by women qnd so on. Basicly the western culture.

[Darkrainbow]

Source: Australian Family Physician, v.28, no.8, (August 1999), p.791-795
SIEC No: 19990787
This article examines why the male suicide rate has always been higher than that for women despite women making more suicide attempts. Possible reasons are examined in the light of published evidence. Men are more likely to kill themselves because they use more lethal means, because of their higher levels of drug & alcohol use, & because they are less likely to present for medical care. General practitioners can effectively assess risk, make referrals or treat major depression themselves.

[Darkrainbow]

Just do some research and u can easily see that depression rate among women way higher than among men. Maybe that makes sense 🤔

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Hear our phenomenons as to why mens issues are rarely addressed en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Women-are-wonderful_effect https://youtu.be/RD6WI_e5kXI so that basically indicates that men have been doing attemps only its often ignored. Using lethal weapons like those as a last resort.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

A real talk right here https://youtu.be/r9xWmbSSR3Y

[Darkrainbow]

What does it mean when male suicide attempts are ignored? Well, I first attempted suicide during my teenage years, and nobody seems to care about that 🤷 Also, my school teachers were indifferent. Welcome to being a woman in the East 🤷

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You talking about yourself is an anecdote when i can also say the same thing and speak for other man i have seen as an anecdote. That doesn't really change the statistical average. If your only talking about yourself, you don't represent the average.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Gender_differences_in_suicide if you look at the map it is darker on the male side everywhere in the world. https://youtu.be/9uccExOPMrI https://youtu.be/dtVHnZX8E50 this shows how big the sympathy gap really is.

[Darkrainbow]

Bro believes that males and females have the same power level and is surprised why people intervene more when a man beats a woman compared to vice versa. 🤷

[Darkrainbow]

And that's the depression rate among women. If things are as good for women as you claimed, this statistic isn't reflecting that.
www.google.com/search

[Darkrainbow]

Despite the fact that people of all ages and from all walks of life develop depression, women are about twice as likely as men to experience major depression. Women have significantly higher rates of chronic depression (dysthymia)

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@Darkrainbow And you seem to forget that men are also just made of flesh and bones just like women and we can feel pain. The sympathy gap of the experiment is not even close to our biological gap. Luckily for you, you have all those articles talking about women's mental health. This also just proves how society ignores men's mental health issues contributing to their mental issue that they already have. www.youtube.com/watch So you have no idea how many men are actually depressed but ignored. As experiments shows the sympathy gap and again the "women are wonderful effect"

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@Darkrainbow And that fact that men commits suicide way more is proof. You can say someone is not depressed until they really commit suicide which happens to men way more often.

[Darkrainbow]

So u think u know more than psychologists and psychiatrists. Oh ok 🤷

[Darkrainbow]

Bro, if they state that women are more likely to have depression, it means they should also examine the men's side. Without doing this, they can't really come to that conclusion. 🤷

[Darkrainbow]

Agai i said attempting to suicide is not high among men than women. Statistics literally show that.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@Darkrainbow It's shown that there are more awareness for women's depression than men's proving society's care for women more than men's. One can easily examine something without taking it seriously. They can misdiagnose men as "normal" until again they commit suicide themselves. The societal gender bias had been a thing and experiments showing it is also proof that counteracts that "conclusion".

I said this few replies ago " in every successful suicide there had always been attempts in doing it and even having thoughts with it is considered an attempt. The difference would be just women get addressed a lot if they talk about it and you cannot guarantee all attempts are genuine because it can easily be faked objectively. However you can guarantee all successful suicide are genuine." So your "attempt" claim is BS. Luckily for you, more people care about you if you attempt. People may try to stop men doing attempt they follow it up with shame which is why most men don't show any attempts like women do. Because the sympathy gap is still proven and a thing.

