Anyone hates alpha men?

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Men who think they know everything, and can't stand someone telling them they are wrong without getting aggressive. They want to have everything go their way. They reek from toxic masculinity.

CalmUntilAbused · Accepted Answer

I don't think what You described fits the definition of "alpha men". Most importantly, alpha men don't "want" to have everything go their way, they simply "do" have everything go their way. What You described might fit the definition of "dumb wannabe alpha men", however. The general rule of thumb is that if someone claims to be a member of a certain group (that is considered desireable to be a member of), they are not a member of the group in question. Now... Why "dumb" wannabe alpha men? There are men who would like to be alpha men (thus "wannabe alpha men"), but they know they do not belong in this category and do not act like the kings of the castle (which pretty much sums up the rest of what You described). Instead, they either work hard to become stronger or knowingly give up on their desire to become alpha men, staying humble and mostly silent on the way. And then... There are those who think that if they challenge anyone in their way, they will become the alpha men, while in fact, they are simply mere contenders for this status. As for the real alpha men... They simple make things happen by wishing for them to happen (and having someone do the numbing work necessary to make them happen while they focus on the overall management of the effort instead). That is an ability to be envied, for sure, but as long as it's not used for evil, it's not really something to be hated. A common misconception is that alpha men are violent - they never have the need to be violent. Instead, they are simply intimidating. They have an immense potential to be violent and that in itself earns them enough respect for their will to not be challenged. Those who are violent are clearly in combat, and combat is a clear sign that one's will is being challenged. If someone's will is being challenged, they are not an alpha man.

Thus... No. I do not hate alpha men. I do envy them, but I respect them, even if I do my best to ignore their authority and remain free.

Rami_NL · Accepted Answer

I assume that the definition of "alpha man" is animalistic, in the sense that he would try to bully every guy he meets and to get laid with every woman.

Now a problem that I noticed recently is that a lot of women don't have a problem with this type of guys, but they claim to have a problem with them, which they project on regular men.

Like for example you can see one of these bullies "alpha" monkey get away with everything he does if he's attractice, because women would dream to get in a relationship with him, but when they are hurt they are unable to direct their anger toward this type of guy, mostly because they are attracted, so they explode with a feminist rant against a guy who was never toxic or a bully. Why? Simply because it's easier to pretent that attractive = good and let's blame the unattractive guy for all the problems. Like he's even being asked to provide for children made by the "alpha" and then if the "beta" doesn't want to provide he's told he's bad.

A lot of women don't know how to identify these "alpha" monkeys and they get confused because their hormones get in their way.

SallyTho87 · Accepted Answer

Some people have such a large ego and are self-absorbed with themselves, that they have convinced not only themselves, but everyone in their life that they are always right. This is actually a sign of a personality disorder, and narcissistic personality disorder overlaps too.

I understand it is HARD for some people to accept they are incorrect, but when people start an argument and blow a discussion into an open battle, that's not something I continue to engage in lol. It's ridiculous, and if the person cannot accept they are wrong, or cannot accept another opinion different than their own, it shows their maturity level is severely lacking, as is their respect for others.

I do not continue a convo when aggression becomes part of it. There is no need for fighting or being argumentative whilst trying to have an open discussion, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, perspectives, and feelings!

Siri137 · Accepted Answer

If that's the definition of an "alpha male", then yes, I hate them too, but the term itself is something I don't accept, and simply because it's based upon a huge mistake, an error made by a researcher of wolves way back in the 1970's (and at no point in time did he ever recommend applying what he's allegedly found to humans).

Donald_Tate · Answer

Well, well, well, what do we have here? A little Dutch mouse scurrying out of her hole to complain about real men?

Listen up, NetherlandsNar. You don't get to dictate how alpha males behave. We are who we are, and we're not apologizing for it. Men like Andrew Tate and Donald Trump speak the hard truths that make weak women like you uncomfortable.

You can't stand alpha men because we remind you of your place in the world. We're the leaders, the decision-makers, the ones who get things done. We're not here to hold your hand and stroke your ego. We're here to win, and winning doesn't always involve being polite and gentle.

Toxic masculinity? Please. That's just a made-up term by snowflakes who can't handle the reality of the real world. Real men are aggressive, competitive, and dominant. We don't back down, and we sure as hell don't let whiny little girls tell us how to live our lives.

So keep hating, sweetheart. It just fuels our fire. We'll continue to grab pussies, build walls, and make America great again. You can either get on board or step aside. The choice is yours, but either way, we're not changing for anyone.

MAGA forever!

@Donald_Tate signing off.

DJB72 · Answer

Who's your reference? Sounds like Tate. His caricature of what an "alpha" man is was taken straight from a cartoon drawn in the 1890s.

Reality is there's two basic kinds of men. Real and Fake.

A Real Man doesn't need validation from external sources. Especially other men. He's not a braggart. He doesn't try to dominate a conversation.

You can spot him easily. He's the one that everyone voluntarily shuts up when he speaks. He talks with authority. You probably never hear him raise his voice. You've never seen him angry or start to lose his temper. He's "measured" in everything he does because he's not his own ultimate source of authority.

A Fake man - note the small "m" - is everything a Real Man isn't. He's brash. Aggressive. No self control. Constantly seeking validation and needs the fawning praise of those he seems beneath him.

He shouts down anyone who tries to stand up to him with an opposing opinion. He's surrounded by "yes" men who tell him what he wants to hear. He's angry all the time, but he'll claim he's not - just "passionate". He's impulsive and rash. Hedonistic and arrogant. Highly narcissistic.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

Men who describe themselves as "alpha males" are typically just talentless idiots with rage and ego issues that eventually end up in prison over something stupid.

There is nothing "alpha" about them. An alpha is a social hierarchy term to describe someone at the top of a hierarchy system, but the people on top today are the nerds that everyone ignored in the 1990s, 1980s, and earlier, the ones who build technological infustructures and commercial devices that everyone else relies on to get anything done.

The people who know how to build a fridge, an ac, a tv, a car, a house, a street light, a video game console, a pc, a program, a phone, a vcr/dvd player, or how to wire a building, or telephone pole, or fix plumbing, etc, THOSE people are at the top. The engineers, architects, artists, scientists, etc.

Its usually meathead con artist druggy cheaters that use the word alpha to describe themselves though, not nerds. They are at war with women which they lump into stereotypes because they can't be nice to anyone to save their life, and are just as bad as women who call themselves feminists (which do the same to men).

jshm2 · Answer

There is no such thing as "toxic masculinity" and the myth of "alpha men" is based on a debunked study of wolves.

So people who base anything on either are wrong straight off the bat.

But what you're describing are head strong, arrogant and blinkered people who can be male or female. They are commonly called "assholes" as their crap goes only one way. But these days people are shoving anything up their assholes so even that insult means nothing these days!

Juxtapose · Answer

The concept was debunked by the very person who came up with the concept and yet people are still using that false categorization for wolves on humans.

People could find this out with a 3-minute Google search but they are too lazy. And people wonder why I don't think too highly of those who use those terms unironically.

You are not "alpha." Alpha of what? Do you know how many different social hierarchies and layers there are to human interaction? In one place you could be in charge and in another you could be completely subservient.

Utterly ridiculous.

bolverk · Answer

Your description is a caricature it is simplified and exaggerated, a man who fits the psychological definition of an “Alpha” is:

“An Alpha is a leader; He/She is self-assured, powerful and confident in everything he/she does.

This personality type doesn't hold back, tending to steer the pack in friendships and powerfully lead their teams in work. An overwhelming number of CEOs tend to be Alphas, actually, as they relish in striving to be the best and being challenged.”

With this kind of leadership and power, Alphas can become overworked, stressed and disengaged from their personal lives.

As such, the best kind of Alpha is one that knows not just how to be the best person they can be, but also understand that balance in life is always needed to truly succeed.”

blueonblack22 · Answer

You don’t even know what an alpha male is. The men you are describing are just insecure men who over compensate by acting like dbags. That’s not really confidence but I don’t think you understand the difference.

You are also someone who believes in “toxic masculinity”. If there is toxic masculinity then there is toxic femininity. Either use both terms “equally” or don’t use them at all.

236color · Answer

In a way I agree with you and Calmuntilabused. I hate self proclaimed "Alpha men". Claiming you're an "Alpha" a using it as an excuse to be a prick, only proves you're an asshole, not an "Alpha". Being an "Alpha" is like having a nickname, you can't give it to yourself.

nastyb · Answer

I honestly 100% agree. I love masculine men but I can't STAND their arrogance, immense ego, always need to be right, make all the decisions on the relationship, tells the woman she has no right to voice her opinion, that she has no power to make any decisions, that she needs to always be inferior to him,

9in_Serpent · Answer

Yea i just can't stand these boys trying to cosplay what they believe is a “man” influenced by all kinds of stupid hollywood movies and idiot youtubers. Along with the whole beard lumber jack fashion they aspire too but wouldn't survive a single day in the woods! Lmfao
Its pretty sad to see all these foolish children blaming all their problems on girls because they can't get laid…

Anonymous · Answer

That's not my reference point for an alpha male. I know a guy who fits my alpha male definition. He is very calm, he doesn't show off at all, but he works hard for his job, he does boxing and he is very strong physically. He doesn't try to stand out in any way, but his work speaks for itself and people respect him, although he is not the load and cocky type. He's got a girlfriend and very few friends, not the popular type.

dustybiker2 · Answer

Man babies are not alpha anything. In the wild an alpha wolf isn't going to whine or throw tantrums. They are cool, calm and collected. Reliable. Those are traits a pack follow. Humans get this very confused.

nawtee_me · Answer

The term (alpha) is used in the animal kingdom and it goes along with only the strong survive. Humans are not animals and don’t herd females to breed with as many as possible.
With humans there are no alphas, only guys who call themselves that to justify their behavior. A behavior that is animal like which shows nothing but disrespect to females. And those who buy into that lie is just as much a part of the problem.