[Darkrainbow]

Bro, stop believing that you know more than scientists. Let me give you an example: if a dog attacks a cat, people generally wouldn't find that laughable or comical. But if the roles were reversed, people often post that as captions and find it comical, because the cat typically inflicts less serious damage to the dog. However, that doesn't mean people have more sympathy for cats. 🤷😐

[Darkrainbow]

In the video you provided, the man was literally bitten by the woman, much like a child. If he wanted to, he could have easily stopped the woman from beating him. That's why people find this situation laughable and choose not to interfere.

However, when it comes to women, there is literally no way for a woman to stop a man from beating her. That's common sense.

[Darkrainbow]

If that man were disabled, I'm sure people would approach the situation more strictly. 🤷

[Darkrainbow]

And even men do not understand other men's problems and often harass and belittle them using terms like "p*ssy," "coward," "too emotional," and "not masculine." Men do this way more frequently than women. 🤷
Men's vast majority of problems coming from other men.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

What i have presented to us also scientific approval. And no your cat and dog comparison to men and women are different because we're both humans not different species. You can compare a male dog to a female dog not a dog to a cat so that's a very terrible comparison. So yes you are justifying your double standards just like the rest of society which is exactly what causes men's mental issues. And no it's not just men who shame men for expressing but women do it as well so that would make it just society as a whole. https://youtu.be/gk5er_Ar4hc

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Also it's just ironic if you want women to be treated like men but you're also showing off your agenda saying that men and women are different justifying the double standards i presented to you. So if men and women really are different, that exactly is the case as to why women are treated differently to men when it comes to being topless.

[Darkrainbow]

Bro, when mentioning cats and dogs, I pointed out the strength difference between them. I've read that even an average teenage male (15 or 16 years old) has more strength than a 20-year-old woman. It's scientifically proven that men have way more physical strength than women. That's why if a woman were to attack a man with bare hands, people would find that laughable. Because, as I've said before, MEN HAVE MORE STRENGTH THAN WOMEN. THAT MAN COULD EASILY STOP THAT WOMAN EVEN USING A LITTLE BIT OF STRENGTH

I saw a news story where a woman killed her husband or boyfriend, and a lot of people in the comment section were saying "RIP" for the dead man. Many people weren't trying to sympathize or empathize with a murderer.

But if roles were reversed, the comment section would become a warzone, with many incel males claiming that women somewhat deserved this. It's a sad reality that almost every society in the world holds misogynistic views toward women to some degree. 🤷

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Men may have more strength but that doesn't mean it is to an extent that they are cats and dogs difference. Which is why your analogy is BS. A male dog and a female dog also have different strength levels. A male dog is also stronger than a female dog but they are not cats and dogs difference. You can say that men can easily defend themselves against women except for one thing, society. Which makes it hard for men to defend themselves against women because it can get them in trouble due to the fact that there are always morons like you who justifies that double standards. https://youtu.be/XNrWuZV3jjw so how do you think a man can easily fight back when we are not even allowed to do it?

Your anecdotes again still doesn't prove anything when i can also say the same thing about a man killing a woman getting him in trouble while people sympathize for women. And feminists be like ''he deserve it'' after being killed by his wife. But anecdotes are anecdotes. My social experiment video just proves it.

[Darkrainbow]

The only moron here is you 🤷. You keep sending the videos, literally over the fact that everybody in this world accepts that men are wayyy stronger than women. If you have a hard time accepting a simple truth like that, it's pointless to keep discussing with you 🤷🤷

[Aiko_E_Lara]

The video is also facts because the video contains society and people. So what do you think they are? Holograms? And it's not really different if those youtube videos i have sent to you is found at the very last page of google where your feminist theories are. It's pointless indeed because you don't like your opinions challenge anymore because i have debunked every agenda you have

[GodsPinkyToe]

@Darkrainbow men die more often. Period. Why are women so weak and fragile? It seems everything gets made to be about women's needs and all y'all do is whine and demand to be given things. Like helpless children.

[GodsPinkyToe]

@Darkrainbow if men are way stronger then why are women making so many demands?

[Darkrainbow]

@GodsPinkyToe I'm not saying that women should demand everything without giving anything in return for those demands.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@Darkrainbow And how would you exactly "return" the favor when you being a woman is already what made society not give you a hard time such has having to be drafted, recruited at a heavy duty and death risky jobs and so on? Society already appreciates you for being a woman who raises and nurture kids for the next generations which is why people celebrate women's day more than men's day and men who serve in the military or those risky environments barely even get any appreciation. Wanna return the favor? Be drafted but yeah "women are weaker" as you've said. Why not just be a good girl and stop demanding? The world don't revolve around you.

[Darkrainbow]

Bro, stop crying. You don't get to tell me what to do or not. You don't even know me and don't know what my demands are.

[Darkrainbow]

Drafted 😂. Bro, I'm 5'2" feet tall and have moderate scoliosis (40 degrees), along with a lot of other health conditions. I even feel spine pain when doing simple housework. But even if I were healthy, you don't have the right to tell me to join the military. Even women in the military aren't seen as equal to men in society's eyes. Troll elsewhere.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Then you stop crying about the consequences of what you do then. Of course we don't have the rights to tell you to join the military simply for the fact that you're a woman. Men aren't even allowed to refuse on daft. So what exactly are you trying to say when you wanna ''retun the favor''? It's more like society is already returning the favor to women while men have to do something to get praised. Also, you're saying you're done a moment ago but you came back anyways. Are you sure you know what you're saying?

[Darkrainbow]

"Men aren't even allowed to refuse daft?" Correct the sentence please. Not men just poor men not allowed to refuse daft.

I live in a country that's practically in a state of war, yet many men (those with enough money) give bribes to avoid military service altogether. I personally know dozens of men who do this. However, these men don't believe they're not superior to women simply because they avoid war or military service. So why do I find myself feeling inadequate just because I choose not to participate in the military?

[Darkrainbow]

In certain countries, such as Israel, women are also obligated to serve in the military. However, I strongly doubt that men in those societies truly view women as equals just because women are in the military as well. This is a convenient lie that some men like to perpetuate. Nowadays, many women work outside the home and contribute to their households like men. Yet, this doesn't alter the majority of men's perspectives on women; they still hold degrading views about them. 🤷 Unfortunately, it seems that nothing in this world will change that. 🤷

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You're talking about those bribes as if it's a legal thing. No men are really allowed to refuse the draft and those who avoided the draft because of bribery are laws broken by those corrupted selective service systems which isn't normally the case for most selective services in the world and the average men are not even rich enough bribe. www.thesoldiersproject.org/.../ And since you are still talking about specific countries, i'm talking about the rest of the world because i don't just cherry-pick like you do. And you think only women are being degraded by men? You don't like to look at the other side of the story. In cases like since most people on draft are actually men, that would make most veterans men that would actually end up being homeless the moment they retire. www.research.va.gov/topics/homelessness.cfm or they can have a hard time looking for jobs or just live life because of the amount of ptsd they received which is what men in military tend to have around the world. And there is no male shelter that exist like women shelter but even if there are plans, it eventually get shut down due to lack of fundings. https://youtu.be/0kt_A4_J4tU

[Aiko_E_Lara]

https://youtu.be/_ucR-1NodAs also check your privileges again before you say you want to be treated like men. This question is all about being treated equally if you post half naked photos online. Like really as if it's the end of the world you don't get treated the same way half naked men are. If you want that kind of benefit then sacrifice some of your privilege for that

[Darkrainbow]