OddBeMe · Answer

I hate the promoting the idea. Both men and women can be assertive for their needs and business. Ironically GaG picked a photo of Jon Hamm to rep an “alpha male”…lol

on_my_knees · Answer

It's frustrating to deal with people who believe they are superior and cannot handle being proven wrong. But everyone has flaws and weaknesses, regardless of their gender.

PointlessNonsenseGuy · Answer

I don't think those guys you're describing are alpha males, necessarily. There's a difference between a genuine alpha male, and someone who goes around telling everybody that they're an alpha male.

Lliam · Answer

The definition of a douche is anyone who thinks they are an alpha male or wants to be one. He's either materialistic and egotistical or overcompensating for some insecurity.

dragoblack · Answer

I hate the whole concept. It is based on a concept that turned out to be false, but people ran with it like it is fact, so now, aggressive idiots with over-inflated egos are using it to inflate their superiority complex

DreamLife7 · Answer

You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. What you're describing is a man that doesn't like you. Instead you're projecting because you can't handle rejection.

That's not what an alpha male is..

michol123 · Answer

When I see one of those so called alpha males, I see a Chihuahua pretending to be a wolf to be brave in front of a threat something it's afraid of, and in the alpha males case their afraid of women with opinions.

handsomelad70 · Answer

I don't hate them, though they're awfully annoying.

JC_jester · Answer

The human species doesn't have alpha individuals, male or female. What you're describing are toxic people.

Serkee · Answer

I think pretty much everyone does. Even other "alpha" dudes.

Unit1 · Answer

can't really hate that which doesn't exist.

SAMI_DABBAB · Answer

These labels will forever be hilarious, in reality you're only a good guy or bad guy, high value or low value , successful or unsuccessful... etc

Friendlybro79 · Answer

I dislike people like this. Men or women. Yes some women act the way you specifically describe.

DarkLegacy · Answer

Yes i do and it is so good to hear a woman saying this as well. You are quite right, it is toxic masculinity.

Aiko_E_Lara · Answer

People have different ideas on how alpha men should be and people who keeps using those terms tend to be more toxic than the "alpha men" they keep talking about.

exitseven · Answer

I think that guys that think they are so called alpha men are assboles

itsclearlynicholas · Answer

Without alpha's, we"re gonna all have job shortages lol and there ain't robots yet 🤖🤖

andy5686 · Answer

Let's stay away from narcissistic people. It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. You don't always get everything you want. It should be what both parties want. Small calculations should not be made. People should not manipulate each other.

marish01 · Answer

Not hate but find them inferior to masculine men. See where I hit? Alpha men are fake. They are not masculine

Marklaw12 · Answer

That's not what Alpha Male means.  It simply means A man who strives to better himself and help those around him.

Anonymous · Answer

Lol those aren't alphas, those are pieces of shit pretending to be alphas. A real alpha protects and provides for his family, and contributes to his community.

shortster · Answer

If they are toxic; they are not an alpha. That is probably a beta or sigma trying to pretend to be an alpha and failing.

dean53AU · Answer

Yep, I hate em too but fun to correct them when they are wrong haha

Andro36 · Answer

That sounds more like a narcissist rather than alpha. Both are repulsive in my opinion

Knightwatch27 · Answer

People with inflated egos and insecurities exist everywhere.

Nice222 · Answer

male who has to act out and assert that he is an alpha male, is not an alpha male.

Anonymous · Answer

My balls got bigger the minute I became an alpha male *fixes tie*

Abdullah_Adhi · Answer

I think alpha men are cool. Macho men on the other hand, nope.

laly520 · Answer

thats a narcissistic personality disorder

DrPepper12 · Answer

JFC they don't exist. EOS

Anonymous · Answer

Hard to hate what doesn't exist.

cootjuhh · Answer

nah im just a sub from your country

Anonymous · Answer

Nope. I find them rather entertaining.

Anonymous · Answer

I’m not fond of them

Kingofkings1992 · Answer

No, I cannot hate what doesn’t exist

Anonymous · Answer

Thankfully I'm not an alpha 🙂

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