In most countries, men are the ones who literally rule. If veterans ended up in those conditions (which are very bad), why did you point women's privileges for this, bro? Aren't the men in charge responsible for those things?
What do women's privileges have to do with those conditions? Are women not allowing those men who are in charge to do their work properly? And no, I'm not cherry-picking; in fact, I stated the conditions in the country where I live. The world is not just composed of the West or the US. This is also a fact.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And to become someone who is able to rule requires a lot of achievements which is not really an easy thing to do which is exactly why the average male are not even rulers. Some of them actually try to attempt to achieve being a ruler but fail and become homeless instead. Average men are not really respected so they try to achieve being on top of the corporate ladder in order to get respect. What do women privilege have to do with it? Simple if you like to act all oppressed just because you are treated differently for showing half naked pictures online, it just simply means you want to be like men then if that's the case then you give up those privileges you have. As i have said earlier, and the social experiments i have shown you, of course there are always people who would give sympathy to you if ever there are creeps home would try to be open about his sexual desires to you but men have to suck it up so if you want to be like men then you suck it up if ever you are treated that way. I can also just simply say the world is not also only composed with the east like what you keep cherry-picking about. But you still have to consider yourself lucky that women in the east have issues addressed in the west. Since mens issues are barely addressed, you still have no idea how much oppression men faced in the east either as what i have said, it's a global phenomenon that men have a higher suicide rate than women and records of attempts are not objective.

[modeunae]

@Darkrainbow How does that correlate with his answer?

[GodsPinkyToe]

@Darkrainbow when does the giving start? When does the responsibility and societal obligation kick in?

My son has to register for the draft as I did and possibly die in a war or risk imprisonment.

No woman is required to do that.

My son is also being told every day how trash he is for being a man.

That's not happening to girls.

There are NO resources for any men's issue, be it a health or social issue. But we have a whole month for breast cancer awareness. We have a whole society bent toward protecting women from anything and everything, including their own mistakes.

We have shelters for women who chose their partners poorly.

None exist for men and the one time a man tried he was harassed to suicide by feminists for it.

I could go on nearly indefinitely. Women have no disadvantages in the western world except being physically weaker. Everything else is built for you, by men.

Now tell me: when will women start carrying their weight instead of begging men to protect and provide? And mind you we were okay with that when women submitted to our authority and acted as partners and helpmates. But now women have made themselves our opposition. Nay; our enemies. And come to think of it, explain to me why men shouldn't start treating you all like opps. Because I'm not seeing a lot of reasons we shouldn't. We'd lose nothing since most of you gleefully murder our babies and say you have the right to do so.

Honestly we should replace women with sexbots. At least they listen.

[BlackBeauty90]

Because there is NOTHING sexual about it. Only someone with some VERY twisted & perverse sexual fantasies are going to get aroused by a man's boobs.

On the other hand MORE women should get some self respect & some self esteem instead of wanting to show off & parade around like a good for nothing prostitute.

[BlackBeauty90]

And no I doubt even a strongly gay man would get aroused by the sight.

[2244001]

Actually there are A LOT of woman who still do that and get away with it. But my stance is that woman have parts that men don't have. If you can remember " what would you do if you were a... For a day?" I'm sure that question most men have answered touch ****... plus woman are way more sexualized than man.

[Anpu23]

Because there was a time when both men and women were forbidden to be top less in public. Men argued that in court and won, when the decision came down many prominent female spokeswomen spoke against the law having gender neutral language (high born and were concerned about "certain types" legally allowed to be toplesd in public) so the law was gendered.

[Phoenix98]

Men's chests aren't sexualized the same way women's are because our bodies are different and are not the same. That's the most straight forward and honest answer I can give you.

And we should be clear here that most of the time it's only the men that women find attractive that are deemed acceptable of posting half naked pics online. And that goes both ways.

[Grovermint]

The breasts of women are still considered sexual, both culturally and legislatively.

A half-naked man is just a guy with his shirt off seen all the time on worksites, walking, etc.

A woman without a top is construed to be making a very provocative or sexual message.

[molonski2]

No different to going to a beach I guess , unless its full nude , women wear bikinis , guys wear speedos or boardies , men and women are different. If you don't like looking at certain pictures , don't look at them.

[Kingofkings1992]

Congratulations. You’ve won the dumbest question of the day award. Please stop making these false equivalencies ladies. A man exposing his torso is not the same as women exposing their breasts for obvious reasons. Also, who told you women weren’t allowed to be half naked? Go to any beach/pool environment I guarantee you’ll see women exposing way more skin than men are.

[modeunae]

Bruv-- you don't even have to go to the beach, just live in America.

[Sour-rose]

... Da faq are u-

Men are allowed to do what they want, just as women. I've seen both half naked, hell, men MORE half naked than women! Trying to show off their abs, lower half... their ass?

[cyclingkmi]

Exactly! There are more half naked women than men! Thanks for being honest

[Rouba99]

I mean, women are hot not anybody deserves to see them goodies you know.. there is a huge difference between man chest and woman chest and our chest is sensitive to sexual touch so it’s considered a sexual area to be covered , that’s my opinion, like for me I will not feel comfortable being half naked around people

[modeunae]

Women aren't goddesses and should be seen that way. They're just people with bodies we [men] like, nevertheless, the other things you said are true.

[menina]

Sexism. And also that stupid idea that women need to cover themselves up and be "modest". It's disgusting!

[DubiousIntentions]

You are really trolling, aren't you? Which woman doesn't like a handsome hunk? And you know darn well a man and woman's bosoms are quite different. Now a man with big moobs might be different.

🏆🏆🏆 Awarded 3 troll points out of 10.

[Alli39]

Because western society has developed a taboo around women's breasts, but not men's. Not every society thinks the same though.

[modeunae]

Been don't have breasts. How do you not understand this? How do you not understand a woman's chest is [seen as] a very sexual part of the body? The 2 can never be the same, and it has nothing to do with "society" but appropriate behaviour.

[integrale77]

I'm all for equality and would gladly welcome women getting there boobs out in public. Sadly women's boobs are more sexualised than men's and there are too many prudes.

[Miristheiss]

Men and women are different.

A topless guy is NOT the same as a topless girl. We have equal rights but men and women are not equal and not even remotely the same.

[Apple1996]

I don't see a issue with either gender having pics like that. If they wanna show off then let them

[VanillaSalt]

Hey I’ll post a topless pic if you do. Let’s trade em in dms. I support your equality…


But you won’t because it’s not about you being able to it’s about us being able to and you not.

[strateguy632]

because men dont have mature mammary glands. they are not special because common to show but women common cover, therefore can't show the secret.

[strateguy632]

also, part of the question said you see they are not a turn on, therefore showable.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Get help. There are bigger things to be worried about than seeing man boobs. Plus there are tons of women on here in what essentially is a bikini showing a lot more skin.

[TonyMetal___86]

You're simply a girl so accept the facts, women's boobs are a private sexual part while a man's chest is nothing...

Men are men and women are women!

Even if the girl is flat chested, her boobs are still private parts!

[WindAtMyBack]

Men are men. Women are women. They are not the same. So they are treated differently. Simple as that.

[Danny_dan92]

Men are called fuck boys if they have half naked profile pictures




Women are called hoes.






So where is the difference?

[Killsey]

Society is to blame. Society paints what is good, bad. Acceptable. What isn't. Horrible isn't it.

[ɹǝʇʇɐɥpɐW]

I agree. It is unfair. Allow women to be half naked in their profile pics! Hell, let them be full naked, if they so choose!

[FinalFantasyBro]

Who told you that women couldn't be? I mean I am pretty sure all the multiple TikTok Bikini Models will tell you otherwise.

[Slingblade1126]

Not a fan of Chef Culo's? I think GAG made him take his saggy titted profile pic down. Now, if they can only have him not show his face.

[Anonymous]

Not true. On average women cover a much smaller percentage of their bodies than men do.

[inhua]

go ahead and do what they do. nobody is stopping you

[AviatorTom]

A woman wearing a thong and teeny bra shows at least as much skin as a main wearing shorts.

[Anemone978]

Men aren't allowed.. just no one cares as much since it isn't all that sexy lol

[RavVid]

We don't have boobs we have chests. It is more reasonable to complain we show our nipples.

[RavVid]

Of course we will just invite you to be topless too because we'd like that. It is not against the law by the way

[Nazgol]

Because they're not seen as sex objects with body parts that could be seen as one, not as much as a female anyway

[cyclingkmi]

It sucks to be a man... no?

[BigDog1989]

its like asking why are there all-women-dance-teams. Sometimes, that's just how the cookie crumbles. Why complain?

[007kingifrit]

because men and women evolved with different roles, we are not equal, we are fair. we compliment eachother, we do not compete directly with one another. this is fine.

[genericname85]

because men have all their primary and secondary sex organds in their pants and women don't.

[Asad1ONE1]

No men need to cover up their upper torso as well.

[genericname85]

@Asad1ONE1 yeah in certain restaurants or private business maybe as part of their policy. not in public tho.

[Asad1ONE1]

Contrary to what many men may think, the chest area of a guy is attractive and this distractive. Not fair to women.

[genericname85]

@Asad1ONE1 no that's bullshit. the attraction is caused by the hiding in the first place. as witnessed by feudal japan where women were working topless in fields all the time. what becomes the "standard" is not specially arrousing anymore. and since christianity has force fed us the idea to feel shame for our bodies, it is now relatively hard for our society to let go of that. but once everyone is topless that will be a non issue. just the transition is what causes unrest and outrage. so that's why we don't do it.

[genericname85]

so if i was a woman, i'd fight for the standard of women hiding their tits, cause that's what creates the attraction they can and do weaponize against men.

[Asad1ONE1]

Women are attracted to mens' chests period! As I've heard from women. Maybe not as distracting because of conditioning though. I guess.

[genericname85]

@Asad1ONE1 yeah they are. just as they are attracted to male arms.

[Wonderingguyy]

I agree no one needs to see that. But women are allowed too?

[Iron_Man]

Good women have a reputation they are thought of as an innocent woman being put up on a pedestal with good, moral values

[Dinn3r]

Because titty bars need to stay in business. I’ve never seen a titty bar by men.

[Anonymous]

I feel the same about half naked men that I do about half naked women. It's unnecessary, and gross, especially considering there are children that use this site.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Because women don’t get turned on by half naked men

[jahaims]

In case you didn't know males and females have different anatomy

[Mallic00]

Honestly i dont know... we need more women flashing their boobs.

[Hotboy_booblover]

Women are also allowed.. I don't know why they don't show their boobs as freely as men do..:)))

[Anonymous]

Women are allowed, but it's going to attract attention. Accept that, or don't post those kind of pictures. Men aren't going to apologize for being straight.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

They shouldn't be but it's because men breast aren't sexual while women breast are.

[Asad1ONE1]

Not true. Men need to cover up as well. And this is unfair and distracting to women.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Asad1ONE1: I literally said that.

[DerekC321]

Equality for everyone. Women should do the same without people giving them any shit.

[nik0102]

Women are allowed to be half naked all the time, anywhere

[Fromdusktilldawn]

go ask the admins, maybe you can change their mind

[Anonymous]

Women are totally allowed but the reason why it’s different seems obvious. What’s stopping you from doing that?

[Anonymous]

Gender roles. Don't like it change genders. That is allowed in this day and age. But don't expect gender roles to change.

[Snakeyes7]

Tell the women who like this to not allow this and it'll happen.

[JamesRandiDebates]

I fully agree. FREE THE NIPPLE. Anything less is misogyny.

[Reem12345reem]

that picture of the man is hot

[RealMarek]

Because this is a Western cultural norm.

[OddBeMe]

You said you liked my man boobs!

[OddBeMe]

But I’m totally pro-nipple. #freethenips

[soe11]

I think it is unfair.